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Christianity emodude on 18 Dec 2006 03:49 pm

7 Virginia parishes vote to quit US Episcopal Church

Another interesting article out of the Boston Globe:

And why are they quitting? Because of recent decisions by the US Episcopal Church to consecrate a gay bishop and bless same-sex unions.

As one woman is quoted from the article: “… the issue is: Are we going to follow Scripture?”

Let’s examine what she’s talking about. What does the Bible say about homosexuality? Turns out it’s quite clear.

Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

- No wiggle room here. This is the word of the Lord.

Leviticus 18:22 – Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

- Again, quite clear. Let’s throw in one from the New Testament just to ensure it’s not just Leviticus here.

Romans 1:26-27 – For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

- Paul condemns both homosexual men and women.

Just as a point of reference, Leviticus contains several fascinating and detailed chapters on animal sacrifice, yet somehow I feel that no member of these 7 churches routinely participates in that. I wonder why not?

Anyway, it’s easy to understand why the church members felt the need to secede from their national organization. Verses like these absolutely polarize the issue of homosexuality, because Christians believe these statements are directly from God himself (in the quotes from Leviticus, they are).

What these members need to realize is that these are not quotes from an all-powerful, all-knowing Creator; these are the opinions of 2 Neanderthals. Moses and Paul do not know the opinions of any God because God is imaginary, and when they pretend to know the will of God that is exactly what it is, pretending.

As 21st century rational, intelligent people, we should be able to discuss the topic of homosexuality without being polarized by the opinions of others in a 2000 year old book. Once you discard these ridiculous statements in the Bible, it is possible to discuss homosexual issues in today’s society without the pretense of believing that an all-powerful Creator actually cares what 2 men or 2 women do behind closed doors.

4 Responses to “7 Virginia parishes vote to quit US Episcopal Church”

  1. on 18 Dec 2006 at 6:59 pm 1.Sam said …

    Note:

    “Seven of its 111 dioceses have rejected the authority of Presiding US Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori, installed in November as the first woman to head an Anglican church.”

    Perhaps they “reject her authority” because of this:

    1 Corinthians 14:33-35 – “For God is not a God of disorder but of peace. As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.”

    or this:

    1 Timothy 2:11-12 – “A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.”

    The Bible is a license for bigotry and senseless discrimination. It is a book for fools.

  2. on 18 Dec 2006 at 10:34 pm 2.Jimson said …

    The Bible is clear and consistent on homosexuality.

  3. on 19 Dec 2006 at 4:45 am 3.a2planet said …

    I admire your steady tone about this; your consistent thinking that goes with the website. After a couple days at the forum I would have probably responded to that article with a lot of bluster about how stupid the Bible is and freedom and this and that, but you stay on the premise that God is imaginary and leave the implications of the church’s hatred of homosexuals alone.

  4. on 19 Dec 2006 at 1:57 pm 4.Brian said …

    You’re right Jimson, it is quite clear. It’s also quite clear what you’re supposed to do about homosexuals; namely put them to death. So tell me, are you doing as God commands? Are you actively searching out homosexuals and murdering them? If not, then why not? God has commanded it. He does not say ‘Well, check and see if they’re a good person first’; no, He says put them to death. So please let us know how your homosexual hunting is going.

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