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Christianity Thomas on 08 Mar 2013 01:27 am

The insanity of religion – God’s plan edition

Here we find a great example of the insanity of religion:

God’s existence addressed

Through reflection, study and reading the works of C.S. Lewis, Lee Strobel and others, Kraftson said he found solid answers to his questions early in his college career.

“Which brought up the question: What do I want to do with my life?” Kraftson said. “I graduated college in 1970, which some of you may recall was a pretty turbulent time in our country, but also a time when many were joining the Peace Corps and things like that.”

Having concluded that God exists and does have a plan for everyone, Kraftson decided to share that message through interacting with people.

“Having concluded that God exists and does have a plan for everyone…” Imagine the level of insanity it takes to look at our world and reach that conclusion. Think of the 10 million children per year who die of starvation, the millions more who die senselessly of cancer and heart attacks, the millions slaughtered in war, and the millions more who perish in natural disasters. God says, “yes, my plan for you is to grow to age three and then to be crushed when your apartment collapses in an earthquake.” Only insanity could see that as a plan.

492 Responses to “The insanity of religion – God’s plan edition”

  1. on 08 Mar 2013 at 10:57 am 1.Anonymous said …

    How can anyone believe Lee Strobel?

  2. on 08 Mar 2013 at 5:04 pm 2.DPK said …

    1.Anonymous said …

    “How can anyone believe Lee Strobel?”

    How can anyone believe everything happens according to god’s plan, but if you ask him nicely, he will change it for you?

    I’d add Strobel to a long list of “How can anyone believe…?” questions that I have.
    hahaha

    It’s not difficult, PT Barnum said one is born every minute.

  3. on 08 Mar 2013 at 8:54 pm 3.The messenger said …

    Thomas the Inain, 10 million childern are not dieing every day.

    why do you forge such appauling lies?

    who made thius estement?

    Where did you get this information?

    If you are unable to site your sources then that proves that you are not only inain, you are also metally unstable.

    I pray for you; you imature Child(aka thomas).

  4. on 08 Mar 2013 at 8:56 pm 4.The messenger said …

    Thomas the Inain, 10 million childern are not dying every day.

    Why do you forge such appaulling lies?

    Who made this estement?

    Where did you get this information?

    If you are unable to site your sources, then that proves that you are not only inain, you are also metally unstable.

    I pray for you; you immature Child(aka thomas).

  5. on 09 Mar 2013 at 1:52 pm 5.alex said …

    “10 million childern are not dying every day.”

    what is it then, you fucken troll? 985? 435,238? 1? or none? go argue with your mooslim bro, s0l. maybe he has some spare sheep.

    go pray for a brain, fuckhead.

  6. on 09 Mar 2013 at 2:06 pm 6.DPK said …

    Messenger, are you an habitual liar, or do you just have a reading comprehension problem? He did not say 10 million children die from hunger each day, he said each YEAR.
    The in estimates 25,000 people die from hunger and malnutrition every day. The majority of them are children. That’s 9.1 million per year… Close enough?
    Besides, whether its 1 thousand, 1 million, or10 million, the point remains… What’re is your god?
    Why don’t you answer the question instead of quibbling about how many children your supposed god allows to starve to death as part of his holy plan?

  7. on 09 Mar 2013 at 2:08 pm 7.DPK said …

    Sorry.. The UN estimates 25k die from hunger each day:
    http://factcheckinginjusticefacts.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/asmaa-al-hameli/

  8. on 09 Mar 2013 at 2:28 pm 8.s0l0m0n said …

    Ah…..aaaa….

    And billions….& billions…& countlesss…..huamans….and other beings….that god have sustain their food supplies for their livelihood…

    Ah….aaaa….

    Why don’t you account for that fact DPK???

    Indeed you are the inhabitants of ((((((((HHHHHEEEELLLLL)))))!!!!!

  9. on 09 Mar 2013 at 2:29 pm 9.s0l0m0n said …

    Sorry…..

    …..huamans….should be ……humans….

  10. on 09 Mar 2013 at 4:33 pm 10.alex said …

    “god have sustain their food supplies for their livelihood…”

    not a fact, asshole, non gratis. go baaack to sheep. bullshit will get no pass here. fuck off, unless you got proof, allahu akbar.

  11. on 09 Mar 2013 at 6:24 pm 11.The messenger said …

    6 DPK, I miss read his writings, my apologies.

  12. on 09 Mar 2013 at 6:29 pm 12.The messenger said …

    There are more religious organization than Atheist organizations that work to help the starving people of the world.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Christian_charities

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Orthodox_Christian_Charities

  13. on 09 Mar 2013 at 6:30 pm 13.The messenger said …

    on 08 Mar 2013 at 8:46 pm 160.The messenger said …
    134.The messenger said …
    DPK, that statement that you quoted from my comment is useless in this argument because it has nothing to do with the debade conserning the issue of wheather or not God is more likly to answer a prayer with or without a saints involement.
    I stated the following sentence within the comment that you quoted from, thus proving that you are lying about me stating that prayers are more likely to be answered with the assistance of a saint.
    “praying to a saint is not required, God can answer your prayers either way.”
    If you are unable to understand the fact that you are wrong, I would sugjest that you check into a mental hospitle as soon as possible.

  14. on 09 Mar 2013 at 9:38 pm 14.alex said …

    “There are more religious organization than Atheist organizations that work to help the starving people of the world.”

    there are more foreskins snipped off by the dumbass religious fuckheads than do atheists, and????? diversions failed yet again. fuck off. your mooslim brother, s0l, has spare sheep.

  15. on 10 Mar 2013 at 12:06 am 15.Curmudgeon said …

    Alex-K,

    I did not think it possible. All the letters you typed into this thread and neither of you said anything consequential.

    Kudos! Well done sirs!

  16. on 10 Mar 2013 at 12:36 am 16.The messenger said …

    Brother 14.alex, why do you keep bringing foreskin randomly into these arguements?

    Stop obsessing over foreskins you idiot.

  17. on 10 Mar 2013 at 12:45 am 17.Anonymous said …

    So, many attempts to change the subject, but not one theist has the courage to even attempt to try to explain why a supposedly loving god has a “plan” that involves inflicting intense and cruel suffering on innocent children.

    That fact alone speaks volumes for the fear the religious have about contrasting the real world with the one they think their story book tells them exists.

    It’s pretty sad how desperate Crum and his cronies are that they won’t even try to think for themselves.

  18. on 10 Mar 2013 at 12:57 am 18.gfunk said …

    If god did exists nobody would ever die. Just anuther reason why we know their is no God.

  19. on 10 Mar 2013 at 1:10 am 19.alex said …

    blah, kjaksjdf, shit, whtf. see? it doesn’t really matter what i say or who i am. your god is bullshit. your diversions won’t work. i’m hip to your shit and so is everybody here.

    the foreskins and the smell of burnt flesh is in your bullshit bible. the question is, why is your bullshit god so obsessed with them?

    messenger, go fuck yourself. or like your mooslim brother says, gaze at the sun and you’ll see the bullshit hell.

    you can point a thousand, million things about atheists and it doesn’t change a damn thing. your god is bullshit. capiche?

  20. on 10 Mar 2013 at 1:29 am 20.alex said …

    “All the letters you typed into this thread and neither of you said anything consequential.”

    says the theist dumbfuck, who patrols the atheist site and spews lame bullshit diversions. when called out, the same dumbfuck ducks and reappears over and over again and again as the same, lame shithead.

    atheists put up with your shit everywhere and now is the time for you fuckers to shut the fuck up. go ahead, put me out of business. say something bright.

  21. on 10 Mar 2013 at 3:11 am 21.Hell Yeah said …

    “praying to a saint is not required, God can answer your prayers either way. If you are unable to understand the fact that you are wrong, I would sugjest that you check into a mental hospitle as soon as possible.”

    God answers prayers? First of all, no gods are real. None of the 100’s of them made up by mankind overtime, including yours. Also, your god if you think he exists and answers prayers, then why are the prayers answered randomly as if there was no god answering them? Just take out the middleman, which is your god. For example, athletes giving credit to god for them winning. Ray Lewis gave credit to god for giving him this latest super bowl win. Isn’t this the same guy who has a troubled past with the law such as potentially being part of a murder? So what you are saying is that your god gave him the super bowl as a reward to his crimes, but others who pray just to live another day don’t get theirs answered? How is that any different than there being no god answering any prayers and things just happen at random?

    Believing in the supernatural should be a reason to check into a mental hospital. Afterall, you are talking to imaginary friends.

  22. on 10 Mar 2013 at 3:44 am 22.s0l0m0n said …

    alex….

    You can fit those foreskin into your f****n head and then shut the F**k up.

  23. on 10 Mar 2013 at 4:34 am 23.DPK said …

    “134.The messenger said …
    DPK, that statement that you quoted from my comment is useless in this argument ..”

    William, your being caught in this lie really seems to have struck a nerve with you. So much so that you brought it over from another thread and you keep bringing it up. It must really bother you.
    Sadly, you cannot take back what is written in black and white. You first said one thing, and then tried to take it back when caught. Why don’t you just admit you were talking out of your ass and say you’re sorry. You do it frequently enough that no one will think any less of you. Here’s a clue though, you don’t need to apologize to me, because I think BOTH of your explanations are pure bullshit. There are no saints in heaven who are “close to god” and who get help get your prayers answered because there are no saints, there is no heaven, and there is no god answering prayers. That is why your god ignores the prayers of those MILLIONS of starving children, but he help professional football players score touchdowns and helps Crum find his car keys when he’s lost them again.
    It is also why you cannot present any actual evidence that your imaginary god exists, because, just like every other god throughout the entirety of human history, this one is just as make-believe. Grow up.

  24. on 10 Mar 2013 at 8:58 am 24.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    Bible
    “god is all loving, all knowing, all powerful,ect

    Real life
    “God is sadistic, powerless, knows nothing,ect

    Any theists wanna try to explain this one?

  25. on 10 Mar 2013 at 3:19 pm 25.The messenger said …

    23.DPK, stop the madness.

    I proved to you that I am not lying. I provided evidence that supports my claim of innocence.

    The evidence that I have provided is located within comment 13.

    Why do you continue to ignore this evidence, and continue to lie about it?

  26. on 10 Mar 2013 at 4:56 pm 26.The messenger said …

    on 09 Mar 2013 at 6:29 pm 12.The messenger said …
    There are more religious organization than Atheist organizations that work to help the starving people of the world.
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Christian_charities
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Orthodox_Christian_Charities

  27. on 10 Mar 2013 at 5:59 pm 27.alex said …

    “There are more religious organization than Atheist organizations that work to help the starving people of the world.”

    what, more random shit? bible foreskins, asshole.

  28. on 10 Mar 2013 at 6:08 pm 28.The messenger said …

    27.alex, I presented a argument against Thomas’s post.

    Stop obsessing over foreskin.

  29. on 10 Mar 2013 at 6:28 pm 29.DPK said …

    25.The messenger said …

    23.DPK, stop the madness….

    Sure William.. I’m over it. You’re the one who won’t let it go. Maybe you should pray to a sint to help you out there.

    “There are more religious organization than Atheist organizations that work to help the starving people of the world.”

    Well, that stands to reason because there are more religious people in the world than there are atheists. In fact, we are so out numbered, I wonder why there are still starving people in the world?
    Maybe you should pray to St. Whoever the fuck and ask him to ask god to help out. It would be simple for him, being all powerful and all…. but since you already explained that EVERYTHING happens according to god’s plan, why cant you realize that god obviously WANTS those children to starve to death. Seem that the atheists help feed them because its the right thing to do, but the religious people help feed them because they thing god’s plan is a bad idea and want it to stop.

    Answer this question William… if you can do it without lying. If god made things so that some 9 million people die of starvation every day, why do you pray to god to change his mind? Should you not accept starvation as part of god’s plan?

  30. on 10 Mar 2013 at 6:46 pm 30.Curmudgeon said …

    William,

    Atheist have an out….no moral absolutes. So why should they help anyone?

    Christians send money and people in huge numbers. Atheists sit and whine and complain. Surveys have shown what tightwads they are.

    Gfunk,

    Against great reasoning power!

  31. on 10 Mar 2013 at 7:29 pm 31.DPK said …

    29.Curmudgeon said …
    “Atheist have an out….no moral absolutes.”

    And yet… they do it anyway. Why is that Curm?
    You actually have NO IDEA how much I give to charity and how much time and effort I volunteer to help in my community for a number of good causes. Your bigotry and hatefulness is so transparent, and very unbecoming not to mention downright insulting. You are right, I have no moral absolutes, and neither do you,,, because there is no such thing. You have had your asshole reamed on that issue so many times, you must have a really hard time walking. If you are going to claim christians have a moral absolute, show us where it is and what it says. You won’t, because you are a LIAR.
    Lemme guess, you probably think black folks are all lazy and on welfare, huh?

    “Christians send money and people in huge numbers…” Fighting the will of god at every turn. Why do they do that Curm? Explain to us why they don’t bend to god’s will. I mean, 9.1 million people…. that’s not an insignificant number… god must be very adamant about wanting a good portion of the population to die a horrible death of malnutrition and starvation. I gather you think that is a wrong that needs to be corrected? Why don’t you just pray it away? God answers prayers all the time, right? That sure seems like it would be a good one for him to answer. Why won’t he do that?

  32. on 10 Mar 2013 at 8:25 pm 32.The messenger said …

    Brother 30.Curmudgeo, I agree.

  33. on 10 Mar 2013 at 9:29 pm 33.Lou said …

    About a year ago there was one these very rare atheist charities begging atheist to give. Surveys have shown atheist and liberals in general are not very charitable with the cash.

  34. on 10 Mar 2013 at 9:36 pm 34.The messenger said …

    29.DPK, Suffering is a part of GOD’S plan.

    God’s plan is for suffering to occur, and for humans to be kind to one anouther and to help others overcome suffering.

  35. on 10 Mar 2013 at 10:42 pm 35.DPK said …

    hahahaha
    The Catholic church has paid out 2.2 BILLION dollars to sexual abuse victims in the US alone….
    http://ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/vatican-abuse-summit-22-billion-and-100000-victims-us-alone
    And.. they spend a paltry 2.7% of their estimated $170 BILLION dollar annual spending on charity.
    http://ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/vatican-abuse-summit-22-billion-and-100000-victims-us-alone
    Not even to mention the hundreds of billions in assets it has squirreled away.

    And if you give to one of those Bible Belt mega-churches… how much of your money do you think is going to feed hungry kids, and how much is spent on giant church-stadiums, private jets and mansions for preachers and directors?

    And even if every atheist in the world was a tight fisted scrooge… how does that in any way demonstrate that your imaginary god is real?
    You guys never give up with trying to throw red herrings into the blender to try and cover up the fact that what you are mixing in there is 100% BULLSHIT.

    Next diversion?

  36. on 11 Mar 2013 at 12:01 am 36.Anonymous said …

    Lou, what do you think of a god who allows, even plans for, 10 million children a year to die of starvation? Why would anyone worship such a monster?

  37. on 11 Mar 2013 at 12:45 am 37.alex said …

    “…a god who allows, even plans for, 10 million children a year to die..”

    the bullshit god is too busy ignoring saints that bullshit xtians pray to. the bullshit god is too busy granting touchdowns and at the same time, meticulously planning the path of the bullshit bullet so that it barely misses the brain stem, therefore allowing the little girl to live. the bullshit god is too busy planning s0l’s height so that he can hump the sheep while standing comfortably.

    hey, i’m not a hater. just won’t put up with bs. and for messenger, a random, biblical foreskin! put it on your grill. remember, the odor of burning flesh is pleasing to the lord. bleh!

  38. on 11 Mar 2013 at 1:32 am 38.DPK said …

    34.The messenger said …
    29.DPK, Suffering is a part of GOD’S plan.

    I know… so why do you fight AGAINST god’s plan? You should be thanking god for starving children William. You so silly!
    Why did god make cancer? I mean that’s part of god’s plan too. Why would you get medical treatment for cancer if god gave it to you? That’s bold man… trying to use science to rid yourself of a disease that god wants you to have. That’s just wrong.

  39. on 11 Mar 2013 at 2:03 am 39.Lou said …

    Anony,

    Prove God plans for these children to die. Atheists what are YOU doing about these children since God is um, er, arh, imaginary? Apparently YOU don’t care even as much as this supposed imaginary being?

    Why do we even speak to such monsters.

  40. on 11 Mar 2013 at 2:16 am 40.The messenger said …

    Brother 38.DPK, because in the end, all of the suffering will end and everyone will go to heaven.

  41. on 11 Mar 2013 at 2:19 am 41.The messenger said …

    Brother 37.alex, If you want the suffering to end, follow God and help the suffering people of the world. True Christians are always trying to help others. Do the same.

  42. on 11 Mar 2013 at 2:21 am 42.The messenger said …

    Brother 35.DPK, those people who were accused of sexual abuse are not true Catholics.

    A true Catholic would never do that.

  43. on 11 Mar 2013 at 2:30 am 43.alex said …

    “Prove God plans for these children to die.”

    when your bullshit god doesn’t come thru in the clutch, you morons go into spin, apologist, overdrive. wah! my child/mother/lover/etc is in a better place, because it’s god’s will. the irony is lost/wasted on you morons. wah? and a better place?

    look in the mirror, moron. there’s your proof. you’ve swallowed it, god, bible, hook, and all.

    remember, to stop all this atheist nonsense, bring on the proof. btw, the bible/kohrain/holyShit is not.

  44. on 11 Mar 2013 at 2:33 am 44.alex said …

    “Apparently YOU don’t care even as much as this supposed imaginary being?”

    retarded. i don’t care as much as santa? gtfooh.

  45. on 11 Mar 2013 at 2:44 am 45.The messenger said …

    44.alex, are you on drugs?

  46. on 11 Mar 2013 at 2:44 am 46.The messenger said …

    on 11 Mar 2013 at 2:44 am 45.The messenger said … Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    44.alex, are you on drugs?

  47. on 11 Mar 2013 at 3:06 am 47.DPK said …

    Once again Lou, you pompos asshole… You have NO IDEA what I, or any other atheist, does or don’t do. If you did, you would seem a bigger fool than you are. What I don’t do is molest children, or conspire to protect those who do. What I don’t do is fleece old ladies out of their savings or social security checks to finance a lavish lifestyle or build an opulent church so I can fleece more people.
    And even if I was a completely heartless monster who told his little victims that Jesus will cry if you tell about me putting my holy dick in your mouth…. What has that got to do with the reality of your imaginary god.
    Lots of parents shower their children with love and gifts at Christmas. Does that make Santa Claus real? Of course not. You are either an idiot, or a desperate paranoid lunatic. Grasp at straws much there, Lou?

  48. on 11 Mar 2013 at 2:22 pm 48.Lou said …

    That’s great news DPK.

    Maybe you can prove God plans for these children to die as anony claims. What are atheists doing about these starving children since God is um, er, arh, imaginary? Anything?

    The Christians are doing a lot, you know, the monsters and you are doing little. That makes you worse than a monster.

    And the word is pompous. If you desire to use a big word at least know how it is spelled.

  49. on 11 Mar 2013 at 2:44 pm 49.Anonymous said …

    more diversions. Suh has been replaced by Lou. Same tactic, same school of grammar, different name.

    Lou, the question was what do you think of a god who plans or allows children to starve? That’s the question for you to answer.

  50. on 11 Mar 2013 at 3:50 pm 50.s0l0m0n said …

    alex will be dumped into the bottom most and hottest of ((((HELL))))

  51. on 11 Mar 2013 at 3:52 pm 51.Lou said …

    Anony

    Good, back from running!

    Maybe you will now prove God plans for these children to die as you claim. From there, we can address your new diversion.

    Then again, seeing that you will not, maybe all your claims are just diversions?

  52. on 11 Mar 2013 at 4:13 pm 52.DPK said …

    “Maybe you can prove God plans for these children to die as anony claims.”

    That’s not my claim LOUser… remember, I think he is imaginary. It’s Christianity’s claim. Ask your buddy messenger.. everything happens according to his plan. If he is real an omnipotent, as you claim, he either planned it or allowed it.
    Yeah, the Christians are doing a lot… look at the Catholics, they spend an enormous 2.7 cents of every dollar they rake in for charity. Where does the other 97 cents go, Lou? To finance hush money for abuse vidtims, pay for papal Gucci loafers and helicoptor rides? Maybe to redecorate the Papal Apartment or to lawyers to protect church assets?

    Or maybe you belong to one of those “god hates fags” churchs who fly people around to picket the funerals of dead soldiers… or maybe you give to one of the big box churches that preach the bible of prosperity? Yeah, they throw some crumbs at 3rd world nations from the window of the Bently, huh?
    I said before, you have NO idea what I, or any other person does or does not do…. and who are you to judge anyway?
    You know who helps out the impoverished the MOST in the middle east? Al-Qaeda.
    Does that prove Allah is real? Sure it does, right.

    Want to know what kinds of things secular charities do in the world? Ever heard of Doctors Without Borders? UNICEF? Amnesty International? Goodwill? Rotary? S.H.A.R.E.?

    The simple fact is, yes, faith based groups do a lot of good in the world. So what? The fact that an individual who does not believe in a god does or does not give to a charity has no more bearing on the existence of said god than the fact that a priest who does believe in god ass rapes a 6 year old child.

    You would be better served to stop correcting typos and proved the evidence for your make believe god that you seem unable to produce. Enough with the red herrings. Nobody is buying it.

  53. on 11 Mar 2013 at 7:17 pm 53.Lou said …

    “That’s not my claim LOUser… remember, I think he is imaginary.”

    Oh, so Anony thinks God is real? I thought you were both atheists? Lets see if he can support his claim. It will be interesting.

    “The simple fact is, yes, faith based groups do a lot of good in the world. So what?”

    I know, too bad atheists do so little. Rather than spending all their money on billboards, Christmas, signs with God and fighting Christians who are doing good work, they could feed some hungry children.

  54. on 11 Mar 2013 at 7:24 pm 54.Lou said …

    “Ever heard of Doctors Without Borders? UNICEF? Amnesty International? Goodwill? Rotary? S.H.A.R.E.?”

    Yes, very much so. I have worked with (3) of them. My daughter just finished a project with Rotary International and they certainly are not atheists. Goodwill, UNICEF and DWB are a majority Christians and the majority of support comes from Christians. You can add the Red Cross to that list.

    So where are the atheists?

  55. on 11 Mar 2013 at 8:52 pm 55.DPK said …

    No, you idiot… those are secular organizations. They may have christians in them duh… because in this country most people are christians. But they are not “christian” organizations. They are not in the business of judging people, like you, and being bigoted and ignorant, like you.
    Do you have a point?
    Are you saying that because there isn’t an “Atheist Red Cross” that demonstrates that your make believe god is real? Your critical thinking skills need some serious help.
    Guess what? There is no “People who don’t believe in Gnomes Red Cross” either. But I’d say the overwhelming majority of people in the world don’t believe in gnomes. People who don’t believe in gnomes don’t give shit to charity Lou! How come you don’t see any “A-Gnomist… feeding the world” groups? You stupid twit. Would it be fair to say then that since the majority of people don’t believe in gnomes than the majority of people don’t support starving children? Your level of stupidity is absolutely astounding.

    Where are the atheists? They are everywhere. They are in your community, your government, your schools, and yes Lou… even in your church. You do know that a lot of people are “religious” simply as a social norm, right? Where they aren’t is with their hand in your pocket, asking for your money so they can help “spread the word.” But don’t worry, they most likely only laugh at you behind your back. You can always come here though, and we will laugh at you to your face.

  56. on 11 Mar 2013 at 10:02 pm 56.Lou said …

    “Do you have a point?”

    Yes, do you? Where are the atheist who are outraged over starving children? Why aren’t they feeding the children. You brought up the organizations AS IF they were atheist.

    “They are in your community, your government, your schools, and yes Lou… even in your church.”

    NOOOOOOOO, too scary.

    You are done just diversions and childlike wonder. Let’s see if anony will back up his claim that God plans for these children to die. You can join me in the anticipation.

  57. on 11 Mar 2013 at 10:09 pm 57.alex said …

    “Maybe you can prove God plans for these children to die as anony claims.”

    let’s say god didn’t. if your bullshit god doesn’t answer every prayer, then why not? you don’t know? but you sure as hell know when your god does, don’t you? when children die even when somebody prays for them why do you think that is? your god allowed it. what’s the proof? your own, declared, bullshit answered prayer, that god saved somebody because of prayer. if prayer is bullshit, then i’m wrong about your god allowing the deaths. but if prayer is bs…

    when your bullshit god allows the winning td, it disallows the other team to win. no? then giving thanks for the touchdown has to be bullshit. no?

  58. on 11 Mar 2013 at 10:35 pm 58.Anonymous said …

    Lou is a troll. Ignore him.

  59. on 11 Mar 2013 at 10:35 pm 59.The messenger said …

    55.DPK, there are many people who claim to be Atheists just to be socially normal in their society.

  60. on 11 Mar 2013 at 10:39 pm 60.alex said …

    its for my family that reads this blog….hi, familia!

  61. on 11 Mar 2013 at 10:41 pm 61.The messenger said …

    Mr. 57.alex, yes, some people do die in painful ways, but they will go to heaven afterwards if they have been kind and compassionate durring their life on Earth,

    Heaven is eternal paridice. So life heaven will be so great that those people will forget about their time in hell and they will live in happiness for all time.

  62. on 11 Mar 2013 at 10:45 pm 62.The messenger said …

    Mr. 55.DPK, you are wrong.

    They do not use the money to spead God’s word, they use it to help the poor and to repaire the Church when it is damaged.

  63. on 11 Mar 2013 at 11:21 pm 63.MrQ said …

    LOU

    God plans for these children to die.

    Isn’t it ALL part of your god (the jewish zombie) plan? Does your god grant and take life at will? Does your god know all, see all, and is all powerful?
    Lou, truly you’re a first class idiot with low class ideas.

  64. on 12 Mar 2013 at 1:29 am 64.Lou said …

    I knew anony would have to respond and would not back up his own claims. My work exposing anony as a fraud is done.

    alex,

    Son! What are you talking about? What is with TD and ballgames suddenly? You seem fond of feces. That seems appropriate coming from you cowboy.

  65. on 12 Mar 2013 at 1:47 am 65.alex said …

    bullshit = god = heaven = ufos = santa. refute it daddyo, mofo. you ask for clarity and you don’t like? move the goalpost is yo motto, trollo.

  66. on 12 Mar 2013 at 2:13 am 66.The messenger said …

    Idiot + alcohol + meth = alex.

  67. on 12 Mar 2013 at 2:15 am 67.The messenger said …

    Pot + crack + mental problems= DPK.

  68. on 12 Mar 2013 at 4:04 am 68.Anonymous said …

    Poor Lou, we’ve busted his sock puppet act so many times all he has left is to crap on the chessboard. What you don’t understand is that we see a sick and twisted individual lashing out at those around him. You think you are scoring points, but all you are doing is embarrassing yourself.

    Now, when you are ready to join in honest conversation, let us know. Until then, Lou has lost any right to ask questions or join in with the grownups.

  69. on 12 Mar 2013 at 4:20 am 69.DPK said …

    Once again , messenger and Lou/horatiio demonstrate the hyporacy of Christians by spewing their hate filled lies.

    on 12 Mar 2013 at 2:13 am 66.The messenger said …
    Idiot + alcohol + meth = alex.
    on 12 Mar 2013 at 2:15 am 67.The messenger said …
    Pot + crack + mental problems= DPK.

    James 4:11-12 ESV

    Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?

  70. on 12 Mar 2013 at 4:38 am 70.Hell Yeah said …

    When are you guys going to realize that calling each other names because you are upset what the other side said isn’t proving any points. Reading through the comments it seems half of them are childish rants. For you religious folks, your god (which ever one of the hundreds in history you choose) is watching to see who is naughty or nice (or is that Santa?, who knows, they are all make believe).

    Religous people may seem like they give more to charity because they think their god is going to reward them in the afterlife because of it, that is all. It is all subconscience, that they don’t even realize it.

  71. on 12 Mar 2013 at 4:41 am 71.Hell Yeah said …

    Here is a comedy cartoon worth watching (the whole series is worth watching actually). But this is relavent to some of the discussion about God’s priorities.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhJQ0lKTUeE

  72. on 12 Mar 2013 at 7:44 am 72.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    Mind washing+Lack of will power+Ignorance+Selfishness of wanting to live forever= Christians…

    Any one please comment on this?

  73. on 12 Mar 2013 at 8:04 am 73.The messenger said …

    Brother 69.DPK, I do not hate you or Alex.

    I was just tired of having to deal with Alex’s constant pointless insulting comments.

    I allowed my anger get the better of me, and I am truly sorry.

    I ask for you and Alex’s forgiveness.

  74. on 12 Mar 2013 at 8:36 am 74.s0l0m0n said …

    God=nothing

    Nobody could mocked him….

    Whaaa….ka…ka…ka…

  75. on 12 Mar 2013 at 8:37 am 75.The messenger said …

    Brother 70.Xcanthean Zeno, my Grand father is a Christian and a soldier in the U.S. army. He was tuffer and braver than anyone I know, and he has more will power that you or any other Athiest ever will.

    His wife was dying of brain cancer, but he kept his faith in Jesus and he kept his family together, and he was still able to raise his five kids all by himself because he had faith in God and he had will power.

  76. on 12 Mar 2013 at 8:45 am 76.The messenger said …

    on 12 Mar 2013 at 8:04 am 71.The messenger said … Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    Brother 69.DPK, I do not hate you or Alex.
    I was just tired of having to deal with Alex’s constant pointless insulting comments.
    I allowed my anger get the better of me, and I am truly sorry.
    I ask for you and Alex’s forgiveness.

  77. on 12 Mar 2013 at 8:49 am 77.The messenger said …

    Brother DPK, the fact that you used (James 4:11-12 ESV) to show me that I was wrong for loosing my temper, is conclusive proof that The Bible is a very good source of moral guidance.

  78. on 12 Mar 2013 at 10:42 am 78.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    75.The messenger said …

    Brother 70.Xcanthean Zeno, my Grand father is a Christian and a soldier in the U.S. army. He was tuffer and braver than anyone I know, and he has more will power that you or any other Athiest ever will.

    His wife was dying of brain cancer, but he kept his faith in Jesus and he kept his family together, and he was still able to raise his five kids all by himself because he had faith in God and he had will power.

    Number one: By believing in such a impossible deity, he lacks will power.
    Number two: As a christian, he is betraying his god by fighting others and doing man slaughter, ohh wait…christians are meant to do that…
    Number 3: WTF has cancer got to do with anything? the fact that she had cancer and yet he kept his belief means nothing, if my mother had cancer (which she mildly does) i would not go “ohh shit, i must pray for her to stay healthy”no, i would go “well…lets hope good stuff happens to her”
    Number 4: having will power does not equate to believing in God

  79. on 12 Mar 2013 at 10:43 am 79.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    also, you need to read a dictionary, you have so many spelling mistakes…

  80. on 12 Mar 2013 at 11:33 am 80.Paula said …

    Goodness me. I’m horrified! Fighting over who’s right or wrong, belittling one another , judging each religion and announcing it with pride is clearly messed up. Can’t you see you are all so determined that your belief is right that you have become consumed with hate and anger? Which I believe makes you all completely wrong. It’s because of this sort of hypocracy I turned away from all self righteous religions and non believers – I’m not convinced any of you deserve that honor. God is love – his message is one of peace, compassion,forgiveness, generousity humility and a honesty. God isn’t hurtful or nasty – even I can work out that if we all truely practised love – we would all stop fighting – there wouldn’t be world hunger, poverty, wars, terrorist attacks and so on.. Seriously people – you don’t even need to believe in god to practise love.
    I can only hope and pray that you all see the light and unite as one – Then finally the world can all witness the true power of God Almighty! An unstopable army of love destroying evil – Can’t you hear in yr hearts that is what he is wants? I hear it – I’m sure others do too. Don’t let pride, ego, greed and fear stand in the way – forgive each other and on with it – isn’t that a no brainer ??
    Prove his existence once and for all.
    Yours sincerely,
    Practice what you preach

  81. on 12 Mar 2013 at 1:41 pm 81.Anonymous said …

    Messenger has already made up improbable stories about his medical situation all leading to miraculous interventions. He makes stuff up as he goes along, hence like the boy who calls wolf, this story ought to be taken with several large grains of salt.

  82. on 12 Mar 2013 at 2:35 pm 82.DPK said …

    William, you have said here now that I smoke crack and pot and have mental problems. None of which are true.
    Not only have you showed your anger and hatred toward me because I don not share your beliefs about your make believe god, you have done it by telling lies.

    Why should anyone believe anything you say? You preach love, but show hate, you claim truth, but speak lies.
    You claim to be a Catholic, but you deny the most basic principals of the Catholic faith.
    You are a fraud. Simple as that. You have no credibility. Zero.

  83. on 12 Mar 2013 at 6:39 pm 83.Asher said …

    “well…lets hope good stuff happens to her”

    Which accomplishes nothing.

    Paula,

    A good word but unfortunately you are expecting pagans to live like Christ which is impossible. It goes against all of the teachings of Christ. If pagans could do what you would like to see, Christ would never had needed to come in the first place. If the world was not fallen and cursed Jesus would not have had to come. You are looking for the new kingdom but it has yet to come.

  84. on 12 Mar 2013 at 7:56 pm 84.The messenger said …

    Brother 78.Xcanthean Zeno, it is easy to forget about Jesus and loose faith in him.

    A person with strong will power would keep his faith in God and would not resort to Atheism or anti theism.

  85. on 12 Mar 2013 at 8:02 pm 85.The messenger said …

    Brother 82.DPK, I was wrong for insulting you.

    I let my anger get the better of me, I humbly apologize.

    You should listen to what I preach because I am the bigger man in this confict, because I apologized for my insult; but you still have yet to apologize for the many hateful insults that you have stated about me.

  86. on 12 Mar 2013 at 9:20 pm 86.alex said …

    “A good word but unfortunately you are expecting pagans to live like Christ which is impossible. ”

    does anybody in here, give a fuck about pagans? go away with that shit and come back when you got something, you righteous, asshole, talking shit.

    “Fighting over who’s right or wrong…”

    you’re confused. nobody’s fighting, it’s just bullshit repelling. when i says bullshit, shut me up by proving me wrong. hey, i thought the earth was flat until somebody corrected me.

  87. on 12 Mar 2013 at 9:28 pm 87.The messenger said …

    Sister 80.Paula, I see that you contain great wisdom.

    I respect you, but I am not prideful. I see so much sin coming from Athiesm everyday that I know we must stand against it and Proventil it from tainting humanity further.

  88. on 12 Mar 2013 at 9:37 pm 88.alex said …

    “God=nothing
    Nobody could mocked him….”

    yeah, but you feel free to praise/thank him for your sheep? damn desert dweller. ka, ka, shit. and righteous enough to defend him?

  89. on 12 Mar 2013 at 9:48 pm 89.The messenger said …

    Mr. 88.alex, I honestly do no think that anyone on this site (including you) understood your comment.

  90. on 13 Mar 2013 at 2:31 am 90.DPK said …

    “Seriously people – you don’t even need to believe in god to practise love.”

    Well, finally, a theist that has said something true.

    “unfortunately you are expecting pagans to live like Christ which is impossible.”

    Asher, you have absolutely no idea how I live my life, now do you? But you assume I am evil because I don’t share your delusion.
    Can you honestly not see how bigoted and hateful you are?
    You judge me, and you have no idea. None.
    Pagans? Yeah, I haven’t heard that term used by anyone since I was in third grade and we used to collect dimes and quarters to “save the pagan babies” in Africa or somewhere. Presumably from a life of cannibalism and dark magic.
    Instead of coming on here with your bullshit diversions, why don’t you just go pray for us “pagans”? Wouldn’t that do a whole lot more good? Yeah, try that.

  91. on 13 Mar 2013 at 2:50 am 91.Paula said …

    Hi y’all,
    Thanks for commenting. All of us are entitled to our opinion, after all Gid ha e us free will. I’ve never read the bible nor follow religion as I stated earlier. I simply made a decision to put my faith in all that is good and practise it. I don’t intentionally hurt anyone, slander or judge and lead a honest life. Not based on God bit because in my heart if hearts I know it’s right. I’ve recently been in the position to help out family members financially to help as most are in minimum wage and struggle everyday. I gave without asking as I believed it was right. Since then all have slandered my name, judged without knowledge and turned their backs on me. All of whom lead unholy or what others would perceive as immoral lives. Boy, did that hurt. I questioned myself – why? Don’t they know who I am? What causes them to hate someone who has never given them reason? I felt alone – misunderstood and unloved. Two days after this happened, I here a knock in my door. Two well dress ladies in their late 50s introduced themselves from Jehovah Witness and handed me a booklet with a picture if Jesus on the front said good bye and left. I took it on hand, looked at the front page and threw it in the bin. I wasn’t until yesterday after speaking to a friend in the phone, it dawned in me – I was just reminded that all is not lost – Jesus appeared – ok not in the conventional manor – but never the less – he appeared. My take on it is – Jesus wanted me to know that he is with me and lot to loss faith. It was then I stumbled across this blog and felt I needed to say something. Now, I am not one to preach anything – I me we have – goodness I haven’t even read the bible. So what gives me the right? All I know is if everyone who follows any God or believes in love should realise that God is love – if we feel love and feel loved – then hasn’t God appeared to us already? Maybe, just maybe, we would all have the proof we need and stop doubting if he exists – blaming him for the state the world is in and get together to try and fix it. I have no idea how many people follow religion – but I’m guessing is a huge majority if the worlds population all did something together united as one to solve the worlds problems – I believe they would. Huge ask I know – it may mean that you may need to part with your wealth, give your time, help someone whom you feel is lower than you or humble yourself. I struggle to think that the wealthy churches and people of this world, along with anyone else are prepared to do that. Cause if they did, wouldn’t they have done it already? It’s “sin” that prevents them – fear of Lose, pride, ego, greed etc. That is why the world is in such a mess!! Most churches (not all) don’t even know that effectively they are preaching sin by their inability to truely give themselves over to God:Love.. Ha ha! Funny right? God must think we are the biggest pack of idiots – he must be thinking “why aren’t they listening to me?!!Why are they preaching sin and promoting evil in my name?!! Know wonder according to the bible (thanks google) he gets pretty mad in the end and destroys us all in the worst possible way. ***end of rant***

  92. on 13 Mar 2013 at 3:14 am 92.Paula said …

    Sorry about my terrible grammar – I sometimes am typing to fast to see I have made a spelling mistake and my iPhone predicts something totally different… I’ll proof read in the future.

  93. on 13 Mar 2013 at 9:08 am 93.Anonymous said …

    Paula, for someone claiming not to follow religion, you sure use a lot of Christian-specific words and phrases. Who is kidding who here?

    Still, if we accept your claim at face value, which god are you referring to and how do you know this one is real? Are the others false, and how do you know that?

    Also, what do you even need a good for in your essay? You seem to be saying help each other and be nice. This requires a supernatural being how?

    Finally. What prompted you to post and what is the connection with the subject of the blog post?

  94. on 13 Mar 2013 at 1:13 pm 94.Curmudgeon said …

    Paula,

    Thank you for sharing in a loving way. Isn’t funny how atheist who say they know more Bible than Christians but criticize those who use the words of the Bible like love, sin and God.

    I apologize in advance for those here eh use such offensive language and attack theists in such vile manner. Beware of trolls who use names like anonymous.

  95. on 13 Mar 2013 at 3:12 pm 95.DPK said …

    “I’ve never read the bible nor follow religion..”
    That’s obvious.. I HAVE read the bible. It’s hard to make a statement like “God is Love” after actually reading the bible. So, I take it your conclusion is the god of the bible is not the “real” god?

    “I simply made a decision to put my faith in all that is good and practise it…”

    Hood for you. I do the same. Why does that require faith in a magical being to do that? In fact, according the the theists here, you cannot know what is good without having read the bible,,because that is the source of absolute morality… and of course, the proper way to offer blood sacrifices and burnt offerings.. both of which the biblical god delights in.

    “My take on it is – Jesus wanted me to know that he is with me and lot to loss faith.”

    Tell me… if it by chance had been someone selling vacuum cleaners that knocked on your door would you have taken that as a sign that god was telling you to clean your house? Assigning meanings to random events while ignoring other random events is kind of crazy, don’t you think? If you happen across an atheist billboard somewhere advising you to “Just be good.. for goodness sake”, why don’t you take that as a sign that the universe is telling you there is no god? You put meaning where you WANT to see it.

    “maybe, we would all have the proof we need and stop doubting if he exists – blaming him for the state the world is in and get together to try and fix it.”

    You miss the point. Atheists don’t “blame god” for the state of the world. We simply point to reality as evidence that god is imaginary.

    “God must think we are the biggest pack of idiots – ”
    By definition, god must actually be thinking that we are behaving exactly the way he designed us to… and that everything is unfolding exactly as he planned it, and exactly as he knew it would.
    If an engineer designs a car so that the wheels fall of after 100 miles, why would he be surprised when the wheels fall off after 100 miles? And who’s fault would it be, the car’s, or the engineer’s?
    Sorry, if you are willing to say god is in control, and give him credit for everything good in the world, then you also have to give him credit for everything bad in the world… because according to you.. he made it that way.

    “wonder according to the bible (thanks google) he gets pretty mad in the end and destroys us all in the worst possible way.”

    Much like a master who doesn’t take his dog outside and then beats him to death for going to the bathroom in the house… why does god “destroy us all in the worst possible way” if god is love? And remember, since this is predicted in the bible and supposedly WILL happen according to god’s plan… why is it our fault? We have no choice in the matter. To do so would violate god’s plan and his perfect knowledge!

    Why can’t you see that what you are claiming makes absolutely no sense?

  96. on 13 Mar 2013 at 4:37 pm 96.s0l0m0n said …

    Paula,

    I guess you’re one confuse subject. Be firm with your standings first.

  97. on 13 Mar 2013 at 5:02 pm 97.Anonymous said …

    ah, the return of curmudgeon. One of several sock puppets determined to disrupt the conversation by projecting his trolling onto others to stop questions asked of theists.

    Paula. Dare you answer those questions? Curmudgeon won’t, hence his desire to stop you too. Cue the other sock puppets to bury the questions to Paula under a mound of diversions and other logical fallacies.

  98. on 13 Mar 2013 at 5:45 pm 98.Anonymous said …

    Paula, one more thing. Do you not see that at a time of being emotionally vulnerable and searching for “meaning”, that you took a torturous path in taking a nondescript event and assigning it supernatural provenance?

  99. on 13 Mar 2013 at 10:17 pm 99.Severin said …

    #74
    “God=nothing”

    Only a week or two ago you told us that god is not nothing, but is equivalent of nothing.

    What is it now?
    God IS nothing?God EQUALS nothing?
    You believe in nothing?

    Illogical, inconsequential, …, idiot!

  100. on 13 Mar 2013 at 10:39 pm 100.The messenger said …

    on 12 Mar 2013 at 8:02 pm 85.The messenger said …
    Brother 82.DPK, I was wrong for insulting you.
    I let my anger get the better of me, I humbly apologize.
    You should listen to what I preach because I am the bigger man in this confict, because I apologized for my insult; but you still have yet to apologize for the many hateful insults that you have stated about me.

  101. on 13 Mar 2013 at 11:15 pm 101.alex said …

    ” Isn’t funny how atheist who say they know more Bible than Christians but criticize those who use the words of the Bible like love, sin and God.”

    if you stoned adulters and i criticize you and tell you that stoning adulters is bible bullshit, will you find it funny?

  102. on 14 Mar 2013 at 12:41 am 102.alex said …

    “You should listen to what I preach because I am the bigger man in this confict, because I apologized for my insult;”

    what a moron. you get called out on your bullshit and you want apologies? not really sure, that atheists hate you, but the scorn, pity, puzzlement, dread, and other things heaped upon you, is deserved.

    i went to a santa nonbeliever site one time and i argued that i’m a firm, faithful believer in the jolly old elf. surprise, but i got the exact same reception as you, ole mess. now begone! in the name of santa!

  103. on 14 Mar 2013 at 1:21 am 103.DPK said …

    Messenger…
    I’m sorry if I have not been forthright with you. Let me set the record straight, I AM very sorry that you are a deluded idiot. I don’t hate you, never have, and I’m not angry with you, never have been.
    Feel better?

  104. on 14 Mar 2013 at 2:10 am 104.The messenger said …

    Brother DPK, you have not only provided conclusive proof that proves my claim of myself being the bigger man in this debate, you have also proven that you are a HYPOCRITE.

    You criticize me when I loose my temper, but you loose your temper and presented your hate towards me within comment 103.
    I pity you.

  105. on 14 Mar 2013 at 2:45 am 105.The messenger said …

    Mr. 102.alex, the only thing that I was called out on, was loosing my temper.

    Therefore, I apologized for my anger, and I respectfully asked DPK to apologize for the times that he lost his temper ( which he failed to do so).

  106. on 14 Mar 2013 at 6:18 am 106.s0l0m0n said …

    Severin,

    God=nothing
    But God exist.
    Is that too dumb for you to understand?

  107. on 14 Mar 2013 at 7:47 am 107.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    106.s0l0m0n said …
    Severin,
    God=nothing
    But God exist.
    Is that too dumb for you to understand?

    You sir…
    ARE A FUCKING, IDIOT

    that is all

  108. on 14 Mar 2013 at 8:00 am 108.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    As a brony, i often get hate mail ;D (yay me 9_6 )
    some of which come from thiests who claim i am evil, will go to hell, and basicaly should die for watching the show.
    can any one please explain this?

  109. on 14 Mar 2013 at 8:57 am 109.alex said …

    if your god is nothing, why is the koran full of bullshit? it should only have blank pages. and nothing should be coming out of your mouth, but instead….

    now, shut up and follow your nothing god.

  110. on 14 Mar 2013 at 11:24 am 110.The messenger said …

    Brother DPK, you have not only provided conclusive proof that proves my claim of myself being the bigger man in this debate, you have also proven that you are a HYPOCRITE.

    You criticize me when I loose my temper, but you loose your temper and presented your hate towards me within comment 103.
    I pity you.

    Mr. 102.alex, the only thing that I was called out on, was loosing my temper.

    Therefore, I apologized for my anger, and I respectfully asked DPK to apologize for the times that he lost his temper ( which he failed to do so).

  111. on 14 Mar 2013 at 3:35 pm 111.s0l0m0n said …

    alex rantings have no substance at all.Just fit for the drains.

  112. on 14 Mar 2013 at 7:52 pm 112.DPK said …

    106.s0l0m0n said …
    “Severin,
    God=nothing
    But God exist.
    Is that too dumb for you to understand?”

    Yes, Solomon… you’ve got it exactly right. That is too dumb for ANYONE to understand. At least you now admit it is dumb.

    So now you see why we reject your claim without reservation… it is a dumb idea presented by a dumb person, and it is presented without any evidence to back it up. You might as well claim that an inter dimensional sea turtle farted the universe into existence out of his inter dimensional asshole, or something completely insane like that!

    yuk yuk yuk….

  113. on 14 Mar 2013 at 8:21 pm 113.The messenger said …

    Solomon, do not listen to DPK.

    You are a vital part of the fight against Atheism.

  114. on 14 Mar 2013 at 11:09 pm 114.alex said …

    “You are a vital part of the fight against Atheism.”

    this is why i curse. fucking muslims and xtians cannot possible coexist, no matter how the progressive theists spin it and there is a fight against atheists?

    messenger, do you even know what bullshit is? if you say something, and i say bullshit, will you fight me?

  115. on 14 Mar 2013 at 11:13 pm 115.DPK said …

    Yes, it is better to believe in ANY crazy ass shit… Even Solomon who ALSO believes messengers god is completely imaginary, or any other god or magical being, rather than none at all.
    Yeah, that makes sense.
    I’m beginning to understand why Alex curses…. We are surrounded by fucking idiots!

  116. on 14 Mar 2013 at 11:17 pm 116.DPK said …

    So how about you William. You think Solomon is “vital” in the fight against non-believers. Do you agree with him that Jesus was NOT the son of god, that your god is false, and that god = nothing?
    He also says you are destined for hell unless you renounce your god and worship his!
    Since you think his opinion is important, I take it you agree with him?
    And you claim I smoke crack and have a mental illness!

  117. on 15 Mar 2013 at 12:49 am 117.s0l0m0n said …

    Me and other theists are allies in matters concerning there should be a deity or God who manages everything. But when come to faith we could discuss and debate and arrive to a conclusion that there must be only one true God almighty.
    So there’s no fuss.

  118. on 15 Mar 2013 at 12:54 am 118.s0l0m0n said …

    DPK,
    God=nothing
    But God exist.
    Is that ‘too dumb for you’ to understand?”
    I did’nt mean the issue is dumb.
    I mean it’s you that is too dumb to understand the issue.

  119. on 15 Mar 2013 at 1:57 am 119.DPK said …

    DPK,
    God=nothing
    But God exist.
    Is that ‘too dumb for you’ to understand?”
    I did’nt mean the issue is dumb.
    I mean it’s you that is too dumb to understand the issue.

    No, you had it right. It is too dumb to understand.
    Are you too dumb to comprehend that?
    Aparantly so.

    If you are cool with Williams god, or some other god, as long as there is a god… Why do you have a problem with sea turtle? How come you respect messengers beliefs, but not mine?

  120. on 15 Mar 2013 at 5:07 am 120.DPK said …

    “Therefore, I apologized for my anger, and I respectfully asked DPK to apologize for the times that he lost his temper ( which he failed to do so).”

    You mistake my pointing out the flaws in your reasoning and the stupidity of your ideas for anger. It is not. I am not angry at you, and I do not hate you. You are once again projecting your feelings on me. I don’t hate you, I feel sorry for you because you are lavishing devotion and attention to a thing that is a figment of your imagination.
    If you had a friend who spent his days talking to an invisible rabbit, and spent a good deal of his time trying to convince you that his invisible rabbit was real, wouldn’t you feel sorry for him and try to show him that his rabbit was just his imagination?
    You are the person with the invisible rabbit… And know what, William? You know it’s all make believe. That’s why you spend your time here. You are trying to convince yourself, not me, or sev, or Alex or Lou. You are looking for someone to validate you. And look who you found… Crazy ass Solomon who says insane things like god=nothing, but god exists. As if that means anything. Is that what you seek? Validation from a crazy person?

  121. on 15 Mar 2013 at 8:15 am 121.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    /\spot on

    Btw, if any theists can make a VALID reason on how god exists, i will personaly join you religion, so start xD

  122. on 15 Mar 2013 at 9:12 am 122.s0l0m0n said …

    “If you are cool with Williams god, or some other god, as long as there is a god… Why do you have a problem with sea turtle? How come you respect messengers beliefs, but not mine?”

    You are not demonstrating God. You are just fooling around.Tell me which atheists recognize a God?

    I respect messengers beliefs coz he recognizes the existence of one true God.I respect him only up to that point.

  123. on 15 Mar 2013 at 3:15 pm 123.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    HOW DARE THEE INSULT THE TURTLE!
    you will (((BURN))) in <<>> for your (((BLESPHAMY)))

    HUEHUEHUEHUE

  124. on 15 Mar 2013 at 4:23 pm 124.s0l0m0n said …

    Xcanthean Zeno has lost all arguments…..

  125. on 15 Mar 2013 at 5:23 pm 125.alex said …

    “Xcanthean Zeno has lost all arguments”

    who fucking cares? i don’t care if you got syphilis from you sheep girlfriend. nobody cares if i have bad grammar of bad keyboard or bad breath.

    your bullshit won’t fly here and your diversions are tiring. your so called proofs are laughable. when somebody tries to paraphrase your proof, you complain? your proof of hell is gaze at the sun? wtf? gaze at the turtle is the same exact bullshit, no? i would rather worship the turtle than deal with your bullshit god.

  126. on 15 Mar 2013 at 7:38 pm 126.DPK said …

    “124.s0l0m0n said …

    Xcanthean Zeno has lost all arguments…..”

    No, he hasn’t. You have.

    I can play this as long as you can….

    yuk yuk yuk…..

    “I respect messengers beliefs coz he recognizes the existence of one true God.I respect him only up to that point.”

    yuk yuk yuk… but messenger does not recognize YOUR god as the one true god. In fact, messenger thinks that in a fight, his Jesus/Yahweh/Holy Ghost god can kick your Alla god’s ass.
    I just think sea turtle is a good compromise that everyone can agree on. Sea turtle doesn’t send people to hell. He’s pretty chill, actually.

    You have never told us why you reject the idea of sea turtle. Why is it any less believable than Mohammad riding to heaven on a winged horse?

  127. on 15 Mar 2013 at 9:11 pm 127.The messenger said …

    Brother 120.DPK, stop spreading lies about me.

    I do recognize Solomon’s God as the one true God.
    We simply have different beliefs regarding God.

  128. on 16 Mar 2013 at 2:03 am 128.s0l0m0n said …

    Talking about horses, think about the phrase below;

    God have made the housefly fly
    Then God could make horses fly too

    yuk yuk yuk…..(not funny at all)

  129. on 16 Mar 2013 at 2:45 am 129.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    no…
    god did not make house flies
    and a horse could not physically fly due to weight

    all of your sentences just went kasplody

  130. on 16 Mar 2013 at 8:52 am 130.s0l0m0n said …

    “and a horse could not physically fly due to weight”

    Xcanthean Zeno…you are a f****n idiot.

    Just create bigger wings.

    Case closed.

  131. on 16 Mar 2013 at 8:01 pm 131.The messenger said …

    God could change the molecular structure of the horse making it less dence than oxygen, thus making it fly.

    Or he could make the bones of the horse hollow like a bird, and he could give it bigger wings.

  132. on 16 Mar 2013 at 11:23 pm 132.s0l0m0n said …

    The messenger,

    Atheists just don’t realize what creation can produce.

  133. on 17 Mar 2013 at 12:06 am 133.Anonymous said …

    Useless gods with their “could do this”, let’s talk about the ones that did.

    Look in the night sky, do you not know the constellation Pegasus? Pegasus was a horse that could fly, and Zeus placed him there for us to marvel at. Prove me wrong if you can.

    Those Greek gods really walked the walk. Let’s see Solomon or messengers god do something other than produce excuses. If they can’t prove they exist, we might as well stay with the gods that deliver the goods.

  134. on 17 Mar 2013 at 12:59 am 134.Lou said …

    Anonymouse prove to me you are real. Until you can, you are not and you are just a random dropping of cow dung that has fell on a keyboard.

    Balls in your court.

    Messenger.

    You have just described the theory of evolution. With time and natural selection anything is possible, well, at least, that is what biologist would tell us and God is not needed to design these systems.

  135. on 17 Mar 2013 at 1:14 am 135.Anonymous said …

    Poor Lou, stung into action with a story about a god greater than his he responds with his usual personal insults and tiresome diversions.

    Well, seeing as Lou refuses to answer questions here, runs away from them in fact, his post is yet-another attempt to change the subject. I’d say nice try, but I don’t want to lie. Also, it’s hard to be offended by someone as transparent as he is.

    Messenger and Solomon. The Greek gods have you beat. They came and did the flying horse thing way before your lot came on the scene. Sorry, your “could have” excuses are seriously outmatched by their stories.

    Solomon, I’m puzzled though. Doesn’t your boy have the Buraq to boast about? Not as cool as Pegasus by a long shot but how comes your side doesn’t deliver the flying horse goods nowadays?

  136. on 17 Mar 2013 at 4:07 am 136.s0l0m0n said …

    Lou,

    “With time and natural selection anything is possible, well, at least, that is what biologist would tell us and God is not needed to design these systems.”

    Creation does not need evolution,time or natural selection crap.Creation can happen in no time or limits. Pooofff!! and that’s it, a brand new species.

  137. on 17 Mar 2013 at 4:21 am 137.s0l0m0n said …

    Anonymous,

    Pegasus is just a product of man’s imaginations. See….the true God purposely create the idea of a winged horse during the greek era just to create the real horse much years later.

    It’s that simple…

  138. on 17 Mar 2013 at 11:03 am 138.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    As a person who knows atleast some basic physics and anatomy.
    there is NO way you could get a horse to fly via wings.

  139. on 17 Mar 2013 at 11:13 am 139.DPK said …

    You could strap a rocket to its ass. With sufficient thrust, horses fly just fine.
    Landing would present a different set of problems.
    Yeah, Solomon’s answer to everything is, no need to understand anything. Poof! No explanation necessary.
    If he had his way, we’d still be living in caves and howling at the moon.

  140. on 17 Mar 2013 at 12:24 pm 140.alex said …

    “Pegasus is just a product of man’s imaginations. See….the true God purposely create the idea of a winged horse during the greek era just to create the real horse much years later.”

    i get it. you’re a comedian, but a bad one. your attempt at outrageous is not working. you need new material. enter “da bible”.

  141. on 17 Mar 2013 at 2:07 pm 141.The messenger said …

    Brother 132.s0l0m0n,

    You are correct.

  142. on 17 Mar 2013 at 2:08 pm 142.The messenger said …

    Brother 140.alex, God can do anything.

    Why do you doubt this.

  143. on 17 Mar 2013 at 2:09 pm 143.The messenger said …

    on 16 Mar 2013 at 8:01 pm 131.The messenger said …
    God could change the molecular structure of the horse making it less dence than oxygen, thus making it fly.
    Or he could make the bones of the horse hollow like a bird, and he could give it bigger wings.

  144. on 17 Mar 2013 at 2:59 pm 144.s0l0m0n said …

    Xcanthean Zeno,

    Don’t try to bluff. God just could make anything fly.

    DPK,

    “You could strap a rocket to its ass. With sufficient thrust, horses fly just fine.”

    No….God does not need a rocket to fly the horse. The rocket is a primitive invention discovered billions of years later after God could fly all flying animals with fine wings.

    You’re the primitive lots DPK but you don’t realize.

  145. on 17 Mar 2013 at 10:30 pm 145.showme2 said …

    you couldn’t really address GOD’s existence if you wanted to. GOD is. look around. look up at night. do all the math and physics and chemistry . you’re right . they don’t explain it all …. no beginning, no end. our little brain will just take us so far and GOD is of course beyond that. please get your thinking straightened out and quit listening to these frustrated attention craving nincompoops.

  146. on 18 Mar 2013 at 12:56 am 146.alex said …

    “you couldn’t really address GOD’s existence if you wanted to.”

    santa claus, moron. how’s it different? gtfooh.

  147. on 18 Mar 2013 at 2:35 am 147.The messenger said …

    146.alex, I feel great pain within you brother. Something happened in your past that is corrupting you, and causing you to doupt Jesus.

    You are afraid to believe because you are afraid of being letdown. I promise you, you will not be abandoned by God. He loves you, and he will always love you brother.

  148. on 18 Mar 2013 at 4:19 am 148.s0l0m0n said …

    That’s why the true religion is true.
    God=nothing…

  149. on 18 Mar 2013 at 6:33 am 149.s0l0m0n said …

    Bravo…!!! showme2….Bravo…..!!

  150. on 18 Mar 2013 at 8:49 am 150.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    Sol said…
    Xcanthean Zeno,
    Don’t try to bluff. God just could make anything fly.

    I dont think you get it…
    Due to weight, there is no physical way a horse could fly without a major physical reshape, even then im not so sure.
    Hollow bones, molecular changes, big wings. It doesnt matter, if you see the largest flight able reptile (cant remember its name, just google it) even in a high oxygen atmosphere, it was only capable of gliding, and it weighed about as much as a small human, yet alone a HORSE ;D. and an albotross, a relitivly small bird, needs an IMMENSE wingspan to fly, a horse would need about….50 feet of wings to fly? which is simply not possible due to a horse being incapable of storing that much muscle.

    Tl’DR version
    horses couldnt fly

  151. on 18 Mar 2013 at 8:50 am 151.s0l0m0n said …

    The messenger,

    Jesus is not God. Don’t bring others to Hell along with you. Please brother…This is a sincere advice.

  152. on 18 Mar 2013 at 9:01 am 152.s0l0m0n said …

    Xcanthean Zeno,

    That’s what you think. It doesn’t matter if the horse needs more than 50 feet wingspan to fly, as long as it can fly is suffice. Able to fly is the topic of this issue.Size doesn’t matter. God had created bigger animals like the whale.The muscle problem is of no significant problem.

  153. on 18 Mar 2013 at 9:09 am 153.s0l0m0n said …

    God could create anything. It only need a bit of creativity. I guess the atheists are not the creative lots.

  154. on 18 Mar 2013 at 9:40 am 154.alex said …

    s0l = nongratisCount#8
    mess = nongratisCount#13

  155. on 18 Mar 2013 at 10:31 am 155.The messenger said …

    on 18 Mar 2013 at 2:35 am 147.The messenger said …
    146.alex, I feel great pain within you brother. Something happened in your past that is corrupting you, and causing you to doupt Jesus.
    You are afraid to believe because you are afraid of being letdown. I promise you, you will not be abandoned by God. He loves you, and he will always love you brother.

  156. on 18 Mar 2013 at 12:15 pm 156.MrQ said …

    horses couldnt fly

    I sense we’ll get some more horse shit flying from Sol. Maybe he means it was a little pink fairy dust sprinkling unicorn that transported his main man to the moon. Unicorns are almost similar to horses, sort of. Does Allan get a free pass on this magic moment, Sol? Ooops, I mean’t “Allah”, of course!!

  157. on 18 Mar 2013 at 6:34 pm 157.alex said …

    mess = nongratisCount#14

  158. on 19 Mar 2013 at 12:49 am 158.s0l0m0n said …

    MrQ,

    You couldn’t deny the logic that horses could fly.

  159. on 19 Mar 2013 at 3:23 am 159.The messenger said …

    on 18 Mar 2013 at 10:31 am 155.The messenger said …
    on 18 Mar 2013 at 2:35 am 147.The messenger said …
    146.alex, I feel great pain within you brother. Something happened in your past that is corrupting you, and causing you to doupt Jesus.
    You are afraid to believe because you are afraid of being letdown. I promise you, you will not be abandoned by God. He loves you, and he will always love you brother.

  160. on 19 Mar 2013 at 7:03 am 160.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    152.s0l0m0n said …
    Xcanthean Zeno,
    That’s what you think. It doesn’t matter if the horse needs more than 50 feet wingspan to fly, as long as it can fly is suffice. Able to fly is the topic of this issue.Size doesn’t matter. God had created bigger animals like the whale.The muscle problem is of no significant problem.

    GAH
    i dont think you get it…
    the amount of muscle that would be needed for a 50 foot wingspan simply could not fit in the horse…unless you made it bigger, which would need exponentially larger wings, and MORE muscle.

    simply put, there is no way a horse can fly with wings.

  161. on 19 Mar 2013 at 7:06 am 161.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    not to mention that a whale sized horse would die from its own weight, and would need over a mile of wingspan and a stupidly high metabolism to survive, and again, would need more muscle than you could fit in it to make it fly.

    please remember that when you square an animal, you cube its weight.

  162. on 19 Mar 2013 at 7:08 am 162.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    Sol said…
    God could create anything. It only need a bit of creativity. I guess the atheists are not the creative lots.

    no, he could not make an ant that weighs a ton.
    he cannot make an insect sized horse.
    he could not make a horse fly via wings.
    he could not make a whale fly.
    he could not make a snail that travels 20 miles per hour.
    ect
    want any more impossibilities?

  163. on 19 Mar 2013 at 9:38 am 163.s0l0m0n said …

    Xcanthean Zeno,

    Don’t try to demonstrate more bluffs. Look at the housefly. It’s wings is barely smaller than it’s body. You’re very uncreative Xcanthean Zeno. You’re a lousy designer.

  164. on 19 Mar 2013 at 12:11 pm 164.Anonymous said …

    XZ, you’re being trolled. Solomon is just special-pleading you to death. His response to everything is “well, god could do that”. He needs to prove it, not claim it.

  165. on 19 Mar 2013 at 3:27 pm 165.DPK said …

    Well. if Santa can make reindeer fly, god can make a horse fly. What more explanation do you need beyond that?

    I can’t believe you guys are even dignifying his silliness with a response, and are actually debating the reality of flying horses and which make believe god is more powerful than which.

  166. on 19 Mar 2013 at 4:33 pm 166.s0l0m0n said …

    Anonymous,

    Reasoning is good enough proof.

  167. on 19 Mar 2013 at 8:21 pm 167.alex said …

    s0l = nongratisCount#9
    mess = nongratisCount#15

  168. on 19 Mar 2013 at 8:56 pm 168.DPK said …

    166.s0l0m0n said …
    Anonymous,
    Reasoning is good enough proof….

    Proof of the old adage “ignorance is bliss.”

    Follow this Solomon and understand, you simple minded fool: 1. If an all powerful inter-dimensional sea turtle were to fart into the quantum nothingness, that would certainly create a big bang and cause a universe to materialize from his quantum asshole.
    2. Look around, you idiot. There is a universe here, and all evidence points to the fact that it originated in a big bang. So, obviously that proves that the sea turtle not only is real, but my creation story is true. Evidence is undeniable, it is all around you.
    3. You cannot refute this. Your reasoning is weak and pointless.

    yuk yuk yuk….

  169. on 19 Mar 2013 at 8:59 pm 169.The messenger said …

    Solomon, read the following link and you will see that Jesus and God are the same person.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfiguration_of_Jesus

  170. on 19 Mar 2013 at 11:11 pm 170.alex said …

    these fuckers just don’t get it. they fail to see that their arguments used with a different subject/god is exactly the same thing. from jesus to allah is a very small leap, but from ra to zeus to santa is an unbridgeable chasm. hell/heaven is a helpless/hopeless addiction. living an average of 50+ years is not enough, i guess.

  171. on 20 Mar 2013 at 12:51 am 171.s0l0m0n said …

    “1. If an all powerful inter-dimensional sea turtle were to fart into the quantum nothingness, that would certainly create a big bang and cause a universe to materialize from his quantum asshole.”

    The above is ((((RUBBISH)))) & fit for the drains of fame.

  172. on 20 Mar 2013 at 12:54 am 172.s0l0m0n said …

    alex..why don’t you just shut up & only rant
    (((non-gratis))))

  173. on 20 Mar 2013 at 1:28 am 173.alex said …

    s0l = nongratisCount#10

  174. on 20 Mar 2013 at 2:02 am 174.DPK said …

    “The above is ((((RUBBISH)))) & fit for the drains of fame.”

    No, it isn’t.

    Why? Because YOU say so?
    You think horses can fly.
    I’m right, you’re wrong.

    See how it works Solomon? Things asserted without evidence are dismissed without reason.

  175. on 20 Mar 2013 at 2:04 am 175.The messenger said …

    173.alex, you failed.

  176. on 20 Mar 2013 at 2:05 am 176.The messenger said …

    on 17 Mar 2013 at 2:09 pm 143.The messenger said …
    on 16 Mar 2013 at 8:01 pm 131.The messenger said …
    God could change the molecular structure of the horse making it less dence than oxygen, thus making it fly.
    Or he could make the bones of the horse hollow like a bird, and he could give it bigger wings.

  177. on 20 Mar 2013 at 2:06 am 177.alex said …

    “Things asserted without evidence are dismissed without reason.”

    s0l, comprende? too deep? in sheep?

  178. on 20 Mar 2013 at 2:42 am 178.The messenger said …

    Brother 177.alex, once again you have failed to provide any information supporting your opinion.

    You have failed again. To quote a certain Disney character; Alex “(you are a sad, strange little man, I pity you)”.

  179. on 20 Mar 2013 at 2:47 am 179.The messenger said …

    Brother Alex, God loves all people equally. He does not favor anyone over anyone else, we are all equal under him.

    Suffering occurs in our lives as a test to teach us to keep our moral values even in the face of danger or pain of anykind. If we succeed in staying kind, compassionate, loving, and forgiving people durring our time on Earth, we will go to heaven as soon as we die. But if we live greedy, prideful, hateful, or jealous lives, then we will spend some time in hell until we are sent to purgatory to receive another chance to be good people.

    God experiences more pain than we can possibly imagin, and he does it all for us., because he loves us. He died so that we could go to heaven.

    Alex you are very ungrateful.

  180. on 20 Mar 2013 at 2:54 am 180.DPK said …

    on 19 Mar 2013 at 8:59 pm 169.The messenger said …
    Solomon, read the following link and you will see that Jesus and God are the same person.
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfiguration_of_Jesus

    Yeah Solomon, a wiki article describing the transfiguration is “proof”. I mean, there’s even a picture, so it must be true right?

    Now, tell us exactly why you reject messenger’s claim that this is proof of Jesus’ divinity. We really want to know why.

  181. on 20 Mar 2013 at 5:22 am 181.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    Xcanthean Zeno,
    Don’t try to demonstrate more bluffs. Look at the housefly. It’s wings is barely smaller than it’s body. You’re very uncreative Xcanthean Zeno. You’re a lousy designer.

    GAH
    as i said, as a creatures dimensions are larger, its weight becomes far larger in comparison.
    a fly can fly due to its small size, which allows flight.
    but a horse could not fly due to its weight being far larger in comparison.

    please read about the square to cube rule.

  182. on 20 Mar 2013 at 11:05 am 182.s0l0m0n said …

    “GAH
    as i said, as a creatures dimensions are larger, its weight becomes far larger in comparison.”

    As it’s weight becomes larger, surely it needs more powerful wings. That’s the trick. A more powerful wings.Look at helicopters. A powerful engine & blades makes it possible for it’s huge weight to fly.You’re a bluffer Xcanthean Zeno.

  183. on 20 Mar 2013 at 12:52 pm 183.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    *sigh*
    it seems its going to take a lot to get information through your mind.

    you see, a helicopter is far more powerful than muscles when it comes to lift, this is also due to how rotors are more efficient than wings.

    of course having “more powerful wings” seems like the answer, but that makes more implications, such as the muscle mass needed to move those wings, the bone structure to attach the muscles, and the membrane, or feathers to line the wings.
    while you are (semi…) correct about making it simply more powerful, the only way to do this is to increase the density of the muscles, that would require stronger bones and make the whole animal weigh more. Also, a helicopter can convert massive amounts of chemical energy, in the form of high octane fuel. An animal could theoretically do the same via burning sugars, at the size of a horse, the metabolism needed is impossible to accomplish, and even if you could somehow reach the needed metabolism, the poor horse would die from its own cells cooking themselves from the resulting heat.

  184. on 20 Mar 2013 at 12:55 pm 184.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    again, please read the square to cube rule

  185. on 20 Mar 2013 at 12:58 pm 185.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    actualy…
    please read a basic physic/biology book…

  186. on 20 Mar 2013 at 1:36 pm 186.freddies_dead said …

    You’re pissing in the wind XZ s0l doesn’t care about physics or biology.

    s0ls God can do everything that s0l claims He can simply because s0l imagines it to be true – just like he imagines that his God is real.

  187. on 20 Mar 2013 at 4:06 pm 187.s0l0m0n said …

    Xcanthean Zeno,

    You are sighting the physical rules inside your scope of knowledge. As freddies mention “s0ls God can do everything” which is true, God could create materials and systems out of your knowledge which could make the horse possible to fly. Who could have known a heavy helicopter body could fly with the idea or inspiration from God? There could be a possible way that a horse could fly.

  188. on 20 Mar 2013 at 4:14 pm 188.DPK said …

    Look… if superman can fly, why not a horse?
    Makes sense to me.

  189. on 20 Mar 2013 at 5:23 pm 189.s0l0m0n said …

    Xcanthean Zeno,

    How could a horse possibly fly. Think about the gravity of heavenly bodies. A weightless invincible force that could hold other heavenly bodies.So…it doesn’t need a mass to produce an unimaginable amount of power.

    Now take your bluffs somewhere else.

  190. on 20 Mar 2013 at 9:32 pm 190.alex said …

    “Now take your bluffs somewhere else.”

    the irony is wasted on the sheep herder.

    s0l = nongratisCount#10
    mess = nongratisCount#15

    and s0l makes a move for more stupid…

  191. on 21 Mar 2013 at 1:30 am 191.s0l0m0n said …

    “and s0l makes a move for more stupid…”

    alex….don’t just know how to rant “stupid”.

    Join the debate regarding the possibility a horse could fly and point out which part is stupid.If you can’t, it’s quite clear that it’s you who is stupid.

  192. on 21 Mar 2013 at 1:50 am 192.s0l0m0n said …

    Xcanthean Zeno,

    Have you ever heard of the word “ratio”?

    Only by ratio comparison, we could predict the possibility of a flying horse. Compare the horse with one flying animal, the eagle for example.Imagine a horse the weight of an eagles body and wings proportionate to an eagles wing.Then multiply the horse to the size of a normal horse.By ratio the horse wings will also multiply in size.From this reasoning if an eagle could fly so does the horse.

    It’s that simple.

  193. on 21 Mar 2013 at 2:11 am 193.alex said …

    s0l = nongratisCount#11
    mess = nongratisCount#15

    s0l is definitely making a stupid move on mess. he’s got the horse. and the girlfriend sheep.

  194. on 21 Mar 2013 at 2:51 am 194.The messenger said …

    on 20 Mar 2013 at 2:47 am 179.The messenger said …
    Brother Alex, God loves all people equally. He does not favor anyone over anyone else, we are all equal under him.
    Suffering occurs in our lives as a test to teach us to keep our moral values even in the face of danger or pain of anykind. If we succeed in staying kind, compassionate, loving, and forgiving people durring our time on Earth, we will go to heaven as soon as we die. But if we live greedy, prideful, hateful, or jealous lives, then we will spend some time in hell until we are sent to purgatory to receive another chance to be good people.
    God experiences more pain than we can possibly imagin, and he does it all for us., because he loves us. He died so that we could go to heaven.
    Alex you are very ungrateful.

  195. on 21 Mar 2013 at 2:58 am 195.The messenger said …

    192.alex and DPK are tied for this years pointless comment awards.

  196. on 21 Mar 2013 at 3:11 am 196.s0l0m0n said …

    alex’s vocabulary…

    1. non gratis
    2. sheep

  197. on 21 Mar 2013 at 5:21 am 197.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    Er mah gewd…
    s0l is insane…purely insane

  198. on 21 Mar 2013 at 10:02 am 198.alex said …

    “s0l is insane…purely insane”

    no he aint. just attention grab, hey looky me, i so crazy. i say shit to fuck with people.

  199. on 21 Mar 2013 at 10:43 am 199.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    nope, insane, completely insane.
    a person who ignores all evidence, physics and biology, but instead looks up to god.
    IS INSANITY

  200. on 21 Mar 2013 at 12:57 pm 200.s0l0m0n said …

    Xcanthean Zeno,

    “a person who ignores all evidence, physics and biology, but instead looks up to god.”

    I did’nt ignore physics nor biology. Physics or biology is just a process or laws of God governing the essence of happenings or phenomenons.

    It’s you that is ((((INSANE)))) thinking that your own existence is not a product of creation which undergoes physical or biological process controlled by God.

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