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Christianity Thomas on 23 Feb 2013 12:32 am

Dan Fink states that God is imaginary

Great editorial by Dan Fink in which he admits that God is imaginary:

Fink: God is not so easily explained

How does he admit that God is imaginary? By admitting that the Bible is a book of myth:

The philosopher Paul Ricoeur suggests that there are three stages in a progressive approach to faith and holy texts. First we believe on a literal level. Then, as we learn more about science and history, our sacred “myths” are broken. But later still, as we reach maturity, we can once again embrace our traditions’ stories – precisely as myths, which define and bring beauty to our world. As Ricoeur puts it, “Beyond the desert of criticism, we wish to be called again.”

If the Bible is myth then God is imaginary. Then Fink goes one step further and invents his own god:

Neither the fire and brimstone fundamentalists nor the strident atheists believe in my God, who is the source of both science and the spirit. She is a lot more complicated and ambiguous than many would like. She does not speak in one voice or language. What she asks of me is not always clear. My calling, as a person of progressive faith, is to learn and live this.

What form of insanity is this? The reason why “what she asks of me is not always clear” is because it is the sound of insanity.

204 Responses to “Dan Fink states that God is imaginary”

  1. on 23 Feb 2013 at 1:15 pm 1.alex said …

    it’s da fear man. as more and more of the bullshit is exposed, the morons make up new shit. the very real possibility of the finality of death is just unacceptable. it’s a greed thing. the privilege of life is not enough. they want eternal existance.

  2. on 23 Feb 2013 at 4:15 pm 2.s0l0m0n said …

    alex….is the followers of ((((SATAN)))).

  3. on 23 Feb 2013 at 4:20 pm 3.s0l0m0n said …

    A lot of things originates from imagination which later becomes real.A fully constructed building which originates from an architects imagination for example.

  4. on 23 Feb 2013 at 4:32 pm 4.The messenger said …

    The bible is not a myth.

  5. on 23 Feb 2013 at 4:41 pm 5.alex said …

    preemptive->s0l->nongratis

  6. on 23 Feb 2013 at 6:43 pm 6.The messenger said …

    on 23 Feb 2013 at 4:51 pm 50.The messenger said … Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    on 23 Feb 2013 at 4:50 pm 49.The messenger said … Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    48.Lou (DFW), we have provided proof of God.
    Now we demand that you answer our questions.
    NOW!!!!!!!!!!

  7. on 24 Feb 2013 at 1:17 am 7.s0l0m0n said …

    To ((((HELL)))) with your non gratis.
    alex…is the followers of ((((SATAN))))

  8. on 24 Feb 2013 at 3:20 am 8.alex said …

    I follow the pussy. s0l, the nongratis follows the sheep.

  9. on 24 Feb 2013 at 4:12 am 9.s0l0m0n said …

    To ((((HELL)))) with your non gratis.
    alex…is the followers of ((((SATAN’S PUSSY))))
    Whaaaaa…..ka….ka….ka…..

  10. on 24 Feb 2013 at 8:52 am 10.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    I wonder when people will believe that souls dont exist…

  11. on 24 Feb 2013 at 1:47 pm 11.s0l0m0n said …

    If souls don’t exists, you might not be talking right now.

  12. on 24 Feb 2013 at 1:50 pm 12.alex said …

    which hell am i going? the generic hell? the muslim hell? the xtian hell? or the venus hell?

    s0l is going to sheep hell, where the sheep have no holes.

  13. on 24 Feb 2013 at 4:08 pm 13.The messenger said …

    Brother 11.alex, there are two kinds of hell.

    The literal place that is called hell.

    Reading your comments is another kind of hell.

  14. on 24 Feb 2013 at 5:14 pm 14.DPK said …

    11.s0l0m0n said …
    “If souls don’t exists, you might not be talking right now.”

    If the magical sea turtle that farted the universe into existence didn’t exist you DEFINITELY wouldn’t be here right now, so why do you continue to deny his existence? Your destiny is [[[Sea Turlte HELL]]]
    for this eternities and the next.

    yuk, yuk, yuk…………… no sheep for you in sea turtles [[[HELL]]] You must spend eternity try to fuck burning water… such is your fate.

  15. on 24 Feb 2013 at 5:21 pm 15.alex said …

    “two kinds of hell…”

    says the self professed, nonconforming, makeupownshit, ignorant, head motherfucking self appointed catholic representative.

    “i am the one true xtian. listen to me, you bitches”. every moron, thinks they’re the shits.

  16. on 24 Feb 2013 at 5:34 pm 16.The messenger said …

    Brother 15.alex, your inane comment are pointless and hateful.

    I pitty you.

  17. on 24 Feb 2013 at 7:21 pm 17.Martin said …

    “If the Bible is myth then God is imaginary”

    Again, fallacious reasoning by Thomas. Let us assume for arguments sake the Bible is myth.

    A. The Bible is myth
    B. The Bible must be true in order for God to be real
    C. God is myth

    (A) is assumed and unproven. (B) is not a dependent statement of (A). If the Bible is myth (C) does not necessarily follow. Therefore the entire argument is fallacious.

  18. on 24 Feb 2013 at 8:02 pm 18.alex said …

    Nice, technical analysis. still no god proof.

  19. on 24 Feb 2013 at 8:05 pm 19.Lou (DFW) said …

    16.ASS/MitchMartin said …

    “A) is assumed and unproven. (B) is not a dependent statement of (A). If the Bible is myth (C) does not necessarily follow. Therefore the entire argument is fallacious.”

    First of all, nowhere does “Thomas” claim “B. The Bible must be true in order for God to be real.”

    Nest, let’s assume that “entire argument is fallacious.” So what if it is? Would it any way validate the idea that your imaginary god is real?

    Last, if the Bible is a myth, then, by definition, C. the GOD OF THE BIBLE must be a myth, because the Bible is, by definition, the WORD OF GOD.

  20. on 24 Feb 2013 at 8:09 pm 20.alex said …

    Btw, the talking ass is a myth. Doesnt that make the bible a myth?

  21. on 24 Feb 2013 at 8:52 pm 21.DPK said …

    1″6.Martin said …
    Again, fallacious reasoning by Thomas. Let us assume for arguments sake the Bible is myth.

    “A. The Bible is myth,”

    Agreed. At least this demonstrates that you are not completely inane. It is obvious to any sane person that the bible stories are myths and fables.

    “B. The Bible must be true in order for God to be real.”

    I think it is safe to assume, that since Thomas is talking specifically about the Bible, he is therefore talking specifically about the biblical God of the Bible. Not about Zeus or Elohim, or Mambo the volcano god. For you to argue otherwise seems to be splitting hairs. Certainly no one of average intelligence would assume that since we are talking about the bible, that we are talking about some OTHER god.

    “C. God is myth.”
    Yes, if the bible is a myth, then the god described in the bible is also a myth.

    That is true unless you are talking about a different god. Which god do YOU claim is not a myth?

  22. on 24 Feb 2013 at 11:04 pm 22.The messenger said …

    on 24 Feb 2013 at 5:34 pm 16.The messenger said …
    Brother 15.alex, your inane comment are pointless and hateful.
    I pitty you.

  23. on 25 Feb 2013 at 1:10 am 23.alex said …

    messenger, you are now, non gratis #2. now go join your brother s0l and go find some sheep.

    asshole, trolling an atheist site.

  24. on 25 Feb 2013 at 1:37 am 24.Curmudgeon said …

    Martin,

    Take any thread here posted by Thomas or jump over to God is imaginary. More fallacies and more misinformation.

    Atheists one minute claim you cannot prove a negative OR that they have nothing to defend yet they continue to open mouth and insert foot,

  25. on 25 Feb 2013 at 5:05 am 25.DPK said …

    “Atheists one minute claim you cannot prove a negative OR that they have nothing to defend yet they continue to open mouth and insert foot,”

    And even if that we’re completely true, how does that in any way demonstrate that your pretend god exists? It doesn’t. So, do you have a point?

  26. on 25 Feb 2013 at 9:26 am 26.s0l0m0n said …

    Atheists…..how could you account for the existence of everything except god?

  27. on 25 Feb 2013 at 10:49 am 27.alex said …

    whoop! whoop! non gratis alert. s0l, go sheep.

  28. on 25 Feb 2013 at 11:43 am 28.s0l0m0n said …

    To ((((HELL)))) with your non gratis.
    To ((((HELL)))) with your go sheep.
    alex…is the followers of ((((SATAN))))

    alex rantings have no quality at all.

  29. on 25 Feb 2013 at 11:44 am 29.s0l0m0n said …

    Now answer this!!

    Atheists…..how could you account for the existence of everything except god?

  30. on 25 Feb 2013 at 1:29 pm 30.Lou(DFW) said …

    29.s0l0m0n said …

    “Now answer this!!”

    Until you admit in which imaginary god you believe and which delusional religion you follow, then you are a “persona non gratis.”

    Your demands and “rantings have no quality at all.”

  31. on 25 Feb 2013 at 1:31 pm 31.Lou(DFW) said …

    24.Crum said …

    “Atheists one minute claim you cannot prove a negative OR that they have nothing to defend yet they continue to open mouth and insert foot.”

    Every minute theists claim that there is a god, but during no minutes do they ever provide evidence for it.

  32. on 25 Feb 2013 at 1:55 pm 32.DPK said …

    on 25 Feb 2013 at 11:44 am 29.s0l0m0n said …
    Now answer this!!
    Atheists…..how could you account for the existence of everything except god?

    I’ve told you many times. Inter dimensional sea turtle.
    Accounts for everything. No god needed.
    You are a fool. You cannot debate sea turtle. You have no answer except that your od is make believe and you will spend eternity in hell for worshiping false gods.

  33. on 25 Feb 2013 at 2:28 pm 33.DPK said …

    Solomon, when you finally understand why you reject my sea turtle story out of hand and without a second thought, then you will understand why we reject your magical god story.
    Trying to teach you something here. Hopefully you will “get it” and stop with your inane rambelings.

  34. on 28 Feb 2013 at 12:29 pm 34.Anonymous said …

    Brother DPK, I the world turtle belief is nonsence and is not stated anywhere in christianity.

  35. on 28 Feb 2013 at 12:30 pm 35.The messenger said …

    comment 34 is my comment. I forgot to add in my info into the text boxes.

  36. on 28 Feb 2013 at 5:46 pm 36.DPK said …

    “34.Anonymous said …

    Brother DPK, I the world turtle belief is nonsence and is not stated anywhere in christianity.”

    No, you are wrong. Christianity is a false religion. The turtle is real. On what basis do you dismiss it as “nonsence” [sic]? I say Christianity is nonsense. It is not mentioned anywhere in turtledom.

  37. on 28 Feb 2013 at 10:34 pm 37.alex said …

    Thank you allah, for bringing back the blog.

  38. on 28 Feb 2013 at 11:08 pm 38.Matthew Delemos said …

    Zeus, Give me Strength!

  39. on 28 Feb 2013 at 11:52 pm 39.DPK said …

    Heresy! The turtle brought back the blog. Allah is a myth. He is mentioned nowhere in turtledom.

  40. on 01 Mar 2013 at 1:02 am 40.s0l0m0n said …

    Atheists!!! Just answer this simple question!!

    Atheists…..how could you account for the existence of everything except god?

    They will not be able to answer…They WILL NOT.

    Whaaaa….ka…ka…ka…..

    Case closed.

  41. on 01 Mar 2013 at 1:05 am 41.s0l0m0n said …

    alex,

    “Thank you allah, for bringing back the blog.”

    At least you are thankful to a God.But I doubt you are sincere.

  42. on 01 Mar 2013 at 1:45 am 42.alex said …

    back to your nongratis, you sheep lover you….

  43. on 01 Mar 2013 at 3:19 am 43.DPK said …

    on 01 Mar 2013 at 1:02 am 40.s0l0m0n said …
    Atheists!!! Just answer this simple question!!
    Atheists…..how could you account for the existence of everything except god?
    They will not be able to answer…They WILL NOT.
    Whaaaa….ka…ka…ka…..
    Case closed.

    Sea turtle. Case open. Prove me wrong.

  44. on 01 Mar 2013 at 6:48 am 44.s0l0m0n said …

    Sea turtle.
    What a ((((BULLSHIT))))

    Just ((((SHUT UP)))) & then answer….

    Atheists…..how could you account for the existence of everything except god?

  45. on 01 Mar 2013 at 6:49 am 45.s0l0m0n said …

    alex vocabulary is only limited to “non gratis”.
    What a shame…

  46. on 01 Mar 2013 at 10:27 am 46.MrQ said …

    Idiots!!

    It’s FSM. May his noodly appendages smack all of you upside the heads – Pastafarianism is the way and the light.
    Allah, Turtles, jesus…pfffft….What bullshit!!!
    Oh, and prove me wrong, Sol.
    As for your main man, the Allah….just the fevered imaginations of some camel jockeys. (((CASE CLOSED)))

  47. on 01 Mar 2013 at 12:42 pm 47.freddies_dead said …

    44.s0l0m0n said …

    Sea turtle.
    What a ((((BULLSHIT))))

    How so?

    Just ((((SHUT UP)))) & then answer….

    So which one do you want DPK to do? Shut up? Or answer? You seem very confused.

    Atheists…..how could you account for the existence of everything except god?

    DPK gave you an account. Why are you so frightened of dealing with his claim?

  48. on 01 Mar 2013 at 1:13 pm 48.DPK said …

    I have presented as much evidence for the sea turtle theory as you have for your god theory. Therefore it is every bit as valid an idea as yours.
    I declare your uncreated god a bullshit.
    Your rules Solomon. If you don’t have to prove your god, I don’t have to prove my turtle.

  49. on 01 Mar 2013 at 2:19 pm 49.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    DERKA DERKA JUST GOT OWNED

  50. on 01 Mar 2013 at 4:27 pm 50.DPK said …

    Solomon, what you MUST understand that if you truly, wholeheartedly, and without a doubt believe in the seaturtle, then the reality of his existence will become very obvious to you, and you will not require any proof that he is real, because you WILL believe it.

    If you do not believe in his reality, then you will doubt his existence. This is sad.

    However, the seaturtle is not a mean and jealous creature like you magical god. He will not cast you onto the reef of eternal torment simply for not believing in him. Actually, he’s kind of chill. So, she is like… “Whatever dude. It’s cool.”

    I hope that you find your way to the reality of turtledom and put away your {{{bullshits}}} god.

    Unless, of course, you have any actual EVIDENCE that any of what I say is NOT true, and your story IS.

  51. on 01 Mar 2013 at 4:58 pm 51.s0l0m0n said …

    All you atheists just shut up with your ((((BULLSHIT)))) and then start answering!!!!

    Atheists…..how could you account for the existence of everything except god????

  52. on 01 Mar 2013 at 5:00 pm 52.s0l0m0n said …

    Whaaaaa….ka….ka…ka….

    ((((I WIN))))

    1 – nil

  53. on 01 Mar 2013 at 6:25 pm 53.CastBound said …

    What DPK has proven is that he has the emotional and intellectual capacity of a 10 yr old.

    #dontfeedthetroll

  54. on 01 Mar 2013 at 6:51 pm 54.DPK said …

    “What DPK has proven is that he has the emotional and intellectual capacity of a 10 yr old.”

    Why is that? Because I present a ridiculous story with absolutely no evidence to support it and claim that it is true and you must either accept it or at the very least, respect it?

    Why is my claim any less valid than Solomon’s? You can call me a 10 year old, but that doesn;t answer the question, does it Castbound?

    I can call you intellectually and emotionally inferior for not accepting the seaturtle claim with every bit as much validity as you have shown.

    Now, if you disagree, please explain why YOUR version of reality is any more valid than mine…

  55. on 01 Mar 2013 at 7:22 pm 55.s0l0m0n said …

    Bravo…CastBound!! Bravo…!!!

    DPK is either brain dead or insane.

  56. on 01 Mar 2013 at 8:12 pm 56.DPK said …

    “Atheists…..how could you account for the existence of everything except god?”

    Here is the thing. This is not the “where did the universe come from” discussion board. This is the “god and religion” discussion. I don’t have to account for the existence of everything. If you, on the otherhand, are claiming that some god created everything and that is proof of his existence, then you have to give us some reason to believe that this in fact happened, and that it was in fact, YOUR god that caused it. The fact that you are not bright enough to imagine any other possible scenario is not evidence. Without evidence, your claim is equal to any other claim presented without evidence either. It is worthless and meaningless.
    As I have said before, once you come the the realization of why any of you reject my seaturtle creation story out of hand, THEN you will understand WHY we reject your magical god creation story as well. They are of equal merit. ZERO.

  57. on 01 Mar 2013 at 9:22 pm 57.DPK said …

    Does anyone else see the irony that they reject my claim of a magical inter dimensional sea turtle that farted the universe into existence as a ridiculous concept worthy of a 10 year old, while at the exact same time demand that we accept their claim of a magical transcendent warrior god who took six days to create the universe, made man out of dust and woman out of a rib, and then needed a day off because he was tired and needed to rest?
    Hmmmm.

  58. on 01 Mar 2013 at 9:23 pm 58.CastBound said …

    DPK,

    Just the fact that you seriously equate God with your adolescent imagination solidifies the fact you have the intellectual capacity of a 10 year old. It’s not a slight, just an observation.

    I suggest you educate yourself to a point where you can handle some scholarly research and study.

  59. on 01 Mar 2013 at 10:13 pm 59.MrQ said …

    Castbound, welcome back.
    Are you still investigating why you should embrace atheism?
    Shall we investigate why you should remain a xtian? The rice cracker is still in play….

    http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=2377#comments
    Your posts begin @ about #102….Let’s try and finish the conversation.

  60. on 01 Mar 2013 at 10:24 pm 60.DPK said …

    “58.CastBound said …
    DPK,
    Just the fact that you seriously equate God with your adolescent imagination solidifies the fact you have the intellectual capacity of a 10 year old…”

    while offering nothing of substance what so ever.
    The fact that you think the belief in a magical sky daddy requires some level of high intellectual capacity is laughable. An academic discussion of theology is as valid as an academic discussion of astrology. Until you provide some reason to show us that your belief in your magical creator god is founded on anything more than my belief in magical sea turtles, your indignation rings very hallow.

    Next?

  61. on 01 Mar 2013 at 10:29 pm 61.Anonymous said …

    Oh, yes, the retorts from the theists stink of irony and diversions.

    Right now, they cling to the arguments of “you can’t disprove my god” and “you can’t account for…”.

    They can’t prove their god, so to prevent facing that they keep their claim alive by trying to get everyone else to prove them wrong. Of course, to do so they wrap their god up in unfalsifiable and untestable claims then reverse the burden of proof.

    If they are true believers (as opposed to trolls) then they probably think its self-evident that their god exists, but that everyone else made theirs up. DPK’s turtle is a great example of the double-standard the theist exhibits when faced with a competing claim.

    As for CastBound; it doesn’t matter which identity he posts under, all he’s doing is throwing out insults, taunt and diversions. Again, ironic that he’d attack DPK as he did considering that CastBound’s behavior is what we see of 10 year olds in the playground.

  62. on 01 Mar 2013 at 10:32 pm 62.CastBound said …

    Next would be for you to begin your education. I cannot carry on a conversation about weighty topics with someone who has the intellectual capacity of a 10 year old.

    Since you are fascinated with this turtle, try your local Jr High to find some who may be willing to carry on this discussion with you. Better yet, do seek a fuller education.

  63. on 01 Mar 2013 at 11:03 pm 63.alex said …

    “Next would be for you to begin your education. I cannot carry on a conversation about weighty topics with someone who has the intellectual capacity of a 10 year old.”

    you pompous shit. spit out some of your favorite weighty biblical passages and we’ll discuss. but you won’t because you know that every single biblical shit you chose will end up as standup joke fodder. go ahead, post your topics.

    you mock the turtle, but yet you worship the penis foreskin obsessed god? the laughable ark? talking snake? and on.. and on.. and fucking on…

    oh, i forgot the nongratis. s0l, go fuck your sheep.

  64. on 02 Mar 2013 at 12:03 am 64.DPK said …

    Again mr crutch bound, your indignation at my not offering your delusion the level of respect you think it deserves above everyone else’s delusion is hollow and empty.
    You claim a “weighty topic”, but the reality is, your magical warrior god carries no more intellectual weight than my magic turtle. That is, unless you give it some, which clearly you cannot do.
    I can imagine the ancient Greeks also having “weighty” intellectual discussions about the characteristics and qualities of their completely imaginary gods as well.
    Spare us your pompous indignation. You get no intellectual “pass” here based simply on your demand that we respect your delusions.
    Put up or shut up. Until you do, you are just a fraud with a big ego and a bigger mouth.

  65. on 02 Mar 2013 at 12:27 am 65.the messenger said …

    Madame Alexandra, Jesus is not obsessed with foreskin.

    The only time that foreskin is written about in the bible when king Saul sent David to attack some enemies
    of Israel. As proof of David’d victory, Saul told David to bring him the foreskin of all the dead enemy solders. Saul’s plan was for David to die in battle, but God protected David and his men.

  66. on 02 Mar 2013 at 12:32 am 66.s0l0m0n said …

    alex….you just ((((SHUT UP))))!!!!
    Your vocabulary is only limited to non gratis remember.Or if you still want to open your mouth just answer this…

    Atheists…..how could you account for the existence of everything except god?

  67. on 02 Mar 2013 at 12:44 am 67.s0l0m0n said …

    My question is…

    Atheists…..how could you account for the existence of everything except god?

    Then the atheists quickly come out with the answer…

    SEA TURTLE….??????

    And may I know which sea turtle of the few billions??

    Whaaaa……ka…ka…ka…

  68. on 02 Mar 2013 at 12:47 am 68.s0l0m0n said …

    The atheists are just ((((PLAIN STUPID))))

    Whaaaa….ka…ka…ka….

  69. on 02 Mar 2013 at 3:28 am 69.MrQ said …

    Sol,
    I imagine they’ll just answer with something completely asinine like “The only sea turtle that is equivalent of nothing, duh”
    Pastafarianism is the only legit answer when the question is: What is the one and only true religion?
    (((CHECKMATE)))

  70. on 02 Mar 2013 at 3:52 am 70.alex said …

    atheists, shields up. bullshit storm warning, nongratis, straight ahead.

    s0l-> the lord is my sheep->hard.

  71. on 02 Mar 2013 at 4:44 am 71.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    S0l0m0n said

    “And may I know which sea turtle of the few billions??”

    isnt it obvious?, it is the invisible,magic,all powerful,all knowing, turtle that cannot be proven to be real nor false

  72. on 02 Mar 2013 at 4:53 am 72.DPK said …

    SEA TURTLE….??????
    And may I know which sea turtle of the few billions??

    It the one who created the universe when he farted. Actually, the fart created space, all the matter in the universe was the shart that was mixed in.

    How dumb are you? Did you think the universe was created by one other sea turtle who was NOT the creator of the universe?

    Which of the thousands of gods do YOU think created the universe? And how do you KNOW I am wrong?
    Wh do you mock the turtle? He loves you. Unlike your nasty god, turtle will not send you to eternal torment if you don’t believe in him. He really doesn’t give a shit if you believe in him or not. Why would he?

  73. on 02 Mar 2013 at 5:06 am 73.DPK said …

    Xcan,
    The turtle is not magic, or invisible ( although he lives in another dimension so WE can’t see him, but his turtle buddies can. He isn’t all powerful and he doesn’t care who you sleep with, what you eat, or any of hat “god”shit.
    He created the universe by accident when he thought he was gonna fart, but actually sharted. Simple as that.

    Notice Solomon has not presented one shred of evidence or one logical argument to disprove the turtle and the “Big Fart” theory of everything. He’s got nothing.

    Yuk, yuk, yuk. Probably the sheep syphilis has rotted his brain.

  74. on 02 Mar 2013 at 5:16 am 74.alex said …

    pray to the turtle and ye shell receive? cept s0l, all he get is fleece on his shorts or his turban.

  75. on 02 Mar 2013 at 7:03 am 75.s0l0m0n said …

    It’s crystal clear that the atheists are ((((STUPID)))) and it’s of no point talking to the future inhabitants of ((((HELL)))).

    ))))HELL(((( is a just place for them.

  76. on 02 Mar 2013 at 5:05 pm 76.s0l0m0n said …

    “Which of the thousands of gods do YOU think created the universe?”

    Despite the sea turtles there’s only one true god created the universe.

  77. on 03 Mar 2013 at 3:01 am 77.DPK said …

    Nope. Despite your delusions of magical gods conjuring universes out of nothing, the turtle did it. There is no debate. As I predicted, you have nothing. No argument, no evidence to the contrary.
    Case closed.

  78. on 03 Mar 2013 at 4:17 am 78.s0l0m0n said …

    As expected.
    The atheists have no decent arguments to bring forth.
    It’s better talking to a wall.

  79. on 03 Mar 2013 at 6:24 am 79.mel said …

    hi there! I am really enjoying your webpage,as I woke up from my 15 year Christian coma, just over a week ago!! The more I searched the truth,the more BS I discovered, and I now feel ‘free’! The chains are lifted, I feel empowered. Now I have to convince people of our folly instead of trying to convert them! hehe It happened when after much searching and confusion I decided to go to ‘the horses mouth’ so to speak – the Jewish people, to shed light on why they didnt believe Jesus to be the Messiah! When they quoted from our very own ‘old testament, it showed the inconsistencies and confirmed the pagan/horus stories I’d previously refuted! I could go on, but that’s is where my fantasy belief started to unravel!

  80. on 03 Mar 2013 at 2:46 pm 80.DPK said …

    As expected.
    The atheists have no decent arguments to bring forth.
    It’s better talking to a wall.

    So, are you saying you do not accept the sea turtle explanation for the creation of the universe simply because I have not provided any evidence or “decent arguments” to support it? Is that it, Solomon?

  81. on 03 Mar 2013 at 6:58 pm 81.CastBound said …

    “So, are you saying you do not accept the sea turtle explanation for the creation of the universe simply because I have not provided any evidence or “decent arguments””

    I would like to offer if I may. It’s because you are a juvenile who cannot discuss metaphysical truths with the adults. But I will give you just a little credit. At least now you make more sense than when you were an atheist.

  82. on 03 Mar 2013 at 9:01 pm 82.DPK said …

    Hahaha
    So, Crutchbound now admits that a person who believes that an inter dimensional sea turtle farted the entire universe into existence “makes more sense” than a person who thinks there is most likely a non magical explanation, even if it is not fully understood.

    Well, thanks for that. That certainly puts it into perspective… hahaha… best laugh I’ve had all week.

    Now, what exactly are the metaphysical “truths” you just claimed exist? And while you are providing your evidence for them, please clarify why you think your imaginary god qualifies as a “metaphysical truth” but my imaginary turtle does not? This should be interesting.

  83. on 03 Mar 2013 at 9:49 pm 83.the messenger said …

    Madame Alexandra, Jesus is not obsessed with foreskin.
    The only time that foreskin is written about in the bible when king Saul sent David to attack some enemies
    of Israel. As proof of David’d victory, Saul told David to bring him the foreskin of all the dead enemy solders. Saul’s plan was for David to die in battle, but God protected David and his men. ,

  84. on 03 Mar 2013 at 11:53 pm 84.DPK said …

    And speaking of metaphysical truths, I found this list on a website that contains 10 undeniable metaphysical truths that are really hard to disagree with.
    I thought I’d share.
    Source :
    http://hinessight.blogs.com/church_of_the_churchless/2008/08/ten-undeniable.html

    (1) Nobody on Earth knows what happens after death. Why? Because if you’re still alive on this planet, you aren’t dead yet. My logic is impeccable. Near death or mystical experiences don’t count as pointers toward a possible afterlife, because they’re experienced in this life.

    (2) There’s no solid proof for God or any other unearthly divinity. If there was, religious skeptics wouldn’t have a doubting leg to stand on. Everybody would believe. Plus, whatever religion preached the gospel that matched the proof would overwhelm competing faiths lacking the support of that evidence.

    (3) No religion has more validity than any other. This follows from (2). Given that there’s no evidence of God, in the sense of a personal (or even impersonal) entity that consciously creates and/or sustains the physical universe, every religion rests on the same foundation: the shifting sand of human speculation.

    (4) Miraculous powers are possessed by no one. Ever since cameras and other forms of objective documentation came into existence, miracles have taken a decided downturn. Jesus supposedly walked on water a couple of thousand years ago, but there’s no scientifically defensible proof of a major (or even minor) miracle since. Likely reason: nobody can perform one.

    (5) Mystical, religious, or spiritual experiences never can be corroborated. Claims abound of people who have seen God, angels, beings of light, or whatever; who have experienced enlightenment, satori, Buddha nature, or whatever; who have risen to heaven, astral planes, paradise, oneness, whatever. Fine. Good for them. Nobody can know whether this is fact or fantasy.

    (6) Physical proof of a metaphysical reality belies the truth claim. This relates to (5). Any sort of metaphysical evidence that can be perceived by the bodily senses obviously is physical. So unless it falls in the realm of the miraculous, ruled out by (4), such evidence can be explained by the material laws of nature.

    (7) Consciousness or awareness doesn’t count as a divine revelation. Devotees of certain “Eastern” faiths, such as Vedanta or Zen Buddhism, basically look upon a higher state of consciousness – or pure awareness – as a manifestation of foundational reality. That may be. But a crystal clear mentality still is rooted in materiality, the physical brain, not metaphysics.

    (8) If God is ineffable, a mystery, anyone who speaks about divinity is spouting falsehoods. More simply put, this truth says “If you know God, why the hell are you blabbing about him (or her)?” Prophets, mystics, saints, gurus, yogis, and so on often claim that God is beyond words. Then they blab on and on about this. What gives?

    (9) Absolute unity doesn’t permit anyone to know about it. Often ultimate reality, personal (God) or otherwise (the One), is considered to be an unbroken wholeness. Well, if there’s (a) absolute unity and (b) someone aware of it, we’ve got two things. So consciousness of oneness belies the claim that such exists, in a sense similar to (6).

    (10) Reality is marvelously beyond our understanding, just as we know it. My proof: I’m down to my last sip of wine, sitting outside on our deck on a warm Oregon summer night, watching a crescent moon through the branches of a three hundred year old oak tree, little me being part of a 14 billion year old universe whose beginning and end almost certainly will forever remain beyond the reach of human cognition.

    Which means…the mysteries of this physical realm are plenty enough to grapple with. Who needs imaginary metaphysical enigmas?

  85. on 04 Mar 2013 at 1:15 am 85.s0l0m0n said …

    DPK,

    “So, are you saying you do not accept the sea turtle explanation for the creation of the universe simply because I have not provided any evidence or “decent arguments” to support it? Is that it, Solomon?”

    As CastBound put it you have the intellectual capacity of a 10 year old.But I think you are worst than that. I’ve said I’d better talk to a wall.

    I won’t entertain you if you behave like this.

  86. on 04 Mar 2013 at 1:00 pm 86.Anonymous said …

    So, are you saying you do not accept the sea turtle explanation for the creation of the universe simply because I have not provided any evidence or “decent arguments” to support it? Is that it, Solomon?

    Solomon, this is a perfectly reasonable question. You’re the one acting like a 10 year old if you continue to avoid it. Why don’t you accept the sea turtle explanation?

    Now, what exactly are the metaphysical “truths” you just claimed exist? And while you are providing your evidence for them, please clarify why you think your imaginary god qualifies as a “metaphysical truth” but my imaginary turtle does not?

    CastBound, you introduced this topic, please do give us a list of these “truths”.

  87. on 04 Mar 2013 at 1:19 pm 87.MrQ said …

    CastBound, you introduced this topic, please do give us a list of these “truths”.

    Alert…Alert….Dead thread ahead.

  88. on 04 Mar 2013 at 3:55 pm 88.DPK said …

    “As CastBound put it you have the intellectual capacity of a 10 year old.But I think you are worst than that. I’ve said I’d better talk to a wall.
    I won’t entertain you if you behave like this.”

    As I thought. You have no good answer, so you deflect in order to protect your delusion from the light of reality.

    You call ME immature? YOU are the one who believes you have an invisible man who lives in the sky who is your friend and will reward you with eternal life in a magical kingdom after you die.

    Which one of us has the mental capacity of a 10 year old? Quit playing the persecution card. Your crazy ass beliefs warrant no more respect that my crazy ass beliefs until you provide evidence that they are in any way true, or in any way more valid that ANY other unsubstantiated claim.

    Now, run away and refuse to answer. Your bullshit is so transparent even someone with my 10 year old mental capacity can see you for what you are… an emperor with no clothes.

  89. on 05 Mar 2013 at 12:07 am 89.Suh said …

    “YOU are the one who believes you have an invisible man who lives in the sky who is your friend and will reward you with eternal life in a magical kingdom after you die.”

    Well, God is not a man. God is a deity. His kingdom is not magical, it is eternal.

    You believe in a turtle. I watched the teenage mutant ninja turtles but I knew it was a cartoon. I would say the one who is crazy is quite self-evident.

    Its the one named DPK.
    Delusional
    Pernicious
    Krazy

  90. on 05 Mar 2013 at 12:18 am 90.alex said …

    suh, you’re an idiot. the turtle is readily admitted as a tongue-in-check, bullshit, delusional belief and exactly like your god. but you are too dense to see the shit. the turtle arguments are exactly like your god premises, but you don’t get it, you stupid fuck.

    you morons are too stoopid. go hang out with s0l. he’s got some spare sheep you can play with.

    the turtle is bullshit, just like your bullshit god. now, be a good atheist and cry when you go to a funeral.

  91. on 05 Mar 2013 at 1:11 am 91.s0l0m0n said …

    alex…..you just (((((SHUT UP)))) and then just mumble the word ((((NON GRATIS)))).

  92. on 05 Mar 2013 at 1:12 am 92.s0l0m0n said …

    Bravo!!! Suh…..Bravo!!!

  93. on 05 Mar 2013 at 1:15 am 93.s0l0m0n said …

    Atheists just create the sea turtle with nothing to back up its concept, just to deny the God concept.

  94. on 05 Mar 2013 at 1:40 am 94.Anonymous said …

    Solomon boxes himself into a corner, out comes CastBound to try to change the subject with a personal attack. In doing so, CastBound boxes himself into a corner.

    Solomon returns, not to answer DPK’s question, but to distract attention from CastBound’s predicament with a personal attack on DPK. Solomon fails, and now both Solomon and CastBound are on the hook to answer questions they brought upon themselves.

    Now, Suh appears not to answer any questions but to try again to distract attention from CastBound and Solomon. How does Suh do this? With a personal attack on DPK.

    LOL! And you wonder why it’s so easy to see through your nonsense?

    So, folks, here’s what’s outstanding plus what Suh added:

    Solomon:

    So, are you saying you do not accept the sea turtle explanation for the creation of the universe simply because I have not provided any evidence or “decent arguments” to support it? Is that it, Solomon?

    CastBound:

    Now, what exactly are the metaphysical “truths” you just claimed exist? And while you are providing your evidence for them, please clarify why you think your imaginary god qualifies as a “metaphysical truth” but my imaginary turtle does not?

    Suh:

    Well, God is not a man. God is a deity. His kingdom is not magical, it is eternal

    Suh, that’s rather a staggering claim. Now you can go ahead and prove it.

  95. on 05 Mar 2013 at 2:12 am 95.DPK said …

    “Well, God is not a man. God is a deity. His kingdom is not magical, it is eternal”

    And how is that any different from saying.. “The turtle is not a man, he is not of this physical realm. He resides in a dimension where farts can explode into universes. This is a fact you simply cannot disprove.”

    And Suh… talk about missing the point!!!
    Here’s a little hint for you…. I don’t “really” believe in the sea turtle myth….
    Can you say the same about your fantastical claim?
    Oh…. see you actually DO believe in the invisible, ok, being, in the sky… right?
    See the difference?

  96. on 05 Mar 2013 at 3:27 am 96.Suh said …

    “And Suh… talk about missing the point!!!
    Here’s a little hint for you…. I don’t “really” believe in the sea turtle myth….”

    Gosh! Really DPK? Thanks, and I missed the point. ha ha ha

    “Oh…. see you actually DO believe in the invisible, ok, being, in the sky… right?
    See the difference?”

    Well, no, I believe in a deity known as God! I actually believe in God, you make up fairy tales! ha ha ha Are you sure you are not a ninja turtle follower?

    Actually believing in God and you playing pretend with the ninja turtle dolls is not apples and apples. Since you now admit the ninja turtle is not real, maybe you could find a blog to carry on your argument against it. ha ha ha

    Next up for you. These blogs

    Parallel Universes
    Aliens
    Abiogenesis

    Yes, abiogenesis this blog actually uses this as FACT on one of their links to prove creation and our existence. I wonder if DPK posts relentlessly there asking for proof? I bet he doesn’t.

  97. on 05 Mar 2013 at 3:39 am 97.alex said …

    “Actually believing in God and you playing pretend with the ninja turtle dolls is not apples and apples”

    then spit it out moron. list the differences, wise ass. but you won’t, because your list will be exposed.

    let me see. god is real and the turtle is not. wrong, asshole, they’re both fiction, because both bullshits have no evidence. next?

    who cares about your diversionary other blog references? the focus is on your god, not aliens, not the Prez, not my dog, not, not. just your bullsheeyat god.

  98. on 05 Mar 2013 at 4:58 am 98.DPK said …

    “Gosh! Really DPK? Thanks, and I missed the point. ha ha ha”

    I know you did.

    “Actually believing in God and you playing pretend with the ninja turtle dolls is not apples and apples.”

    Of course it is. They are both claims made without evidence to back them up. If you ever come to grins with the reality of WHY you reject my creation story of the turtle out of hand…. Along with ALL THE OTHER creation myths held throughout human history, then you will understand why we also reject yours. Because it is just as silly as he sea turtle myth and, your righteous indignation not withstanding, it has zero evidence to support it. If you had any, you would simply present it and shut us all the fuck up, instead of endlessly rambling on about biogenesis, creation, and the multiverse. All of that has nothing to do with the fact that, apples to apples, your god has no more standing than my turtle. If you think he does, demonstrate why, or admit you can’t and shut up.

  99. on 05 Mar 2013 at 5:09 am 99.s0l0m0n said …

    alex…..you just (((((SHUT UP)))) and then just mumble the word ((((NON GRATIS)))).

  100. on 05 Mar 2013 at 5:17 am 100.s0l0m0n said …

    Atheists…..how could you account for the existence of everything except god????

    Sea turtle…..

    The atheists are diverting the issue from seriously answering or not able to answer the question.

    Tactics busted.

  101. on 05 Mar 2013 at 5:45 am 101.s0l0m0n said …

    Atheists…..how could you account for the existence of everything except god????

    In order not to recognize that there must be a one true powerful being that is called God for an answer, the atheists rather create one silly name in replacement…the sea turtle.

    The sea turtle is just mere identity replacement. It does not a bit account for the existence of everything except god.

    The atheists are just ((((BULLSHITTING)))).

    Tactics Busted.

  102. on 05 Mar 2013 at 12:07 pm 102.Suh said …

    “If you ever come to grins with the reality of WHY you reject my creation story of the turtle out of hand…. ”

    Come to grins? Is this turtle talk?

    I didn’t reject it, you did. Not even the inventor buys the story. ha ha ha

    Even if you did believe, I really wouldn’t care or argue with you.

    Now, if you can actually carry on a discussion like an adult, someone might actually take you seriously.

  103. on 05 Mar 2013 at 1:03 pm 103.DPK said …

    So, the best you have is to pounce on a typo, and accuse me of not being “adult” enough for you?
    Sadly for you, your attempt at diversion is very transparent. Being childish is avoiding answering a legimate question diverting attention away from it.
    What do you have to offer that makes your claim of your imaginary god more believable than my claim of an imaginary turtle.
    Until you offer that, suh, all your babbling is meaningless and your childish attempts at avoiding an actual adult discussion are embarrassingly transparent.

    What you want is a discussion on your terms, which includes giving a level of validity to your completely unsupported claims. Nope. Show us why anything you say has any more validity than the turtle, besides the fact that you want it to, and then you may regain some credibility. But you won’t. You’ll just continue your pompous posturing and demand everyone else provide “respect” for your silly beliefs, when in reality your claims are exactly on equal footing with the sea turtle myth.

  104. on 05 Mar 2013 at 1:44 pm 104.Anonymous said …

    It’s hard not to notice that not only is Suh writing “out of character”, but the tactic of using personal attacks as a diversion so that someone else can avoid answering questions, has a familiar ring to it.

    So, looking back at some of Suh’s choice phrases what do we find? Yes, copious use of them from Horatio and his sock puppets and pretty much no-one else.

    Sigh. Hor, busted again. Add another sock puppet to the fire.

    Now, why don’t you all stop with the diversions and answer the questions? You can demonstrate why your claims have merit, can’t you? Or rather it seems you can’t.

  105. on 05 Mar 2013 at 2:56 pm 105.s0l0m0n said …

    Just answer this….

    Atheists…..how could you account for the existence of everything except god?

  106. on 05 Mar 2013 at 3:28 pm 106.DPK said …

    Of course he can’t, or he would have. All he can do is name calling. He’s a fraud like the rest of them. They might as well be arguing the validity of tarot card readings. Completely indefensible in any rational way, yet despite that you have scores of deluded people who swear it is valid juju.
    How about you, Suh? You believe in tarot cards?
    Why not?
    Oh, it’s not the “same thing” huh? Because you say so, right?
    Fraud.

    BTW… what happened to the “latest comments” widget?

    This is a pain having to scroll through a 100 posts all the time.

  107. on 05 Mar 2013 at 6:27 pm 107.Suh said …

    I’m babbling? That is rich! You have wasted valuable space post after post about a turtle you no longer believe in. That’s good stuff.

    So do you or don’t you believe in this turtle? You keep bringing bim/her up.

    Yes, I do believe I tarot cards.

  108. on 05 Mar 2013 at 7:51 pm 108.DPK said …

    106.Suh said …
    “Yes, I do believe I tarot cards.”

    The prosecution rests……

  109. on 05 Mar 2013 at 8:30 pm 109.Anonymous said …

    Well, God is not a man. God is a deity. His kingdom is not magical, it is eternal

    Suh. Which god are you referring to? Please name names.

    Second, please show us the proof for your claim: “His kingdom is not magical, it is eternal”

  110. on 05 Mar 2013 at 9:22 pm 110.DPK said …

    “Suh. Which god are you referring to? Please name names.

    Second, please show us the proof for your claim: “His kingdom is not magical, it is eternal”

    He’ll get to it as soon as he consults his tarot cards for an answer.

  111. on 05 Mar 2013 at 10:16 pm 111.Anonymous said …

    Well, whilst Suh is out getting some Tarot cards, perhaps CastBound would grace us with an answer to the question he’s been ducking thus far:

    “Now, what exactly are the metaphysical “truths” you just claimed exist? And while you are providing your evidence for them, please clarify why you think your imaginary god qualifies as a “metaphysical truth” but my imaginary turtle does not?”

  112. on 05 Mar 2013 at 11:48 pm 112.alex said …

    “Yes, I do believe I tarot cards.”

    i’ll bite. tarot cards exist and what exactly do they say that’s different than turtle cards?

  113. on 06 Mar 2013 at 12:42 am 113.Suh said …

    “i’ll bite. tarot cards exist and what exactly do they say that’s different than turtle cards?”

    I have never seen turtle cards so I haven’t the foggiest what they say. Maybe you could share? Then share how one minute you believe in the ninja turtle and the next you do not? Are you bipolar? schizophrenic?

  114. on 06 Mar 2013 at 1:02 am 114.DPK said …

    Suh gives us the perfect example of what happens when you try to be a smart ass, only you aren’t smart.

  115. on 06 Mar 2013 at 1:20 am 115.alex said …

    ok, smart suh. i’m full of shit about everything. now, back to your tarot cards. explain. but you won’t, because you’re worse than full of shit. you believe that your shit smells good and you want everybody else to swallow your shit, yes?

  116. on 06 Mar 2013 at 1:24 am 116.Suh said …

    You keep bringing up turtles, turtle cards and tarot cards as if you have scored some points. You have not because you are not nearly as sharp as you seem to think you are. Yes, I’m a smart ass but it is only so dumb asses like you have someone to look up to.

  117. on 06 Mar 2013 at 1:27 am 117.Suh said …

    “back to your tarot cards”

    What would you like me to explain about tarot cards?

  118. on 06 Mar 2013 at 1:40 am 118.alex said …

    “What would you like me to explain about tarot cards?”

    how about, you fuck yourself with your bullshit tarot cards, bullshit bible, and bullshit god? just wallow, mister self proclaimed smart ass.

    your fishing/trolling expedition is finito.

  119. on 06 Mar 2013 at 2:52 am 119.alex said …

    here’s allah’s gift to you xtians.

    the “recent comments” is broken. until it’s fixed, you can use my wrapper at —>>>

    http://goo.gl/eiXU4

    makes it easier to see the newest posts.

  120. on 06 Mar 2013 at 4:00 am 120.s0l0m0n said …

    Atheists…..how could you account for the existence of everything except god????

    The atheists are ((((LIARS)))) & (((CHICKENS)))).

    Fail to answer or pretend not noticing the above question.

  121. on 06 Mar 2013 at 4:05 am 121.s0l0m0n said …

    I bet alex will be in the front line entering ((((HELL)))). He’s the most ((((HYPOCRITE)))) of them all.

  122. on 06 Mar 2013 at 1:40 pm 122.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    ive been to hell
    its not bad, you just need to watch out for the two greased up german guys…

  123. on 06 Mar 2013 at 2:51 pm 123.freddies_dead said …

    120.s0l0m0n said …

    Atheists…..how could you account for the existence of everything except god????

    You’ve already been given an account by DPK – the inter-dimensional sea turtle. Is there some reason you’re too scared to assess this accounting? Is it because it shines a light on how your God is equally as imaginary?

    Putting aside your cowardice here’s another account: Existence exists. It’s a brute fact, no God necessary.

    The atheists are ((((LIARS)))) & (((CHICKENS)))).

    Can you back up these claims i.e. demonstrate where DPK is lying. I suspect not.

    The only chickens here are the theists who refuse to offer the evidence they claim to have that they say supports their beliefs. Not surprising when the objects of those beliefs i.e. their gods, are every bit as imaginary as DPK’s turtle.

    Fail to answer or pretend not noticing the above question.

    You have been answered – twice now. Are you going to respond? Or will you continue to cover your ears and shout “lalalalalalalalalala The atheists are ((((LIARS)))) & (((CHICKENS))))”?

    I predict it will be the latter.

  124. on 06 Mar 2013 at 3:21 pm 124.DPK said …

    That’s true. and he has been answered more than twice. The fact that you don’t like the answer because it shows how absurd your position is isn’t our problem.

    Aside that, why do WE have to “account” for the existence of anything? YOU are the one making the claim that some magical god is responsible. It is therefore your job to prove that
    1. this being actually exists.
    2. this being caused everything to exist
    3. how this happened exactly

    As you have been told a thousand times, unless you do that, my sea turtle theory is every bit as valid as your god theory. The fact that you cannot comprehend this simple truth shows plainly just how delusional and irrational you are.

  125. on 06 Mar 2013 at 5:44 pm 125.Anonymous said …

    “The only chickens here are the theists who refuse to offer the evidence they claim to have that they say supports their beliefs. Not surprising when the objects of those beliefs i.e. their gods, are every bit as imaginary as DPK’s turtle.”

    CastBound, Solomon, and Suh have been asked multiple times to back up their claims in this thread. All three have avoiding providing an answer.

    It’s abundantly clear that they don’t have a leg to stand on, hence the constant heckling and attempts to reverse the burden of proof.

  126. on 06 Mar 2013 at 7:05 pm 126.DPK said …

    It’s hysterical that they think merely wrapping up their completely unfounded claims in words like “metaphysical truths” “transcendence” and the big winner: “Well, God is not a man. God is a deity. His kingdom is not magical, it is eternal.” somehow makes it less crazy than any other completely unfounded claim we might pull out of our collective asses.

    And then they have the balls to demand that we provide an explanation for ________________ (fill in the blank with your gap argument of the day), as if their position wins by default if you don’t.

    That ain’t the way it works, sorry. Boom.

  127. on 06 Mar 2013 at 7:32 pm 127.Aquaria said …

    I see that the resident sheep shagger didn’t get past 6th grade, so he definitely didn’t take a philosophy class in college like the rest of us.

    Here’s the difference between existence and nonexistence, sheep molester::

    Wikipedia has a good starting definition for standard physical evidence

    “Existence has been variously defined by sources. In common usage, it is the world one is aware or conscious of through one’s senses, and that persists independently in one’s absence.”

    Existence is made up of matter and energy which can be MEASURED–i.e., demonstrated. Even a lowly rock has energy. Even something as small as a quark has matter. And anyone can go out and verify for themselves that both exist.

    I’ll wait for you mindless stumps to come up with some DEMONSTRABLE evidence of your scum deity.

    Because I find it utterly astounding that we can see galaxies billions of lightyears away from the earth, we can hear pulsars from billions of miles from earth, we can find particles a million times smaller than a strand of human hair, and yet we can’t find one demonstrable clue about your fairy tale king, but you want us to believe the slimeball exists? And all we get from you gullible gits who believe that bollocks is EXACTLY the same arguments Muslims, Hindus, Zoroastrians Shinto and on and on and on have vomited up for millennia?

    Why do I need to do the work of establishing if your scumbag delusion is real? YOU are making the claim it exists. YOU have to cough up some evidence that passes muster with people who aren’t halfwitted sheep molesters like you.

  128. on 06 Mar 2013 at 7:52 pm 128.Suh said …

    DPK you have managed to get other converts to the ninja turtle. So do you really believe now or not?

  129. on 06 Mar 2013 at 7:57 pm 129.DPK said …

    Who said anything about a Ninja? Making up lies again, ASS? Did the Tarot cards tell you that?

    Do I really believe that the inter-dimensional sea turtle hypothesis is every bit as valid as your warrior god creation hypothesis?

    Yes I do, because you haven’t given me any reason at all not to. I suspect you won’t though. Am I right?

  130. on 06 Mar 2013 at 8:00 pm 130.Suh said …

    DPK

    After answering that question your job is to explain.

    1. How did everything come to exist?
    2. Why does it exist?
    3. Provide the timeline of events.

    Of course you will provide the proofs required by atheist.

  131. on 06 Mar 2013 at 8:36 pm 131.DPK said …

    “129.Suh said …

    DPK

    After answering that question your job is to explain.

    No, actually it isn’t. But here you go…

    1. How did everything come to exist?
    I don’t know… but neither do you.
    2. Why does it exist?
    Why do you think there has to be a “why”?
    3. Provide the timeline of events.
    What “events”? And what has a timeline got to do with the existence of your imaginary god?

    Of course you will provide the proofs required by atheist.

    The only “proof” I need to provide is one that supports the claim I made, that my sea turtle myth has just as much evidence to support it as your god myth, which is exactly none. Therefore, accepting the sea turtle hypothesis is just as valid as accepting the your god hypothesis…

    Your welcome…. now are you done making demands of people that you refuse to provide yourself? You are such a complete fraud, ASS… do you think no one can see past your sock puppet persona as SUH… who makes the same idiotic arguments as you? Busted yet again. Don’t you ever get tired of being made a fool of?

  132. on 06 Mar 2013 at 9:08 pm 132.The messenger said …

    Brother DPK, the sentence within the quotation marks below that you quoted does not even remotely suggest that your pitiful accusation concerning my comment is in any way true, due to the fact that it DOES NOT contain the statement of a saint’s assistance making a prayer more likely to compel Jesus to answer a prayer. This lie that you fabricated as a way of deceiving me is pathetic.

    “Mr. DPK, you have failed again. Saints are close to God, so we pray to the saints so that they will ask God to grant the prayer.”

  133. on 06 Mar 2013 at 9:20 pm 133.The messenger said …

    DPK, that statement that you quoted from my comment is useless in this argument because it has nothing to do with the debade conserning the issue of wheather or not God is more likly to answer a pray with or without a saints involement.

    I stated the following sentence within the comment that you quoted from, thus proving that you are lying about me stating that prayers are more likely to be answered with the assistance of a saint.

    “praying to a saint is not required, God can answer your prayers either way.”

    If you are unable to understand the fact that you are wrong, I would sugjest that you check into a mental hospitle as soon as possible.

  134. on 06 Mar 2013 at 9:20 pm 134.The messenger said …

    DPK, that statement that you quoted from my comment is useless in this argument because it has nothing to do with the debade conserning the issue of wheather or not God is more likly to answer a prayer with or without a saints involement.

    I stated the following sentence within the comment that you quoted from, thus proving that you are lying about me stating that prayers are more likely to be answered with the assistance of a saint.

    “praying to a saint is not required, God can answer your prayers either way.”

    If you are unable to understand the fact that you are wrong, I would sugjest that you check into a mental hospitle as soon as possible.

  135. on 07 Mar 2013 at 2:24 am 135.Curmudgeon said …

    DPK where is you buddy Lou? Your post sound suspiciously like your buddy DPK-Lou.

    Atheism summarized: We don’t know anything, we don’t believe anything and we don’t want anyone else to do so either.

    Suh: I luv the blast in 116. One of the best I have seen here.

    Solomon excellent question in #105 but see my initial response for your answer. In reality, atheists who actually do think have theories ranging from alien seeding to parallel universes. They have no proof for either but it provides an avenue to not consider a deity.

  136. on 07 Mar 2013 at 3:17 am 136.alex said …

    ” theories ranging from alien seeding to parallel universes. ”

    so we’re both a-bullshits! we scoff at bullshits like alien seeding & parallel universes, which has no proof. just like your bullshit god!

    once again, even if all atheists are all full of shit, it doesn’t validate your god no more that if all santa claus non believers are full of shit. you don’t get it because the vision of virgens clouds your brain.

    but enough diversions. your god is fascinated with penis foreskins and obsessed with the smell of burnt flesh. show some proof. forget the hell shit. what would you like for your god to do to teach the atheists a lesson?

  137. on 07 Mar 2013 at 3:23 am 137.Anonymous said …

    “They have no proof for either but it provides an avenue to not consider a deity.”

    Then all you need do to win the argument is to tell us which god created the universe, how it was done, when it was done and, of course, show us your proof.

    Show us how it’s done Curmudgeon, let’s see what you’ve got.

  138. on 07 Mar 2013 at 3:38 am 138.alex said …

    all the morons are going to atheist hell because they’re worshiping the wrong god! somebody said, it’s better not to believe because the Real God Only sends those who worship bogus made up shit like hesus, allahbaba, and the rest of the pretenders. call it rascal’s wager.

  139. on 07 Mar 2013 at 4:53 am 139.DPK said …

    And right on cue Curm crawls out of the woodwork with a bunch of irrelevant BS in an attempt distract the discussion away from the utter failure of his other self, Suh, to answer any of the questions asked of him about his imaginary god.

    We haven’t forgotten you ran away from your last embarrassment here. But apparently you aren’t bright enough to realize you can make up new names instead of recycling old ones…. hahaha

  140. on 07 Mar 2013 at 10:33 am 140.s0l0m0n said …

    There’s no point talking to the atheists.

    Wait till they see ((((HELL)))).

  141. on 07 Mar 2013 at 11:17 am 141.freddies_dead said …

    131.Curmudgeon said …

    Atheism summarized: We don’t know anything,

    On the contrary, we know you have no evidence for your imaginary god. If you did you’d present it rather than go through these elaborate diversionary tactics.

    we don’t believe anything and we don’t want anyone else to do so either.

    You can believe whatever the fuck you like but if you want us to accept your belief in god as anyhing more than an irrational delusion you’re going to have to provide the evidence that your god exists. Care to try?

  142. on 07 Mar 2013 at 11:42 am 142.Suh said …

    Atheists all you need do to win the argument is to tell us which what created the universe, how it was done, when it was done and, of course, show us your proof.

    A simple task. Care to try?

  143. on 07 Mar 2013 at 1:04 pm 143.alex said …

    “what created the universe, how it was done, when it was done ”

    i don’t know, but i do know, you’re an idiot because your bullshit didn’t do it.

  144. on 07 Mar 2013 at 1:59 pm 144.Anonymous said …

    Seems like Ass can’t even be bothered to change sock-puppets these days. When cornered, he retreats to childishly aping the question that has stumped him.

    He’s trolling. There’s no attempt to honestly engage in two-way conversation. All he and his other personae are about here is disruption of the conversation. Time to put the pesky little creature back on ignore.

  145. on 07 Mar 2013 at 3:16 pm 145.DPK said …

    137.Suh said …
    “Atheists all you need do to win the argument is to tell us which what created the universe, how it was done, when it was done and, of course, show us your proof.”

    You are so dense and so incredibly obtuse. First of all, there is no “argument”. You make a claim about the existence of a magical god. We reject it because you provide no reason to believe it is true. That is not an “argument”, anymore that your outright rejection of the sea turtle proposition is an “argument”.
    Turn your “argument” around… and for once, be honest.
    All YOU have to do to win the sea turtle “argument” is tell us exactly what created the universe, how it was done, give us an exact timeline, and prove it.
    Since you can’t do that, my statement stands. Your claims about your imaginary creator god are as easily dismissed as my claims about the inter-dimensional sea turtle. If you contend they are not, then it is incumbent on you to show why your claim is any more believable than any other creation myth, and provide evidence to support it.

    I don’t need to prove where the universe came from any more than I need to prove that gravity is not caused by millions of tiny fairies flapping their wings in unison. I don’t know the fundamental nature of gravity any more than I know the fundamental cause of the big bang, but that doesn’t mean your fairytale wins by default.

    Hard to believe an adult is so dense that that concept is so difficult to comprehend.

  146. on 07 Mar 2013 at 8:09 pm 146.gfunk said …

    “Atheists all you need do to win the argument is to tell us which what created the universe, how it was done, when it was done and, of course, show us your proof.”

    We are atheists. We don’t need too know the answer too that questions. Who cares? We do know there is no God and our only reason for existence is let everyone know.

  147. on 08 Mar 2013 at 12:55 am 147.s0l0m0n said …

    gfunk,

    It’s a just atheists are the inhabitants of ((((HELL))))

  148. on 08 Mar 2013 at 1:02 am 148.s0l0m0n said …

    There’s countless Why’s??? & How’s??? how creations comes into existence.
    But the atheists just “don’t need too know the answer too(to) that questions. “

  149. on 08 Mar 2013 at 5:05 am 149.alex said …

    it’s just that s0l loves sheep, don’t you, s0l? true statement because i says it. fucken non gratis.

  150. on 08 Mar 2013 at 10:06 am 150.freddies_dead said …

    147.s0l0m0n said … (to gfunk)

    It’s a just atheists are the inhabitants of ((((HELL))))

    Any evidence for the existence of Hell? Or of your God perhaps?

    Hell is nothing but another contradictory concept from Christianty. It is claimed to be somewhere devoid of God’s presence. How can that make sense in light of the claim that God is omnipresent? Just more absurdity from the “Word of God”.

  151. on 08 Mar 2013 at 11:41 am 151.alex said …

    It’s a just atheists are the inhabitants of ((((HELL))))

    because s0l got his own personal heaven among his beloved sheep. in his binary mind, if you don’t go to heaven, you’re going to hell.

  152. on 08 Mar 2013 at 1:32 pm 152.Curmudgeon said …

    “We don’t need too know the answer too(sic) that questions(sic). Who cares?”

    Does anyone smell that funk? Apparently many care which is why science spends some much time on the question.

    Now, if you KNOW there is not a God we can wrap this entire matter up. Prove it Funk.

  153. on 08 Mar 2013 at 1:53 pm 153.DPK said …

    There goes idiot Curm again, demanding people disprove his unsupported claims, otherwise he wins by default.
    Now Curm knows perfectly well that by “who cares” what was meant was that we don’t have to provide an explanation for the Big Bang in order to reject his claim of a magical god, just like he doesn’t have to “prove” that the inter dimensional sea turtle did NOT fart the universe into existence in order to reject it.
    If I want anyone to accept the sea turtle myth, it would naturally fall to me to provide some rational evidence that it is true.
    Sadly, Curm returns, but brings nothing but his very old, very tired, and very discredited tactics of diversions and reversal of the burden of proof with him. Because, camper… That’s all he’s got.

  154. on 08 Mar 2013 at 3:47 pm 154.gfunk said …

    By who cares I did meant who cares? It is in the past and means nothin’ now.

    I know their isn’t any God. It isn’t possible.

  155. on 08 Mar 2013 at 3:48 pm 155.s0l0m0n said …

    freddies_dead,

    “Any evidence for the existence of Hell?”

    Gaze at the Sun. Thats about ((((HELL)))).

  156. on 08 Mar 2013 at 5:12 pm 156.DPK said …

    In fact gfunk, you don’t actually “know” any such thing, because the way they define their god (with constantly moving goal posts and circular reasoning no less) it is not possible to “know”.

    The same can be said for the tooth fairy, Santa, and the magical sea turtle that birthed the universe. You cannot “know” they are not real, because their definition involves them being magical and having the ability to avoid detection under any circumstances. In short, god is defined as something that has the exact same properties as no god at all. Hmmmm.

    But likewise, they also cannot “know” that their god is real either. That’s why you need faith. Those on here that tell you they “know” god is real are simply liars.

  157. on 08 Mar 2013 at 5:20 pm 157.Curmudgeon said …

    Funk the past means nothing? So we should shut down all work and funding on all research going into origins and evolution. It doesn’t matter?

    So why isn’t it possible no God exists? Is it because you can’t understand how it is possible? Tell more me on how you know God does not exist.

  158. on 08 Mar 2013 at 5:29 pm 158.gfunk said …

    Quite change my words. I know God dosnt exists. Changing definitions means nothing.

    All research is just a waste of money and time. What is done is done. They need to find somethin better to do.

  159. on 08 Mar 2013 at 5:59 pm 159.alex said …

    more bullshit diversions, courtesy of curmfuck. who gives a flying fuck about the past, hitler, yo mama, my stink, et all?

    your god is bullshit. santa is bullshit. tooth fairies are bullshit. curmfuck is bullshitting. curmfuck got nothing but diversions. all talk,

    why do i respond? i cannot not let bullshit slide.

  160. on 08 Mar 2013 at 8:46 pm 160.The messenger said …

    134.The messenger said …

    DPK, that statement that you quoted from my comment is useless in this argument because it has nothing to do with the debade conserning the issue of wheather or not God is more likly to answer a prayer with or without a saints involement.

    I stated the following sentence within the comment that you quoted from, thus proving that you are lying about me stating that prayers are more likely to be answered with the assistance of a saint.

    “praying to a saint is not required, God can answer your prayers either way.”

    If you are unable to understand the fact that you are wrong, I would sugjest that you check into a mental hospitle as soon as possible.

  161. on 09 Mar 2013 at 12:13 am 161.s0l0m0n said …

    alex is ((((BULLSHIT))))

  162. on 09 Mar 2013 at 1:01 am 162.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    Xtians:0
    atheists:about 200?
    alex:over 9000!!!!!!

  163. on 09 Mar 2013 at 2:37 am 163.alex said …

    ok. i’m bullshit and in less than 50 years, i’ll be dirt. meanwhile, s0l, you just keep fucking your sheep, while praying to allah or ra or whatever the fuck you call god, as you fantasize about virgins. because in the desert you call home, the camels are too high for you.

    dude, i’m the gay, lesbian, black, midget, smelly, transexual, hindu, girly man, and whatever else you want to call me, but it don’t mean shit. your god, whom you’re too embarassed to even name, is bullshit.

    your sheep is calling you. go baaaaack.

  164. on 09 Mar 2013 at 11:22 am 164.s0l0m0n said …

    Atheists…..how could you account for the existence of everything except god????

    Sea turtle……..

    The most stupid remarks that ever came out from the mouth of the future inhabitants of ((((HELL))))

  165. on 09 Mar 2013 at 1:08 pm 165.Anonymous said …

    “Sadly, Curm returns, but brings nothing but his very old, very tired, and very discredited tactics of diversions and reversal of the burden of proof with him. Because, camper… That’s all he’s got.”

    And by now it should be obvious that it’s a deliberate act, as it is with the other trolls and sock-puppets here, and that engaging in their nonsense only encourages them further.

  166. on 10 Mar 2013 at 12:02 am 166.Curmudgeon said …

    Funk

    Thank you for that slice of wisdom. If you no then you just no, right camper?

    Don’t be angry with DPK, he was only trying to help.

  167. on 10 Mar 2013 at 10:35 am 167.s0l0m0n said …

    sea turtle…..

    Pretend you didn’t hear it or let it enter your left ear and exit from your right ear or even better those claims are fit for the hall of the drains.

  168. on 12 Mar 2013 at 7:46 am 168.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    What is the difference between the evidence of the turtle (that doesnt exist obviously) and you God? (i believe his name is Allah?)

  169. on 12 Mar 2013 at 8:26 am 169.The messenger said …

    Brother 163.alex, you are not bull…., you are just misguided.

  170. on 12 Mar 2013 at 10:45 am 170.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    Nope
    he isnt misguided
    Rude? ehh, a little.
    But misguided? nope, nothing but pure guided fury is what alex is ;P

  171. on 12 Mar 2013 at 10:57 am 171.freddies_dead said …

    155.s0l0m0n said …

    freddies_dead,

    “Any evidence for the existence of Hell?”

    Gaze at the Sun. Thats about ((((HELL)))).

    A simple no would have sufficed.

  172. on 12 Mar 2013 at 1:11 pm 172.DPK said …

    on 09 Mar 2013 at 11:22 am 164.s0l0m0n said …
    Sea turtle……..
    The most stupid remarks that ever came out from the mouth of the future inhabitants of ((((HELL))))

    Explain why you reject the idea of the sea turtle and why you think it is “stupid”.

  173. on 13 Mar 2013 at 12:51 am 173.s0l0m0n said …

    Xcanthean Zeno,

    “What is the difference between the evidence of the turtle (that doesnt exist obviously) and you God? (i believe his name is Allah?)”

    The difference is….
    God=nothing and…
    Sea turtle=something

    Whaaaa….ka….ka…ka…

  174. on 13 Mar 2013 at 12:57 am 174.s0l0m0n said …

    DPK,

    “Explain why you reject the idea of the sea turtle and why you think it is “stupid”.”

    The sea turtle is definitely not God coz sea turtle is not = nothing

    God should be=nothing coz not a single creation could posses god’s image.

  175. on 13 Mar 2013 at 1:41 pm 175.freddies_dead said …

    174.s0l0m0n said …

    DPK,

    “Explain why you reject the idea of the sea turtle and why you think it is “stupid”.”

    The sea turtle is definitely not God coz sea turtle is not = nothing

    God should be=nothing coz not a single creation could posses god’s image.

    That’s your argument? Seriously? You think that something has the image of an undetectable and entirely imaginary magic creator sea turtle? Let me guess, you think it looks like an actual sea turtle, right? Idiot.

    I didn’t think you could get much dumber, but it would appear you have hidden depths of stupidity. Depths that you’re just now beginning to plumb in order to share them with the world.

  176. on 13 Mar 2013 at 4:10 pm 176.DPK said …

    Solomon,

    No, sea turtle is not equal to anything in the physical realm. The power of sea turtle is beyond comprehension. It is an [[[ INTER DIMENSIONAL ]]] sea turtle.

    See?

    Now do you believe?

    yuk yuk yuk…..

  177. on 13 Mar 2013 at 4:45 pm 177.s0l0m0n said …

    DPK,

    Whether it’s just a sea turtle or an [[[ INTER DIMENSIONAL ]]] sea turtle, both sounds one ((((DUMB)))) deity. And the one who gave it’s name or identity is even ((((dumber)))) or ((((CONDEMNED)))) or both.

    Silly claim.

    DPK, you better declare yourself ((((INSANE)))).

    Whaaaaa….ka…ka…ka….

  178. on 13 Mar 2013 at 5:25 pm 178.Anonymous said …

    Solomon, so you reject the sea turtle because the idea sounds dumb and the person suggesting it sounds dumb?

  179. on 13 Mar 2013 at 7:50 pm 179.DPK said …

    “177.s0l0m0n said …
    “DPK,
    Whether it’s just a sea turtle or an [[[ INTER DIMENSIONAL ]]] sea turtle, both sounds one ((((DUMB)))) deity. And the one who gave it’s name or identity is even ((((dumber)))) or ((((CONDEMNED)))) or both.
    Silly claim.”

    No it isn’t.

    See, I can play thins game too.

  180. on 13 Mar 2013 at 7:53 pm 180.DPK said …

    Oh Solomon, I almost forgot.

    yuk, yuk yuk……..

  181. on 13 Mar 2013 at 7:57 pm 181.DPK said …

    “178.Anonymous said …

    Solomon, so you reject the sea turtle because the idea sounds dumb and the person suggesting it sounds dumb?”

    That, and the fact that no one has offered any evidence to suggest that it is actually true, other broad, unfounded claims that cannot be disproved because they are nebulous and ever shifting.

    The irony is lost on Solomon.

  182. on 13 Mar 2013 at 10:30 pm 182.Severin said …

    #179
    “Whether it’s just a sea turtle or an [[[ INTER DIMENSIONAL ]]] sea turtle, both sounds one ((((DUMB)))) deity.”

    And a god who = nothing, and has no name, is – ([[({{WHAT}})]])?

    [(({[[{(NOTHING)]]})] !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You are an
    (((((((@#@$(((((((((ATHEIST))))))))$@#@)))))))

    man!

    I am glad an idiot joined atheists. Rarely happens.

  183. on 13 Mar 2013 at 10:34 pm 183.alex said …

    “I am glad an idiot joined atheists. Rarely happens.”

    but, he needs to leave the sheep alone.

  184. on 14 Mar 2013 at 12:34 am 184.s0l0m0n said …

    AAAAhhhhhh….

    No need to hear the rants of atheists.
    ((((RUBBISH))))

  185. on 14 Mar 2013 at 11:25 am 185.freddies_dead said …

    And now s0l the sheep worrier sticks his fingers in his ears and shouts ‘lalalalalalalalalala I can’t hear you as you destroy the bullshit arguments that I think prove the existence of the God I imagine exists’

    Hilarious.

  186. on 14 Mar 2013 at 11:38 am 186.The messenger said …

    181.DPK, we reject the sea turtle story because it is not stated in the bible, or the ­Tanakh, or the quran.
    I pity you.

  187. on 14 Mar 2013 at 3:03 pm 187.DPK said …

    hahahaha…

    So Solomon flatly rejects someone’s explanation on the creation of the universe because it “sounds dumb”, but cannot understand why someone else rejects his equally dumb sounding explanation. god = nothing.

    No need to hear the rants of crazy ass theists.
    {{{{RUBBISH}}}}

    Goodbye Solomon. Since you don’t wish to hear anything anyone else has to say, your purpose on a “discussion” forum is worthless. No one is interested in hearing you preach. If you can prove the sea turtle does not exist, then do it. Otherwise all you have are empty words.

    yuk yuk yuk.

  188. on 14 Mar 2013 at 3:41 pm 188.s0l0m0n said …

    That will always be the agenda of atheists. Hoping theists will abandoned their site so that they will not have to crack their heads to answer doctrine questions from theists..

  189. on 14 Mar 2013 at 3:43 pm 189.s0l0m0n said …

    My god = nothing are not dumb sounding explanation. It is proven doctrines.

  190. on 14 Mar 2013 at 5:58 pm 190.alex said …

    ‘No one is interested in hearing you preach”

    s0l = nongratisredux?

  191. on 14 Mar 2013 at 7:46 pm 191.The messenger said …

    Brother Solomon, I am interested in hearing you preach.

  192. on 15 Mar 2013 at 12:56 am 192.s0l0m0n said …

    1 – nil

    A terrible ((((BLOW)))) to alex…..

    Thanks messenger…

  193. on 15 Mar 2013 at 8:21 am 193.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    Sorry to break your bubble Messenger.
    But Sol doesnt believe in your god and you will burn in hell for not believeing in his.

  194. on 15 Mar 2013 at 9:19 am 194.s0l0m0n said …

    “But Sol doesnt believe in your god and you will burn in hell for not believeing in his.”

    That will be another agenda Xcanthean Zeno. But for the time being we are allies when comes to a need of a deity that manages everything.

    Whaaaa….ka…ka…ka…

  195. on 15 Mar 2013 at 1:39 pm 195.alex said …

    s0l, go back to your sheep, fucken nongratisredux.

  196. on 15 Mar 2013 at 2:47 pm 196.DPK said …

    “That will be another agenda Xcanthean Zeno. But for the time being we are allies when comes to a need of a deity that manages everything.”

    I see. So even though you actually believe, as I do, that messenger’s god is not real, you’ll tolerate his belief because it them makes your belief sound less crazy?

    But sea turtle amounts to a “deity” of sorts, that also explains everything in the universe. And furthermore, you personally don’t believe in messenger’s Jesus just as you don’t believe in sea turtle. But you ally yourself with messenger because he seems to offer you some measure of validity for your claims, while sea turtle does not?

    You are a very confused and devious person. You are just using messenger as a way to make yourself look less insane. hahaha… well, maybe messenger is fooled, but no one else is.

  197. on 15 Mar 2013 at 3:28 pm 197.MrQ said …

    From the Mess:

    Brother Solomon, I am interested in hearing you preach.

    Then visit a mosque.

  198. on 15 Mar 2013 at 4:23 pm 198.freddies_dead said …

    189.s0l0m0n said …

    My god = nothing are not dumb sounding explanation.

    It’s incredibly dumb sounding and it’s not even in the same universe as an explanation. It’s bullshit and I think you know it just as well as the atheists here do.

    It is proven doctrines.

    There’s no such thing as a “proven” religious doctrine. There can’t be when you’ve never proved that your God is anything other than an imaginary concept.

    Care to try beyond your ridiculous God=nothing bullshit? That crap just makes you look like a moron.

  199. on 15 Mar 2013 at 4:30 pm 199.s0l0m0n said …

    That is only your personal view. Since when did I appoint you as my speaker DPK? Don’t try to twist my agenda. The one who have been a fooled all along is you but you don’t realized.

  200. on 15 Mar 2013 at 7:31 pm 200.DPK said …

    “199.s0l0m0n said …

    That is only your personal view.”

    No that is proven doctrines, because I say so. You just don’t realize it, probably because you are irrationally deluded.

    You have given us no reason to think that any claims I make are any less valid than any claims you make. So, using your rules, what I say is true until you prove it otherwise.

    But, let’s see if you are willing to risk your alliance with messenger by answering honestly:

    Is Jesus the one true god?
    Will Christians go to paradise when they die?
    Is Christianity a true religion?

  201. on 16 Mar 2013 at 2:09 am 201.s0l0m0n said …

    “Is Jesus the one true god?
    Will Christians go to paradise when they die?
    Is Christianity a true religion?”

    That’s purely simple….

    Is Jesus the one true god?-Nope
    Will Christians go to paradise when they die?-Nope
    Is Christianity a true religion?-Nope,it’s the twisted version of the true religion.

    Now what’s the fuss?
    I think messenger would understand that coz I’am delivering the truth.

  202. on 16 Mar 2013 at 8:59 am 202.alex said …

    ha ha. s0l just fucked messenger and messenger likes it. messenger is one of s0l’s sheep. now it’s confirmed that s0l is not xtian.

    with countless xtians sites out there, s0l continues to try fuck with atheists but fails. with messenger, ole s0l has found his true love. wa, ka, ka.

  203. on 16 Mar 2013 at 10:48 am 203.Anonymous said …

    You guys are doing a great job at showing the nonsensical nature of the arguments of folks such as Solomon and how Messenger just goes round in circles. That’s great.

    It’s sad though, that in terms of the trolls shutting down actual conversation with actual theists, there they are doing a grand job.

    Likewise. We are at Post 200 and all we are doing is going round the same diversionary arguments the trolls and sock-puppets advance on each and every post. They do it to derail the conversation and they are very good at what they do.

    I’m not sure of the answer, but I hope you guys can find one.

  204. on 16 Mar 2013 at 2:38 pm 204.alex said …

    “I’m not sure of the answer, but I hope you guys can find one.”

    not sure, either, but turn the other cheeck i will not. seen the recent crap posted lately? it’s classic xtian penitence shit. the motherfucker done something horribly wrong, that praying for forgiveness is not enough. he’s compelled to come in here and shit all over the place.

    xtians and/or atheists can discuss all they want, but most people can smell bullshit right away. like somebody said before, it’s ok to feel a certain, delusional way, but don’t try to make everybody else the same way.

    now, get that bullshit outta here.

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