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Christianity Thomas on 11 Feb 2013 12:03 am

How Christians rationalize their delusion

As we read this story, we witness a Christian rationalizing his delusion:

Of God, Darwin and creation

But enough pert answers and beating around the bush. Let’s cut to the chase.

The Bible says one thing and the theory of natural selection says something else. How can I or anyone believe both?

To be blunt, I can’t. I don’t believe the biblical account of creation.

I can’t believe, not because of my science background, but because the Bible doesn’t say one thing.

It says two. Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 offer two contradictory creation stories. Since the two different stories cannot both be believed, I rely on my God-given gifts of perception and reason for the facts.

I don’t believe the biblical accounts of creation, but I do believe IN them. A story that is not factual, can still show us truth.

Why is this rationalization? Because this pastor is admitting that the Bible’s creation story is nothing but a myth. Meaning it was written by ignorant men, like every other myth. Meaning that the God described is mythological. Meaning that God is imaginary.

The stories of creation teach us that all things find their source in God, that we are made in God’s image, and that creation is very good. We needn’t believe the facts of the stories to believe IN the truth they carry. Facts are to be seen, measured and tested.

The truth, like the Creator, is a person, not a thing to be grasped, but someone with whom to form a relationship — Jesus Christ, the Way, the Truth and the Life.

He fails to see that the entire Bible is myth. You cannot “form a relationship” with a mythological being. It is embarrassing to think about this man, and billions like him, having their “realtionships” with their imaginary friends. How can adults behave in such a ridiculous way?

422 Responses to “How Christians rationalize their delusion”

  1. on 06 Mar 2013 at 3:34 am 1.the messenger said …

    DPK, the sentence within the quotation marks below that you quoted does not even remotely suggest that your pitiful accusation concerning my comment is in any way true, due to the fact that it DOES NOT contain the statement of a saint’s assistance making a prayer more likely to compel Jesus to answer a prayer. This lie that you fabricated as a way of deceiving me is pathetic.

    “Mr. DPK, you have failed again. Saints are close to God, so we pray to the saints so that they will ask God to grant the prayer.”

  2. on 06 Mar 2013 at 3:35 am 2.the messenger said …

    DPK, that statement that you posted from my comment is useless in this argument because it has nothing to do with whether a prayer will be answered or not.
    I also stated the following sentence within the comment that you quoted thus proving that you are lying about me stating that prayer are more likely to be answered with the assistance of a saint.
    “praying to a saint is not required, God can answer your prayers either way.”:,

  3. on 06 Mar 2013 at 10:10 pm 3.the messenger said …

    I’m waiting for a responce.

    DPK.

  4. on 07 Mar 2013 at 9:15 pm 4.DPK said …

    What response? You said one thing, then when called on it you said something else.
    You’re obviously a liar and a basically dishonest person who cannot admit when he is wrong.
    I’m done with you. You are not a person of integrity.

    If your god is real, at least I will face him knowing that I was at least forthright with people.
    Can you say the same?

  5. on 18 Mar 2013 at 10:52 pm 5.T-boy said …

    Most people on this blog can’t say the same, Mr. DPK, theist, atheist or agnostic. I’m glad you are so exceedingly confident in your morality. Don’t use it to elevate yourself above people or anything. Oh wait…I forgot that’s a province resigned only to theists, right?

    Let’s get back on subject.

    My analysis:

    The pastor’s story is an explanation for what he is misinterpreting in Genesis as two creation events. (not that I share a fundamentalist view of Genesis, I’m educated enough to know that most of the stories in the old testament are syncretic.)

    Thomas’ critique is not only poorly crafted but it makes absolutely no sense.

    Why is this a rationalization?

    You have yet to tell us in any coherent way.

    Thomas’ conclusion is not supported by anything written in the story and he seems to only be interested in repeatedly asserting his position that God is a myth. With nothing related to the story supporting this claim, other than this man stated that he sees what he believes to be a contradiction.
    yet, Thomas seems to draw the conclusion that this somehow proves his presupposition…What?

    What does this man’s reconciling with himself or if you want to call it “rationalizing” have to do with your conclusion? It sounds too me like ol’ Tom just wants to point a finger and say…

    “SEE this guys was conflicted and contradicted himself!! That proves the bible’s a MYTH, Your God’s a MYTH and look how MYTHY this guy is! MYTH, MYTH, MYTH and you’re all STUPID for Believing MYTHS! Take that, stupid Theos! Ha I’m gonna go play Elder Scrolls now…oh,uh…I mean get laid!

    This way he gathers attention and an audience and gets to sound superior to all his fellow internet athiets Sorry, but I think this whole articles a big fail.

  6. on 01 Jul 2013 at 6:45 am 6.Bulls Wool said …

    Faith is a gift. Seek and you will find. Hey what if people believe how does that effect you? You would have to admit if everyone live the example of Jesus the world would be a better place hey. Cannot deny that. No murder, no drugs, etc etc etc

  7. on 01 Jul 2013 at 7:49 am 7.Fluttershy said …

    Yes, it would be great…

    I could do with a slave to whip and shit.
    Ohh, and i cant wait for all the gays to be sent to hell because having a genetic trait is a sin.
    Jesus is great.

    Dumbass….

  8. on 01 Jul 2013 at 12:00 pm 8.Curmudgeon said …

    Fluttershy,

    What a filthy mouth. Not good for a young lady.

  9. on 01 Jul 2013 at 12:24 pm 9.The messenger said …

    407.Fluttershy, Jesus does not support slavery.

  10. on 01 Jul 2013 at 12:45 pm 10.The messenger said …

    407.Fluttershy, Jesus does not hate gay people.

    Gay people can go to heaven.

  11. on 01 Jul 2013 at 12:48 pm 11.DPK said …

    And Crum, in typical third grade fashion, failing to have any real substance for his claims about his imaginary god-buddy, resorts to what is, in his mind, the ultimate personal insult… He intentionally referred to you as a female, a second class life form according to his holy book. I bet Fluttershy will be smarting from that clever retort for a while!
    Stellar Crum. You loving Christians never fail to reveal your true nature whenever your delusions are threatened, do you?

  12. on 01 Jul 2013 at 1:42 pm 12.Fluttershy said …

    “Fluttershy,
    What a filthy mouth. Not good for a young lady.”

    you say this AFTER you say that i am male? How odd…
    Well, i guess that women ARE second class life forms, and that they should do the dishes and whatnot.

    Anyway, nice offtopic post, now that i know i have a filthy mouth, this makes god all so clear…
    Yay.

    *offtopic, sorry*
    I can swear all i want, there is no “god” that will punish me for it.
    There is however, teachers, peers, adults, and my parents who WILL punish me if i use excessive language…(although….us aussies swear alot all the time…so, eh…)

    *on topic*
    Curm, why do you hide your delusion by being offtopic?
    Surely you realise that in order to gain knowledge, you have to post SOMETHING relevant to the debate? right?

  13. on 01 Jul 2013 at 2:16 pm 13.DPK said …

    Crum and the sock brigade are not interested in gaining knowledge. They are only interested in trying to sidetrack discussions that threaten their delusions. It’s called trolling. The brainwashing is strong with them.
    When the discussion turns to something that clearly makes them uncomfortable, they either lash out with a personal attack, create a straw man argument to argue against (the “Martin” sock is famous for this, creating elaborate “logical fallacies” that don’t exist) or try to take the discussion off topic by throwing in a red herring.
    Bottom line, none of them ever show us any actual evidence to suggest that their god, or ANY gods for that matter, actually exist.

  14. on 01 Jul 2013 at 8:34 pm 14.A said …

    Butterfly

    This is on topic. You need credibility. You have none. When all you have is lame obscenities like some rapper in concert you don’t get have any credibility or a response to your stupid questions. You are here just to be picked at

    You are dismissed. Go upstairs and spank yourself

  15. on 01 Jul 2013 at 8:55 pm 15.DPK said …

    Yes, Assman’s definition of “on topic” discussion is calling you a girl.
    Shows you his level of reasoning, and his mindset about gender. You are a girl, so no one is going to take anything you say seriously.
    Such is the thought pattern of the loving christian.
    No surprise there. Assman again runs away from any real argument and refuses to answer any questions because he thinks you are either female, or your choice of screen names indicates you are not up to his level of manliness. Either way, he hold you in contempt… but he loves you like his role model Jesus, who loves you unconditionally, but will send you to an eternity of hellfire if you don’t tow the line.
    Pathetic, isn’t it?

  16. on 01 Jul 2013 at 10:03 pm 16.A said …

    Hmmmm,

    LoL!! Dippy reads things into a post like he reads facts into assumptions!

    Anyone see anything about women int #412?

    LoL!!!!

    Dippy go find you a Charlie Mansion!!

  17. on 01 Jul 2013 at 10:10 pm 17.DPK said …

    Yup.. In the other thread posted at the same time you said:

    on 01 Jul 2013 at 8:38 pm 138.A said …
    I thought little girls named themselves after pink magical ponies? Is Butterfly a dude!!
    I adore woman. I have 3 very special ones in my life. They are liked pretty ponies when they were small. I see how Dippy thought Butterfly to be a gal.

    Or did you forget that you weren’t posting as Curm that time? Hahaha… Busted once again. Who do you think you are fooling? No one here is held in any more contempt than you. You are truly a pathetic excuse for a human being.

  18. on 01 Jul 2013 at 11:20 pm 18.A said …

    Skippy!!

    Did you confuse your threads now???!!!

    Yes, I’m sure anyone would mistake my “adoring” and “special” as contempt!!

    LoL!!!! Skippy I do love the reasoning. Thanks for the great laugh but you are “off topic” now aren’t you Skippy?

    Try to keep you threads straight Skippy or I will have you banned! Lol!!

  19. on 01 Jul 2013 at 11:46 pm 19.Fluttershy said …

    Actually, Fluttershy is yellow and pink…

    *ontopic*
    Are you going to post something relevant now?

  20. on 10 Jul 2014 at 10:49 pm 20.Atheistandfirmaboutit said …

    It’s really frightful to know these religions are mixing up with politics & the government.

    Delusional people attempting to run serious matters is the real reason the States is in the trouble it’s in.

    I’ve done study on a dozen or so religions & have found Christianity to be the most dangerous of them all. The sooner the States is back to its basics of more Atheists, separation of delusion & State the better.

  21. on 11 Jul 2014 at 1:11 am 21.The Prickly Science Guy said …

    “found Christianity to be the most dangerous of them all.”

    ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!

    Ohhhh, that was so funny! What a hilarious claim!!!!

    Mr Firm thanks for the comedy bit. Where do you do this “study” on religions? Lol!!!!!! On WWGHA? On atheist blogs? Maybe the Richard Dawkins school of world religions? Lol!!!!!!!!!

    Thanks friend!

  22. on 11 Jul 2014 at 11:50 am 22.alex said …

    “Ohhhh, that was so funny! What a hilarious claim!!!!”

    oh, look. the motherfucker is amused. just chomping at the bit, trolling in a desperate attempt to try to bring back the hitler debate shit.

    check his book at: http://goo.gl/UYo1uS

    do a find on ‘lol’ and you’ll see that the motherfucker posted it 731 times in the context of some smart ass remark. nothing from this motherfucker even remotely proves his god. instead he delivers lame sarcasm, while looking around, hoping for some kind of amen.

    no fluff for you? oh well. you can always bring back your other fucked up personas, martin, rl wooten, et all.

    keep up the bullshit, motherfucker.

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