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Christianity Thomas on 11 Feb 2013 12:03 am

How Christians rationalize their delusion

As we read this story, we witness a Christian rationalizing his delusion:

Of God, Darwin and creation

But enough pert answers and beating around the bush. Let’s cut to the chase.

The Bible says one thing and the theory of natural selection says something else. How can I or anyone believe both?

To be blunt, I can’t. I don’t believe the biblical account of creation.

I can’t believe, not because of my science background, but because the Bible doesn’t say one thing.

It says two. Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 offer two contradictory creation stories. Since the two different stories cannot both be believed, I rely on my God-given gifts of perception and reason for the facts.

I don’t believe the biblical accounts of creation, but I do believe IN them. A story that is not factual, can still show us truth.

Why is this rationalization? Because this pastor is admitting that the Bible’s creation story is nothing but a myth. Meaning it was written by ignorant men, like every other myth. Meaning that the God described is mythological. Meaning that God is imaginary.

The stories of creation teach us that all things find their source in God, that we are made in God’s image, and that creation is very good. We needn’t believe the facts of the stories to believe IN the truth they carry. Facts are to be seen, measured and tested.

The truth, like the Creator, is a person, not a thing to be grasped, but someone with whom to form a relationship — Jesus Christ, the Way, the Truth and the Life.

He fails to see that the entire Bible is myth. You cannot “form a relationship” with a mythological being. It is embarrassing to think about this man, and billions like him, having their “realtionships” with their imaginary friends. How can adults behave in such a ridiculous way?

422 Responses to “How Christians rationalize their delusion”

  1. on 11 Feb 2013 at 2:38 am 1.Erik said …

    Because they’re not adults. Adults accept reality for what it is, rather than clinging to a wish.

  2. on 11 Feb 2013 at 3:35 am 2.s0l0m0n said …

    The theory of natural selection is just a theory. No proofs whatsoever. In other words it’s just a ((((HOAX)))).
    One thing that is clear cut…

    God does not possess any of his creations image.This is depicted in the ‘true’ book.

  3. on 11 Feb 2013 at 4:05 am 3.Brad said …

    “How can adults behave in such a ridiculous way?:

    It’s quite simple really. Kids go to college and get brainwashed and no longer think for themselves. They let some guy with letters behind his name think for him.

    The idea of two differing creation accounts is a common misinterpretation of these two passages in Genesis, which, in fact, describe the same creation event. They do not disagree as to the order in which things were created and do not contradict one another. Genesis 1 describes the “six days of creation” and a seventh day of rest, Genesis 2 covers only one day of that creation week, the sixth day, and there is no contradiction.

    In Genesis 2, the author steps back in the temporal sequence to the sixth day, when God made man. In the first chapter, the author of Genesis presents the creation of man on the sixth day as the culmination or high point of creation. Then, in the second chapter, the author gives greater detail regarding the creation of man.

  4. on 11 Feb 2013 at 4:08 am 4.The messenger said …

    Brother Thomas, you are better than these pathetic lies.

  5. on 11 Feb 2013 at 4:11 am 5.DPK said …

    Thomas… Link directs to wrong website.

  6. on 11 Feb 2013 at 4:16 am 6.The messenger said …

    Brother Thomas, Genesis 1 and genises 2 do not tell two diiferent creation stories.

    Nowhere in genesis 2 does it state any 2nd creation story.

    Genesis 1 states information about how god constructed the Earth.

    Genesis 2, states information about what living things that God created on the Earth.

    Genesis 2 is not a 2nd story of creation, it is another part of the creation story.

  7. on 11 Feb 2013 at 4:23 am 7.The messenger said …

    My family, genesis 1 states how God constructed the Earth.

    Genesis 2, states what life forms God put on the Earth.

    These are not two different stories, as Brother Thomas idiotically states. They are both parts of the same stories.

    Stop listening to our mentally misguided brother Thomas, and start listening to the truth.

  8. on 11 Feb 2013 at 4:33 am 8.The messenger said …

    Thomas, God is more than just an all powerful being. He is our father, and he our creator.

    God loves us, and he wants us to love each other and him too. We can all form a relationship with God, if we chose to have faith in him and if we follow his laws and virtues.

    http://www.rwf2000.com/gifs/10-God-Man.jpg
    His law.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torah
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Bible
    His virtues. The bible that I am referring to, is the Catholic bible.

  9. on 11 Feb 2013 at 6:25 am 9.Anonymous said …

    And Brad roars in with a two-in-one own goal.

    Brad starts off with plagiarism having complained that people don’t think for themselves (own goal, number one).

    Brad then compounds his embarrassment and proceeds to prove Thomas’ point regarding the need believe ridiculous rationalizations in order to protect the delusion (two nil, both own goals)

  10. on 11 Feb 2013 at 10:44 am 10.A said …

    Anony the Mouse roars in whining and complaining about a a poster, again, rather than content.

    This two creation accounts has been rebutted for so long I ROTFL when I saw it brought up again.

    What the atheist elite will do is this. Laugh at any creation account but they will not offer a viable solution to how it all began. They offer aliens, parallel universes and eternal matter/energy but, LOL!, they offer no proof, the one item they always yell the loudest for. What hypocrites.

  11. on 11 Feb 2013 at 12:21 pm 11.Lou(DFW) said …

    10.ASS said …

    “Anony the Mouse roars in whining and complaining about a a poster, again, rather than content.”

    If there’s anyone who’s a expert on that, then it’s most definitely you.

    “Laugh at any creation account but they will not offer a viable solution to how it all began.”

    So what? “How it all began” is irrelevant to god and religion unless you can provide evidence for your imaginary god and that he created “it all.” You have no such evidence because it didn’t happen that way.

    “They offer aliens, parallel universes and eternal matter/energy but, LOL!, they offer no proof, the one item they always yell the loudest for. What hypocrites.”

    ASS again goes off on an irrelevant tangent to avoid the fact that he doesn’t have any evidence for his delusion. Notice how he first went-off on 9.Anonymous, now he’s on a rant about things that were not even mentioned.

    ASS, and the rest of you, the topic isn’t creation. It’s about how xtians rationalize their delusion. At least ASS is indirectly staying on topic in that regard.

  12. on 11 Feb 2013 at 12:39 pm 12.Lesbian carwasher said …

    one question, why is he called ASS? O.o

  13. on 11 Feb 2013 at 1:00 pm 13.Lou(DFW) said …

    12.Lesbian carwasher said …

    “one question, why is he called ASS? O.o”

    Because he is one.

    He claimed to be an astrophysicist. And I got tired of typing ASStrophysicist. He demonstrates over and over that he’s an ass, but never that he’s astrophysicist.

  14. on 11 Feb 2013 at 3:30 pm 14.DPK said …

    There’s that… and Lou neglected to mention he has told us here that he is a capital “A” Astrophysicist, which means that he obviously failed English grammar while earning his Astrophysicist license from community college.

    But, I think more accurately, he is nicknamed for the orifice from which his thoughts typically originate.

    Think about that which typically eminates from your own asshole, and you will understand the correlation, and why it is a fitting moniker.

  15. on 11 Feb 2013 at 7:02 pm 15.Anonymous said …

    Anony the Mouse roars in whining and complaining about a a poster, again, rather than content.

    So now the hypocritical Asstrophsicist is unaware that plagiarizing refers to content.

    Back to playground taunting again, eh Xenon – I mean A.

  16. on 11 Feb 2013 at 7:23 pm 16.DPK said …

    “They offer aliens, parallel universes and eternal matter/energy but, LOL!, they offer no proof, the one item they always yell the loudest for. What hypocrites.”

    It is always so much fun slamming your red herrings and reminding everyone of the nonsense you post.

    No one here “offers” any of those things, except perhaps to refute your unfounded claims that there is no other possible explanation for the existence of the universe save for a magical god-being.

    Atheism is not an “offer” of anything. It is simply a rejection of your completely unfounded superstitions and fables. The fact is, atheists don’t know exactly how the universe originated any more than people who don’t watch tennis offer any explanation for the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principal. The actual fact is, YOU are the only ones here claiming to know exactly how the universe came to be… and you do not “KNOW” that… at all. Yet, you continue to insist that you do, while offering no actual evidence that would convince anyone that any of the claims you make about the nature and reality of your supernatural god-friend are actually true.

    Until you do that, the continual lies you present about atheists in your attempt to divert attention away from the obvious are just pathetic farts in the wind.

  17. on 11 Feb 2013 at 7:45 pm 17.Anonymous said …

    The link has been corrected, let’s get back to the story.

    The link points to an article posted by a self-described Seminary trained priest. We have the words of a Christian priest that says that the bible offers differing and incompatible accounts in Genesis. This isn’t an atheist speaking, it’s someone whose job it is to pass on “the word of Christ”. His comment must carry more weight than that of a troll such as Messenger.

    So, let’s look at how the non-theologically trained responded. It’s the Brads, the Messengers, the As of the world who reach for rationalizations and want to claim that their bible is harmonious. In doing so they contradict one of their teachers who points out that it isn’t.

    Christians, you need to explain this without resorting to red herrings, personal attacks, and other fallacies, including false appeals to fallacy.

  18. on 11 Feb 2013 at 9:13 pm 18.DPK said …

    “…reach for rationalizations and want to claim that their bible is harmonious. In doing so they contradict one of their teachers who points out that it isn’t.”

    To me, this is no different than, as someone recently pointed out, arguing whether Capt. Kirk or Capt. Picard was a “better” captain. Whether Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 agree with each other or not is like arguing whether Noah kept the elephants in the front of the boat, or the stern. Stupidity.

    The bible provides a description of creation that simply does not fit with any observable evidence. No matter what mind bending “interpretations” you give to the biblical creation myth, you cannot reconcile it with reality. What you “believe” makes no difference to the universe. It cares not one bit what is written in your magical book.

  19. on 11 Feb 2013 at 10:19 pm 19.Martin said …

    “The bible provides a description of creation that simply does not fit with any observable evidence.”

    Provide this evidence that contradicts.

  20. on 11 Feb 2013 at 10:47 pm 20.The messenger said …

    on 11 Feb 2013 at 4:16 am 6.The messenger said …
    Brother Thomas, Genesis 1 and genises 2 do not tell two diiferent creation stories.
    Nowhere in genesis 2 does it state any 2nd creation story.
    Genesis 1 states information about how god constructed the Earth.
    Genesis 2, states information about what living things that God created on the Earth.
    Genesis 2 is not a 2nd story of creation, it is another part of the creation story.

  21. on 11 Feb 2013 at 10:48 pm 21.The messenger said …

    on 11 Feb 2013 at 4:33 am 8.The messenger said …
    Thomas, God is more than just an all powerful being. He is our father, and he our creator.
    God loves us, and he wants us to love each other and him too. We can all form a relationship with God, if we chose to have faith in him and if we follow his laws and virtues.
    http://www.rwf2000.com/gifs/10-God-Man.jpg
    His law.
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torah
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Bible
    His virtues. The bible that I am referring to, is the Catholic bible.

  22. on 11 Feb 2013 at 10:50 pm 22.The messenger said …

    on 11 Feb 2013 at 4:23 am 7.The messenger said …
    My family, genesis 1 states how God constructed the Earth.
    Genesis 2, states what life forms God put on the Earth.
    These are not two different stories, as Brother Thomas idiotically states. They are both parts of the same stories.
    Stop listening to our mentally misguided brother Thomas, and start listening to the truth.

  23. on 11 Feb 2013 at 11:37 pm 23.DPK said …

    Martin, you are “persona non grata”. You don’t get to ask questions, because you have demonstrated amply that you are unwilling to engage in honest debate.
    A person who refuses to answer questions asked directly of him has no right to come here and demand answers of anyone.
    You are blackballed for being the obvious troll that you are.
    No go away, or we shall taunt you further.

  24. on 12 Feb 2013 at 12:29 am 24.Lou(DFW) said …

    20.DPK said …

    “You are blackballed for being the obvious troll that you are.”

    Well said.

  25. on 12 Feb 2013 at 12:37 am 25.A said …

    Martin,

    You are more than welcomed here. If nothing else, you upset the trolls which I find appealing.

    Let me answer for DPK since he will not. He has no evidence. Actually, until the 20th century, science denied vigorously that the universe even had a beginning. Such view were uncomfortable for science to contemplate. It was seen as a religious/philosophical view. Fast-forward 100 years, science has embraced the religious/philosophical view.

    Sagan and others come along and speak of a universe using the anthropic principle giving the universe awareness and consciousness. What do we have? The admittance that God exists without using the term. They are slowly coming around.

  26. on 12 Feb 2013 at 12:45 am 26.alex said …

    You can say that millions of atheists have converted to your bullshit religion, but it doesn’t change a damn thing, does it? Your god is still bullshit. Pour perfume on it and give it a different lighting, still bs.

  27. on 12 Feb 2013 at 1:36 am 27.s0l0m0n said …

    alex comments have no substance at all. It will be much wiser if he kick his own ass out of this site.

  28. on 12 Feb 2013 at 3:00 am 28.alex said …

    OK, I’ll leave. BTW, what’s your bullshit god’s name? What? Speak up, mistah mooslim?

  29. on 12 Feb 2013 at 3:20 am 29.Anonymous said …

    The stories of creation teach us that all things find their source in God, that we are made in God’s image, and that creation is very good. We needn’t believe the facts of the stories to believe IN the truth they carry. Facts are to be seen, measured and tested.

    This is an excellent example of the way Christians try to twist the meanings of words in order to salvage their beliefs.

    In the above quote the pastor tries to claim that even though the bible stories themselves don’t line up with the facts (i.e. they are nonsensical) that, somehow, their being full of nonsense still allows them to be “true”. Where true actually means absurd.

    Speaking of rationalizations, all those prayers that believers offer for the Pope’s health and success don’t seem to have achieved much. One hopes his successor won’t be quite so much a fan of protecting their representatives who rape little boys.

  30. on 12 Feb 2013 at 4:11 am 30.Lou(DFW) said …

    25.ASS said …

    “Martin,
    You are more than welcomed here.”

    Poor ASS, he really can’t follow.

    Martin, you are more than welcome to engage in honest discussion. But when you refuse to do so, at least you are welcomed by ASS. Misery loves company.

    “If nothing else, you upset the trolls which I find appealing.”

    Says the guy who wrote “Anony the Mouse roars in whining and complaining about a a poster, again, rather than content.”

    See, it’s more important for ASS to see his critics allegedly “upset” than it is to actually counter them with an honest reply to their questions and comments. ASS, the only thing upsetting about you is that you’re such a despicable person. And because of that, here you are, acting out (to behave badly or in a socially unacceptable often self-defeating manner especially as a means of venting painful emotions (as fear or frustration). Yes, ASS, we understand you and how it’s so frustrating for you to be unable to defend your delusion. If you weren’t such a miserable lot, I would actually have sympathy for you.

    “Let me answer for DPK since he will not.”

    Why is it that ASS is so quick to answer for someone else when he NEVER, EVER answers for himself? He thinks avoiding questions about his delusion is somehow a point for him, but when his opponents refuse to reply to his dishonest tactics, then it’s a point for HIM.

    ASS, you are more than welcome here, too. But only after you clean your shit off the chessboard and replace the pieces. When you’re able to do that, then get back to us.

  31. on 12 Feb 2013 at 4:33 am 31.SisterChromatid said …

    Would anyone even try to believe a religious creation story if they hadn’t been told they’d be saved for faith and/or tortured forever for lack of faith?

    I think not.

    The chromosome 2 fusion between humans and chimps is a slam dunk for evolution. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk

    It appears Jesus died for a metaphor– or perhaps he was a metaphor too.

  32. on 12 Feb 2013 at 7:07 am 32.Lesbian carwasher said …

    can someone make a nickname for me plz ;D?

  33. on 12 Feb 2013 at 12:27 pm 33.Martin said …

    “the bible stories themselves don’t line up with the facts”

    The facts are what? If the creation story is incorrect prove the correct sequence of events.

  34. on 12 Feb 2013 at 12:47 pm 34.Lou(DFW) said …

    23.DPK said …

    Martin, you are “persona non grata”. You don’t get to ask questions, because you have demonstrated amply that you are unwilling to engage in honest debate.
    A person who refuses to answer questions asked directly of him has no right to come here and demand answers of anyone.

  35. on 12 Feb 2013 at 12:48 pm 35.Lou(DFW) said …

    32.Lesbian carwasher said …

    “can someone make a nickname for me plz ;D?”

    Someone did. You missed it.

  36. on 12 Feb 2013 at 12:58 pm 36.Lesbian carwasher said …

    what is it then O.o?

  37. on 12 Feb 2013 at 2:28 pm 37.Lou(DFW) said …

    36.Lesbian carwasher said …

    “what is it then O.o?”

    Don’t you remember your exchange with Burp the Babeler? He called you lesbian crawler. I don’t remember if he originated it, however.

  38. on 12 Feb 2013 at 2:41 pm 38.DPK said …

    I vote for LCW…. Faster to type.
    BTW… Keep you eye on the news. Rumor has it I’m in the race for Pope.
    Wish me luck.

  39. on 12 Feb 2013 at 2:42 pm 39.Lou(DFW) said …

    38.DPK said …

    “BTW… Keep you eye on the news. Rumor has it I’m in the race for Pope.
    Wish me luck.”

    You will never beat Jerry Sandusky.

  40. on 12 Feb 2013 at 3:53 pm 40.Anonymous said …

    Martin, you are “persona non grata”. You don’t get to ask questions, because you have demonstrated amply that you are unwilling to engage in honest debate.
    A person who refuses to answer questions asked directly of him has no right to come here and demand answers of anyone.

    Add quoting out of context and cherry picking to Martin’s attempts to subvert the discussion on this blog.

    Also, let’s not forget that Martin was the one that told others not to ask question on this blog and that this blog was only for entertainment.

    He’s clearly not here for any form of honest debate.

    Jerry would make a good pope; he certainly has the requisite job experience.

  41. on 12 Feb 2013 at 5:50 pm 41.A said …

    DPK is up for Pope? Keep the children away. K knew had issues but he is sick

    Martin

    Let me answer for Mouse. He has no facts nor an alternative for origins he can support with facts.

  42. on 12 Feb 2013 at 6:00 pm 42.s0l0m0n said …

    Theists are far too advance regarding the reality of things by simply clinging to the creation theory while atheists are far backward.
    Ask them whether their ‘god’, Nature can even design & build a single species of mosquito.

  43. on 12 Feb 2013 at 7:09 pm 43.MrQ said …

    Sol, The confused one:

    Theists are far too advance regarding the reality of things by simply clinging to the creation theory while atheists are far backward.

    What about the “smart” theists that say the Theory of Evolution is (((TRUTH)))?
    Sol’s vest continues to tick. The virgins await….

  44. on 12 Feb 2013 at 7:13 pm 44.Lou(DFW) said …

    41.ASS said …

    “DPK is up for Pope? Keep the children away. K knew had issues but he is sick”

    ASS, you aren’t the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?

    “Martin

    Let me answer for Mouse. He has no facts nor an alternative for origins he can support with facts.”

    Yes, allow ASS to answer for everybody else, because he can’t answer for himself. That’s the only way he gets to play.

  45. on 12 Feb 2013 at 7:15 pm 45.Lou(DFW) said …

    42.s0l0m0n said …

    “Ask them whether their ‘god’, Nature can even design & build a single species of mosquito.”

    Ask him to specifically name in which imaginary god you believe and of which religion he is.

    ASS, here’s your chance to answer for someone else again, because he won’t.

  46. on 12 Feb 2013 at 9:18 pm 46.DPK said …

    43.Lou(DFW) said …

    41.ASS said …

    “DPK is up for Pope? Keep the children away. K knew had issues but he is sick”

    ASS, you aren’t the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?

    Maybe we should change his nickname from “Ass” to “Totally Clueless”. hahaha

  47. on 12 Feb 2013 at 10:38 pm 47.The messenger said …

    Sister 31.SisterChromatid, Jesus did not die for a metaphor.

    He died do that we can go to heaven.

    Why did you mock him with your pathetic, feeble, irrational lies?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNPoxmwLC1c

  48. on 12 Feb 2013 at 10:44 pm 48.The messenger said …

    Brother 26.alex, why do you hate Jesus so much?

    He died for you. He always taught us to love others, even if they do not love us.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.biblegateway.com%2Fpassage%2F%3Fsearch%3DMatthew%2B5%253A43-48%26version%3DNIV&ei=M8UaUfL1D46m8QSzloGABA&usg=AFQjCNFf3pdNeUq0YacQd8noBmmHAiCTMQ

  49. on 12 Feb 2013 at 10:44 pm 49.The messenger said …

    on 11 Feb 2013 at 4:33 am 8.The messenger said …
    Thomas, God is more than just an all powerful being. He is our father, and he our creator.
    God loves us, and he wants us to love each other and him too. We can all form a relationship with God, if we chose to have faith in him and if we follow his laws and virtues.
    http://www.rwf2000.com/gifs/10-God-Man.jpg
    His law.
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torah
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Bible
    His virtues. The bible that I am referring to, is the Catholic bible.
    .

  50. on 12 Feb 2013 at 10:45 pm 50.The messenger said …

    on 11 Feb 2013 at 10:50 pm 22.The messenger said …
    on 11 Feb 2013 at 4:23 am 7.The messenger said …
    My family, genesis 1 states how God constructed the Earth.
    Genesis 2, states what life forms God put on the Earth.
    These are not two different stories, as Brother Thomas idiotically states. They are both parts of the same stories.
    Stop listening to our mentally misguided brother Thomas, and start listening to the truth.

  51. on 12 Feb 2013 at 11:43 pm 51.Anon said …

    It’s simple, christards like The messenger and s0l0m0n are just fucked up in the head.

  52. on 12 Feb 2013 at 11:45 pm 52.Anonymous said …

    It’s simple, christards like The messenger and s0l0m0n are just fucked up in the head.

  53. on 13 Feb 2013 at 1:22 am 53.s0l0m0n said …

    All atheists know is just to rant “fucked up in the head” but without any substance.

  54. on 13 Feb 2013 at 2:35 am 54.The messenger said …

    Brothers, let md introduce to you the famous stupid talking parrot. his mame is “52.Anonymous the Ridiculous”.

  55. on 13 Feb 2013 at 2:36 am 55.The messenger said …

    Brothers, let me introduce to you the famous stupid talking parrot. His name is “52.Anonymous the Ridiculous”.

  56. on 13 Feb 2013 at 2:42 am 56.s0l0m0n said …

    The atheists are still struggling to refute the creation theory which they will not able while the simple creation theory is full proof all along and will always be.

  57. on 13 Feb 2013 at 2:45 am 57.s0l0m0n said …

    The messenger,

    God is not your biological nor your spiritual father. God is God and your father is your father. That is clear cut.Don’t sway the people from the right path.

  58. on 13 Feb 2013 at 2:54 am 58.The messenger said …

    Brother 51.Anon, I would never wish to steal your job as the online idiot.

  59. on 13 Feb 2013 at 2:55 am 59.s0l0m0n said …

    The atheist only made up theories on the existence of beings that have existed or being created. Lets see how do they made up the story from beings that have never been created or existed.This is a doctrine challenge.

  60. on 13 Feb 2013 at 5:27 am 60.Lesbian carwasher said …

    if it never existed then athiests dont make up theories…
    how hard is that to understand O.o?

  61. on 13 Feb 2013 at 5:29 am 61.Lesbian carwasher said …

    42.s0l0m0n said …
    Theists are far too advance regarding the reality of things by simply clinging to the creation theory while atheists are far backward.
    Ask them whether their ‘god’, Nature can even design & build a single species of mosquito.

    you realise that many species of mosquito have evolved in the american subways,right?

  62. on 13 Feb 2013 at 6:25 am 62.s0l0m0n said …

    Nothing can support the evolution theory. Creation theory yes, like the car manufacturing assembly line. Have anyone witness a mercedes benz evolved into a BMW?

  63. on 13 Feb 2013 at 6:32 am 63.s0l0m0n said …

    “if it never existed then athiests dont make up theories…”

    In other words atheists doesn’t even know the essence of existence, until it exists then they try to comment/manipulate. Theists instead have known the essence of existence even though that thing/being haven’t existed.

    It’s easy to fool the condemned lots.

  64. on 13 Feb 2013 at 6:38 am 64.The messenger said …

    Brother 57.s0l0m0n, God is everyone’s father.

    He created everyone, and he loves us and cares for us.

    He is our father; not by biology, but by soul. He created our bobbies and souls, and he put our souls into our bodies.

    He is our father, he loves us and guides us an the path of righteousness, through Judaism and Christianity. NOT By Islam.

  65. on 13 Feb 2013 at 6:39 am 65.The messenger said …

    In comment 62 I ment to type the word “bodies”, not bobbies. The spell chech changed it.

  66. on 13 Feb 2013 at 6:48 am 66.The messenger said …

    Brother 57.s0l0m0n, here are some of the reasons that I am against Islam. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks
    They murdered them in the name of Islam. And because the Islamic countries were greedy with their oil.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban_treatment_of_women
    They beat and murder innocent wemon in the name of thier false holy law.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2012/10/09/Production/Daily/A-Section/Images/APTOPIX_Pakistan-0dfcd.jpg
    They shot this young school girl in the name of Islamic law, just because she wants to go to school.

  67. on 13 Feb 2013 at 7:00 am 67.The messenger said …

    Brother 57.s0l0m0n, here are some of the reasons that I am against Islam. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks
    They murdered them in the name of Islam. And because the Islamic countries were greedy with their oil.
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban_treatment_of_women
    They beat and murder innocent wemon in the name of thier false holy law.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-
    2019/WashingtonPost/2012/10/09/Production/Daily/A-Section/Images/APTOPIX_Pakistan-0dfcd.jpg
    They shot this young school girl in the name of Islamic law, just because she wants to go to school.

  68. on 13 Feb 2013 at 7:01 am 68.The messenger said …

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Taliban_execute_Zarmeena_in_Kabul_in1999_RAWA.jpg
    They shot this young woman because she defended her self when her husband was beating her.
    She has 7 children. Now those kids will grow up without a mother because these Islamic abominations murdered her.

  69. on 13 Feb 2013 at 8:26 am 69.s0l0m0n said …

    Brother messenger,

    I miss this previously.

    “Brother 51.Anon, I would never wish to steal your job as the online idiot.”

    Whaaaa…..ka….ka…ka….

  70. on 13 Feb 2013 at 8:34 am 70.s0l0m0n said …

    MrQ,

    “What about the “smart” theists that say the Theory of Evolution is (((TRUTH)))?”

    I’am not responsible for what other theists say. I have my own belief system.You can ask them yourself.

  71. on 13 Feb 2013 at 8:54 am 71.Severin said …

    #33
    “The facts are what? If the creation story is incorrect prove the correct sequence of events.”

    If the abiogenesis and evolution story are incorrect, why don’t you prove the correct sequence of events or creation story?

    Describe mechanism of creation and tell us approximate time when it happened, tht is all, for beginning.

  72. on 13 Feb 2013 at 9:01 am 72.Severin said …

    … of creation story?

  73. on 13 Feb 2013 at 9:09 am 73.Lesbian carwasher said …

    Yes, i would also like to see how “God” made every thing, and when

  74. on 13 Feb 2013 at 10:33 am 74.Martin said …

    Severin is admitting they have no evidence for their origin theories?

    No alien seeding evidence?(Crick)

  75. on 13 Feb 2013 at 11:39 am 75.Lou(DFW) said …

    DPK said …

    Martin, you are “persona non grata”. You don’t get to ask questions, because you have demonstrated amply that you are unwilling to engage in honest debate.
    A person who refuses to answer questions asked directly of him has no right to come here and demand answers of anyone.

  76. on 13 Feb 2013 at 11:46 am 76.Lou(DFW) said …

    71.Severin said …

    “If the abiogenesis and evolution story are incorrect, why don’t you prove the correct sequence of events or creation story?

    Describe mechanism of creation and tell us approximate time when it happened, tht is all, for beginning.”

    Sev, please do not get into another long, convoluted debate with them about creation and origins. All they are going to do is demand that you prove this and that about NON-THEOLOGICAL ideas that are irrelevant to god and religion, and to this particular topic. Furthermore, this is not the place for it.

    Besides that, you KNOW that ASS/Mitch/Martin is NEVER going to engage in an honest discussion.

  77. on 13 Feb 2013 at 11:47 am 77.Lou(DFW) said …

    73.Lesbian carwasher said …

    “Yes, i would also like to see how “God” made every thing, and when”

    Yes, we would, but it didn’t happen. So forget it.

  78. on 13 Feb 2013 at 11:49 am 78.Lou(DFW) said …

    70.s0l0m0n said …

    “I have my own belief system.”

    And that’s all you have – a belief system. Thank you for at least admitting that much.

  79. on 13 Feb 2013 at 12:21 pm 79.Curmudgeon said …

    This is what Severin and others do They mock Intelligent Design and yet provide no other option. Do what Lou says Severin. Run all posts by him first.

  80. on 13 Feb 2013 at 12:22 pm 80.Lesbian carwasher said …

    wait…
    Lou WANTS to have no debates?
    wheres the fun in that ;D?

  81. on 13 Feb 2013 at 12:46 pm 81.s0l0m0n said …

    66.The messenger,

    Those post are not the teachings of the true religion.

  82. on 13 Feb 2013 at 12:53 pm 82.s0l0m0n said …

    Lesbian carwasher ,

    “Yes, i would also like to see how “God” made every thing, and when”

    So you want to know how God made everything.
    It’s purely simple.
    He just need to say “be it” and there it is and it is there by the time God said it.

    Whaaaaa…ka…ka…ka…

  83. on 13 Feb 2013 at 2:43 pm 83.Lou(DFW) said …

    79.Crum, in another lie said …

    “This is what Severin and others do They mock Intelligent Design and yet provide no other option.”

    Of course he and other did that here over and over. And when they do, you and our ilk succeed in providing a diversion from the fact that you don’t have any evidence for you imaginary god.

  84. on 13 Feb 2013 at 2:46 pm 84.Lou(DFW) said …

    80.Lesbian carwasher said …

    “Lou WANTS to have no debates?
    wheres the fun in that ;D?”

    Wrong. I want honest debates about god and religion, not origin, evolution, etc.

    1. The regular theists here are not capable of honest debate. They wont even answer a direct question about their imaginary god nor religion.

    2. This isn’t the place for debates about evolution and other off-topic debates.

  85. on 13 Feb 2013 at 2:47 pm 85.Lou(DFW) said …

    81.Lou(DFW) said …

    Correction: …your ilk…

  86. on 13 Feb 2013 at 7:14 pm 86.Severin said …

    #74
    “Severin is admitting they have no evidence for their origin theories?”

    Not for abiogenesis. Evolution is proved, I have nothing to add.

    Now you: how and when did god create life?
    Dirt/dust + inhaling god’s saliva through Adam’s nostrils, or some ther way and time?

    And, of course, which god did it?

    If you don’t know it, please admit it, or ask Solomon.

    If you don’t have any answers, you are free to fuck off from here.

  87. on 13 Feb 2013 at 7:23 pm 87.Severin said …

    #79
    “This is what Severin and others do They mock Intelligent Design and yet provide no other option.”

    Can’t you live without lying?

    I exposed my opinon about 100 times on these pages.
    In short:
    Matter and energy are not created, but exist and change their form according to natural laws.
    Live started some 3 billion years ago on earth spontaniously, following laws of chemistry. “Chance” did not play significant role in beginning of life. Time did.
    First life evolved to the present exyent following the rules of evolution.

    In your helplessness, what else can you do but lie?

    Liar!

  88. on 13 Feb 2013 at 11:05 pm 88.Lou (DFW) said …

    87.Severin said …

    “First life evolved to the present exyent following the rules of evolution.”

    Sev, Sev, Sev – of course he’s a liar, that’s all he has. But every time you comment as you did above he’s going to demand that you “prove it.” So why get dragged into his game again?

  89. on 14 Feb 2013 at 12:31 am 89.s0l0m0n said …

    Provide fossil proofs of the gradual transition from ape to men that must have existed in abundance if evolution was true.

    Atheists are ((((LIARS)))).

  90. on 14 Feb 2013 at 2:22 am 90.s0l0m0n said …

    There must be a first design of things before it might evolute.

    Now who creates the first design?

    I bet the atheists won’t answer coz’ they didn’t have the answer.

  91. on 14 Feb 2013 at 3:15 am 91.The messenger said …

    Brather 90.s0l0m0n, correct.

  92. on 14 Feb 2013 at 3:27 am 92.A said …

    “I exposed my opinon about 100 times on these pages.”

    And I have told you, we don’t care about your opinion, only what you can prove.

    Now stop ticking off Thelma-Lou and share with us what you can prove using Thelma Rules.

    Example>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    “Live started some 3 billion years ago on earth spontaniously, following laws of chemistry. “Chance” did not play significant role in beginning of life. Time did. First life evolved to the present exyent following the rules of evolution.”

    Proof Chance did not play a role. Proof Time did. Prove the laws of Chemistry existed. Prove life evolved from non-living matter.

  93. on 14 Feb 2013 at 4:35 am 93.DPK said …

    There must be a first design of things before it might evolute.
    Now who creates the first design?

    If there is a “who” to create the “first design”, then it isn’t the first design, is it?

  94. on 14 Feb 2013 at 7:00 am 94.s0l0m0n said …

    DPK,

    Don’t try to twist the meaning of my word. The word ‘things’ means creations like YOU or the APE or other beings. It didn’t mean the first “thing”(number 1) or “being” that is designed you ((((TWISTER)))).

    Now get back to the question….

    Who creates the first design of things?

    The existence of things must first start with the things itself eg. mosquito.It doesn’t start with evolution first.Evolution might not happen without the existence of the ‘thing’.

  95. on 14 Feb 2013 at 7:12 am 95.s0l0m0n said …

    Pheeeww….

    The atheists are losing the debate.
    Can’t even give a decent answer.

  96. on 14 Feb 2013 at 7:13 am 96.s0l0m0n said …

    Atheists….

    You better raise your white flag..

  97. on 14 Feb 2013 at 7:26 am 97.Lesbian carwasher said …

    90.s0l0m0n said …

    There must be a first design of things before it might evolute.

    Now who creates the first design?

    I bet the atheists won’t answer coz’ they didn’t have the answer.

    who made god?

  98. on 14 Feb 2013 at 8:32 am 98.s0l0m0n said …

    In a shoddy toy factory the manufacturer of the toy knows exactly the design and build of the toy.
    Suddenly the toy says….”Nobody build me…”
    Then the toy eagerly explain her own existence.
    “I evolved from a toy ape”…..???

    Is that exactly what most atheists meant?

  99. on 14 Feb 2013 at 8:38 am 99.s0l0m0n said …

    Lesbian carwasher,

    Answer my question first before you create another question.

    Who create the first design of things?

    “who made god?”

    That’s chicken feed…

    God can’t be made coz’ he’s equivalent to ((((NOTHING)))).

    Whaaaaa…ka…ka…ka…

  100. on 14 Feb 2013 at 8:55 am 100.s0l0m0n said …

    The atheists beliefs are gradually diminishing.That’s a good sign.

  101. on 14 Feb 2013 at 10:03 am 101.Lesbian carwasher said …

    If god is nothing, then he doesnt exist

    you rather stupidly said that god is imaginary -__-

    and no, toys do not evolve for you see, they are not made of cells and hence have no DNA

    And yes, we did evolve, not from your stereotypical “APE” but from a simpler organism that from then on came from a simpler organism.

  102. on 14 Feb 2013 at 10:04 am 102.Lesbian carwasher said …

    and wtf does wha ka ka ka mean?

    are you planning to blow up my house to get virgins? O.o

  103. on 14 Feb 2013 at 10:47 am 103.alex said …

    Sheep sound when s0l does his thing.

  104. on 14 Feb 2013 at 12:16 pm 104.s0l0m0n said …

    “If god is nothing, then he doesnt exist”

    I didn’t say God is nothing.

    I said God is equivalent to nothing.
    Therefore he exists.

    “and wtf does wha ka ka ka mean?”
    Whaaaa….ka…ka…ka…is my patented laugh.

    “And yes, we did evolve, not from your stereotypical “APE” but from a simpler organism that from then on came from a simpler organism.”

    After failing to get fossil proofs of the gradual transition from ape to men that must have existed in abundance if evolution was true the atheists took an abrupt about turn claiming they evolve from simpler organism. After this there’s no doubt they will change their claim without shame when refuted.

    Always changing stories/claims. No consistencies at all. They are registered ((((LIARS)))).

  105. on 14 Feb 2013 at 12:31 pm 105.Lou(DFW) said …

    94.s0l0m0n said …

    “Don’t try to twist the meaning of my word. The word ‘things’ means creations like YOU or the APE or other beings. It didn’t mean the first “thing”(number 1) or “being” that is designed you ((((TWISTER)))).”

    LOL! Then using your convoluted logic and examples, the first “thing” (number 1) (or US – humans), who designed and created cars (your example) didn’t require a creator/designer because the “existence of things must first start with the things itself eg.” humans.

    There you have it. According to sOlOmOn-logic, we humans didn’t require a creator because we are the “first “thing”(number 1).”

    Furthermore, using his own example of humans making cars as “evidence” (LOL!) of intelligent design wherein the designer/creator (us) is obviously visible and known to EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THE PLANET, he says the same thing for his imaginary god creator (whom he won’t admit in which one he believes) whom he imagines created humans and the universe.

    Oh yes, he is a mass of conflicting ideas and beliefs. No wonder they hate and fight so much, embrace violence, and blow-up themselves.

  106. on 14 Feb 2013 at 12:32 pm 106.Lou(DFW) said …

    100.s0l0m0n said …

    “The atheists beliefs are gradually diminishing.That’s a good sign.”

    You lying moron, disbelief, BY DEFINITION, is not belief.

  107. on 14 Feb 2013 at 12:33 pm 107.Lou(DFW) said …

    104.s0l0m0n said …

    “Whaaaa….ka…ka…ka…is my patented laugh.”

    Yes, it’s patently absurd, like the laugh of a nut – and that’s no joke.

  108. on 14 Feb 2013 at 12:40 pm 108.Lou(DFW) said …

    104.s0l0m0n said …

    “Always changing stories/claims. No consistencies at all. They are registered ((((LIARS)))).”

    Says the idiot who lies about evolution when lying about an alleged connection between evolution and disbelief in his imaginary god – one whom he is afraid to admit in believing while condemning those who don’t believe in it, even though they can’t know who it is because of his lack of admission.

    Such is the sad mind of a deluded theist. But, at least it demonstrates that theists, no matter in which imaginary god they believe, have absolutely nothing but lies to support their delusion.

  109. on 14 Feb 2013 at 2:49 pm 109.Anonymous said …

    Great. Now can we please stop discussing evolution and get back to the topic of this post?

  110. on 14 Feb 2013 at 3:52 pm 110.DPK said …

    Actually….
    The topic was “How Christians (and presumably, other religious nuts, like solomon) Rationalize Their Delusions”.

    Seems like the theists have made a pretty good presentation of exactly that here… so, what’s to discuss?

    I mean, we get to read jems like this:

    “So you want to know how God made everything.
    It’s purely simple.
    He just need to say “be it” and there it is and it is there by the time God said it.”

    yuk yuk yuk … that’s my “patented laugh”. I like it because it ridicules and mocks you at the same time.

  111. on 14 Feb 2013 at 4:36 pm 111.Lou(DFW) said …

    82.s0l0m0n said …

    “He just need to say “be it” and there it is and it is there by the time God said it.”

    LOL! Jeanie need only blink and Samantha wiggled her nose. How do you know god spoke English?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVmdCAT7Rc8

  112. on 14 Feb 2013 at 7:27 pm 112.s0l0m0n said …

    Lou(DFW),

    If I were to name the award winning candidate for the cheapest old lousy stupid tricks then it will goes to you, you scum.

    “LOL! Then using your convoluted logic and examples, the first “thing” (number 1) (or US – humans), who designed and created cars (your example) didn’t require a creator/designer because the “existence of things must first start with the things itself eg.” humans.”

    These are not my convoluted logic. These are your own lousy words.

    First…Who says the first “thing” (number 1) is us-Humans?I didn’t say that. It’s you who said that.

    When I said “The existence of things must first start with the things itself eg. mosquito.” I’am saying this in the context of demonstrating something that exists should start with the creation of that thing, not starting with evolvement, coz’ at that instant there’s nothing to be evolved.

    Everyone can spot it. You on the other hand twist it as if it’s me who said that the existence of human doesn’t require a creator coz’ it should first start with the human itself.

    Even though the existence of human should start with the human itself(as you put it) I didn’t even say it doesn’t require a creator.

    Now your tricks are busted.

  113. on 14 Feb 2013 at 7:34 pm 113.s0l0m0n said …

    Lou(DFW),

    “LOL! Jeanie need only blink and Samantha wiggled
    her nose. How do you know god spoke English?”

    Every language originate from God.Even the animals language…Meow…Meow….So there’s no fuss in what language God should speak.

  114. on 14 Feb 2013 at 7:38 pm 114.s0l0m0n said …

    Theists just can’t get over believers ingenuity.

  115. on 14 Feb 2013 at 7:41 pm 115.s0l0m0n said …

    Sorry ATheists just can’t get over believers ingenuity.

  116. on 14 Feb 2013 at 11:42 pm 116.DPK said …

    94.s0l0m0n said …
    “Don’t try to twist the meaning of my word. The word ‘things’ means creations like YOU or the APE or other beings. It didn’t mean the first “thing”(number 1) or “being” that is designed you ((((TWISTER)))).”

    No one needs to “twist” the meaning of your words. They are plenty twisted all by themselves. Here is the thing Solomon, or should we call you Mohammed, as I’m sure it’s in your name somewhere. You are a total nut job. Carry on.

  117. on 15 Feb 2013 at 1:26 am 117.s0l0m0n said …

    Lou(DFW)

    ” one whom he is afraid to admit in believing while condemning those who don’t believe in it, even though they can’t know who it is because of his lack of admission.”

    Even without knowing the real identity of God,one could spot the truth brought about by God, but the atheists lots choose to ignore or sway themselves from the right path.They are indeed the inhabitants of ((((HELL)))).

  118. on 15 Feb 2013 at 2:49 am 118.alex said …

    s0l0m0n Says:

    September 22nd, 2011 at 16:37
    Why do you say I’am not Muslim. You don’t know much about religion don’t you?

    http://atheistweb.org/qotd/1633

    the dipshit is a freaking mooslim. run, grab your pork and your virgins. the motherfucker is fina blow up your shit.

  119. on 15 Feb 2013 at 2:55 am 119.alex said …

    s0l0m0n
    January 10, 2012 at 2:04 pm (UTC -6) Link to this comment
    Reply
    Aquaria,

    It’s crystal clear that you will inherit ((((HELL)))).
    If you think your IQ is good enough, then try to make a blob of clay walk on it’s belly.To (((HELL))) you could.There you are,just a fuckin’ piece of shit.

    http://freethoughtblogs.com/axp/2011/12/31/so-many-claims-so-little-no-support/

    s0l0m0n, you got a potty mouth.

  120. on 15 Feb 2013 at 7:02 am 120.Lesbain carwasher said …

    im going to stick with the topic this time ;D

    okai here it is…

    athiests only believe in what has valid evidence.

    religous people believe in stuff that has no evidence, so they have to rationalize to make it make sense to them, yet look like rubbish to every one else…

    does this look correct?

  121. on 15 Feb 2013 at 7:11 am 121.Lesbain carwasher said …

    Solomon said
    “After failing to get fossil proofs of the gradual transition from ape to men that must have existed in abundance if evolution was true the atheists took an abrupt about turn claiming they evolve from simpler organism. After this there’s no doubt they will change their claim without shame when refuted.”

    you mean the dozens of fossil and preserved remains that show a transition of ape like beings to humans?
    I never changed my claim, nor did any one…

  122. on 15 Feb 2013 at 7:15 am 122.s0l0m0n said …

    Lesbain carwasher,

    “athiests only believe in what has valid evidence.”

    Then what evidence do you have that make you alive while the stone is “dead”?

    You are alive because there is a rokh(some form of energy) inside you but you can’t find evidence to prove it while reasoning proofs that it is inside you because you are alive.

    Belief is sufficient thru’ reasoning.
    Reasoning is sufficient evidence.

    Don’t try to bluff.

  123. on 15 Feb 2013 at 7:44 am 123.s0l0m0n said …

    Lesbain carwasher,

    “I never changed my claim, nor did any one…”

    You can just simply rant anything as long as your mouth can speak without substance.

    First I didn’t say YOU change your claim, I presumed the general atheists population, and also I didn’t say they change their claim yet, but I say they “will” change their claim.
    See…how the believers are very careful with their words. Their words are perfect…(controlled by God).

    “you mean the dozens of fossil and preserved remains that show a transition of ape like beings to humans?”

    Ape or humans doesn’t arrive in dozens, they arrive in millions.Evolution is a ((((HOAX))). No proofs.

    Atheists are doomed.

  124. on 15 Feb 2013 at 11:12 am 124.Lesbian carwasher said …

    umm…no i have no spiritual soul

    im “different” to a rock, as i am made of cells, and electrical impulses control my muscles and organs, which all together mixed with my brain which is an advanced organic computer, allows me to “live”, move and do anything i need to.

    if you honestly cannot believe this, i would advise you to read a basic biology book or the how my body works collection

  125. on 15 Feb 2013 at 11:18 am 125.Lesbian carwasher said …

    Solomon said
    “Ape or humans doesn’t arrive in dozens, they arrive in millions.Evolution is a ((((HOAX))). No proofs.

    See…how the believers are very careful with their words. Their words are perfect…(controlled by God).”

    so you block out what evidence you have to make your belief O.o? and by dozens, i simply meant that there is evidence..not literaly 12-24-36- ect fossils.

    and to the second part, there is no such thing as perfect, nothing can reach “perfection” as improvement is always possible, also, dont you find it sad that you are being controlled? much like a puppet would be controlled by its puppeteer?

  126. on 15 Feb 2013 at 11:42 am 126.Lou(DFW) said …

    120.Lesbain carwasher said …

    “athiests only believe in what has valid evidence.”

    No, that’s not what atheist means.

    Atheist is only an unnecessary label. It’s not a thing, philosophy, worldview, religion, lifestyle, etc. etc., etc.

    The label “atheist” has no more relevance than does aleprechaunist or aphilatelist.

    It’s ridiculous that people must be labeled for disbelief in something that doesn’t exist – such as imaginary god or imaginary leprechauns, or for not being a stamp collector.

    Think about how many adjectives would be required to describe and characterize every single thing in which we don’t believe, think about, or do.

    When a doctor diagnoses someone who has a disease or illness, does he list every single one that you DON’T have? No, of course not. He only tells you what your illness or disease is. It’s the same thing with being a theist. A label is not required for not being something, but only FOR being something.

  127. on 15 Feb 2013 at 11:46 am 127.Lou(DFW) said …

    117.s0l0m0n said …

    “Even without knowing the real identity of God…”

    There you have it – s0l0m0n doesn’t know the real identity of god. ‘Nuff said.

  128. on 15 Feb 2013 at 11:48 am 128.Lou(DFW) said …

    123.s0l0m0n said …

    …this and that about evolution and atheists, but he never, ever talks about his imaginary sky-daddy, well, except to say that he doesn’t know who he is.

  129. on 15 Feb 2013 at 12:44 pm 129.Ben said …

    “There you have it – s0l0m0n doesn’t know the real identity of god. ‘Nuff said.”

    Will u now get a life?

  130. on 15 Feb 2013 at 12:47 pm 130.Ben said …

    “athiests only believe in what has valid evidence.”

    Absolutely untrue. Macroevolution has next to zero proof yet they believe. Abiogenesis has next to zero proof but they believe.

    Ask to provide proof and you will get next to zero answers but it is their religion.

  131. on 15 Feb 2013 at 12:50 pm 131.Ben said …

    “you mean the dozens of fossil and preserved remains that show a transition of ape like beings to humans?”

    LC, This I got to see!!!!!! Could you provide me the sources to these dozens of transitional fossils?

  132. on 15 Feb 2013 at 1:08 pm 132.alex said …

    “Macroevolution has next to zero proof yet they believe. Abiogenesis has next to zero proof but they believe.”

    wrong on both counts. atheist is not a religion. no bible, no beliefs, no political affiliation, no bullcrap. sure, some atheists are liberals, some believe in ufos, but that’s a side show.

    atheists don’t believe in your bs god, period. stop the nonsense.

  133. on 15 Feb 2013 at 1:19 pm 133.s0l0m0n said …

    Bravo….!!!! Ben….Bravo….!!!

  134. on 15 Feb 2013 at 1:23 pm 134.Lesbian carwasher said …

    Exactly, athiests are not in a religion, more so, its the lack of religion.

    And for the fossils?
    try google, ect

  135. on 15 Feb 2013 at 1:25 pm 135.Lesbian carwasher said …

    And for the first cell thingy

    cells are made of atoms, so basic logic dictates that if by sheer luck, some atoms are stuck together, it makes a cell.

    makes more sense then god made everything and defied all logic and laws of chemistry, physics ect

  136. on 15 Feb 2013 at 1:26 pm 136.s0l0m0n said …

    alex is out of argument as well as his other atheists friends.Looks like they are gettin’ shaky with what they belief. That’s a good sign.Don’t worry.You all are welcomed to the theists club.

  137. on 15 Feb 2013 at 1:48 pm 137.Anonymous said …

    Um, LCW, Ben is another sock-puppet for Martin who has been declared persona non grata. Note how Ben pops up to continue to try to derail the thread now that his other identities have been embarrassed into silence.

    Please don’t encourage him in his diversions.

  138. on 15 Feb 2013 at 1:50 pm 138.Lou(DFW) said …

    129.Has-Ben said …

    “Will u now get a life?”

    Yes, everybody, let’s all “get a life.”

    Step one – believe in imaginary god for which there is absolutely no evidence.

    Step two – go online to blogs and forums used for discussion about god and religion, but then argue about evolution, but not about your imaginary god delusion.

    Step three – lie about people who don’t share your delusion.

    Step four – then back-slap, fluff, and congratulate yourself using various aliases.

  139. on 15 Feb 2013 at 1:53 pm 139.Lou(DFW) said …

    133.Lesbian carwasher said …

    “And for the fossils?”

    Would you please try to avoid arguments about fossils?

    They’re irrelevant to the subject.

  140. on 15 Feb 2013 at 1:55 pm 140.Lou(DFW) said …

    134.Lesbian carwasher said …

    “And for the first cell thingy”

    Ditto for “first cell thingy.”

    All of that is a diversion that theists here use to avoid facing the FACT that they don’t have any evidence for their imaginary god.

  141. on 15 Feb 2013 at 2:47 pm 141.Tracker said …

    Transitional fossils that show ape-like beings becoming man?
    Quoting Earthhistoy.org:

    “The evidence reviewed so far indicates (1) that there has always been a wide anatomical gap between apes and humans, notwithstanding that apes and humans have each been continually evolving, and (2) that the discontinuity corresponds with the appearance of Homo fossils around ‘2 million years ago’.”

    In other words, no fossil record exists.

  142. on 15 Feb 2013 at 2:49 pm 142.Anonymous said …

    On rationalizations, Pope Benedict XVI has been busy showing us the hypocrisy of religion plus showing us that he trusts science over prayer.

    When it suits him, he eschewed modern technology “Technological answers often seem the easiest, even to great human questions…”. Yet, it’s been revealed that not only did he secretly have a pacemaker, but he secretly had an operation to have the battery replaced a scant three months ago.

    So much for god’s plan; for his personal needs the Pope turned to modern technology. So much for prayer; rather than ask his sheeple to demonstrate the power of prayer, the pope plumps for the guaranteed answer – science.

    How do the faithful explain away the Pope’s actions?

  143. on 15 Feb 2013 at 2:50 pm 143.Suh said …

    There does not exist any fossil record supporting man’s ancestry of the great ape or any other ape-like creature. What does exist is some great drawings and vivid imaginations.

  144. on 15 Feb 2013 at 2:53 pm 144.Lesbian carwasher said …

    Another puppet i assume?

    Have we ever got any answers from the theists on this blog, lou? just wondering ;D

  145. on 15 Feb 2013 at 3:01 pm 145.A said …

    Anonymous has been declared persona non grata. He is a troll bent on controlling the conversation. Please do not engage his OCD on the Pope or his diversions on changing the subject from the topic at hand brought to us by the Carwasher.

    Carwasher, Thelma-Lou has made it quite we don’t care about your opinion, only about what you can prove. Where is you proof we evolved from some form of ape? We don’t want google cop-outs, if you believe you should be able to defend.

    Oh, Carwaher everyone on the site is a puppet. It is a grand scheme by 2 billion people to keep you off-guard. Now…..we have that cleared up, we can stop with that diversion.

  146. on 15 Feb 2013 at 3:08 pm 146.Anonymous said …

    Well, Lou and can answer for himself but most of the time when theists do answer, the sock-brigade descends and tries to drown out their responses with their favorite diversions: personal insults, origins, ethics, or evolution.

    If that fails “they” plainly tell the theists to post elsewhere using a variety of excuses. For example, that they won’t get treated fairly, that no-one will believe them, that they question has been answered and so on. Martin’s latest spin on that front was that this blog was “entertainment”.

    Go back and see for yourself. You can tell when a good point has been made as the horde descend intent on derailing the conversation.

  147. on 15 Feb 2013 at 3:12 pm 147.Anonymous said …

    LCW, oh I forgot to add that the other favorite diversion is aping the arguments that have been used to discredit them. :)

  148. on 15 Feb 2013 at 3:41 pm 148.Kyle said …

    You all keep arguing but are not saying anything. Here I have an answer for you all, I want you to open your mind and accept Jeasus as your lord and savior and watch how things change in your life, that is all the proof you need. Faith is what you need, Doubt is Satan’s tool.

  149. on 15 Feb 2013 at 3:54 pm 149.s0l0m0n said …

    “There does not exist any fossil record supporting man’s ancestry of the great ape or any other ape-like creature. What does exist is some great drawings and vivid imaginations.”

    and….

    ” Where is you proof we evolved from some form of ape? We don’t want google cop-outs, if you believe you should be able to defend.”

    (((((BRAVO))))) Suh….!!!

    (((((BRAVO))))) A….!!!

  150. on 15 Feb 2013 at 3:58 pm 150.s0l0m0n said …

    Kyle,

    I have to turn down your offer. Jesus is not God. He’s just a special man to God.

  151. on 15 Feb 2013 at 4:19 pm 151.Kyle said …

    im sorry but i am not gonna listen to someone who thinks if they kill themselves and a bunch of people with them they get into heaven with 72 virgins… complete nonsense

  152. on 15 Feb 2013 at 4:28 pm 152.Lou(DFW) said …

    151.Kyle said …

    “im sorry but i am not gonna listen to someone who thinks if they kill themselves and a bunch of people with them they get into heaven with 72 virgins… complete nonsense”

    I LOVE IT! The deluded are arguing about which of their delusions are not a delusion.

  153. on 15 Feb 2013 at 4:33 pm 153.Kyle said …

    No not arguing but you however are an ignorent person who feeds on drama like a female

  154. on 15 Feb 2013 at 4:38 pm 154.Lou(DFW) said …

    145.ASS said …

    “Please do not engage his OCD on the Pope or his diversions on changing the subject from the topic at hand…”

    Right, let’s don’t discuss the pope, the leader of one of the largest religions in the world. Instead, let’s argue about science on a blog that’s about imaginary god and religion. In that way the theists here can avoid defending the fact that there’s absolutely no evidence for their imaginary god.

    “…brought to us by the Carwasher.”

    Show us, liar.

  155. on 15 Feb 2013 at 4:39 pm 155.Lou(DFW) said …

    153.Kyle said …

    “No not arguing but you however are an ignorent person who feeds on drama like a female”

    Says somebody who, in effect, says capt kirk is a better capt than picard.

  156. on 15 Feb 2013 at 4:45 pm 156.Kyle said …

    you can not even mention cathlics because they are even more diluded than athiests they go completely against the book they preach from

  157. on 15 Feb 2013 at 4:47 pm 157.Kyle said …

    lol fuck yeah captin kirk is better he makes captin piccard look like a neardy pussy

  158. on 15 Feb 2013 at 4:49 pm 158.Lou(DFW) said …

    150.s0l0m0n said …

    “Jesus is not God. He’s just a special man to God.”

    He’s special to your imaginary god, but not to you?

  159. on 15 Feb 2013 at 4:51 pm 159.Kyle said …

    what so now you go back to someone else your not only a drama queen now your a quitter

  160. on 15 Feb 2013 at 4:52 pm 160.Lou(DFW) said …

    156.Kyle said …

    “you can not even mention cathlics because they are even more diluded than athiests they go completely against the book they preach from”

    First, please explain how “athiests” are “diluded.”

    Next, you are confusing hypocrisy with delusion.

  161. on 15 Feb 2013 at 4:56 pm 161.Curmudgeon said …

    Kyle,

    That was hilarious. I never considered Lou might be female.

  162. on 15 Feb 2013 at 4:56 pm 162.Lou(DFW) said …

    159.Kyle said …

    “what so now you go back to someone else your not only a drama queen now your a quitter”

    There’s not much left to say about you and your delusion. You very clearly demonstrated all that can be said about you.

  163. on 15 Feb 2013 at 5:02 pm 163.Kyle said …

    Atiests are deluded because they actually think they are in control of their lives and will kick and scream till they are blue in the face trying to prove it. And my responses are strong and yours are weak enjoy hell loser

  164. on 15 Feb 2013 at 5:03 pm 164.Kyle said …

    Why dont you copy and paste this too you little bitch

  165. on 15 Feb 2013 at 5:04 pm 165.Kyle said …

    Lou(DFW) said…
    Waaaaaaaaaaaah Mommy someone called me a bitch online WAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

  166. on 15 Feb 2013 at 5:09 pm 166.Kyle said …

    Let me ask you Lou what do you do for a living

  167. on 15 Feb 2013 at 5:14 pm 167.Kyle said …

    Do you have a good homelife?

  168. on 15 Feb 2013 at 5:17 pm 168.Lou(DFW) said …

    163.Kyle said …

    “Atiests are deluded because they actually think they are in control of their lives…”

    Why do you think that? Disbelief in imaginary god neither means nor implies any such thing.

  169. on 15 Feb 2013 at 5:18 pm 169.Lou(DFW) said …

    166.Kyle said …

    “Let me ask you Lou what do you do for a living”

    OK, you have my permission. Please proceed.

  170. on 15 Feb 2013 at 5:23 pm 170.Kyle said …

    Do you have schizophrenia because now you are making no sense at all

  171. on 15 Feb 2013 at 5:30 pm 171.Kyle said …

    come on man im just looking for a valid point i am a logical person just say something that shows me you have a glimmer of intelligence

  172. on 15 Feb 2013 at 5:31 pm 172.Lou(DFW) said …

    161.Crum said …

    “I never considered Lou might be female.”

    I never considered that you might be a man. Seeing that we’re on a blog to discuss imaginary god and religion, a real man would answer questions about his imaginary god. You obviously aren’t capable of that.

  173. on 15 Feb 2013 at 5:33 pm 173.Lou(DFW) said …

    171.Kyle said …

    “come on man im just looking for a valid point i am a logical person just say something that shows me you have a glimmer of intelligence”

    No, you demonstrated that you’re no such thing, and that you’re most likely just another hit & run troll.

  174. on 15 Feb 2013 at 5:35 pm 174.Kyle said …

    still waiting

  175. on 15 Feb 2013 at 5:37 pm 175.Lou(DFW) said …

    174.Kyle said …

    “still waiting”

    Good for you. You made a comment about which I replied

    “Why do you think that? Disbelief in imaginary god neither means nor implies any such thing.”

    Do you want to discuss it or not?

  176. on 15 Feb 2013 at 5:37 pm 176.Kyle said …

    im 6’1 deffinatly not a troll and your the one who keeps dodging and avoiding

  177. on 15 Feb 2013 at 5:39 pm 177.Kyle said …

    see i want to answer your questions but i can not understand you if anybody else does please explain what he is asking me

  178. on 15 Feb 2013 at 5:39 pm 178.Kyle said …

    or she … or it…

  179. on 15 Feb 2013 at 5:42 pm 179.Lou(DFW) said …

    Kyle, when you grow-up, then please come back.

  180. on 15 Feb 2013 at 5:47 pm 180.Kyle said …

    see how a normal person would phase that is Kyle, please come back when you grow up, or Kyle, grow up, then please come back, or are you still in school and have yet to learn grammer

  181. on 15 Feb 2013 at 6:25 pm 181.s0l0m0n said …

    Actually atheists have lost all arguments. They can’t answer theists doctrine questions but goes on nagging for the not so relevant subjects as what is the identity of the true God or for evidence of a God, just to kill time and to look as if they are still in control of the argument. Their tactics are busted.

  182. on 15 Feb 2013 at 6:28 pm 182.MattD said …

    He fails to see that the entire Bible is myth. You cannot “form a relationship” with a mythological being. It is embarrassing to think about this man, and billions like him, having their “realtionships” with their imaginary friends. How can adults behave in such a ridiculous way?

    It’s embarrassing all right. One barely has to look beyond this blog to see that.

  183. on 15 Feb 2013 at 6:42 pm 183.Kyle said …

    nothing… no comeback… very weak

  184. on 15 Feb 2013 at 7:01 pm 184.Kyle said …

    i would like the creator of this site to engage me, please.

  185. on 15 Feb 2013 at 7:18 pm 185.Anonymous said …

    Kyle, you’ve said or implied that Solomon’s belief’s are delusional, that Catholics are delusional, but what you haven’t done is tell us what you believe and why we should believe you. Why is that?

    Let’s start there. Which denomination of Christianity do you subscribe to and, tell us, how do you know that your choice is correct and not delusional as per all the others?

    If you want a serious debate, and you’re willing to ignore the trolls who will absolutely try to stop you answering, that’s where we should start. Over to you.

  186. on 15 Feb 2013 at 7:35 pm 186.The messenger said …

    on 11 Feb 2013 at 4:23 am 7.The messenger said …
    My family, genesis 1 states how God constructed the Earth.
    Genesis 2, states what life forms God put on the Earth.
    These are not two different stories, as Brother Thomas idiotically states. They are both parts of the same stories.
    Stop listening to our mentally misguided brother Thomas, and start listening to the truth. ,

  187. on 15 Feb 2013 at 7:58 pm 187.A said …

    Kyle

    Thelma-Lou claims he owns a business. Seriously, that is his claim.

    Whadda ya think? Sound possible?

    Please do not engage Anonymous. He has been banned from the site for diversions and cowardice.

    Thanks in advance.

  188. on 15 Feb 2013 at 8:00 pm 188.A said …

    Kyle,

    Just a warning. You will be called a troll and you will be called a sock by all the atheists here.

    Enjoying your posts, keep it up.

  189. on 15 Feb 2013 at 8:23 pm 189.Kyle said …

    Thank you. alright to start off i dont really know anything about demoninations, but i can tell you what I believe. I belive that God sent down his only son to have him die for our sins because by nature we are sinners. I believe acceptance that Jesus is our lord and savior is all we need to get into Heaven. And I know that this is true because of how Jesus has worked in my life. Scientists could debate until the end of time however the theory of god will never be proven or disproven because it states in The Bible that even when miricles were preformed there were still doubts and God got mad because people would only belive what they could see with their eyes, so he stoped preforming those types of miricles and made us rely on faith in Jesus and Himself. If you truly do this with your whole heart and soul you will feel Jesus and our father God in your life. And I know for a fact that this is no bull because of the morals, values, lessons, and stories. I also see how this whole site is based on how can God do this how can God say this but his thinking is not even simular to the way we think and everything that happens, happens for a reason wether we can see why or not. and pretty much every argument you have is answered in The Bible you just have to look.

  190. on 15 Feb 2013 at 8:32 pm 190.Kyle said …

    What aree you talking about A Lou could have his own buiseness you know one of those businesses that you post a bunch of stuff on networking sites and sites like craigslist to try and trick people into trying the same thing… lol and thanks for the heads up but I dont care what people call me I just want someone to have the oppertunnity to feel the joy that only God and his son can bring to our lifes.

  191. on 15 Feb 2013 at 8:32 pm 191.Lou(DFW) said …

    184.ASS said, without mentioning a thing about god and religion …

    “Thelma-Lou claims he owns a business. Seriously, that is his claim.

    Whadda ya think? Sound possible?”

    10.ASS said …

    “Anony the Mouse roars in whining and complaining about a a poster, again, rather than content.”

    11.Lou(DFW) said …

    If there’s anyone who’s a expert on that, then it’s most definitely you.

  192. on 15 Feb 2013 at 8:33 pm 192.Lou(DFW) said …

    185.ASS said …

    “Kyle,

    Enjoying your posts, keep it up.”

    Especially this gem, right, ASS?

    “176.Kyle said …

    im 6?1 ”

    Try to stay calm, ASS.

  193. on 15 Feb 2013 at 8:35 pm 193.Kyle said …

    Really Lou are you good for anything else than copying, pasting, and making absolutly no sense?

  194. on 15 Feb 2013 at 8:38 pm 194.Lou(DFW) said …

    187.Kyle said …

    “I dont care what people call me I just want someone to have the oppertunnity to feel the joy that only God and his son can bring to our lifes.”

    I don’t care in which imaginary god and related nonsense you believe, but about for which imaginary god and religion you can provide evidence. Where is it?

    Regardless, we all have the opportunity, but why must you delusional xtians be in our face about it? Isn’t suckling at the government tit enough for you?

  195. on 15 Feb 2013 at 8:39 pm 195.Kyle said …

    Oh and as far as Anonymous i will engage him as long as he makes sense

  196. on 15 Feb 2013 at 8:40 pm 196.Lou(DFW) said …

    184.ASS said …

    “Thelma-Lou claims he owns a business. Seriously, that is his claim.

    Whadda ya think? Sound possible?”

    ASS claims that he is an “Astrophysicist?” Seriously, that is his claim.

    Whadda ya think? Sound possible?

  197. on 15 Feb 2013 at 8:43 pm 197.Kyle said …

    On the contrary i think it is people like you Lou who voted for Obama that are suckling at the governments teet

  198. on 15 Feb 2013 at 8:45 pm 198.Anonymous said …

    Thank you Kyle.

    Now, help us understand this a little better. You’ve rejected Solomon’s version which is based on his holy book. You rejected Catholicism even though Catholics insist that their interpretation is correct.

    Your reasoning, and correct me if I misunderstand, is (mostly?) because of how Jesus has operated in your life. Correct?

    What is missing is how you can reject other religions when they use exactly the same arguments that you do. i.e. their holy book says…. and that their (different) god has proven themselves in their life. They are as certain that they are right as you are that they are wrong.

    Finally. You seem to know how your god thinks. How can you know this?

    Help us. From the outside looking in, you give the same arguments as the people you would claim as delusional. There’s no difference and you both can’t be correct – you’ve said those others are delusional. How do you explain this to us. How can anyone know that your version is correct – remember, you doubt the other versions. The difference here is that we also doubt you.

    What did Jesus do in your life that isn’t explainable by coincidence or by a naturalistic explanation?

  199. on 15 Feb 2013 at 8:48 pm 199.Lou(DFW) said …

    194.Kyle said …

    “On the contrary i think it is people like you Lou who voted for Obama that are suckling at the governments teet”

    It doesn’t matter what you “think.”

    And you didn’t answer my question in my comment. You claim to want to discuss, here, but apparently, you’re just like all the other theists here.

    Regardless, we all have the opportunity, but why must you delusional xtians be in our face about it? Isn’t suckling at the government tit enough for you?

  200. on 15 Feb 2013 at 8:52 pm 200.Lou(DFW) said …

    192.Kyle said …

    “Oh and as far as Anonymous i will engage him as long as he makes sense”

    Makes sense? According to you?

    Let’s see, people who believe in imaginary gods other than yours, and who don’t believe in any imaginary god, are delusional. But people who believe in YOUR imaginary god are not delusional. Do I correctly understand you?

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