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Christianity Thomas on 12 Jan 2013 12:06 am

Christian Mingle – pure Christian insanity

Some question if ChristianMingle will ‘find God’s match for you’

Some? Some question?

It might be the most audacious, and perhaps the most presumptuous, ad slogan ever devised.

“Find God’s match for you,” sayeth ChristianMingle.com, an online dating service that suggests in its advertising that its computer-generated matches are, well, made in heaven.

The slogan appears just about everywhere — on the Web, on TV, in your email box — suggesting that ChristianMingle may even have the Man Upstairs in its corner.

Which raises a few questions about ChristianMingle. Such as: How does it know who God wants to hook you up with?

The insanity of Christians is perfectly displayed here. They believe that God is all-powerful, omniscient. They also believe that God has a plan:

Yet they also believe that they need a dating site. The utter irrationality, delusion and insanity is over the top in this case.

264 Responses to “Christian Mingle – pure Christian insanity”

  1. on 13 Jan 2013 at 2:22 am 1.Tom said …

    “Yet they also believe that they need a dating site.”

    Who is they? I am a Christian and never needed a date site and don’t know any that do.

    I guess the ad makes for a good blog entry.

  2. on 13 Jan 2013 at 9:31 pm 2.alex said …

    “Who is they”

    Theists, moron. Who the fuck you think? Yeah, you don’t use it right? Well, some xtians don’t use the bible either.

    Just another example for bilking the idiot believers.

  3. on 15 Jan 2013 at 11:36 pm 3.JALindsay said …

    I wonder if Christian Mingle ever uses God’s omniscience to hook up a theist with an atheist that’s meant to lead them to freethought according to His plan.

  4. on 16 Jan 2013 at 2:41 am 4.John said …

    I love the “God’s Plan” video. Hilarious!

  5. on 20 Jan 2013 at 9:33 pm 5.The messenger said …

    Thomas, you have Failed yet again.

    You seem to think that it is the computers that are generating God’s matches for us. You are wrong. God has a match for all people, Christian mingle is just a tool to help Christians find that match.

    The matches are NOT COMPUTER generated, the matches are found by comparing a person’s personality with someone else’s.

    I pray that the madness that is infecting your brain stops.

  6. on 20 Jan 2013 at 9:46 pm 6.The messenger said …

    Thomas, God is all powerful, so therefore he is able to plan out every event in our lives.

  7. on 20 Jan 2013 at 9:51 pm 7.The messenger said …

    Thomas, God puts struggles in our lives so that we may learn from them.

    Here is an example. If a person has an adiction to drugs and he gets into a life threading accident that injures him, receiving that injury is an explaple to him and others that taking drugs is a bad thing.

  8. on 21 Jan 2013 at 10:41 am 8.phil said …

    oh that’s nice, wonder what the jews thought they were learning in the concentration camps?

  9. on 21 Jan 2013 at 2:06 pm 9.Lesbian Carwasher said …

    heheh
    @massenger

    your funny, so your saying god is an asshole for hurting people, and say he is all powerfull

    yet he kills hundreds of innocent people?
    hates they homosexuals?
    hates us athiests and we will burn forever?
    he cannot design a perfect organism?

    yeah he sounds great, i so totaly want to be a christian now, so i can kill people, but then i can admit my sins and get to heaven.

  10. on 21 Jan 2013 at 2:35 pm 10.Lesbian Carwasher said …

    Im a brony btw :D

  11. on 21 Jan 2013 at 4:08 pm 11.The messenger said …

    8.phil, the Jewish people who died in the Hollocast were not killed by Christians.

    The Natzis are not Christians. They are Athiests.

  12. on 21 Jan 2013 at 4:12 pm 12.The messenger said …

    9.Lesbian Carwasher, God is not an asshole, he is a good, kind person. He has spent his entire life trying to teach us to love one another and to forgive others.

    Bad things occur in life so that we may learn from them and become better people.

  13. on 21 Jan 2013 at 4:58 pm 13.The messenger said …

    9.Lesbian Carwasher, God does not hate Athiests and he doesnot hate Homosexuals. He loves all people.

    Being Homosexual is not a sin, homosexuals sex is.

    No one is in hell forever, eventually the sect emcee will have be payed off and they will be allowed to enter purgatory and then heaven.

  14. on 21 Jan 2013 at 5:04 pm 14.The messenger said …

    8.phil, the people who died in the Hollocast are now in heaven because the overcame the suffering that they endured and kept their faith faith in God.

  15. on 21 Jan 2013 at 7:33 pm 15.Severin said …

    #11
    “The Natzis are not Christians. They are Athiests.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Nazi_Germany :
    “The German census of May 1939 indicates that 54 percent of Germans considered themselves Protestant and 40 percent considered themselves Catholic, with only 3.5 percent claiming to be neo-pagan “believers in God,” and 1.5 percent unbelievers.”

    “Adolf Hitler was baptized in a Catholic Church in 1889 and was never be excommunicated or in any other way officially censured by the Catholic Church. Hitler frequently referred to God and Christianity in his various speeches and writings. In one 1933 speech, he said that “To do justice to God and our own conscience, we have turned once more to the German Volk.”
    In a 1922 speech, he said: “My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. … ”

    Then (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_oath )
    “I sWEAR BY GOD this sacred oath that to the Leader of the German empire and people, Adolf Hitler, supreme commander of the armed forces, I shall render unconditional obedience and that as a brave soldier I shall at all times be prepared to give my life for this oath.”

    or
    “I swear: I will be faithful and obedient to the leader of the German empire and people, Adolf Hitler, to observe the law, and to conscientiously fulfil my official duties, SO HELP ME GOD!”

    On http://www.nobeliefs.com/mementoes.htm , you can see that nazi’s soldiers wore belt backles on which “Gott mit uns” (“God with us”) was written.
    In German army priests were regurarly

    Mazis atheists?!
    Read history!

    You started to lie too?

  16. on 21 Jan 2013 at 7:38 pm 16.Severin said …

    Cont, +

    In German army priests were regurarly present just like in the US army.

  17. on 22 Jan 2013 at 12:41 am 17.Anon said …

    Hey messenger take your apologetic “true christanity” and shove where the sun don’t shine.

  18. on 22 Jan 2013 at 2:54 am 18.Ben said …

    “The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death…. When understanding of the universe has become widespread… Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity…. Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity…. And that’s why someday its structure will collapse…. …the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little…. Christianity the liar…. We’ll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State.”
    Hitler’s Secret Conversations 1941-1944 published by Farrar, Straus and Young, Inc.first edition, 1953

    Hitler was an Atheist. Wise up Severin. How many atheists here claimed to be Christians in their past?

  19. on 22 Jan 2013 at 9:13 am 19.The messenger said …

    15.Severin, Hitler and the Natziswere not true Christians because they broke the most important commandment of them all, “thou shall not murder”.

    If hitler was a true Christian he would’nt have started the Hollocast.
    Because hitler and the Natzis commited the sin of murder they are not true Christians.

    Here are some examples of true Christians.

    Mother Teresa
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa

    Aberaham Lincoln
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln

    Harriet Tubman
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Tubman

  20. on 22 Jan 2013 at 9:35 am 20.phil said …

    does it matter what religious beliefs hitler may have had? if god exsists s(he) still allowed the suffering to go on, as the messenger said’ so that they may learn from it’

    or doesn’t god think that jews are people too? can’t really see that they would have found this an educational experience

  21. on 22 Jan 2013 at 10:06 am 21.The messenger said …

    20.phil, God was testing the Israelights, that is why the suffering occurred.
    Now those people are in heaven.

  22. on 22 Jan 2013 at 12:38 pm 22.Severin said …

    #18
    “Hitler was an Atheist.”

    ““The German census of May 1939 indicates that 54 percent of Germans considered themselves Protestant and 40 percent considered themselves Catholic, …”

    Fine! Hitler was an atheist, OK.
    In that case German Christians were responsible for holocaust.
    It was “only” 96% of them in the whole German population, against 3.5% of “neo-pagans” and 1.5% nonbelievers!
    It was THEM who legaly elected Hitler to be their leader, AND they had more than a decade (about 12 years, in fact, from the moment Hitler started his struggle for power, to the moment German Christians voted for him) to make their choice whether or not to vote for him.
    All those long 12 years they had opportunity to listen to Hitler’s speaches, and to judge him and his politics. I remind you that his speaches were full of hate to Jews, all those years, and German Christians should have known what will happen if they vote for Hitler.
    Yet, THEY voted for Hitler!

    NOT atheists.

  23. on 22 Jan 2013 at 12:45 pm 23.Severin said …

    Correction: … speeches were full of …

  24. on 22 Jan 2013 at 12:50 pm 24.Lesbian Carwasher said …

    sorry messenger, but an all powerful being that can do ANYTHING regardless of anything should help the poor, dying, ect

    i would, therefore i am better than god

  25. on 22 Jan 2013 at 6:29 pm 25.Severin said …

    #11
    “The Natzis are not Christians. They are Athiests.”

    #19
    “Hitler and the Natzis were not true Christians …”

    So, there are “true” and “untrue” Christians (but both are Christians, or what)?

    What is next?

  26. on 22 Jan 2013 at 6:46 pm 26.Severin said …

    Fascism was born in 100% Christian Italy.
    Nazism was born in 96% Christian Germany.
    Communism took place in 100% Christian Russia.

    What is it so very wrong with Christianity?

  27. on 22 Jan 2013 at 9:33 pm 27.Omega said …

    It sickens me that Christian apologists love to manipulate history to make Christianity look less negative.

  28. on 22 Jan 2013 at 11:32 pm 28.The messenger said …

    25.Severin, what I mean is that some of the natzis claimed to be Christians. But they are not true Christians because they do not truly believe in Chist and because of their sins.

  29. on 22 Jan 2013 at 11:35 pm 29.The messenger said …

    24.Lesbian Carwasher, yes God can teach us right from wrong without the struggles of life, but he chose to teach us in this way because it is the best way for us to learn.

  30. on 22 Jan 2013 at 11:41 pm 30.The messenger said …

    22.Severin, I have already explained to you that the Natzis are not true Christians because of their lack of true faith and their sins.

    Therefore true Christians are not reap icicle for the Hollocast.

  31. on 23 Jan 2013 at 12:42 am 31.The messenger said …

    on 22 Jan 2013 at 9:13 am 19.The messenger said …
    15.Severin, Hitler and the Natziswere not true Christians because they broke the most important commandment of them all, “thou shall not murder”.
    If hitler was a true Christian he would’nt have started the Hollocast.
    Because hitler and the Natzis commited the sin of murder they are not true Christians.
    Here are some examples of true Christians.
    Mother Teresa
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa
    Aberaham Lincoln
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln
    Harriet Tubman
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Tubman

  32. on 23 Jan 2013 at 12:45 am 32.The messenger said …

    on 22 Jan 2013 at 11:41 pm 30.The messenger said …
    22.Severin, I have already explained to you that the Natzis are not true Christians because of their lack of true faith and their sins.
    Therefore true Christians are not responceable for the Hollocast.

  33. on 23 Jan 2013 at 6:16 am 33.Severin said …

    There are Catholics, Orthodox Christians, …, some +/- 100 denominations of Christianity.
    They, as siad, can all be true and untrue Christians.

    Then there is many denominations of Islam.
    I guess they also can be divided to true and untrue ones.

    Then we have hundreds of other religions, not to list them all here.
    I don’t know whether or not they also distinguish “true” and “untrue” believers among them.

    There is no true and untrue atheists.
    Either one is an atheist or is not an atheist.

    Very simple.

  34. on 24 Jan 2013 at 12:10 am 34.The messenger said …

    If a person does not follow God’s laws and does not repent for their action then they are not true Christians.

    The only true religions are Judaism and Christian religions.
    Here is God’s laws.

    http://www.rwf2000.com/gifs/10-God-Man.jpg

  35. on 24 Jan 2013 at 12:11 am 35.The messenger said …

    I have shown you the proof of our father, and yet you still live in denial.

  36. on 24 Jan 2013 at 4:13 am 36.Lou(DFW) said …

    32.The messenger said …

    “Therefore true Christians are not responceable for the Hollocast.”

    And you can’t possibly be responsible for your nonsensical rambling. You should be locked in a rubber room.

  37. on 25 Jan 2013 at 2:20 am 37.The messenger said …

    36.Lou(DFW), I only speak the truth on this site, it is not my problem if you fail to see it.

  38. on 25 Jan 2013 at 1:44 pm 38.Lou(DFW) said …

    37.The messenger said …

    “36.Lou(DFW), I only speak the truth on this site, it is not my problem if you fail to see it.”

    Yes, it IS your problem. Saying that something is the truth doesn’t make it true. Why can’t you get that through your thick skull?

  39. on 25 Jan 2013 at 2:42 pm 39.The messenger said …

    38.Lou(DFW), I have given you proof that God exists and that proves that I have spoken the truth on this site.

  40. on 25 Jan 2013 at 3:30 pm 40.A said …

    And saying something is a delusion does not make it true Thelma. Why can”t you and Barney get that through your hollow skulls?

    God exists and if you refuse to ignore the obvious, that’s on you. Seek medical attention quickly and stop being a hater.

  41. on 25 Jan 2013 at 3:40 pm 41.Lou(DFW) said …

    39.ASS said …

    “And saying something is a delusion does not make it true…”

    That’s correct, it doesn’t. What makes a delusion a delusion is belief in something for which there is no evidence. You have no evidence for your belief, THAT makes it a delusion, not that I say it is, moron.

    “Why can”t you and Barney get that through your hollow skulls?”

    Why can’t you provide any evidence for your imaginary god?

    “God exists…”

    Now that I refuted your lies, we’re right back to the beginning – saying something is true doesn’t make it true.

    “…and if you refuse to ignore the obvious…”

    LOL! You say it’s obvious, but you can’t provide any “obvious” evidence – nah, you’re not delusional, even though you repeatedly demonstrate it here.

    As DPK wrote, More left turns than a nASScar race!

  42. on 25 Jan 2013 at 3:52 pm 42.phil said …

    21. The messenger

    I literally cannot believe you said that. 6 million killed, including children and this is to test the israelites?

    Either your god was unable to stop this in which case s(he) is not powerful as you claim, or your god chose not to, in which case s(he) is evil. Or the most likely scenario…. s(he) doesn’t exsist!!!

    you are a sick individual to believe such evil things, how you justify the death and torture of millions of innocent people as a ‘test’ or to ‘educate’ makes me sick. If you can twist your thinking to accept this as ok, you should be ashamed

  43. on 25 Jan 2013 at 8:29 pm 43.A said …

    “You have no evidence for your belief, THAT makes it a delusion”

    Exactly, seek medical attention quickly Thelma-Lou! You are part of a small cult and the first thing to remember about cults is they claim the majority are wrong. You have a record setting number of posts here, yet you say nothing worth the time you spend. Much research is being done on your condition.

    Phil,

    Why were the Nazis evil? They claimed they were cleansing mankind and making the species better. Is this not just evolution? What makes your judgment superior to the Nazi judgment? Better yet, since we just celebrated 40 years RvW and the lost of 56 million lives, why are the Nazi’s evil but the abortionist are not?

  44. on 25 Jan 2013 at 8:39 pm 44.Lou(DFW) said …

    42.ASS said …

    “You are part of a small cult and the first thing to remember about cults is they claim the majority are wrong.”

    LOL! You claim the majority is incorrect. The majority of the people in the world don’t believe in your imaginary god, dummy.

    Actually, the number of people who believe something doesn’t in any way define “cult.” But, belief in something for which there is no evidence defines “delusion.”

    You simply keep lying to avoid the fact that you don’t have any evidence for your imaginary god, and that your belief is a delusion.

  45. on 25 Jan 2013 at 9:18 pm 45.Lou(DFW) said …

    42.ASS said …

    “[W]hy are the Nazi’s evil but the abortionist are not?”

    It doesn’t matter. But, you’re implying that they both were. The difference? The Nazis were xtians. Regardless, why can’t you produce your alleged god-given absolute moral code, fraud?

  46. on 25 Jan 2013 at 10:51 pm 46.Anonymous said …

    43 A:

    “why are the Nazi’s evil but the abortionist are not?”

    Abortion is the natural state of things:

    http://www.americanpregnancy.org/pregnancycomplications/miscarriage.html

    Spontaneous abortion (SAB), or miscarriage, is the term used for a pregnancy that ends on its own, within the first 20 weeks of gestation. The medical name spontaneous abortion (SAB) gives many women a negative feeling, so throughout this article we will refer to any type of spontaneous abortion or pregnancy loss under 20 weeks as miscarriage.

    Miscarriage is the most common type of pregnancy loss, according to the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG). Studies reveal that anywhere from 10-25% of all clinically recognized pregnancies will end in miscarriage. Chemical pregnancies may account for 50-75% of all miscarriages. This occurs when a pregnancy is lost shortly after implantation, resulting in bleeding that occurs around the time of her expected period. The woman may not realize that she conceived when she experiences a chemical pregnancy.

    http://miscarriage.about.com/od/pregnancyafterloss/f/70percent.htm

    “it does appear true that the majority of conceptions do not make it to term.”

    If you believe in God, and if you believe that abortion is murder, and if you believe that a child’s life begins at conception, then you must wonder why God is such a monster that he would spontaneously murder more than half of all the children conceived on planet earth. Either that, or abortion is not evil because God shows us it is fine. Which is it?

  47. on 25 Jan 2013 at 11:14 pm 47.The messenger said …

    41.Lou(DFW), I have shown you the proof.

    Do I have to Show it to you again?

  48. on 25 Jan 2013 at 11:15 pm 48.The messenger said …

    Beother 46.Anonymous, Abortion is murder.

  49. on 25 Jan 2013 at 11:17 pm 49.The messenger said …

    Abortion is murder if it is done by a human.

  50. on 25 Jan 2013 at 11:24 pm 50.The messenger said …

    44.Lou(DFW), the majority of the world does believe in the existance of God.
    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_percentage_of_the_world_are_atheist#page2

  51. on 25 Jan 2013 at 11:26 pm 51.alex said …

    “You are part of a small cult..”

    Who is the atheist cult leader? What is our charter?
    Atheists attributes you keep bringing up is bullshit, much like your god(s). All atheists are liberal? Wrong. All atheists are nazis? Wrong. All atheists believe in the SAME universal origin? Wrong. All atheists believe 100% that a god doesn’t exist? Wrong. Your Wrong list is long. All atheists don’t believe in your bullshit god, exclamation point. Your blather is annoying.

  52. on 26 Jan 2013 at 12:17 am 52.The messenger said …

    Here is proof that Athiests are nothing but evil.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes

  53. on 26 Jan 2013 at 12:58 am 53.DPK said …

    Why is it that when a fetus is aborted, it is murder, but when thousands of children are washed away in a tsunami, die of starvation or disease, or burn to death in a fire it is “just part of god’s plan” that we have to accept?
    Since everything supposedly happens according to god’s plan, why does he allow abortions to occur if he isn’t cool with it? Indeed, as asked in 46 above, why did god invent spontaneous abortions or miscarriages? I thought he was a perfect designer. An engineer or designer with a 50% failure rate is a total fuck up. In fact, since 98% of all species god ever created are now on the trash heap of distinction, I’d say that makes him completely and totally incompentant? Wouldn’t you agree, Ass?
    Perhaps with your “background in science” and advanced Astrophysicts degrees you can shed some light on the subject.

  54. on 26 Jan 2013 at 12:59 am 54.DPK said …

    Correction:
    Trash heap of distinction should read “extinction”.
    Damn auto correct.

  55. on 26 Jan 2013 at 1:17 am 55.Xenon said …

    Why is is when atheists are confronted with man aborting babies they change the subject? Why does it happen? Because men used propaganda to convince society that the baby in the womb is not a human being. It is not a human being therefore it does not get any protection, it is not worthy of respect. If the child is inconvenient, not planned for or causes any hardship, that is enough reason to rub it out. Who supports this? Liberals/Progressives of which atheists are members by a large margin.

    It is the very same tactic taken by Hitler. He dehumanized Jews in the very same manner.

    The atheist cult leaders – Scientism leaders
    Charter – Wipe out religion

  56. on 26 Jan 2013 at 1:38 am 56.Anonymous said …

    Xenon… you are so full of shit. I’m not i favor of abortion… but I’m also not in favor of government forcing religious beliefs on what should be a medical decision between a woman and doctor.
    Scientism? Where is the church headquarters of Scientism? Is it tax exempt? Who are these “leaders”, exactly? Where do we find this “charter”?
    Hey… are UFO’s coming to visit you at night too?
    How about rather than fabricating complete nonsense why don’t you do something productive and explain the dichotomy

  57. on 26 Jan 2013 at 1:39 am 57.DPK said …

    51 above is DPK… and should have finished
    “explain the dichotomy described in #48

  58. on 26 Jan 2013 at 4:17 am 58.Xenon said …

    DPK ask and you will receive. If you can’t get to London, many atheist worship in the Universalist church in the US. Done and done.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/01/07/the-sunday-assembly_n_2423590.html

    The government should only have murder laws for human beings, not babies in the womb? Your dehumanizing brainwashing process is now complete.

  59. on 26 Jan 2013 at 4:33 am 59.DPK said …

    Hahaha…. Did you read the artical before you posted it, you dumb ass? I didn’t think so.
    And how does a couple comedians hosting a joke “athlest” service translate to the claim you made about a “cult of scientist” with cult leaders and a charter to “wipe out religion.”
    Are you going to back away from that lie now, just like you do evertime you are asked to provide any evidence about the existence of the god you claim is real and intercedes in the physical world.
    I already told you, I’m anti abortion, I’m also anti gun control, even though I don’t own guns, I don’t think the government should be in the position to say I can’t.

    Now, explain why since, according to you, your god invented abortions, and your god has planned every one that occurs, why do you have a problem with that? Or, do younotbelievein “god’s plan” xenon? You are just a hot mess of contradictions, aren’t you sir?

  60. on 26 Jan 2013 at 4:36 am 60.The messenger said …

    56.Anonymous, abortion is murder, whether the baby is in the womb or not.

    Parrents have no right to decide whether the child lives or dies.

    Whether the child is in the womb or not does not matter, it is still alive and is human so therefore it has a right to live and the parrents have no right to decide it’s fate.

    Abortion is murder, and all people who have there children aborted are murders. Murder is not a right, why do you fail to see that.

  61. on 26 Jan 2013 at 4:37 am 61.The messenger said …

    on 26 Jan 2013 at 12:17 am 52.The messenger said …
    Here is proof that Athiests are nothing but evil.
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes

  62. on 26 Jan 2013 at 4:43 am 62.alex said …

    “Why is is when atheists are confronted with man aborting babies…”

    why is it that theists insist on pointing out different attributes as if all atheists march to the same drumbeat? for the umpteenth time, it’s not an either/or proposition. you don’t have to be a short, gay, black, liberal, pacifist, stinky, cursing, female atheist. you just don’t have to believe in a bullsheyat god.

  63. on 26 Jan 2013 at 4:59 am 63.The messenger said …

    Brother 62.alex, god is not BS, Jesus has spent his entire time on Earth teaching mankind how to love one anouther.

    He has taught us to love our enimies, to forgive, and to follow the Ten Commandments.

    http://www.rwf2000.com/gifs/10-God-Man.jpg

  64. on 26 Jan 2013 at 8:03 am 64.Anonymous said …

    My loving brother,U gave many explanations that god is imaginary,but brother just think if you were an orphan your mother and father left you,if somebody comes to u and ask u that if u are an orphan then where are you from or who gave u the birth,I don’t think that u’ll or anybody will say that he or she is from walnut or animals but from human being,as you have not seen them you can only imagine their faces that how they must have been but you can’t change the truth that you are from human being. GOD gave you brain and understanding power too to say that you are not from animals or walnut but you are from human being.

  65. on 26 Jan 2013 at 8:57 am 65.Anonymous said …

    Understood Loving brother.

  66. on 26 Jan 2013 at 9:23 am 66.Anonymous said …

    It is written in Matthew:- with God everything is possible.

    If you’ll be with God, everything will be possible for u but if not then nothing.

    Jesus was with him till the last breadth of his life and he was rescude out from the death,for he was having faith in god and god was having in him, so as I, god was having faith in him that he’ll never commit even a single mistake. GOD was having faith in Jesus he’ll never leave him or will work against his sayings.

  67. on 26 Jan 2013 at 12:27 pm 67.Severin said …

    #49
    “Abortion is murder if it is done by a human.”

    So, what do we have here:

    When human being do abortion, it is murder.
    When god makes it (spontanious abortions), it is – WHAT?

    When human being murders aboter human being it is murder.
    When god takes millions of lives of innocent children, and other innocent people (volcanos, hunger, tsunamies, …), it is – WHAT?

    How do you call THAT? Has IT a name?

  68. on 26 Jan 2013 at 12:39 pm 68.Lou (DFW) said …

    50.The messenger said …

    “44.Lou(DFW), the majority of the world does believe in the existance of God.”

    The majority does NOT believe in YOUR imaginary god, moron. Regardless of which imaginary god you choose, YOU will be NOT be in the majority. In fact, you and all the other theists are actually atheists except for the belief in YOUR particular imaginary god.

  69. on 26 Jan 2013 at 12:42 pm 69.Lou (DFW) said …

    55.Xenonsense said …

    “Why is is when atheists are confronted with man aborting babies they change the subject?”

    (Pathological) Liar – show us where an atheist here changed the subject as you claim. Yours is simply another false claim that can be added to the long list of lies that you post here.

    Why is it when theists are confronted with lack of evidence for their imaginary god or their inability to provide their alleged god-given absolute moral code that they change the subject?

  70. on 26 Jan 2013 at 1:54 pm 70.Has Atheism Become a Religion? said …

    Before you dismiss the question out of hand, consider these four inter-related bits of evidence:

    1) As recently reported in the New York Times, military personnel who identify themselves as “Atheists” have requested chaplains to tend to their spiritual needs. As the Times article notes, “Defense Department statistics show that about 9,400 of the nation’s 1.4 million active-duty military personnel identify themselves as atheists or agnostics, making them a larger subpopulation than Jews, Muslims, Hindus or Buddhists in the military.” Having their own chaplains, the article explains, would give Atheists a sense of legitimacy and help validate their own system of values and beliefs.

    2) The U.S. Government reports that in 2008 those identifying themselves specifically as “Atheist” composed the 18th largest group of 43 possible categories of “self-described religious identification.” The number of persons so identifying themselves almost doubled from seven years earlier. Admittedly, “Atheist” is one of the options listed under “no religion specified,” but given that other options for respondents included checking “Agnostic” or “No Religion” or not answering the question at all, it appears that identifying oneself specifically as an Atheist, as opposed to simply “not religious,” is growing in appeal. This points to the utility of a distinction made by Jonathan Lanman between “non-theists,” those with no particular religious belief, and “strong atheists,” those who view religion not only as irrelevant but as misguided and dangerous.

    3) Similarly, it’s worth noting the degree to which Atheists routinely, strategically, and often vociferously position what is often described as their “secular-humanist” views against religious traditions. Read or listen to any of the celebrity Atheists of the past decade like Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, and Sam Harris and you realize that they fashion many of their arguments not against some alternative economic, political, or philosophical position but against organized religion. Religious faith is clearly their primary opponent in the contest for the intellectual allegiance of the population, which makes it hard not to conclude that they offer their views and beliefs as a viable alternative to traditional religious systems.

    4) Finally — and you probably knew this was coming — consider all the comments made by self-identified Atheists on articles published in the Religion section of the Huffington Post. Seriously. Either Atheists have way more time on their hands than the rest of the population or they’ve got something to prove. This assertive, us-against-them tone (in this case, against established religion) is characteristic of new religions. (Think of the Christian gospels’, especially Matthew and John, stance toward first-century Judaism, for example.) As Rabbi David Wolpe observed a few months ago, there is an astonishing garrulousness to the comments made by Atheists to posts about religion that suggest not simply a lack of interest in, or even disdain for, religion but a competitive anger directed against persons of traditional religious faith. (Obviously plenty of religious folk radiate the same garrulousness, but this post is about Atheists.)

    Taken together, these four elements suggest that Atheists regularly demonstrate attributes — desire for spiritual sustenance, the importance of self-identification, offering their worldview as an alternative to other religious systems, and an assertive if not competitive style of engagement with other religious points of view — usually exhibited by religious folk of all persuasions.

    While Atheism as a movement doesn’t have the formal structure, celebrations, or creedal dogmas of organized religions, we might at least identify Atheism as it exists today as an increasingly vibrant faith tradition. Still, when speaking of Atheists, why use the f-word (for “faith,” silly) rather than speak of a worldview or personal philosophy? Three reasons suggest themselves.

    1) It conveys that both a conventional religious worldview and atheistic worldview require a measure of faith. I don’t mean this simply about the rather limited question of whether God exists, but rather about whether the material, physical dimension of life immediately apparent to our senses is all there is. The question can’t be reduced, as Atheists regularly have, to observing that there are many beliefs — in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus as well as God — that can’t be proved and must be taken on faith, but rather to ask whether there is a dimension of existence that supersedes or eludes our physical senses. Ultimately, any speech about God implies such a dimension that conversation about the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus do not.

    2) Religious faith — and I’d argue atheistic faith — doesn’t begin and end with the question of God or a spiritual dimension to life. One needs also to construct an interpretation of life (describing its purpose, goal, worth) and set of values by which to live that life. Ethics and values are not self-evident from religious creeds — witness, for instance, the distinct values of the varieties of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam that run the gamut from liberal to fundamentalist. Similarly, there is no self-evident value system shared by Atheists and projecting such a system requires imagination, critical reflection and, yes, faith.

    Third, characterizing both organized religion and emergent Atheism as distinct faith traditions invites a measure of mutual regard and even respect that is sorely lacking in present discourse. Professing belief in God, as well as rejecting such belief, each requires equal measures of imagination and nerve. As it turns out, doubt is not the opposite of faith; certainty is. For this reason, we can hold out the hope that religious and non-religious believers alike may recognize in each other similar acts of courage and together reject the cowardice of fundamentalism, whether religious or secular. Being able to disagree respectfully is a small but significant step that believers and non-believers could take as they, together, contemplate admiring, understanding, and preserving this wondrous world we share.

  71. on 26 Jan 2013 at 2:38 pm 71.alex said …

    “Before you dismiss the question out of hand, consider these four inter-related bits of evidence:”

    here’s interrelated. shit comes out of your round asshole. your mouth is round. you put shit in your mouth?

    the four you mentioned are irrelevant. more grandiose shit in the vein of “man is so perfect, requires a fictional creator”. frozen waterfall, bullshit.

    go preach in your church, fuckhead.

  72. on 26 Jan 2013 at 3:03 pm 72.Lou(DFW) said …

    70.Has Atheism Become a Religion? said …

    “Before you dismiss the question out of hand…”

    Actually, your comment can be immediately dismissed because there is no such thing as “Atheism.” Furthermore, the disbelief in an imaginary god cannot, BY DEFINITION, be a religion!

    The idea that “Atheism” is a religion is simply a thinly veiled attempt to defend a belief in imaginary god by asserting that disbelief in imaginary god is also a religion, therefore, it is demonstrative of the same illogical, irrational characteristics as religion. Just because you can’t defend your belief in an imaginary god, doesn’t mean that you can create a fake, fair and balanced argument. It’s the same approach that’s used to attack evolution – create a fake, fair and balanced argument against it – Creationism.

    The comment can be reduced to this simple idea – defend religion by lying about what “Atheism” is in order to attack it based on the same faith-based nonsense that is religion. In other words, YOUR religion (Atheism) is just as illogical and irrational as is mine.

    If there actually is atheism, then it’s this – the acceptance of beliefs and ideas for which there is evidence, and the flexibility to change based upon that idea. Religion is exactly NOT THAT!

  73. on 26 Jan 2013 at 3:08 pm 73.The messenger said …

    67.Severin, when someone dies because of a natural disaster or a disease it is not murder, it just means that it is time for that person to leave this world and go to either heaven, hell, or purgatory.

    God deciedes whether we live on Earth or not, we humans have no right to decide whether a person should live or die.

  74. on 26 Jan 2013 at 3:37 pm 74.Anonymous said …

    My Loving brother,By Jesus he showed that everything is possible, Jesus showed if you’ll have faith in him(GOD) and work according to his sayings he’ll be with u and then everything will be possible for u, Jesus never complained then also when he was on the cross and about to die but then also he fullfilled the desire of his father and he completed his will because he loves him. When he(JESUS) did not complained, and who all died they do not complained about God .Then who are the living ones to complain against him. They will only complain who don’t love him and the one who is away from the father & who don’t know him and if you are away from him then u don’t love him and u’ll talk against him.and y do you care about the dead persons, for it is written:- MY FATHER (GOD)IS NOT OF THE DEAD ONES BUT HE IS OF THE LIVING ONES. he cares about u,he loves u & y do u care and talk about the dead ones because they will only care and will talk about the dead ones who is dead because the dead person only cares & talk about dead ones not living ones because the living ones will love GOD IN EVERY TEST AND AFTER IT ALSO. and as i told u that if you are dead then he is not of the dead ones my brother here it ends.

  75. on 26 Jan 2013 at 4:07 pm 75.DPK said …

    70.Has Atheism Become a Religion? said …

    Unless your name is David Lose, cut and pasting work and claiming it as your own is called plagiarism, which is a form of both stealing and lying.
    Here is a link to the original article you stole:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-lose/atheism-religion_b_867217.html

    One need look no further than a few of the associated comments to find a complete dismantling of the argument. Here is one that puts it succinctly:

    “A community of people sharing ideas and thoughts together and being and helping each other out does not make a religion. If that were true, then book clubs and sewing circles are then religious institutions. The belief in a supernatural entity affecting this world does.”… a reader known as CarmenAlex

  76. on 26 Jan 2013 at 6:17 pm 76.The messenger said …

    68.Lou (DFW), you stated that Athiesm is the majority of the world’s population, but you have failed to provide any proof to support your claim.

    Me on the other hand have decided to prove to you that religion based on the God of Abraham has the majority.

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    Religion Conversions[1] Rate to total growth Rate to size Number of adherents to each new convert
    Christianity 2,501,396 9.92% 0.13% 799
    Islam 865,558 3.83% 0.07% 1,373
    Buddhism 156,609 4.25% 0.04% 2,298
    Sikhism 28,961 7.38% 0.12% 803
    Bahá’í 26,333 18.35% 0.37% 270
    Zoroastrianism 13,080 22.37% 0.51% 194
    Taoism ?155
    Confucianism ?11,434
    Jainism ?39,588
    Shinto ?40,527
    Judaism ?70,447
    Hinduism ?660,377
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    Religion Births Conversions New adherents per year[1] Growth rate
    Christianity 22,708,799 2,501,396 25,210,195 1.36%
    Islam 21,723,118 865,558 22,588,676 1.43%
    Hinduism 13,194,111 ?660,377 12,533,734 1.69%
    Buddhism 3,530,918 156,609 3,687,527 1.09%
    Sikhism 363,677 28,961 392,638 1.87%
    Judaism 194,962 ?70,447 124,515 0.91%
    Bahá’í 117,158 26,333 143,491 2.28%
    Confucianism 55,739 ?11,434 44,305 0.73%
    Jainism 74,539 ?39,588 34,951 0.87%
    Shinto 8,534 ?40,527 -31,993 ?1.09%
    Taoism 25,397 ?155 25,242 1.00%
    Zoroastrianism 45,391 13,080 58,471 2.65%
    Global population 78,860,791 78,860,791 1.41%
    Religion Adherents (2000)[1] Percent of world Adherents (2025)[1] Percent of world Adherents (2050)[1] Percent of world Growth (number) Growth (percent of adherents) Growth (percent of world)
    Christianity 1,999,563,838 33.0% 2,616,670,052 33.4% 3,051,564,342 34.3% 1,052,000,504 52.61% 1.3%
    Islam 1,188,242,789 19.6% 1,784,875,653 22.8% 2,229,281,610 25.0% 1,041,038,821 87.61% 5.4%
    Hinduism 811,336,265 13.4% 1,049,230,740 13.4% 1,175,297,850 13.2% 363,961,585 44.86% ?0.2%
    Buddhism 359,981,757 5.9% 418,344,730 5.3% 424,607,060 4.8% 64,625,303 17.95% ?1.1%
    Sikhism 23,258,412 0.4% 31,377,860 0.4% 37,058,960 0.4% 13,800,548 59.34% 0.0%
    Judaism 14,434,039 0.2% 16,053,350 0.2% 16,694,500 0.2% 2,260,461 15.66% 0.0%
    Bahá’í 7,106,420 0.1% 12,062,150 0.2% 18,000,900 0.2% 10,894,480 153.30% 0.1%
    Confucianism 6,298,597 0.1% 6,817,950 0.1% 6,952,900 0.1% 654,303 10.39% 0.0%
    Jainism 4,217,979 0.1% 6,115,650 0.1% 6,732,770 0.1% 2,514,791 59.62% 0.0%
    Shinto 2,761,845 0.0% 2,122,950 0.0% 1,655,400 0.0% -1,106,445 ?40.06% 0.0%
    Taoism 2,654,514 0.0% 3,066,300 0.0% 3,272,200 0.0% 617,686 23.27% 0.0%
    Zoroastrianism 2,543,950 0.0% 4,439,930 0.1% 6,964,700 0.1% 4,420,750 173.78% 0.1%
    Others 1,632,648,595 27.0% 1,872,525,685 24.0% 1,931,011,808 22.0% 298,363,213 18.27% ?5.6%
    Total 6,055,049,000 100.0% 7,823,703,000 100.0% 8,909,095,000 100.0% 2,854,046,000 47.13% -
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    Roman Catholic Church

    Church membership in 2007 was 1.147 billion people,[5] (17% of the global population at the time) increasing from the 1950 figure of 437 million[6] (17% of the global population at the time) and the 1970 figure of 654 million.[7] On 31 December 2008, membership was 1.166 billion, an increase of 11.54% over the same date in 2000, only slightly greater than the rate of increase of the world population (10.77%). The increase was 33.02% in Africa, but only 1.17% in Europe. It was 15.91% in Asia, 11.39% in Oceania, and 10.93% in Americas. As a result, Catholics were 17.77% of the total population in Africa, 63.10% in Americas, 3.05% in Asia, 39.97% in Europe, 26.21% in Oceania, and 17.40% of the world population. Of the world’s Catholics, the proportion living in Africa grew from 12.44% in 2000 to 14.84% in 2008, while those living in Europe fell from 26.81% to 24.31%.[8] Membership of the Catholic Church is attained through baptism.[9] If someone formally leaves the Church, that fact is noted in the register of the person’s baptism.
    Monsignor Vittorio Formenti, who compiles the Vatican’s yearbook, said in an interview with the Vatican newspaper L’Osservatore Romano that “For the first time in history, we are no longer at the top: Muslims have overtaken us”. He said that Catholics accounted for 17.4 percent of the world population—a stable percentage—while Muslims were at 19.2 percent. “It is true that while Muslim families, as is well known, continue to make a lot of children, Christian ones on the contrary tend to have fewer and fewer,” the monsignor said.[10]
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    Table based on statistics from “xist.org”:[30][31]

    Rank Continent Christians (2010) Rank Continent Christians (2050)
    1. Americas 804,140,000 1. Americas 1,005,838,000
    2. Europe 550,911,000 2. Africa 951,270,000
    3. Africa 482,240,000 3. Europe 670,607,000
    4. Asia 278,273,000 4. Asia 353,125,000
    5. Oceania 25,754,000 5. Oceania 37,662,000
    Rank Country Christians (2010) Rank Country Christians (2050)
    1. United States 243,186,000 1. United States 329,343,000
    2. Brazil 174,700,000 2. Brazil 235,666,000
    3. Mexico 105,095,000 3. Ethiopia 179,493,000
    4. Russia 99,775,000 4. Congo, Democratic Republic of 170,380,000
    5. Philippines 90,530,000 5. Philippines 158,895,000
    6. Nigeria 76,281,000 6. Mexico 139,773,000
    7. China, People’s Republic of 66,959,000 7. Nigeria 127,374,000
    8. Congo, Democratic Republic of 63,825,000 8. Uganda 113,415,000
    9. Italy 55,070,000 9. Russia 76,759,000
    10. Ethiopia 54,978,000 10. China, People’s Republic of 71,208,000
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    Jewish population by country
    For historical figures, see Historical Jewish population comparisons. For different regions, see Judaism by country and Jewish ethnic divisions

    Jewry in 2006
    Jewish population refers to the number of Jews in the world. Precise figures are difficult to calculate because the definition of “Who is a Jew” is a source of controversy. Worldwide, there are about 13.5 million Jews, or about 0.2% of the world population.Below is a list of significant Jewish populations in the world by country:[1]

    Rank
    Country
    Official data
    Estimations
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    Source
    1 Israel
    5,703,700
    5,600,000
    2 United States
    5,275,000
    6,000,000-7,000,000
    3 France
    483,500
    606,561
    4 Canada
    375,000
    393,660
    5 United Kingdom
    292,000
    350,000
    6 Russia
    205,000
    800,000
    7 Argentina
    182,300
    250,000
    8 Germany
    119,000
    118,000
    9 Australia
    107,500
    120,000
    10 Brazil
    95,6000
    97,300
    11 Ukraine
    71,000
    142,276
    12 South Africa
    70,800
    88,688
    13 Hungary
    48,600
    49,000
    14 Mexico
    39,400
    53,101
    15 Belgium
    30,300
    51,821
    16 Netherlands
    30,000
    32,814
    17 Italy
    28,400
    30,213
    18 Chile
    20,500
    25,375
    19 Switzerland
    17,600
    14,649
    20 Turkey
    17,600
    17,415
    21 Uruguay
    17,500
    30,743
    22 Belarus
    16,500
    72,103
    23 Sweden
    15,000
    18,003
    24 Spain
    12,000
    48,409
    25 Venezuela
    12,000
    20,900
    26 Iran
    10,400
    20,405
    27 Latvia
    9,700
    9,092
    28 Romania
    9,700
    6,029
    29 Austria
    9,000
    8,184
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    World Muslim population by percentage (Pew Research Center, 2009)

    World Muslim population in millions
    Islam is the world’s second largest religion after Christianity. According to a 2010 study, Islam has 1.62 billion adherents, making up over 23% of the world population.[1][2]

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    Islam is the predominant religion in the Middle East, in Sahel, in the Horn of Africa and northern Africa,[3][4][5][6] and in some parts of Asia.[7] Large communities of Muslims are also found in China, the Balkans, and Russia.[3][8] Other parts of the world host large Muslim immigrant communities; in Western Europe, for instance, Islam is the second largest religion after Christianity, where it represents 6% of the total population.[9]

    According to the Pew Research Center in 2010 there were 49 Muslim-majority countries.[10] Around 62% of the world’s Muslims live in South and Southeast Asia, with over 1 billion adherents.,[11] The largest Muslim country is Indonesia home to 12.7% of the world’s Muslims followed by Pakistan (11.0%), India (10.9%), and Bangladesh (9.2%).[3][12] About 20% of Muslims live in Arab countries.[13] In the Middle East, the non-Arab countries of Turkey and Iran are the largest Muslim-majority countries; in Africa, Egypt and Nigeria have the most populous Muslim communities.[3][12]

    A study conducted by the Pew Research Center in 2010 and released January 2011[3][14] found that there are 1.62 billion Muslims around the world. The study found more Muslims in the United Kingdom than in Lebanon and more in China than in Syria.[3]

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    Figures indicated in the first four columns below are based on the demographic study by the Pew Research Center report of The Future of the Global Muslim Population, as of 27 January 2011.[3][14]

    Country/Region[3] Muslim population
    2010 Pew Report[3] Muslim percentage (%) of total population
    2010 Pew Report[3] Percentage (%) of World Muslim population
    2010 Pew Report[3] Muslim population
    Other sources Muslim percentage (%)
    Other sources
    Afghanistan 29,047,000 99.8 1.8
    Albania 2,601,000 82.1 0.2 38.8%-85%[15][16]
    Algeria 34,780,000 98.2 2.1
    American Samoa < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Andorra 1,000 1.1 < 0.1
    Angola 195,000 1.0 < 0.1
    Anguilla < 1,000 0.3 < 0.1
    Antigua and Barbuda < 1,000 0.6 < 0.1
    Argentina 1,000,000 2.5 0.1
    Armenia 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Aruba < 1,000 0.4 < 0.1
    Australia 399,000 1.9 < 0.1
    Austria 475,000 5.7 < 0.1 400-500,000[17] ~6.0%[18]
    Azerbaijan 8,795,000 98.4 0.5
    Bahamas < 1,000 0.1 < 0.1
    Bahrain 655,000 81.2 < 0.1 866,888[19] 70.2%[19]
    Bangladesh 148,607,000 90.4 9.2
    Barbados 2,000 0.9 < 0.1
    Belarus 19,000 0.2 < 0.1
    Belgium 638,000 6.0 < 0.1 628,751[20] 6.0%[20]
    Belize < 1,000 0.1 < 0.1
    Benin 2,259,000 24.5 0.1
    Bermuda < 1,000 0.8 < 0.1
    Bhutan 7,000 1.0 < 0.1
    Bolivia 2,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Bosnia-Herzegovina 1,564,000 41.6 0.1 45%[21]
    Botswana 8,000 0.4 < 0.1
    Brazil 204,000 0.1 < 0.1 35,167[22] 0.03%[22]
    British Virgin Islands < 1,000 1.2 < 0.1
    Brunei 211,000 51.9 < 0.1 67%[23]
    Bulgaria 1,002,000 13.4 0.1 577,139[24] 10%[24]
    Burkina Faso 9,600,000 58.9 0.6 60.5%[25]
    Burma (Myanmar) 1,900,000 3.8 0.1
    Burundi 184,000 2.2 < 0.1
    Cambodia 240,000 1.6 < 0.1
    Cameroon 3,598,000 18.0 0.2 20.9%[26]
    Canada 940,000 2.8 0.1 1.9%[27]
    Cape Verde < 1,000 0.1 < 0.1
    Cayman Islands < 1,000 0.2 < 0.1
    Central African Republic 403,000 8.9 < 0.1 15%[28][29]
    Chad 6,404,000 55.7 0.4
    Channel Islands < 1,000 0.1 < 0.1
    Chile 4,000 < 0.1 < 0.1 2,894[30] 0.03% (over 15+ pop.)[30]
    China 23,308,000 1.8 1.4 50,000,000 – 100,000,000[31][32]
    Colombia 14,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Comoros 679,000 98.3 < 0.1
    Congo 969,000 1.4 0.1
    Cook Islands < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Costa Rica < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Croatia 56,000 1.3 < 0.1
    Cuba 10,000 0.1 < 0.1
    Cyprus 200,000 22.7 < 0.1
    Czech Republic 4,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Denmark 226,000 4.1 < 0.1 210,000[33] 3.7%[33]
    Djibouti 853,000 97.0 0.1
    Dominica < 1,000 0.2 < 0.1
    Dominican Republic 2,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Ecuador 2,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Egypt 80,024,000 94.7 4.9 91%[34]
    El Salvador 2,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Equatorial Guinea 28,000 4.1 < 0.1
    Eritrea 1,909,000 36.5 0.1 50%[35]
    Estonia 2,000 0.1 < 0.1 1,400[36]
    Ethiopia 28,721,000 33.8 1.8
    Faeroe Islands < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Falkland Islands (Malvinas) < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Federated States of Micronesia < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Fiji 54,000 6.3 < 0.1
    Finland 42,000 0.8 < 0.1
    France 4,704,000 7.5 0.3 8%-10%[37]
    French Guiana 2,000 0.9 < 0.1
    French Polynesia < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Gabon 145,000 9.7 < 0.1
    Gambia 1,669,000 95.3 0.1
    Georgia 442,000 10.5 < 0.1
    Germany 4,119,000 5.0 0.3 4,300,000[38] 5,4%[38]
    Ghana 3,906,000 16.1 0.2
    Gibraltar 1,000 4.0 < 0.1
    Greece 527,000 4.7 < 0.1
    Greenland < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Grenada < 1,000 0.3 < 0.1
    Guadeloupe 2,000 0.4 < 0.1
    Guam < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Guatemala 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Guinea 8,693,000 84.2 0.5
    Guinea Bissau 705,000 42.8 < 0.1 50%[39]
    Guyana 55,000 7.2 < 0.1
    Haiti 2,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Honduras 11,000 0.1 < 0.1
    Hong Kong 91,000 1.3 < 0.1
    Hungary 25,000 0.3 < 0.1
    Iceland 371 0.1 < 0.1
    India 177,286,000 14.6 10.9 22%[40]
    Indonesia 204,847,000 88.1 12.7
    Iran 74,819,000 99.6 4.6
    Iraq 31,108,000 98.9 1.9
    Ireland 43,000 0.9 < 0.1 84,064[17] 2%[17]
    Isle of Man < 1,000 0.2 < 0.1
    Israel 1,287,000 17.7 0.1
    Italy 1,583,000 2.6 0.1 825,000[18] 1.4%[18]
    Ivory Coast 7,960,000 36.9 0.5 40%[41][42][43]
    Jamaica 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Japan 185,000 0.1 < 0.1
    Jordan 6,397,000 98.8 0.4
    Kazakhstan 8,887,000 56.4 0.5 70.2%[44]
    Kenya 2,868,000 7.0 0.2 10%[45]
    Kiribati < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Kosovo 2,104,000 91.7 0.1 1,584,000[46]
    Kuwait 2,636,000 86.4 0.2
    Kyrgyzstan 4,927,000 88.8 0.3
    Laos 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Latvia 2,000 0.1 < 0.1
    Lebanon 2,542,000 59.7 0.2
    Lesotho 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Liberia 523,000 12.8 < 0.1
    Libya 6,325,000 96.6 0.4
    Liechtenstein 2,000 4.8 < 0.1
    Lithuania 3,000 0.1 < 0.1
    Luxembourg 11,000 2.3 < 0.1
    Macau < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Madagascar 220,000 1.1 < 0.1
    Malawi 2,011,000 12.8 0.1
    Malaysia 17,139,000 61.4 1.1
    Maldives 309,000 98.4 < 0.1
    Mali 12,316,000 92.4 0.8
    Malta 1,000 0.3 < 0.1
    Marshall Islands < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Martinique < 1,000 0.2 < 0.1
    Mauritania 3,338,000 99.2 0.2
    Mauritius 216,000 16.6 < 0.1
    Mayotte 197,000 98.8 < 0.1
    Mexico 111,000 0.1 < 0.1
    Moldova 15,000 0.4 < 0.1
    Monaco < 1,000 0.5 < 0.1
    Mongolia 120,000 4.4 < 0.1
    Montenegro 116,000 18.5 < 0.1
    Montserrat < 1,000 0.1 < 0.1
    Morocco 32,381,000 99.9 2.0 99%[47]
    Mozambique 5,340,000 22.8 0.3
    Namibia 9,000 0.4 < 0.1
    Nauru < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Nepal 1,253,000 4.2 0.1
    Netherlands 914,000 5.5 0.1 5.8%[48]
    Netherlands Antilles < 1,000 0.2 < 0.1
    New Caledonia 7,000 2.8 < 0.1
    New Zealand 41,000 0.9 < 0.1
    Nicaragua 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Niger 15,627,000 98.3 1.0
    Nigeria 75,728,000 47.9 4.7
    Niue < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    North Korea 3,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Northern Mariana Islands < 1,000 0.7 < 0.1
    Norway 144,000 3.0 < 0.1 163,180 in 2008[49]
    Oman 2,547,000 87.7 0.2
    Pakistan 178,097,000 96.4 11.0
    Palau < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Palestinian territories 4,298,000 97.5 0.3 99.3% (Gaza Strip),[50] 75% (West Bank)[51]
    Panama 25,000 0.7 < 0.1
    Papua New Guinea 2,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Paraguay 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Peru < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Philippines 4,737,000 5.1 0.3
    Pitcairn Islands < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Poland 20,000 0.1 < 0.1
    Portugal 65,000 0.6 < 0.1
    Puerto Rico 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Qatar 1,168,000 77.5 0.1
    Republic of Congo 60,000 1.6 < 0.1
    Republic of Macedonia 713,000 34.9 < 0.1
    Reunion 35,000 4.2 < 0.1
    Romania 73,000 0.3 < 0.1
    Russia 16,379,000 11.7 1.0 15%[52]
    Rwanda 188,000 1.8 < 0.1
    St. Helena < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    St. Kitts and Nevis < 1,000 0.3 < 0.1
    St. Lucia < 1,000 0.1 < 0.1
    St. Pierre and Miquelon < 1,000 0.2 < 0.1
    St. Vincent and the Grenadines 2,000 1.7 < 0.1
    Samoa < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    San Marino < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Sao Tome and Principe < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Saudi Arabia 25,493,000 97.1 1.6
    Senegal 12,333,000 95.9 0.8
    Serbia 280,000 3.7 < 0.1
    Seychelles < 1,000 1.1 < 0.1
    Sierra Leone 4,171,000 71.5 0.3
    Singapore 721,000 14.9 < 0.1
    Slovakia 4,000 0.1 < 0.1
    Slovenia 49,000 2.4 < 0.1
    Solomon Islands < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Somalia 9,231,000 98.6 0.6 99.9%[53][54][55][56][57]
    South Africa 737,000 1.5 < 0.1
    South Korea 75,000 0.2 < 0.1
    Spain 1,021,000 2.3 0.1 1,000,000[18] 2.3%[18]
    Sri Lanka 1,725,000 8.5 0.1
    Sudan 30,855,000 71.4[Note 1] 1.9 97.0%[58]
    Suriname 84,000 15.9 < 0.1 19.6%[59]
    Swaziland 2,000 0.2 < 0.1
    Sweden 451,000 4.9 < 0.1 450-500,000[60] ~5%[60]
    Switzerland 433,000 5.7 < 0.1 400,000[61] 5%[61]
    Syria 20,895,000 92.8 1.3
    Taiwan 23,000 0.1 < 0.1
    Tajikistan 7,006,000 99.0 0.4
    Tanzania 13,450,000 29.9 0.8 35%[62]
    Thailand 3,952,000 5.8 0.2
    Timor-Leste 1,000 0.1 < 0.1
    Togo 827,000 12.2 0.1 20%[63]
    Tokelau < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Tonga < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Trinidad and Tobago 78,000 5.8 < 0.1
    Tunisia 10,349,000 99.8 0.6
    Turkey 74,660,000 98.6 4.6
    Turkmenistan 4,830,000 93.3 0.3
    Turks and Caicos Islands < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Tuvalu < 1,000 0.1 < 0.1
    Uganda 4,060,000 12.0 0.3
    Ukraine 393,000 0.9 < 0.1 2,000,000[64]
    United Arab Emirates 3,577,000 76.0 0.2
    United Kingdom 2,869,000 4.6 0.2 2,422,000[17] 2.4%[18]
    United States 2,595,000 0.8 0.2 7,000,000[65]
    U.S. Virgin Islands < 1,000 0.1 < 0.1
    Uruguay < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Uzbekistan 26,833,000 96.5 1.7
    Vanuatu < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Vatican City 0 0 0
    Venezuela 95,000 0.3 < 0.1
    Vietnam 160,000 0.2 < 0.1 71,200[66]
    Wallis and Futuna < 1,000 < 0.1 < 0.1
    Western Sahara 528,000 99.6 < 0.1
    Yemen 24,023,000 99.0 1.5
    Zambia 59,000 0.4 < 0.1
    Zimbabwe 109,000 0.9 < 0.1
    South & Southeast Asia 1,005,507,000 24.8 62.1
    Middle East-North Africa 321,869,000 91.2 19.9
    Sub-Saharan Africa 242,544,000 29.6 15.0
    Europe 44,138,000 6.0 2.7
    Americas 5,256,000 0.6 0.3
    World Total 1,619,314,000 23.4 100.0
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  77. on 26 Jan 2013 at 6:26 pm 77.The messenger said …

    74.Anonymous, when he said that he is of the living ones he means everyone who is on Earth, because the people who are in heaven are already cleansed of thier sins, so therefore his main focus is on the people who still need to be cleaned of their sins(meaning the people on earth).

    He loves us all equally, whether we are on Earth or in Heaven, but his main focus is on the people on Earth because we still have to be cleaned of our sins.

  78. on 26 Jan 2013 at 8:36 pm 78.Burebista said …

    “there is an astonishing garrulousness to the comments made by Atheists to posts about religion that suggest not simply a lack of interest in, or even disdain for, religion but a competitive anger directed against persons of traditional religious faith.”

    It is a combination and fear and religious intolerance. They desire all to believe as they believe much as the Islamic jihadist.

  79. on 26 Jan 2013 at 9:02 pm 79.DPK said …

    “They desire all to believe as they believe much as the Islamic jihadist.”

    Says the person who trolls atheist websites trying to convince others (or is it yourself you are trying to convince) that their belief in an invisible man who lives in the sky, reads your thoughts, and will take you to a magical kingdom in the clouds when you die, is actually real.
    What’s wrong with this picture?

  80. on 26 Jan 2013 at 9:09 pm 80.DPK said …

    Lets review:

    re·li·gion
    /ri?lij?n/
    Noun
    The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.
    Details of belief as taught or discussed.
    Synonyms
    faith – belief – creed – denomination

    Atheism: not that.
    Next diversion.

  81. on 26 Jan 2013 at 9:26 pm 81.alex said …

    “It is a combination and fear and religious intolerance.”

    i fear the bullshit creationism you fuckers pimp. i fear the abortion clinic and the 9/11 bombers. i fear the homophobic and misogynistic legislation you fuckers champion. and so on..

    stop that bullshit religious intolerance. which group do you think is for secular religion you moron? do you even know what it is, you fuckin shit.

  82. on 26 Jan 2013 at 10:22 pm 82.Severin said …

    #74
    “It is a combination and fear and religious intolerance.”

    You, comming here to teach us what to think, forcing your belief system to us using lies, consider youtself tollerant?
    You showed yourself already as an intollerant liar and fraud, ready to do anything to force your beliefs to other people, and you are lying now, again.

    Who is averting you from your religion here?
    Who prevents you to believe whatever you please?

    What makes you so aggressive and so intollerant, to force your belief sysstem to other people?

  83. on 26 Jan 2013 at 10:25 pm 83.Severin said …

    I think it is a fear of being delusional.

  84. on 27 Jan 2013 at 12:44 am 84.The messenger said …

    82.Severin, atheists are afraid to believe in God because of the sins that they have commited.

  85. on 27 Jan 2013 at 12:51 am 85.The messenger said …

    Here is more proof of God.

    A geologist has recently discovers evidence supporting the existence of Noah’s flood.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/12/10/evidence-noahs-flood-ark-real-robert-ballard-archeologist-titanic_n_2273143.html

  86. on 27 Jan 2013 at 12:59 am 86.The messenger said …

    81.Severin, we are not forcing our religion on you, we are just expressing it.

    You on the other hand are constantly forcing Athiesm on us, you and your lies are bieng forced upon us by inconsiderate, intolerant, people like you.

    Stop forcing Athiesm on us.

  87. on 27 Jan 2013 at 2:17 am 87.Anonymous said …

    My loving brothers:
    What is religion:there are only two religions in the world. No religion has been made by god but except two:
    1) Man
    2) Woman
    and it is they(man,woman) that they made other religions not my father(GOD),if there is something other than this it is a lie.

  88. on 27 Jan 2013 at 2:18 am 88.A said …

    “Noun
    The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.
    Details of belief as taught or discussed.
    Synonyms
    faith – belief – creed – denomination

    Atheism: not that.”

    So Buddhism is not a religion either?

    Next selective definition!! LOL!!

    Now being rationale, look at this definition from Dictionary.com

    “the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices”

    Yep, atheism is a religion all day long. Sorry fellas, but everyone recognizes it as true. Just as marriage has been redefined so has religion to include atheism.

  89. on 27 Jan 2013 at 2:23 am 89.alex said …

    “if there is something other than this it is a lie.”

    who the fuck are you? troll #57,138? dumbass, regurgitating, scared, delusional shit.

  90. on 27 Jan 2013 at 2:54 am 90.Anonymous said …

    Mr. Alex you asked me who am I, I am your mother’s son so as you.

  91. on 27 Jan 2013 at 2:59 am 91.alex said …

    “Yep, atheism is a religion all day long”

    uhmm, just because you say it, it don’t mean it’s true.

    how about “all theists are child molesters”? you like?

    atheists don’t believe in your bullshit god. an example is a newborn. what’s a newborn’s beliefs and practices? you fucken moron.

  92. on 27 Jan 2013 at 3:02 am 92.alex said …

    “I am your mother’s son so as you”

    because you say so? rewind. who the fuck are you?

    any idea what a fucking atheist is? said before, you are troll #57,138 -> plonk! motherfucker.

  93. on 27 Jan 2013 at 3:12 am 93.Anonymous said …

    My brother Alex, you said me a regurgitating man do u know what is the meaning of (regurgitate) to repeat facts without understanding them.

    If u said it so then u too believe that what i say and what is written is a fact.checkmate

  94. on 27 Jan 2013 at 3:17 am 94.D said …

    My brother Alex, you said me a regurgitating man do u know what is the meaning of (regurgitate) to repeat facts without understanding them.

    If u said it so then u too believe that what i say and what is written is a fact.checkmate

  95. on 27 Jan 2013 at 3:23 am 95.D said …

    I am your mother’s son so as you are of your mother.

  96. on 27 Jan 2013 at 3:24 am 96.alex said …

    linefeed, motherfucker, you know who you are. get in the back.

  97. on 27 Jan 2013 at 3:49 am 97.DPK said …

    Mr. alex though i am an atheist too but i write more good lines than you write,you can see it above,i don’t understand what u write and what you try to say through your lines, you better keep yourself out of this otherwise you’ll make atheist fall.now i have also started believing a bit in god,by the saying of that man who made us brothers of him and you always get trap into your sayings.so you better keep out of this because you are also a believer of god.

  98. on 27 Jan 2013 at 4:38 am 98.The messenger said …

    What happen now to atheists they have also started believing in GOD by that man who made you his loving brothers.He is really the friend of Jesus. Then now the whole world is full of faith and believe in GOD. the whole world.

  99. on 27 Jan 2013 at 4:41 am 99.Lou (DFW) said …

    88.ASS, in another fit of pathological lying said …

    Now being rationale, look at this definition from Dictionary.com

    “3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices”

    DISBELIEF IS NOT BELIEF! NOT PRACTICING SOMETHING IS NOT A PRACTICE.

    THIS IS THE ACTUAL ENTRY:

    1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

  100. on 27 Jan 2013 at 4:42 am 100.The messenger said …

    What happen now to atheists they have also started believing in GOD by that man who made you his loving brothers.He is really the friend of Jesus.he is really the son of GOD. Then now the whole world is full of faith and believe in GOD. the whole world.

  101. on 27 Jan 2013 at 4:47 am 101.DPK said …

    Oh Jesus, now we have another crazy fuckhead running amuck. I guess he only drank half of the Kool-aide.

  102. on 27 Jan 2013 at 5:05 am 102.The messenger said …

    I did not post comments 98 and 99, my last comment was 86.

    Whom ever was impersonateing me in comments 98 and 99 must stop imedently.

  103. on 27 Jan 2013 at 5:05 am 103.The messenger said …

    on 27 Jan 2013 at 12:51 am 85.The messenger said …
    Here is more proof of God.
    A geologist has recently discovers evidence supporting the existence of Noah’s flood.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/12/10/evidence-noahs-flood-ark-real-robert-ballard-archeologist-titanic_n_2273143.html

  104. on 27 Jan 2013 at 5:05 am 104.The messenger said …

    on 27 Jan 2013 at 12:59 am 86.The messenger said …
    81.Severin, we are not forcing our religion on you, we are just expressing it.
    You on the other hand are constantly forcing Athiesm on us, you and your lies are bieng forced upon us by inconsiderate, intolerant, people like you.
    Stop forcing Athiesm on us.

  105. on 27 Jan 2013 at 5:17 am 105.DPK said …

    Now being rationale, look at this definition from Dictionary.com
    “the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices”

    Well, since you are claiming to be “rationale” I guess that makes republicans a religion too? Why are you so desperate to make other people fit into your narrow way of thinking?

  106. on 27 Jan 2013 at 5:49 am 106.Anonymous said …

    From where did Jesus name came out from your mouth when u were having no belief in him you also got trapped like alex brother.it means u also believe in him(JESUS and GOD) aswell.and so it is true that if u believe in him(JESUS) then you also believe in God.

  107. on 27 Jan 2013 at 6:06 am 107.Anonymous said …

    From where did Jesus name came out from your mouth when u were having no belief in him you also got trapped like alex brother.it means u also believe in him(JESUS and GOD) aswell.and so it is true that if u believe in him(JESUS) then you also believe in God..

  108. on 27 Jan 2013 at 6:50 am 108.Severin said …

    #86
    “Stop forcing Athiesm on us.”

    But, we are on an atheist blog here!
    Why don’t you go to a Muslim blog and tell them that you are only “expressing” your religion there, and that you want them to stop forcing their bullshits on you?

    Now, when you clerly see that “expressing” your religion on this blog gives absolutely no results at all, what do you want to do more?
    Can you kindly tell us what, the hell, do you want fromf us?

  109. on 27 Jan 2013 at 7:01 am 109.Severin said …

    #86
    “Stop forcing Athiesm on us.””

    When did I come to your home, your church, on your blog, or in your street, to “express” my atheism?

    What is your goal?
    What do you want to achieve?
    What is the PURPOSE of “EPRESSING” (parroting) your religion here, on this blog?

  110. on 27 Jan 2013 at 8:13 am 110.Anonymous said …

    My loving brothers my goal is to achieve you all. I know some day you all will remember me, my friend Jesus and my Father not by bad deeds but by good deeds. when u’ll be going through test ask father to forgive your sins and he’ll forgive u but if u want that your sins shall be forgiven then you also must forgive others. MY ßrothers at the time of the test u all remember me and the message which I am telling u, for my fathers spirit is in me,as it is in my friend JESUS, for GOD send me to give light to the blind ones and to make the deaf ones to listen the sayings of my father. for i walk onto his paths as my friend did and the one who’ll walk on to my father saying he’ll be with him as he is in me for I work according to his sayings and then if u’ll say to the mountain to move by having faith in him (GOD), it will move.Brothers y do u all ask me- that when I came onto your street, in your house and in ur blog but i tell unto u the truth that you all are in me,in my friend and in my father. Love him and the one who loves him shall also walk upon his(god) saying.I TOLD U THE TRUTH.

  111. on 27 Jan 2013 at 12:33 pm 111.Lou (DFW) said …

    105.DPK said …

    “Why are you so desperate to make other people fit into your narrow way of thinking?”

    Because the only way he can defend and support his delusion is to convince others to join it. If we all believe in his imaginary god (the one for which he can’t produce any evidence) and accept his god-given absolute moral code (the one that he can’t produce) then he doesn’t have to defend or support it. In that way, his delusion is safe.

  112. on 27 Jan 2013 at 12:42 pm 112.Severin said …

    #110
    Why don’t you go to a Muslim blog too, to tell your beloved brethren that they worship a wrong god, and that only your god is the right one.

    We, here, don’t worship any.
    You are on a wrong address!

  113. on 27 Jan 2013 at 1:30 pm 113.The messenger said …

    108.Severin, I am not talking about the blog, I am talking about the everyday world.

  114. on 27 Jan 2013 at 2:31 pm 114.Anonymous said …

    My loving brothers now you have faith according to my sayings that much is enough.when u got trapped by your means, now u all are finding a way to move out, y this is so because you all don’t want to hear the fact.you all are like a deaf man who don’t hear other’s sayings but you all continuosly keep on saying your views because you don’t want to hear others.

  115. on 27 Jan 2013 at 2:37 pm 115.Anonymous said …

    Wow, asking Hor and Messenger to explain the Christian moral code shut put things into a nose-dive, didn’t it!

    You know, boys and girls, no matter her desperately you try to redefine words and concepts, none of that changes the fact that you don’t have one iota of proof that your bronze-age storm gods are real.

    Two thousand years ago their excuse was that they were uneducated, gullible, easily manipulated, and desperate to believe.

    Your excuses today for the laughable fairy-story of a god who makes man out of dust and woman from a rib? It seems not much has changed. You Christians are still, uneducated, gullible, easily manipulated, and desperate to believe. The difference now being that in the 21st century you have graduated from uneducated to having been brainwashed and being mentally ill.

    Gods exist? Don’t be so fucking stupid. Grow up Christians. Grow the fuck up!

  116. on 27 Jan 2013 at 2:40 pm 116.alex said …

    let us all hold hands and pray to Allah. kumbaya. i’m sorry, i’ve been wrong all this time. forgive me Allah, oh Great One. I’m a piece of shit.

  117. on 27 Jan 2013 at 4:20 pm 117.The messenger said …

    Brother 114.Anonymous, I know the truth, and the truth is that God is real.

    I have shown you proof of his existence, yet you still live in denial. I pitty you misguided people.

  118. on 27 Jan 2013 at 4:28 pm 118.The messenger said …

    Brother 115.Anonymous, it is not our fault that you lack the mental capability to understand the moral code of God.

    We have tried to explain it to you countless times, but once again you have fallen prey to your own stupidity and denial and once again have failed to comprehend the virtues that are contained within the holy scriptures known as the bible.
    I pitty you.

  119. on 27 Jan 2013 at 5:41 pm 119.Severin said …

    #113
    “… I am not talking about the blog, I am talking about the everyday world.”

    Yet, this is not everyday world, but an atheis blog.

    What do you want from us?

  120. on 27 Jan 2013 at 6:31 pm 120.The messenger said …

    119.Severin, I want Atheists to stop forcing there beliefs on others, and I want Athiests to be more excepting of religious beliefs.

  121. on 27 Jan 2013 at 7:11 pm 121.Burebista said …

    Severin,

    When did this become your blog? This is a blog that discusses religion, including yours. Why don’t you get off and go to a blog that discusses atheism? That would be a very quiet blog since so many of you are afraid to admit believing in anything.

    I understand why. If you admit to believing in anything then you would have to meet a standard of proof you cannot fulfill.

  122. on 27 Jan 2013 at 7:33 pm 122.DPK said …

    Funny you should make that claim Burbee…. I don’t recall you ever “discussing” anything here. All ou ever do is make unfounded claims and demands of others and then run away. You think it makes you clever, but everyone else silly sees you as a full of shite windbag.
    So, if you are now ready to discuss something, why don’t you start with presenting some evidence that anything you claim about the reality of your supernatural god is actually true?
    I’ll put some coffee on while you go change socks.

  123. on 27 Jan 2013 at 9:51 pm 123.Severin said …

    #121
    “Severin,”

    Yes, mouse?

    “If you admit to believing in anything then you would have to meet a standard of proof you cannot fulfill.”

    Didn’t you say there was a god?
    No, you wouldn’t dare saying it, would you?

    I mean, in that case you would have to meet a standard of proof you cannot fulfill.

    Lies don’t count.

  124. on 27 Jan 2013 at 10:02 pm 124.Severin said …

    #120
    “119.Severin, I want Atheists to stop forcing there beliefs on others, and I want Athiests to be more excepting of religious beliefs.”

    And I want to visit the moon.

    How about zillion of churches (mosques, temples, …) aggressively forcing their religions very, very loudly: big bells included, singing on minarets, drums, trompets, glamour, TV propaganda, radio, newspapers, magazines, door to door recruiting, zillion of sites on Internet, spending enormeous money, religious education in schools, …

    You tell ME to stop something!
    Tell THEM.

  125. on 27 Jan 2013 at 10:25 pm 125.Severin said …

    … AND, of course, I have nothing against it, I somehow survive all that noice and direct pressure to my organs and my mind, unless some idiot tries to teach ME directly how to live and what to think.
    Live and let live is my motto, I menage somehow to stay aside of it, unless some idiot … oh, I already said that!

    THEN I get angry.

    Now, please, tell me when and where did I force my “beliefs” on you?
    It was YOU who came on this blog and started teaching us how to live and what to think, what is right and what is wrong, not I.
    You DID come here to spread your bullshit religion on us.

    Miserable liar!

    Go to Pope and tell him to stop forcing his bullshit religion on me, using all possible (and impossible) means.

    You are welcome to continue making idiot of yourself on this blog.

  126. on 27 Jan 2013 at 10:41 pm 126.Anonymous said …

    Same old Horatio nonsense.

    It parrots back other people’s comments in order to avoid having to provide answers, and wonders why no-one buys into his sock-puppet act.

    It’s obvious that you’ve given up even pretending to be involved in a reasonable argument, so why are you here?

    You’ve been exposed as a fraud and a troll. Your dishonesty is on show every time you post. You telegraph your intentions every time you accuse people of your own actions and, somehow, somehow, you think you’re “winning”.

    Do you think “winning” is shutting down any conversation that highlights your, and every other believer’s, inability to prove (you need to look up what proof is btw) that your god exists?

    OK then. You “win”. It’s obvious how afraid you are to put your beliefs to the test. Congratulations on winning. You are an Ostrich. How’s the hole in the sand treating you, Horati(i)o?

  127. on 27 Jan 2013 at 11:16 pm 127.Severin said …

    #124
    “… and I want Athiests to be more excepting of religious beliefs.”

    Did you mean “accepting”?
    A Freudian slip?

    It seems that you are beginning to be more accepting to atheism.

    Good for you!

  128. on 28 Jan 2013 at 3:17 am 128.Lou (DFW) said …

    121.Burp said …

    “When did this become your blog? This is a blog that discusses religion, including yours. Why don’t you get off and go to a blog that discusses atheism?”

    So-called “Atheism” is religion when the sock-puppet theists claim it is, but not when it’s inconvenient.

  129. on 28 Jan 2013 at 3:39 am 129.The messenger said …

    Brother 124.Severin, we are not forcing our religion on you, we are simply expressing it.
    Tell me, what is wrong with expressing our religious beliefs? We have a right to believe in whatever we want, you have no right to dictate what we believe in.

    You on the other hand are constantly forcing Athiesim on us by banning prayer in schools, banning crosses in public areas and constantly discriminating against us.

    You force Athiesm on us by stealing our right to religion, you should be ashamed of your self.

  130. on 28 Jan 2013 at 3:44 am 130.The messenger said …

    We do not force you to believe in God, we simply give you the option of believing or not believing.

  131. on 28 Jan 2013 at 4:39 am 131.DPK said …

    And back to the topic of this thread… ehem, I just saw a TV commercial for this fraud Christian Mingle where the girl says something like, “without Christian Mingle, I’m sure I never would have found the Lord’s match for me.”
    What the fuck kind of an all powerful god is that? God picked a mate for you, but he needs you to join a website and pay them money in order to fullfill his divine will?
    Seriously? Is there no limit to the level of absolute bullshit that people will believe? I think Justice should go after them for false advertising… Find God’s Match for You…. prove you do that, or stop selling it to suckers.

  132. on 28 Jan 2013 at 5:19 am 132.Anonymous said …

    Finally, here’s the basis for the believer’s moral code.

    I’m surprised that messy didn’t post this link earlier.

    http://youtu.be/tz3EEqtcJME

  133. on 28 Jan 2013 at 6:37 am 133.DPK said …

    Nice!
    Finally someone explained it.
    Thanks.
    I will still laughing at Burpee admonishing Severin about this being a “place for discussion”. That was almost as funny as the time he ridiculed me for not knowing that Mambia was a large city in India that used to be called Bangcock! Remember that? He called me an idiot for not knowing that.
    Burpee lives in a strange world, but the video has it exactly right… 3 out of 10 is enough in their minds. So I guess it’s to be expected.

  134. on 28 Jan 2013 at 12:23 pm 134.Lou(DFW) said …

    120.The messenger said …

    “I want Atheists to stop forcing there beliefs on others…”

    (sigh) Disbelief is not belief.

  135. on 28 Jan 2013 at 1:07 pm 135.Anonymous said …

    Messenger sounds more like Ass everyday. Why is that?

  136. on 28 Jan 2013 at 3:48 pm 136.DPK said …

    133.Anonymous said …

    “Messenger sounds more like Ass everyday. Why is that?”

    They are both brainwashed by the same sources and indoctrination.

  137. on 29 Jan 2013 at 12:36 am 137.The messenger said …

    Brother 131.DPK, that lady using Christian mingle was part of God’s plan, that is why she stated (without Christian mingle, I would have never found God’s match for me without Christian mingle).

    She was simply stating that her use of Christian mingle was ment to be, thus it was part of God’s plan.

    You have failed again.

  138. on 29 Jan 2013 at 12:37 am 138.The messenger said …

    Brother 131.DPK, Athiests such as your self “believe” that there is no God.

    Therefor it is a belief,

  139. on 29 Jan 2013 at 12:45 am 139.The messenger said …

    132.Anonymous, the basis of Christian belief is based on the Bible and the Ten Commandments.

  140. on 29 Jan 2013 at 3:14 am 140.Lesbian carwasher said …

    @ messenger

    ok, you are correct with how athiests have a belief.
    but christian mingle is a massive fail XD

  141. on 29 Jan 2013 at 3:21 am 141.Lesbian carwasher said …

    XD
    i forgot to add this
    Noahs flood couldnt happen due to the fact that it would require all water on earth to melt, if this were to be true, our planet would still be flooded

  142. on 29 Jan 2013 at 4:15 am 142.The messenger said …

    140.Lesbian carwasher, the story of Noah is indeed possible because after the rain stopped after the 40 days and 40 nights God caused the water to recede(probably back to the polar ice cap.

    Here is the link that I posted in my past comment just I case you wish to access it again

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/12/10/evidence-noahs-flood-ark-real-robert-ballard-archeologist-titanic_n_2273143.html

  143. on 29 Jan 2013 at 4:18 am 143.The messenger said …

    140.Lesbian carwasher, I mean no offence when I ask this, I am simply curious.

    Are you actually a lesbian or is that just a part of your commenting name.

  144. on 29 Jan 2013 at 4:19 am 144.The messenger said …

    on 29 Jan 2013 at 4:15 am 142.The messenger said … Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    140.Lesbian carwasher, the story of Noah is indeed possible because after the rain stopped after the 40 days and 40 nights God caused the water to recede(probably back to the polar ice caps).
    Here is the link that I posted in my past comment just I case you wish to access it again
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/12/10/evidence-noahs-flood-ark-real-robert-ballard-archeologist-titanic_n_2273143.html

  145. on 31 Jan 2013 at 1:37 pm 145.Lesbian carwasher said …

    its a reference to a my little pony parody series

    and noahs story COULDNT happen, because raining for 40 days wouldnt flood the earth, and water cannot suddenly freeze back to ice, providing it isnt in a cold enough area.

  146. on 31 Jan 2013 at 2:26 pm 146.Lou(DFW) said …

    85.The messenger said …

    “Here is more proof of God.

    A geologist has recently discovers evidence supporting the existence of Noah’s flood.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/12/10/evidence-noahs-flood-ark-real-robert-ballard-archeologist-titanic_n_2273143.html

    If that’s your “proof,” then here’s proof that’s wrong:

    Claim Robert Ballard discovered Noah’s Flood in the Black Sea is not correct

    http://creation.com/Robert-Ballard-did-not-discover-Noahs-Flood

  147. on 31 Jan 2013 at 5:42 pm 147.Lesbian carwasher said …

    Lol
    what id like to know is this
    TO ALL THEISTS
    how did Noah, one man, one single man
    MAKE A FRIGGEN BOAT THAT COULD CARRY TWO OF EVERY ANIMAL

    or for that matter, how did he not get eaten by the animals, or how did he collect every single celled animal without a microscope?

  148. on 31 Jan 2013 at 9:52 pm 148.Anonymous said …

    Lou that is too funny! Using Ken Ham to debunk HuffPo!

  149. on 31 Jan 2013 at 11:06 pm 149.The messenger said …

    Brother 145.Lesbian carwasher, an all powerful being aka God, can infact cause the ice on the north and south poles to thaw out and then return to the north and south plea and refreeze.

    So therefore it is possible that the flood did occur.

  150. on 31 Jan 2013 at 11:09 pm 150.The messenger said …

    Brother 147.Lesbian carwasher, Noah did not build the boat by himself, Noah’s four sons helped him and God helped him too.

  151. on 31 Jan 2013 at 11:13 pm 151.The messenger said …

    Brother 147.Lesbian carwasher, Noah did not collect any of the animals, God collected the animals and brought them to the Ark.

    And God protected Noah and his family from being attacked by the animals.

  152. on 31 Jan 2013 at 11:28 pm 152.The messenger said …

    146.Lou(DFW), the link that you posted is filled with spotty reasurch and small scale thinking. The scientist that supposedly found your so called proof that the flood didn’t happen is misguided. The amount of water that was held in the Mediterranean sea at that time period could have flooded all of the parts of Earth that were imhabnited by humans at that time period.

    This the flood is possible.

  153. on 31 Jan 2013 at 11:30 pm 153.The messenger said …

    On the last line the word “this” was suppose to be “thus”.
    My bad.

  154. on 01 Feb 2013 at 4:37 am 154.Lesbian carwasher said …

    Sorry messenger, but as the laws of physics go.
    saying god did it doesnt count :( so sorry XD
    and 4 sons, a man, and a being that cannot affect the earth cannot make a boat that large within say?..
    7 months?

  155. on 01 Feb 2013 at 4:38 am 155.Lesbian carwasher said …

    XD not to mention that if “GOD” did all this magical stuff back then
    why dont we see any polar ice caps melting and refreezing today?

  156. on 01 Feb 2013 at 1:50 pm 156.The messenger said …

    154.Lesbian carwasher, God is an all powerful being, he can build a boost that big.

  157. on 01 Feb 2013 at 1:51 pm 157.The messenger said …

    on 01 Feb 2013 at 1:50 pm 156.The messenger said … Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    154.Lesbian carwasher, God is an all powerful being, he can build a boat that big.

  158. on 01 Feb 2013 at 1:55 pm 158.The messenger said …

    155.Lesbian carwasher, because God does not want another world flood.

    He made the flood happen the last time because amamkind had become so corrupt with sin that they needed to be destroyed. But God loved mankind so much, he decided to allow the last good people on Earth to enter the ark so they could survive the flood and repopulate the earth.

  159. on 03 Feb 2013 at 4:03 am 159.Lesbian carwasher said …

    again, saying goditit
    doesnt count

  160. on 03 Feb 2013 at 6:22 am 160.s0l0m0n said …

    LesbianCarwasher,

    ‘how did he collect every single celled animal without a microscope?’

    You are astoundingly stupid. Noah need not use any microscope or tools to collect the single celled animals.Noah even don’t have to do nothing. They are well ready on the backs, feet or stomach of the bigger animals.

  161. on 04 Feb 2013 at 5:19 am 161.Lesbian carwasher said …

    you realise there are plenty of single celled organisms that live in areas that are in crazy places, like water droplets

  162. on 05 Feb 2013 at 9:17 pm 162.Anon said …

    It’s very simple, christards are fucked up in the head.

  163. on 07 Feb 2013 at 7:35 am 163.Lesbian carwasher said …

    yeah they sortof are…

    me “how did he get all the animals on board, how did the ice melt? how did it freeze? how did they not eat him?”

    christian defying all logic “GOD DID IT *trollface*”

  164. on 07 Feb 2013 at 9:29 pm 164.MattD said …

    160.s0l0m0n said … Feb 2013 at 6:22 am

    By demonstrating that you have to give an answer outside the knowledge contained in a book you claim “proves” the existence of a deity, your entire argument falls apart.

    Nobody claiming their religion has all the answers would ever need to clearly demonstrate a desire to make them up, or use established science to answer questions.

  165. on 08 Feb 2013 at 1:58 am 165.s0l0m0n said …

    MattD,

    Everything…be it science or philosophy is covered in the true book.Let’s debate on any subject if you dare.

  166. on 08 Feb 2013 at 2:35 pm 166.alex said …

    “Let’s debate on any subject if you dare”

    what, so you can keep pulling crap out of you bullshit koorahn? try the Vedas. predates your shit by hundreds of years. heard of it, the Vedas?

    how the fuck do you debate a recording shithead like you? you’ll just keep repeating shit over and over again while referring to your bullshit delusion called the holy book. you don’t even try to reconstruct any of the shit you keep blathering. bye motherfucker.

  167. on 08 Feb 2013 at 2:42 pm 167.MrQ said …

    Communicating to Sol, the ticking vest man, is virtually pointless. When debating, everything conveniently flows back to “the book”. Anyone thinking he/it is unable to pass a turing test?

  168. on 08 Feb 2013 at 2:59 pm 168.Lou(DFW) said …

    165.s0l0m0n said …

    “Let’s debate on any subject if you dare.”

    Let’s start by debating the validity of your religion. In order to do so we must first establish which is your religion. Answer – IF YOU DARE.

  169. on 08 Feb 2013 at 3:46 pm 169.Martin said …

    s0l0m0n.

    MattD is just Lou. Why don’t we continue the discussion on atheist morality. They don’t but we can.

    Lou has stated that each atheist declares his own morality. He further stated society declares what is moral and immoral. In other words, all morality is relative. DPK came to his aid to clear up a few of his comments.

    My follow up to that is, if how can any atheist declare any action to be immoral? How can they condemn the actions of a Mao, Pol Pot or a Castro?

  170. on 08 Feb 2013 at 3:58 pm 170.alex said …

    “How can they condemn the actions of a Mao, Pol Pot or a Castro?”

    you’re an idiot. this is a wild goose chase and i’ll stop it with one word, “easy”. now, get the fuck out.

  171. on 08 Feb 2013 at 4:05 pm 171.DPK said …

    Alex is correct Martin… easily.

    Now, since you brought up the subject of absolute morality again, let me ask you this….
    The bible clearly shows us that it is ok to own slaves, and to capture and keep slaves from conquered nations, and to commit genocide on conquered nations.
    Every rational modern person, yourself included, “KNOWS” this is immoral and not ok.
    How do you know? How can a theist declare any of these things to be immoral?

  172. on 08 Feb 2013 at 4:22 pm 172.alex said …

    ‘Every rational modern person, yourself included, “KNOWS” this is immoral and not ok.
    How do you know? How can a theist declare any of these things to be immoral?’

    ..chirp, chirp… silence…

    ..prepare the sock batallion and mobilize the diversion missiles. attack with massive bullshit force to overwhelm the godless gooks.

  173. on 08 Feb 2013 at 4:23 pm 173.Lou(DFW) said …

    168.ASS/Mitch/Martin said …

    “MattD is just Lou.”

    No, I’m not. But we do know that you posted under different names.

    “Why don’t we continue the discussion on atheist morality. They don’t but we can.”

    After that you can discuss Santa Clausian morality. Both are equally true and relevant.

    Or you could discuss your alleged imaginary god-given absolute moral code – oh, but wait, you can’t produce it. So rather than discuss it, you invent an atheist moral code and pretend to debate it. When you get finished playing with each other, get back to the adults with your alleged god-given absolute moral code, then will have a real discussion where the adults deal in facts, not childish lies.

    “In other words, all morality is relative.”

    In other words? LOL! That’s exactly what I wrote, dummy.

  174. on 08 Feb 2013 at 5:45 pm 174.s0l0m0n said …

    Lou(DFW),

    “Let’s start by debating the validity of your religion. In order to do so we must first establish which is your religion. Answer – IF YOU DARE.”

    Not just yet…
    I won’t let you took advantage. Theists are cunning…They can’t be fooled.

    Let’s have some more fun fooling the atheists first.

    Points to ponder…

    What is nature???
    Does it have brains??
    The atheists are ((((BLUFFING))))

  175. on 08 Feb 2013 at 5:58 pm 175.s0l0m0n said …

    Martin,

    “you’re an idiot. this is a wild goose chase and i’ll stop it with one word, “easy”. now, get the fuck out.”

    See…alex just can’t answer a simple straight forward questions when smacked on the face.

  176. on 08 Feb 2013 at 6:30 pm 176.MattD said …

    168.Martin said …

    Actually, I sometimes use the name “NoMore” but I’m not “Lou”. I don’t really know what your trying to prove by making that claim, unless it’s projecting your own behavior on others out of guilt.

    165.s0l0m0n said …

    I’m not a child. I know you’re making a challenge because you don’t think you can lose, and that’s pretty sad.

    I’ve had people smarter and stronger than I “dare” me to wrestle them or take a mental challenge. These people want to win before the contest has even begun because they have low self esteem, and I can only feel sorry for them.

  177. on 08 Feb 2013 at 6:31 pm 177.MattD said …

    168.Martin said …

    Actually, I sometimes use the name “NoMore” but I’m not “Lou”. I don’t really know what your trying to prove by making that claim, unless it’s projecting your own behavior on others out of guilt.

    165.s0l0m0n said …

    I’m not a child. I know you’re making a challenge because you don’t think you can lose, and that’s pretty sad.

    I’ve had people smarter and stronger than I “dare” me to wrestle them or take a mental challenge. These people want to win before the contest has even begun perhaps due to low self esteem and I can only feel sorry for them.

  178. on 08 Feb 2013 at 7:31 pm 178.Martin said …

    “In other words, all morality is relative.”

    Good, maybe when can make some progress. How can any atheist declare any action to be immoral? How can they condemn the actions of a Mao, Pol Pot or a Castro? If it is all relative then it is all morally acceptable Lou?

    Follow up, it their actions can be deemed immoral, who gets to make that call?

  179. on 08 Feb 2013 at 7:36 pm 179.Lou(DFW) said …

    173.AA/Mitch/Martin said …

    “Good, maybe when can make some progress.”

    No, we’re not making any progress because you won’t answer any of our questions about the alleged god-given absolute morality. If you want to “make some progress,” then please answer – does it exist? If yes, then please provide it.

  180. on 08 Feb 2013 at 8:28 pm 180.alex said …

    “Follow up, it their actions can be deemed immoral, who gets to make that call?”

    another wild goose chase. ask them. you looking for an atheist rep? ain’t none. next.

    now about your bullshit god morals? you don’t get to ask all the questions.

  181. on 08 Feb 2013 at 8:33 pm 181.JoeyS said …

    I have been reading this exchange for a while. I’m personally kind of undecided about God. I was raised to believe, and I guess I want to believe, but anymore I’m just not sure.
    I thought I would just chime in an add my observation.
    I’ve noticed that the atheists here tend to be rather nasty and negative at times. I don’t know why that is, but you people tend to not hear what you have to say when you say it in a negative way.
    On the other hand, it seems the theists here actually never DO answer any of the direct, and very valid, questions the atheists pose to them. They always seem to be very evasive and well, not very honest in their answers.
    To someone like me, who is on the fence about belief in God, THAT kind of makes me wonder what they are trying to hide, and why they won’t actually debate the atheists honestly.
    I guess what I’m saying is, I’ve always been raised to believe in God, but I have never felt his presence in my life. There are a lot of things about God, and prayer, and evil, and the bible that honestly just don’t add up to me. And, when I ask a minister or someone with a lot of faith about it, I never get any straight answers, and I’m ultimately told I have to just accept it on faith. It doesn’t seem logical to me that an all powerful God would only give us answers that don’t make sense. And then I come on boards like these, and I see theists always going out of their way to avoid giving a straight answer to anything.
    But then again, I see atheists who seem very angry and mean spirited and it makes me wonder where all this anger comes from. I don’t know, maybe it’s just frustration from dealing with the theists who don’t seem interested in debating honestly, so maybe that’s it. I don’t know. It all leaves me more confused than anything.

  182. on 08 Feb 2013 at 9:05 pm 182.DPK said …

    Martin… I noticed once again you avoided answering my direct question to you in #170.

    How can you, as a theist who believes in an absolute moral code given by a god, make a judgement that slavery is immoral? Where is this moral code that absolutely tells you when it is ok to own another human or not?
    If you have an absolute moral code, as you claim… why don;t you want to show it to us? What are you hiding?

  183. on 08 Feb 2013 at 9:20 pm 183.Martin said …

    JoeyS,

    You need to learn something about logic. Atheist attempt to use fallacies like the Red Herring to get a thread off topic. I asked a very valid question to Lou that he has refused to answer. Why doesn’t that bother you? Continue to monitor, Lou will not answer the follow up to his claim.

    The atheists, in order to avoid the question, use a Red Herring as means not to answer this question. Anyone who understands logic will not allow the opponent to use such tactics.

    As far as God, I suggest you research this on your own rather than coming to a blog like this that is strictly entertainment. You need to determine if your five senses represent all their is to reality or it is possible reality exist outside the five senses. Not to mention, do you want to live a life full of anger and animosity toward others?

  184. on 08 Feb 2013 at 9:24 pm 184.Martin said …

    JoeyS

    One more point. Theist have answered all these questions WAY back in the past many times on here, on the web and in hundreds of books.

  185. on 08 Feb 2013 at 9:30 pm 185.The messenger said …

    Amen to that statement, brother 178.Martin.

  186. on 08 Feb 2013 at 9:33 pm 186.alex said …

    joey, how atheists act has no bearing on your conviction. use your head. foul language bother you? misogynists, homophobia, intolerance, slam it down your throat religion is far worse.

    idiot martin claims he has answered many questions, but a simple one such as producing a god moral code should be easy, but he can’t and he won’t. he’s always dodging and making up red herring shit. search the blog and make up your own mind.

    this is an atheist site. theists come in here combative by default. all atheists are not the same. salty language is part of the world. it’s your upbringing that’s making you cringe. get over it. your bullshit god moral code is doing it.

  187. on 08 Feb 2013 at 9:35 pm 187.Lou(DFW) said …

    78.ASS/Mitch/Martin said …

    “You need to learn something about logic.”

    It doesn’t require any “logic” to understand that Zeus, Thor, Allah, and your god are all imaginary.

    “I asked a very valid question to Lou that he has refused to answer.”

    B.S. You didn’t ask any “vary valid question” of me. I answered your question until the point that you refuse to answer mine.

    “Lou will not answer the follow up to his claim.”

    What “claim?”

  188. on 08 Feb 2013 at 9:37 pm 188.Lou(DFW) said …

    179.ASS/Mitch/Martin said …

    “One more point. Theist have answered all these questions WAY back in the past many times on here, on the web and in hundreds of books.”

    LOL! Yes Joey, he just admitted that he’s doesn’t answer questions here because – DRUM ROLL PLEASE – somebody else already answered them “on the web and in hundreds of books!”

    Aren’t you glad science doesn’t work that way?

  189. on 08 Feb 2013 at 9:39 pm 189.Lou(DFW) said …

    179.ASS/Mitch/Martin said …

    “Theist have answered all these questions WAY back in the past many times on here, on the web and in hundreds of books.”

    Please provide a link and a book title that contains the god-given absolute moral code.

  190. on 08 Feb 2013 at 9:42 pm 190.Lou(DFW) said …

    176.JoeyS said …

    “I don’t know, maybe it’s just frustration from dealing with the theists who don’t seem interested in debating honestly, so maybe that’s it. I don’t know. It all leaves me more confused than anything.”

    It shouldn’t. The foundation of theism IS dishonesty. That’s why theists cannot, repeat, CANNOT, debate about their imaginary god in an honest way.

  191. on 08 Feb 2013 at 10:29 pm 191.alex said …

    “I suggest you research this on your own rather than coming to a blog like this..”

    yeah, let martin decide how you do your research. no contrarian sites like this one. stick to the mosques. right s0l0m0n? in case you haven’t been paying attention, ole s0l is the resident shy mooslum. oops, am i being nasty and negative? sorry.

  192. on 09 Feb 2013 at 2:47 am 192.Anonymous said …

    Martin/Mitch/Ass/etc said “As far as God, I suggest you research this on your own rather than coming to a blog like this that is strictly entertainment.”

    There you have his admission in black and white.

    First, he admits that he doesn’t want theists to research their beliefs in the open intellectual market. Second, to him, this blog is pure entertainment.

    When he tries to bait you all back into his diversions, please remember that his position is that this blog is not a medium for honest discussion, but it it is his *entertainment*.

    Hence, you can never expect Martin under any of his guises to participate here in any other medium than as a game.

    Another word for his confession is trolling.

  193. on 09 Feb 2013 at 4:37 am 193.s0l0m0n said …

    JoeyS,

    In the true religion you get entertainment as well as truth.
    The true religion is as practical & clear cut. Tell me which part of it does not give straight answers and lets have a further debate on it.
    Ahh….as for the nagging of the atheists for my faith that I KIV…..That is called….Strategy…
    Whaa….ka…ka…ka…

  194. on 09 Feb 2013 at 4:41 am 194.JoeyS said …

    on 08 Feb 2013 at 9:20 pm 183.Martin said …
    JoeyS,
    “You need to learn something about logic. Atheist attempt to use fallacies like the Red Herring to get a thread off topic. I asked a very valid question to Lou that he has refused to answer. Why doesn’t that bother you? Continue to monitor, Lou will not answer the follow up to his claim.”

    Well sorry, I don’t see any “red herrings” like you talk about. You asked
    Lou how an atheist can ever consider something to be wrong. But that’s relly a Sicily question on your part, isn’t it? How could anyone who believes in some different god than you judge something to be right or wrong? Lots of times, my minister and religious councilers have told me that I have to look into my own heart to figure out what is right and wrong. Not everything is covered by the Ten Commandments, is it? The Ten Commandments doesn’t say “do not rape”or “don’t own slaves”. It does say, don’t kill, but we all know there are times when we have to kill, or even when it is more moral to kill than not. Ultimately, we all have to make those kinds of decisions for ourselves, which is what I think Lou is saying. So, that makes sense to me, anyway. I’d say he is being honest, snd you seem to be the one refusing to answer questions. Sorry, but that’s how I see it.
    I see religious people all the time say things about god which clearly aren’t true. That doesn’t mean that god isn’t real, but it makes me wonder why they can’t see it themselves. Like you Martin, you say the questions others ask you have been answered before… Well if you don’t want to answer them for people, why are you here?
    I’m sorry, when it comes to god and religion, I tried. Many times I prayed to god to understand why what people tell me about god just doesn’t seem to match what I actually see in real life. I have asked for a sign, or a teacher to help me understand. Instead, all I see are people, sorry Martin, nothing personal, but people like you who seem to talk in circles and claim things that anyone can see are just not so.
    It just makes me think the atheists are probably right. At least what they say seems to fit with what I actually see.

  195. on 09 Feb 2013 at 5:02 am 195.Lesbian carwasher said …

    welcome to the herd ;D

  196. on 09 Feb 2013 at 5:07 am 196.Lesbian carwasher said …

    so, any religous people who have any logical ideas on how 2 of every animal got on the ark?

  197. on 09 Feb 2013 at 1:21 pm 197.s0l0m0n said …

    JoeyS,

    The atheists are not right. You just haven’t found the right/true path yet.You have all your time in the world to study, weigh which is the true faith.I am ready to coach you. Don’t worry…

  198. on 09 Feb 2013 at 1:58 pm 198.Curmudgeon said …

    JoeyS is pretty good with those Red Herrings too. Ask an atheist a question about their beliefs and they always jump to Christianity.

    JoeyS, what did Martin claim that was not true?

  199. on 09 Feb 2013 at 2:13 pm 199.alex said …

    “JoeyS is pretty good with those Red Herrings too.”

    every damn thing a theist fuck doesn’t agree with, is a red herring. i say allah is bullshit. red herring. jesus is bullshit. red herring. joey says he’s looking for an answer. red herring. creationism is bullshit. red herring. what the fuck? morons don’t want no damn questions. just swallow the shit.

  200. on 09 Feb 2013 at 2:18 pm 200.Xenon said …

    JoeyS

    You think because the Bible doesn’t use a word like “rape” that there is not a prohibition for it? You do know the Bible was written in Hebrew and Greek, right? The Bible speaks against sexually immoral actions in the NT and the OT. Also look at your claim “You shall not kill”. The Hebrew word is “Ratsach” which translates more to our word murder meaning to take innocent life.

    You claim you hear religious people say untrue things? JoeyS everybody says untrue things time to time including you. Check Jeremiah 17:9 for that truth. The Bible also speaks of “Sheep in wolves clothing”, so who are you listening to? Have you ever reads Psalm 1? It is short but packed full of wisdom on from who you seek council.

    Obviously, you are an undercover atheist because no honest person would look at an exchange between Lou and anyone and think he is honest. His MO is obvious. Sit back and provoke someone who is a theist so he can argue. He never discusses anything because he rarely states what he does believe. Martin has just turned it around on him.

  201. on 09 Feb 2013 at 2:30 pm 201.alex said …

    199.Xenon said …

    says the sock moron#1, who’s also sock moron#2…..

    of course, the moron doesn’t want you you look the previous posts where his lies are laid bare.

    yeah, everybody lies. but, theists want you to pick them because the theists have the biblical bullshit redemption. attractive eh? plus the virgens at the end of the road, what more do you want?

    xenon/sock1/sock2/…. love to point out atheists’ shortcomings like it’s relevant. just remember, atheists don’t believe in bullshit(god), period.

    why idiots doth protest too much? they already made up their minds that joey is a plant. they’re just a contrarian, small minded fuckheads.

  202. on 09 Feb 2013 at 5:14 pm 202.DPK said …

    “200.Xenon said …

    JoeyS

    You think because the Bible doesn’t use a word like “rape” that there is not a prohibition for it?

    So what you seem to be saying is that we must each think about it and interpret what is right or wrong depending on the situation? Is that it?

    “The Bible also speaks of “Sheep in wolves clothing”, so who are you listening to? Have you ever reads Psalm 1? It is short but packed full of wisdom on from who you seek council.”

    And of course, YOU should be the judge of who he should seek council from, correct? How do we know you are not the “wolf in sheep’s clothing”? Serious question. which you will not answer… how do we KNOW that?

    “Obviously, you are an undercover atheist because no honest person would look at an exchange between Lou and anyone and think he is honest.”

    This coming from you of all people Xenon, is truly, truly laughable.

    Joey… if you are still here, think about what this says. Because you have expressed some reasonable doubts about Xenon’s little bubble of delusion, now you are an “undercover atheist” (whatever that is) plotting evil. So rather than answer your actual doubts with anything other than “don’t listen to anybody who doesn’t agree with me” he now dismisses you out of hand.

  203. on 09 Feb 2013 at 6:03 pm 203.JoeyS said …

    “JoeyS, what did Martin claim that was not true?”

    Well, I guess you are right… in a way. In what I have read, he hasn’t actually CLAIMED anything. All he does is avoid answering any questions at all. To me, that is the same thing as not telling the truth.
    Maybe you don;t see it that way, but when I ask someone a direct question and he doesn’t answer, it makes me think “what’s he trying to hide.” See?

    “You claim you hear religious people say untrue things? JoeyS everybody says untrue things time to time including you.”

    This is true too, I suppose. Don’t get me wrong, there are people I know who attend my church who are very kind, loving people. But they say things like “If you invite Jesus into your heart, he will come to you.. just like that.” Well, I have, and he hasn’t. So to me, that’s not true. And they say things like, “If you trust in Jesus, he will always take care of you because he loves you…” then I see things like little kids with cancer and their parents pray and pray and they just get sicker and sicker and die. Or those little kids that all got shot in that school, and then somebody says Jesus didn’t help them because we don;t let them pray in school. Well sorry, but that seems pretty mean of Jesus to take that out on those kids. I don’t think that if Jesus was what everyone says he is that he would do that. That’s the kind of stuff I mean when I say that. I guess I should say rather than “religious people say stuff that isn’t true” maybe I should say “religious people BELIEVE stuff that clearly isn’t true.” Like somebody mentioned the Noah’s Ark story. I’m sorry, but you’d have to be an imbecile to believe that really happened. It’s a story, that’s all.

    I don’t know… I’m not an “undercover atheist”. I’m not the smartest guy in the world either. I’m just a person who is struggling to believe and it just keeps getting harder and harder.

  204. on 09 Feb 2013 at 6:13 pm 204.The messenger said …

    202.DPK, the sheep in wolves clothing is a metaphor(for your information, it is not a sheep inside a wolves’ cloths, it is a wolf inside a sheep’s cloths); allow me to explain it to you.

    The sheep represents a human, and the wolf represents a false prophet. The part about the wolf(aka, false prophet)disguising himself as a sheep(aka, a regular human) means that the false prophet is trying to appear like a trustworthy person in order to deceive people.

    Here is the bible verse.

    “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.”

  205. on 09 Feb 2013 at 7:10 pm 205.The messenger said …

    Brother 203.JoeyS, no one said that life would be easy.

    Those kids that died are now in heaven. And the killer is now in hell.

    God was testing the faith of their parrents, and the faith of the children.

    Those kids will be reunighted in heaven.

    Here is proof of heaven.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven_Is_for_Real#section_2

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_Minutes_in_Hell

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eben_Alexander_(author)#section_1

    Here is some info on that test that you keep asking about.
    It is not a test at all, when the docters were operating on him they could tell that his brain was completely offline and could not have produced any sort of consciousness that we know of in science.

    There is no name for the test. The docters have machines that they can use to moniter whether the brain is producing consciousness or not. And from what they stated to him, he was not physically concious durring his comma; so therefore it is logically to assume that the vision that he experience happed from his soul, not his brain.

  206. on 09 Feb 2013 at 8:03 pm 206.Xenon said …

    “Maybe you don;t see it that way, but when I ask someone a direct question and he doesn’t answer, it makes me think “what’s he trying to hide.” See?”

    I do see. You claimed someone lied when you actually had no statement that was a lie. Is it possible he is tired or playing the games of Lou? Have you considered that? I certainly don’t answer any question from Lou anymore. To understand why read Proverbs 26:4-5.

    Lou is only interested in arguing, name-calling and being unreasonable. I don’t mind corresponding with you because you seem to be well mannered and reasonable.

    Joey I have seen people healed from prayer and I have seen people die even with prayer. We all must die one day and when our time comes we are leaving. Sometimes God says NO. On the other hand, I have a good friend, a LE officer in Duke University hospital. He was given no chance of survival and MDs asked permission from his parents to take his organs once he died. People up and down the east Coast were praying for him. That was 17 years ago and he is a Law enforcement today. Nobody has a “Right” to their life. It belongs to God, not us.

    You want to understand everything about God. I understand that but if I understood God 100% that would bother me even worse.

  207. on 09 Feb 2013 at 8:25 pm 207.JoeyS said …

    “Joey I have seen people healed from prayer and I have seen people die even with prayer.”

    Well, then ok… let me ask you a simple question. How do you “know” they were healed from prayer? I mean, when people get sick, sometimes they get better, and sometimes they don’t. If there actually was a cause and effect there from praying, wouldn’t it seem that people who prayed who get better more and people who didn’t would get better less?

    I mean, think about it… when a earthquake strikes or something bad like that happens, do atheists get killed in greater percentages than religious people? I don’t think they do.

    Then, like this website says, there are some people that god always says “no” to.

    I understand you believe its a mystery and we have to accept it. But, on the other hand, again if you look at it really honestly like this website says, from the point of view that just maybe god is just a story… what we see makes a lot more sense.
    Seems that way to me, anyhow. If you think about “well, what would the world look like if there really wasn’t a god looking out for people, answering prayers, and making sure everything happened the way it should?” I think maybe it would look a lot like the world we live in. Plus, like I’ve said, I have tried… I have really asked Jesus to come into my heart and fill me with the Holy Spirit. But nothing ever happens.

    Thanks for taking the time to answer. I’m sorry to say you haven’t told me anything I haven’t heard before though, and it just doesn’t seem like you’ve got any better answers.

  208. on 09 Feb 2013 at 8:26 pm 208.alex said …

    “Joey I have seen people healed from prayer and I have seen people die even with prayer.”

    yuppers, joey. testimony from theists and atheists alike. same result with or without prayer. that god dude’s such a joker. acts like he’s not even there.

    think about the notion of answering a prayer and ignoring others, it seems rather arbitrary, yet the dumbass apologetics don’t hesitate in proclaming the prayer miracle.

    joey, if you do find your faith, it’s cool. just please, don’t try to force feed the populace. whether, muslim, catholic, hindi, or whatever, most atheists wouldn’t mind. just chill and leave people be.

  209. on 09 Feb 2013 at 8:39 pm 209.JoeyS said …

    “I do see. You claimed someone lied when you actually had no statement that was a lie. Is it possible he is tired or playing the games of Lou? Have you considered that?”

    Oh, sorry… I forgot to answer you on this. Yes, I guess it was taken the wrong way. What I meant, and I’m sorry of it was clear, was that it was obvious to me that Martin was not being forthcoming in his discussion. So I guess “lie” was a wrong choice of words, but I don’t think I actually used that word. Sorry.
    But the point was that Lou was saying that there isn;t any such thing as an absolute moral code… something you can always look at and know if something is right or wrong. Well, duh… even a child knows that is true. There are always things called circumstances that can change whether something is right or wrong. Martin seemed to be saying this is not true, but refused to answer what he thought this absolute moral code was.

    Now, the only thing I have seen from church that could be called a “moral code” is the ten commandments, along with Jesus’ teaching that we should love one another. Well, sorry, both of those things still require each person to think about them and make a judgement. I mean, “treat your neighbor as you would be treated”… every kindergartner kind of knows that, don’t they? Plus, I myself would never want to go to prison… does that mean we shouldn’t send anyone to prison?? Of course not.
    I guess my point is, if Martin doesn’t want to “play the games of Lou” then he shouldn’t be here playing his own games. If he doesn’t want to discuss honestly and sincerely (maybe that’s a better way to put it… rather than dishonest, he is insincere?) and show people the absolute moral code he implies exists, then he shouldn’t be posting. Because otherwise, what’s the point?
    Sorry if this is too long. Man, I really didn’t mean to get into all of this… I really just wanted to let you all know how this whole discussion looked to me, that’s all.

  210. on 09 Feb 2013 at 8:53 pm 210.DPK said …

    JoeyS…. dude you are almost there. You already know what the theists here also know but refuse to believe. Yes, the world we live in looks exactly like what we would expect if there was no magical god pulling the strings and NOTHING like what we would expect in a world where an omnipotent god-king was calling the shots.
    They choose to believe otherwise because they are afraid that death is the end for them. This terrifies them and to ease their fears they invent an elaborate fairy tale with magical kings and everlasting life… and then they pretend that it is true.
    But. like every fairy tale, it leads to problems, and then end up having to construct elaborate, convoluted, and truly mind-bending rationalizations for why reality does not fit with their beliefs. This is called “faith”… believing stuff you know ain’t true… and it is the foundation of every religion. Ask yourself one simple question… if god was actually real, why would it REQUIRE “Faith” to believe in him?
    You are right there man. All it takes now is the courage to admit it to yourself and simply let go of the superstitious nonsense and live the live you have rationally and in touch with reality.

  211. on 09 Feb 2013 at 9:09 pm 211.Severin said …

    #196
    “so, any religous people who have any logical ideas on how 2 of every animal got on the ark?”

    Especially kangaroos!
    By Australian Airlines, from Australia to Judea?

  212. on 09 Feb 2013 at 9:38 pm 212.Xenon said …

    “But the point was that Lou was saying that there isn;t any such thing as an absolute moral code”

    JoeyS do you know the difference between ethics and morality? Absolute moral code was something made up by atheist here. You should look into it. Now, everyone has a moral code. Some make up their own like some atheist here who claim it is OK to lie and steal at the proper times, name call and type filthy obscenities. Others follow the teachings of Buddha, Christ or a hero in their life. Everyone follows their moral code, it is just a matter of where did it originate. Many atheists borrow their moral code from Judo-Christian teachings.

    Now let me ask you this. Why should Martin not come here if he doesn’t want to play games with Lou? Is this Lou’s blog? Is Martin not allowed to question Lou? Maybe Lou should not appear? In reality, I have seen Martin here very little.

    Take a look at DPK’s claim above. DPK and Lou in reality are the same poster:

    “the world we live in looks exactly like what we would expect if there was no magical god pulling the strings”

    Think logically here JoeyS. How can anyone have this information? In order to make this claim one would need to have access to a universe with God and a universe without God. This is not a valid claim and typically is dismissed without even a response.

  213. on 09 Feb 2013 at 9:57 pm 213.DPK said …

    Take a look at DPK’s claim above. DPK and Lou in reality are the same poster:

    Lie one. Now Xenon has made a claim that is not true. He can add it to the long list of things he thinks he “knows” but in fact does not.

    “the world we live in looks exactly like what we would expect if there was no magical god pulling the strings”
    Think logically here JoeyS. How can anyone have this information?

    Lie 2:
    I did not say this is what we SEE if there is no magical god, I said it is what we would EXPECT. One does not need to “have access” to a universe without gravity to know what we would “expect” it to be like. One does not need to “have access” to a planet without a sun to know that we would expect it to be cold, dark, and lifeless. Don’t fall for his crock, Joey. Simply think about it. If there was a magical god interceding in human affairs, there would be evidence of it. Is there? NO. All there is are people claiming coincidences as the work of god, and dismissing other coincidences as “god working in mysterious ways”.

  214. on 09 Feb 2013 at 9:58 pm 214.alex said …

    “name call and type filthy obscenities.”

    bullshit, misplaced, self righteous indignation. lay out your identity and we’ll determine if you’re a saint. otherwise, i’ll assume you watch the same filthy porn as i do.

    “In order to make this claim one would need to have access to a universe with God and a universe without God.”

    same fucking argument with santa and vampires. do you need access to both worlds to know the bullshit?

  215. on 09 Feb 2013 at 10:11 pm 215.DPK said …

    And Joey… notice that XENON did not ANSWER you when you asked him:
    “How do you “know” they were healed from prayer? I mean, when people get sick, sometimes they get better, and sometimes they don’t. If there actually was a cause and effect there from praying, wouldn’t it seem that people who prayed who get better more and people who didn’t would get better less?”

    He made a claim that: “I have seen people healed from prayer.” And he asks YOU to think logically?
    How funny is that? Just like the other theists, they make claims with ZERO evidence to back them up, then simply ignore you when you question them about it. See a pattern here?

  216. on 09 Feb 2013 at 11:15 pm 216.The messenger said …

    Brother 211.Severin, God guided them to the ark.

  217. on 09 Feb 2013 at 11:34 pm 217.JoeyS said …

    I did notice that, DPK.
    Despite what he says, I haven’t seen anyone here, atheists included, who are really interested in a completely honest discussion. Everyone seems to want to just further their own point of view. Makes me wonder why you all even bother.

    But, I have to say, based on my own experience, and common sense, the points the atheists make seem to make more sense to me. Seems the theists are always either ducking questions or making excuses.

  218. on 09 Feb 2013 at 11:58 pm 218.Xenon said …

    JoeyS

    I certainly hope you don’t believe I am attempting to talk you into anything. If I can talk you into something someone else can talk you out of it. I went through my own time of doubt in college but as I have gotten older there really is no doubt in my mind.

    How do I know my LE buddy was healed by prayer? I witnessed it and he gives credit to the prayer of God’s people. He was given zero chance of survival by the best MDs and credits prayer. You can always make up something like, “we don’t know how but we will one day” which atheist like to use. But ultimately, you rule out any possibility of God with such a response, yes? I’ll take the word of the patient and the MDs there with him.

    Read some books Joey. Try some of Antony Flew’s work. A brilliant atheist who studied the evidence and finally concluded there must be a God. Much of the work he studied was that of the brilliant Francis Collins.

    “There Is a God: How the World’s Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind” Antony Flew

    Anyhow, you study the evidence and judge for yourself. If you do decide on atheism, I do hope you don’t become adversarial and nasty as those here. I wish the best for you.

  219. on 10 Feb 2013 at 12:05 am 219.Lou(DFW) said …

    210.Xenonsense said …

    “Absolute moral code was something made up by atheist here.”

    So, are you agreeing that there’s no such thing as a god-given absolute moral code?

    I can ignore all the other lies that Non posted here about me and other atheists because here and now he will demonstrate that he is a fraud by refusing to answer a simple, direct, yes or no question.

    Non, is there a god given absolute moral code?

    If yes, then please provide it.

    Joey, he wont. He is a fraud, a theist. ALL theists are frauds.

  220. on 10 Feb 2013 at 12:22 am 220.alex said …

    “I haven’t seen anyone here, atheists included, who are really interested in a completely honest discussion”

    this is an atheist site. like an a-vampireist site, nonconformers bear the burden of proof. a site that believes that the earth is flat, would be dismissed fairly easily, no? this is old.

    please cite an example of an honest discussion postulated by these idiots. you won’t because, all the shit they start is just that. nothing but crap.

  221. on 10 Feb 2013 at 12:54 am 221.DPK said …

    Hysterical that Xenonsense should recommend you read Flew, who steadfastly denied the very intercessional god that xenon is claiming is real, and answers prayers.

    Here is what Flew himself said about his conversion, at 81 years of age and in decling mental health, to Deism…. Which is a marked difference from ant idea of god postulated by the theists here:

    “Flew said he was best labeled a deist, like Thomas Jefferson, whose God was not actively involved in people’s lives.”
    “I’m thinking of a God very different from the God of the Christian and far and away from the God of Islam, because both are depicted as omnipotent Oriental despots, cosmic Saddam Husseins,” he said. “It could be a person in the sense of a being that has intelligence and a purpose, I suppose.”

    As I have said here on many occasions, there is an undeniable order to the universe. If you want to call these underlying “rules” of nature that control the way matter, space, time, and energy “behave”, “god”… Have at it, you’ll get no argument from me.

    But make the jump from the undeniable order of nature to a personal god who loves you, listens to your thought, answers your prayers, intercedes in the physical world, and offers the reality of eternal reward or punishment in some life that continues in some alternate reality, and who is so insecure that he will punish you for all eternity for the horrendous crime of not believing in him…. Well that’s a leap that will need more than the ancient legends of primitive goat herders to support it.

    Just sayin’

  222. on 10 Feb 2013 at 2:08 am 222.alex said …

    “I witnessed it and he gives credit to the prayer of God’s people. He was given zero chance of survival by the best MDs and credits prayer.”

    by granting your buddy’s prayer, god ignores all the other prayers, yes? you won’t question your god’s motives for ignoring others, but you readily witness, praise, and evangelize that the prayer was answered. you are a fucking moron, confirmed.

  223. on 10 Feb 2013 at 3:24 am 223.DPK said …

    For a good essay on why the whole idea of prayer is problematic for theists:
    http://hwarmstrong.com/let-us-pray.htm

    “According to the “Lord’s Prayer,” people are supposed to ask, “Give us this day our daily bread.” Why? If you ask, will it be done? If it won’t be done, why should you ask? Since war and famine have brought death by starvation to many True Believers, this asking for daily bread seems pointless. If starvation happens to those who ask as well as to those who don’t, then the explanation for starvation must lie in factors wholly unrelated to the asking. In other words, asking God for your daily bread has nothing to do with whether or not you’ll get it. So why are you supposed to ask for it?”

  224. on 10 Feb 2013 at 4:16 am 224.DPK said …

    “How do I know my LE buddy was healed by prayer? I witnessed it and he gives credit to the prayer of God’s people.”

    Translation: I lied when I said I KNOW he was cured by prayer. But people prayed for him, and he got better, therefore, I will claim that prayer is the only possible explanation, and I will simply ignore any other possibility.

    Now, no doubt, that same month that Xenonsense’s friend got better, other sick people were also prayed for, but ended up dying horrible deaths anyway. Also, no doubt doctors told other people that they would be fine, and then they got worse…. Unless you believe that doctors never get it wrong.

    Now, if you accept that god decided to make this person better because someone prayed for them, then you must accept that god also decided to kill other people. Then you must acknowledge that god grants prayers to find your car keys, or get you a promotion, while at the same time allows babies to die of starvation and let’s 6 year olds get shot in their classrooms.

  225. on 10 Feb 2013 at 5:42 am 225.Lou(DFW) said …

    215.Xenonsense said …

    “I certainly hope you don’t believe I am attempting to talk you into anything.”

    Even though he proceeds to do so. See how the dishonesty never ends?

    “If you do decide on atheism, I do hope you don’t become adversarial and nasty as those here.”

    “Atheism” isn’t an “ism” anymore so than is disbelief in Santa Claus, Bigfoot, Loch Ness monsters, alien abduction, nor the Tooth Fairy.

    Who cares what you “hope?” We only care about what you can demonstrate. So far, it’s only that you are a fraud. That’s not being “adversarial and nasty.” It’s being honest.

  226. on 10 Feb 2013 at 6:10 am 226.Lou(DFW) said …

    204.Xenonsense said …

    “You claimed someone lied when you actually had no statement that was a lie.”

    Show us where he made that claim.

  227. on 10 Feb 2013 at 6:16 am 227.Lou(DFW) said …

    200.Xenonsese said …

    “Obviously, you are an undercover atheist because no honest person would look at an exchange between Lou and anyone and think he is honest.”

    LOL! Show us where I was being dishonest on this blog.

    “He never discusses anything because he rarely states what he does believe.”

    I have answered such questions, even though it’s irrelevant what anyone here “believes.”

    “Martin has just turned it around on him.”

    ASS/Martin/Mitch never “turned it around on” anyone. The only thing he ever turned around was himself when running away from a discussion.

    As you can see, Non and his sock-puppets are much more interested in discussing atheists than god and religion.

  228. on 10 Feb 2013 at 7:07 am 228.Anonymous said …

    People take Homeopathic remedies, which are nothing but water, then claim to be healed from illnesses for which they claim that MDs handed them a death sentence. No gods needed, only gullible people.

    How do we know that A’s friend, sorry he’s back to posting as Xenon today isn’t he, didn’t take some magic water instead? Do we? Perhaps his friend was healed by quantum thingiewhatsits?

    The interesting thing is that if these instances *really* happened, we’d be able to read about them in medical journals but we don’t. We never do.

    Still it sounds so much cooler to say something along the lines of “Well, the MDs wrote me off and wanted to harvest my organs” than “My doctors told me that many people make spontaneous recoveries from these illnesses, nature is a wonderful healer, and by the way please consider being an organ donor”.

    But, please prove me wrong, Burebista – sorry, man, Xenon. Point us at the write up of your friends condition in a real medical journal.

    Cue excuses and diversions.

  229. on 10 Feb 2013 at 7:35 am 229.Severin said …

    210 Xenon
    “Absolute moral code was something made up by atheist here.”

    You are a liar, because theists here DID claim that morality comes from god, but thanks for admiting that there is no absolute, god given moral code.

    “Take a look at DPK’s claim above. DPK and Lou in reality are the same poster:
    “the world we live in looks exactly like what we would expect if there was no magical god pulling the strings”

    “How can anyone have this information?”

    That was neither a claim nor an information.
    The man is simply saying what the world LOOKS LIKE to him.

  230. on 10 Feb 2013 at 11:18 am 230.s0l0m0n said …

    JoeyS,

    Can’t you see even if a lot of people doesn’t pray or mocked God, God still supply them with wealth, abundance of food supplies and tranquility. Can’t you see what the most gracious have done.
    What if your roast chicken tastes like charcoal. Why are most of the food is adorable to our taste buds. Have you ever have a thought of that.Could that be a coincidence or could ‘nature’ take into its accounts.You should be doing a lot of thinking first JoeyS.

  231. on 10 Feb 2013 at 4:55 pm 231.Severin said …

    212 Xenon
    “Absolute moral code was something made up by atheist here.”

    12 Burebista, on 24. November 2009.:

    “Sara God is the creator of morality.”
    http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=1001#comments

  232. on 19 Feb 2013 at 3:34 am 232.Lou(DFW) said …

    Unholy: Serial Rapist Used ChristianMingle.com To Lure In New Victims

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/unholy-serial-rapist-used-christianmingle-com-to-lure-in-new-victims/

    LOL! LOWERED EXPECTATIONS

  233. on 19 Feb 2013 at 7:17 am 233.Xcanthean Zeno said …

    230.s0l0m0n said …
    What if your roast chicken tastes like charcoal. Why are most of the food is adorable to our taste buds. Have you ever have a thought of that.Could that be a coincidence or could ‘nature’ take into its accounts.You should be doing a lot of thinking first JoeyS.

    that would be because charcoal is burnt wood, and chicken is a delicous organic substance…

  234. on 19 Feb 2013 at 3:33 pm 234.DPK said …

    232.Lou(DFW) said …

    Unholy: Serial Rapist Used ChristianMingle.com To Lure In New Victims

    Since that site advertises that they help “find god’s match for you” and in this case “god’s match” was a serial rapist, is it not logical to assume that either god wanted these people to be raped (because, after all, everything happens according to his plan, and for a higher purpose) OR, the owners of this site are lying and they do not have the ability to find “god’s match for you”… in which case they are perpetrating fraud on a whole bunch of delusional people?

  235. on 19 Feb 2013 at 3:46 pm 235.Lou(DFW) said …

    230.s0l0m0n said …

    “What if your roast chicken tastes like charcoal. Why are most of the food is adorable to our taste buds.”

    What about pork?

  236. on 19 Feb 2013 at 6:23 pm 236.DPK said …

    fuck pork… what about lima beans? why did god make something that is supposed to be good for you taste bad?

    I guess Solomon has never heard of the idea of putting the cart before the horse. Solomon, if our bodies required us to eat charcoal and not protein, natural selection would have favored those who like the taste of charcoal over those who like the taste of chicken… and you would be claiming god made charcoal tasty and delicious and made chicken taste like poo.

    Seriously, what is wrong with you?

    yuk, yuk, yuk….

  237. on 19 Feb 2013 at 10:21 pm 237.alex said …

    “What about pork?”

    that would be s0l and his sheep. {{wa ka ka?}}

  238. on 19 Feb 2013 at 11:42 pm 238.DPK said …

    Know what else is amazing? God made a day exactly 24 hours! Exactly the same as on your watch…. You think that is “just a coincidence?” No, proof god designed the world…. Think about that next time your porking your sheep, or whatever….
    Yeah…. Explain that while you burn in (((hell))) atheists

    Yuk, yuk, yuk…… Yuk.

  239. on 20 Feb 2013 at 12:58 am 239.Anonymous said …

    Except a day isn’t always equal to exactly 24 hours, so either god fucked up or he got his Rolex during a trip to Patpong.

    Checkmate atheists, um theists.

  240. on 20 Feb 2013 at 7:55 am 240.The messenger said …

    Brother 236.DPK, Lima beans taste great in my opinion.

    God wants you to find the streangth to eat stuff like that, weither it tastes appetizing or not.

  241. on 20 Feb 2013 at 8:06 am 241.The messenger said …

    Sibling 217.JoeyS, I respectfully disagree.
    I have presented many questions to the Athiests on this site and I have yet to receive answers.

    I have answered their questions( some repetitively ). Why will they not answer my questions.

  242. on 07 Mar 2013 at 5:19 am 242.Aquaria said …

    ::I’ve noticed that the atheists here tend to be rather nasty and negative at times. I don’t know why that is, but you people tend to not hear what you have to say when you say it in a negative way.:::

    1) Style over substance arguments are for frauds, nitwits and intellectual shit for brains.

    HOW something is said had not one fucking iota of bearing on the VALIDITY or SOUNDNESS of WHAT is said.

    If you can’t wrap your mind around that, you might as well remain a christer, because you don’t care enough about the truth to be an atheist. The truth isn’t always pretty.

    2) You have a very stupid definition of nasty and negative. Do you have ANY FUCKING IDEA WHAT RUDE REALLY IS, dumbass?

    This is an atheist site, but what do you see here?

    A lot of RUDE and NASTY and NEGATIVE and STUPID christers vomiting their hate, their genocidal scum fantasies, their lies and their bullshit everywhere. Do you even think that the christers allow dissenting views remotely like this on THEIR sites?

    If you think they do, you’re either a moron, or live under a rock.

    You’re fine with these rude assholes coming into an atheist’s house and shitting in the punch bowl, lying and calling atheists immoral and stupid, but oh dear someone actually saying ‘shit’ or ‘you’re stupid’ gives you the fucking vapors?

    What the fuck is the matter with you?

  243. on 07 Mar 2013 at 5:21 am 243.Aquaria said …

    messatard:

    You’ve gotten answers. It’s not our fault you’re too stupid and deluded to understand them, you lying fraud.

  244. on 10 Apr 2013 at 6:22 am 244.Aaron said …

    I am a Christian and I don’t really know if this ChristianMingle site is created by Christians. Most likely it is someone that saw an opportunity to make some money. If it was created by someone claiming to be a Christian…then that’s something else. Now can God work through this website? Obviously yes, He is God, but as much as this site claims…no.

  245. on 10 Apr 2013 at 5:08 pm 245.Fluttershy said …

    Aaron…

    Please get off this site….
    Now please…

  246. on 13 Apr 2013 at 3:30 am 246.Aaron said …

    Haha
    Sorry, I was thinking this was a site made up of people that were open for discussion like a couple of my atheist friends.

  247. on 13 Apr 2013 at 12:35 pm 247.Fluttershy said …

    Now can God work through this website? Obviously yes.

    ^
    One question, how insane are you?
    Or if not insane, what is your opinion on how the universe can work…?

  248. on 13 Apr 2013 at 7:19 pm 248.A said …

    Aaron,

    One of the things I like here is the tolerance of atheists. They start a site discussing God and religion and when a poster comes doing such they ask them to leave.

    However Butterfly shifts from Christian mingle to how the universe works. What a mess! LOL!!

  249. on 13 Apr 2013 at 8:30 pm 249.alex said …

    “One of the things I like here is the tolerance of atheists. They start a site discussing God and religion and when a poster comes doing such they ask them to leave.”

    that’s because you’re a dumbfuck. the only ones asked to leave are the repetitive morons with nothing to say. notice how theist fucks in here are not censored? also notice how you fuckers would rather tolerate other religions who are completely at odds with your beliefs, but atheists you totally detest?

  250. on 16 May 2013 at 4:14 am 250.Mat said …

    Satan really got into the internet these days and hes fooling even christians, hes really done it this time. “Find God’s match for you” are you joking me? I mean I try so hard to go all His ways but when I see people being decieved like this I gotta laugh a bit

  251. on 16 May 2013 at 4:18 am 251.Mat said …

    Im laughing at all the fools in the comments even if its me lol (this is not good)

  252. on 16 May 2013 at 3:25 pm 252.DPK said …

    So Matt, let’s understand… are you saying that god does NOT have a plan for everyone and that everything does NOT happen according to his divine plan?

  253. on 16 May 2013 at 3:31 pm 253.Anonymous said …

    How is Satan fooling Christians? Would you please elaborate?

  254. on 16 May 2013 at 5:08 pm 254.DPK said …

    If Satan is fooling Christians, it must be because god wants him too, right? Isn’t he all powerful?
    I wonder why he created Satan in the first place, knowing how all this shit would go down………
    Such a kidder, that Yahweh… always with the jokes!

  255. on 20 Jun 2013 at 2:02 am 255.Dennis G. said …

    Ther is so much crap on this site. I like the one that Nazis were not “true Christians” because they disobeyed the commandment “thou shalt not kill.”
    Once when a Bible nut came to the door I asked about passages like 1 Samuel 15:3 where God commands the death of everybody including “man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.” First he said “I don’t know of anything like that in the bible.”
    I showed him the passage in one of my bibles. Then he said “When that was written life didn’t mean as much as it does now.”
    Then, when I asked, “but isn’t this the word of God,” he said “can I think about this and come back tomorrow?”
    I told him no, he’d wasted enough of my time and that if he returned, I only expected more of the brainless drivel that Christians spout when they try to defend the Bi-Bull.
    Over the years I’ve become a follower of the late psychologist Albert Ellis who taught that religious faith was a diagnosable mental disorder.
    I asked one guy at work what was the difference between him and his faith in Jesus(he said Jesus healed his planters warts. You know, God lets babies die of cancer but heals planters warts.) and someone who claims that aliens control them through invisible brain waves. He was unable to give any kind of answer without resorting to the typical Christian drivel.

  256. on 20 Jun 2013 at 3:40 am 256.The messenger said …

    255.Dennis G., the bible verse “thou shall not kill” means that it is a sin to kill another human being, unless GOD commands you to kill, or if you are in war, or if you are defending another human life.

    Here is the evidence to back up my claim. I retrieved this text from biblegateway.com. Within the New International Version bible(the best translation of the bible) “you shall not murder” is written instead of “thou shall not kill”. Therefore I have proven that the text”thou shall not kill” actually means “you shall not murder”.

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2020&version=NIV

  257. on 20 Jun 2013 at 3:46 am 257.The messenger said …

    243.Aquaria, tell me, where is the answer to my following question?

    Where is evidence that disproves GOD?

    I have asked this question many times and have not been given an answer.

    Answer this question.

  258. on 20 Jun 2013 at 3:55 am 258.The messenger said …

    255.Dennis G., GOD healed those people to show his power to the Jews in Israel. That does not mean that he is going to solve all of the problems on Earth.

    Those children died because it was there time to cross over into either heaven, hell, or purgatory.

    They went to heaven because of there lack of sins.

    GOD gives you a lot of things to be greatful for, and you should stop complaining about your “so called problems in life”.

  259. on 20 Jun 2013 at 4:12 am 259.The messenger said …

    255.Dennis G., if GOD tell someone to kill someone it is probably for a good reason.

    GOD, commanded King Saul to kill all of those people and all of those animals because they were evil.

    GOD forgave the people who condemned him to death, therefore it is proven that GOD does not get angerd very easily.

    GOD is forgiving, but if you do something extremely evil, GOD will punish you for it. And you will deserve the punishment.

  260. on 20 Jun 2013 at 12:39 pm 260.alex said …

    >>>>>>Here is the evidence to back up my claim. I retrieved this text from biblegateway.com. Within the New International Version bible(the best translation of the bible) “you shall not murder” is written instead of “thou shall not kill”. Therefore I have proven that the text”thou shall not kill” actually means “you shall not murder”.

    you dumbfuck idiot! quoting a bullshit site to back your bullshit claim is the dumbest thing ever. right up there with creationism and heaven/hell.

    confirmation #89. messenger is a delusional idiot. you don’t get ask questions, you dumbshit. fuck off.

  261. on 20 Jun 2013 at 12:43 pm 261.alex said …

    256.The messenger said …

    Here is the evidence to back up my claim. I retrieved this text from biblegateway.com. Within the New International Version bible(the best translation of the bible) “you shall not murder” is written instead of “thou shall not kill”. Therefore I have proven that the text”thou shall not kill” actually means “you shall not murder”.

    you dumbfuck idiot! quoting a bullshit site to back your bullshit claim is the dumbest thing ever. right up there with creationism and heaven/hell.
    confirmation #89. messenger is a delusional idiot. you don’t get ask questions, you dumbshit. fuck off.

  262. on 20 Jun 2013 at 12:45 pm 262.alex said …

    >>>>>>Here is the evidence to back up my claim. I retrieved this text from the biblebullshit site. Within the New International Version bible(the best translation of the bible) “you shall not murder” is written instead of “thou shall not kill”. Therefore I have proven that the text”thou shall not kill” actually means “you shall not murder”.

    you dumbfuck idiot! quoting a bullshit site to back your bullshit claim is the dumbest thing ever. right up there with creationism and heaven/hell.

    confirmation #89. messenger is a delusional idiot. you don’t get ask questions, you dumbshit. fuck off.

  263. on 20 Jun 2013 at 3:24 pm 263.The messenger said …

    260.alex, I provided proof to Back up my claim. I retreved this proof from the most respected bible site on the web. That site contains every translation of the bible known to mankind, it is a reliable source of bible information.

    Where is the evidence that disproves GOD?

  264. on 18 Oct 2013 at 9:52 am 264.100$ Christian said …

    As i saw and read from this site i just couldn’t keep quiet listening to this bull shit and the owners of the site bringing jehova’s name down, i am a software developer and i am also educated and what you guys are saying about my God and your ridiculous scientific facts makes NO sense to me at all. I’ve experienced him in my life and there is just no way i could say He doesn’t exist. One who does not believe that God exists is a FOOL!! I will not argue with you about your stupid science facts that are total nonsense and bull shit. If you believe that there is no God then just keep it to yourself and stop convincing others of total nonsense. #super angry, don’t even know how i got to this stupid site!!!!!!!

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