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Christianity Thomas on 05 Jan 2013 12:05 am

The insanity of religion – “God is faithful”

Here is an article that claims God will never let you down:

God won’t let you down

So remember that regardless to what difficult and seemingly impossible situations are pressing in on you, just know that God won’t let you down because He is faithful.

Imagine the level of insanity it takes to make a statement like this. Every year, 10 million kids die of things like starvation. More than half a million Americans died of heart disease last year, and another half million of cancer. 100,000 people died in accidents. And then there are the mass murders at places like Sandy Hook school. Was God “faithful” in any of these deaths? Clearly not!

Whatever the cause of your crisis be it unemployment, marital problems, sickness, etc. although things around you and even your emotions change, God doesn’t because He is faithful….

So why are you worried? You cast doubt on God’s very nature when doubting the outcome after placing the situation in His hands.

God is true to Himself and His righteous nature. His word will produce the results of His promises due to His faithfulness to His word and you can expect the results of His promises when applying the word to your life. His promises are sure and trustworthy.

So think about this. You are sick, you pray, you go to the doctor. First, why do you need to see a doctor if God is faithful? Second, last year about 200,000 people who did see a doctor died in the U.S. because of medical errors. What wonderful, faithful God would allow that?

The only way to say “god is faithful” is to completely ignore reality. Where does this level of insanity come from?

1,076 Responses to “The insanity of religion – “God is faithful””

  1. on 14 Dec 2013 at 8:57 am 1.alex said …

    nother example of the pseudo xtian brotherly love demonstrated by the morons, who was ordered by a judge to take down the fucked up cross overlooking san diego.

    atheists would protest the same if the muslims did the same thing, but the xtians can’t see the shit.

    there’s hope yet. Clergy Tax-Free Housing Allowance Ruled Unconstitutional. now, take the cross down. did my part. convinced my fellow workers that prominently placing crosses at work are offensive. being reasonable, they took it down.

    no agenda here, just trying to get along.

  2. on 14 Dec 2013 at 2:01 pm 2.Eveyone said …

    Dip said “hahaha”

    I would do the same except what Hitler did was not funny So you are acknowledging Hitler was moral in atheist land? Hitler was doing “good” and preventing “harm” to the German people in his mind.”. Therefore it was moral. Wow!!

    You are a sock little puppy Dip.

  3. on 14 Dec 2013 at 3:43 pm 3.alex said …

    as hor’s bullshit position on bible morals is exposed once again, he resorts back to his time tried tradition, lying. it’s laughable that you ask if atheists think that hitler is moral, but of course it’s classic hor maneuver.

    everyone here can see that your lying is symptomatic. you get owned and you lie as a diversion. i know you’re gonna ask me to prove it, so here it is.

    wanna hear about delusion? intrigue? tragedy? love? hate? multiple personalities?

    read “The Book of Hor”. marvel at the stupidity! show it your kids and use it as a case study. submit it to your religious authority and let them conclude that hor’s comments are truly, truly the representative truth and absolutely in line with the religious thinking.

    har, motherfucker! changed your moniker again, eh? just another chapter in your book, you asshole. bravo.

  4. on 14 Dec 2013 at 4:40 pm 4.Dippy said …

    “You are a sock little puppy Dip.”

    Ok, I’m not even going to pretend to understand what that is even supposed to mean… sober up before you write next time.

    “So you are acknowledging Hitler was moral in atheist land? Hitler was doing “good” and preventing “harm” to the German people in his mind.”. Therefore it was moral.”

    Again you miss the point. Does this somehow imply that it is therefore ALWAYS immoral to lie? What exactly does you absolute code of morality say?? It would really be helpful to us if you would show it to us, because then we could examine it to see if it is really absolute. All the examples you give would seem to indicate that it is very , very relative.

    Since you are very secretive about letting anyone else see this code of morality that you claim your god gave you (is it that you need special seer stones or magic glasses to read it?) the least you can do is tell us what it directs. Let’s try again:

    Is it ok to force a woman to marry her rapist.. Messy says your code says it is… is he right? The bible says this is only fair because it is necessary to compensate the woman’s father because he now has “damaged goods” and won’t be able to sell his daughter for a good price. Morally, is that correct?

    Is it ok to own slaves and force them to work to support your family? Messy says if you can’t work yourself, then that is just fine.. is he right?
    The bible says you can take and own slaves from other lands, but must treat them well and never beat them to a point that they can’t get up and work after 3 days. Is that what you think the code of morality says.

    Hiroshima… right or wrong… tell us what your absolute morality says. The bible says “Don’t murder” and dropping a weapon of mass destruction on a city filled with civilians is clearly murder, but doing so no doubt ultimately saved hundreds of thousands of lives. So is that morally allowed, or not?
    Why can’t you do this? We are not asking for a debate or a discussion about it.. nothing to “deal with” we just want to know flat out… right or wrong, and is there any possibility that 2 moral people in good conscious, both following your Christian code of morality, could possibly disagree? Yes, or No?

  5. on 14 Dec 2013 at 7:33 pm 5.Everyone said …

    “Again you miss the point”

    No not at all. We used your standard for lying to Hitler’s actions.

    Hitler claims he was “good” and preventing “harm”.

    Therefore according to Dippy, Hitler was moral in his actions.

    Dippy is a very sock (lol!) puppy.

    Seems WWGHA blog is on its last legs.

    Have a Merry Christmas.

  6. on 14 Dec 2013 at 8:25 pm 6.Puppy Dip said …

    “Hitler claims he was “good” and preventing “harm”.”

    Really? I mus have missed this. Where did Hitler supposedly say this?

    “Therefore according to Dippy, Hitler was moral in his actions.”

    Really, where did I say that?

    “Dippy is a very sock (lol!) puppy.”

    What is a “sock puppy”? In the last post you said I was a “puppy dip”. WTF is a puppy dip?

    Now, it seems actually that your absolute code of morality is about as true as “If you like your health coverage, you can keep it, period.”

    So tell us why you refuse to answer the questions? For someone with a handy dandy pocket code of absolute morality that is supposed to make things perfectly clear, you seem very confused.

    Is it ok to force a woman to marry her rapist.. Messy says your code says it is… is he right? The bible says this is only fair because it is necessary to compensate the woman’s father because he now has “damaged goods” and won’t be able to sell his daughter for a good price. Morally, is that correct?

    Is it ok to own slaves and force them to work to support your family? Messy says if you can’t work yourself, then that is just fine.. is he right?
    The bible says you can take and own slaves from other lands, but must treat them well and never beat them to a point that they can’t get up and work after 3 days. Is that what you think the code of morality says.

    Hiroshima… right or wrong… tell us what your absolute morality says. The bible says “Don’t murder” and dropping a weapon of mass destruction on a city filled with civilians is clearly murder, but doing so no doubt ultimately saved hundreds of thousands of lives. So is that morally allowed, or not?
    Why can’t you do this? We are not asking for a debate or a discussion about it.. nothing to “deal with” we just want to know flat out… right or wrong, and is there any possibility that 2 moral people in good conscious, both following your Christian code of morality, could possibly disagree? Yes, or No?

  7. on 14 Dec 2013 at 9:54 pm 7.Eveyone said …

    ‘Really? I mus have missed this. Where did Hitler supposedly say this?”

    ROFL!!!! Seriously……you don’t even know the basics regarding the rise of Nazism in Germany in the 1930s? Lol!!!

    Well let us get around your ignorance on the subject.

    If Hitler thought his actions were “good” for the human race and was preventing “harm” to the human race……were his actions moral?

    Its your own stated criteria bud, can you support it?

  8. on 14 Dec 2013 at 11:15 pm 8.Dippy said …

    Where did I say that if you think your actions are good, that makes them good?
    You are very confused. Remember now, YOU are the only one here, except for the obviously deranged messenger, that claims to have an absolute, unconditional code of morality, so tell us:
    Is it ok to force a woman to marry her rapist.. Messy says your code says it is… is he right? The bible says this is only fair because it is necessary to compensate the woman’s father because he now has “damaged goods” and won’t be able to sell his daughter for a good price. Morally, is that correct?
    Is it ok to own slaves and force them to work to support your family? Messy says if you can’t work yourself, then that is just fine.. is he right?
    The bible says you can take and own slaves from other lands, but must treat them well and never beat them to a point that they can’t get up and work after 3 days. Is that what you think the code of morality says.
    Hiroshima… right or wrong… tell us what your absolute morality says. The bible says “Don’t murder” and dropping a weapon of mass destruction on a city filled with civilians is clearly murder, but doing so no doubt ultimately saved hundreds of thousands of lives. So is that morally allowed, or not?
    Why can’t you do this? We are not asking for a debate or a discussion about it.. nothing to “deal with” we just want to know flat out… right or wrong, and is there any possibility that 2 moral people in good conscious, both following your Christian code of morality, could possibly disagree? Yes, or No?

    Once we know what your god given code actually says, perhaps we can determine if it is indeed absolute. Really can’t understand why this is such an insurmountable problem for you, and why you are SO DESPERATE to change the subject. What next? Biogenesis? Lol!

  9. on 15 Dec 2013 at 12:16 am 9.Everyone said …

    Dippy!!

    Alright forgot your words eh? Let me share what you said:

    “It is ok to lie when the consequences of lying would cause more good than harm.”

    These are your words.

    Wouldn’t this apply for Hitler too?

    Maybe you mean it is only moral if YOU THINK it is “Good” and causes no “harm”?

  10. on 15 Dec 2013 at 1:42 am 10.Dippy said …

    Not the same ing there, is it, Hor? Lol. You’re so dense.

    So, no answers from your absolute moral code huh?
    What good is it ?

    Seems it doesn’t give you any answers, only questions. Lol.

    You’re such a bundle of contradictions?
    I’d offer to let you try again, but it appears I’m just wasting bandwidth, as you have no answers.

    Let’s leave it at that. Your absolute code of morality offers nothing absolute, and nothing moral. I ink they cal it vaporware. Unless you are willing to actually show it doesn’t, I declare you defeated, and your absolute moral code non existent.

  11. on 15 Dec 2013 at 3:32 am 11.Angus and Alexis said …

    You know what, screw this, Hor is adding nothing to the debate, doing nothing more than ask, ask and ask, while we have to decipher his retarded arguments.

    Back on topic.

    So with the subject of prayer, do you have any reasons as to why it has been proven to have no effect?

  12. on 15 Dec 2013 at 4:14 am 12.Eveyone said …

    There we have it readers. Dippys own words declare Hitler moral within the atheist worldview. Yes, these people like Dip do exist in our world.

    Sad really……

  13. on 15 Dec 2013 at 4:45 am 13.Dippy said …

    Agreed, he’s a waste of time. Done with him and his despicable lies. If he had anything to add to the discussion he wouldn’t be so cowardly and devious. Ignore him.

    I don’t understand Christian’s absolutely insane attitude about prayer.
    Just today I was looking at Facebook posts for a local child we know who has undergone over 200 brain surgeries. She is currently in the hospital having another crisis and has had 4 surgeries in 3 days…. And the comments on Facebook? “We know god is looking out for you… Prayers work!”
    Really? If 200+ brain surgeries before you’re 12 is god looking out for you, I think I’d prefer he ignores me for a while! Seems you forget that if you believe in an almighty god, you’ve got to believe he gave you the fucking brain cancer in the first place!
    Really, why can’t they see the insanity of what they say and think?

  14. on 15 Dec 2013 at 8:49 am 14.alex said …

    god is faithful because he’ll forgive any fucking thing these theists will do. pastor rapes girl because devil was inside them http://goo.gl/vqUSgt. the dumbass (we know who) and his other dumbass buddy, messenger will look at this and say, the pastor is not a real xtian because he’s black, blah, blah. just like the desperation morality playBook, the idiots cling to the notion of the “Real xtian Book”. the beauty of this book is that the motherfuckers can make up the contents as they go along. very similar to the “Real moslem ????”, the xtian book is universally loved by all the faithful. why the hell not? you get to set the criteria that determines who’s a real xtian! it explains the countless list of idiots: mormons, catholics, lutherans, oh my!

    remember, the “Book of Hor” is coming. it’ll chronicle his deepest thoughts as he battle all the evil atheists in the wwgha blog land. chameleon like, hor frequently changes his moniker in a desperate attempt to stay relevant. his nicknames:

    A40Y-HorX-Troll
    martin
    science guy
    ths sckence guy
    biff
    the hor
    xenon
    A40Y-HorX-Troll|martin|science guy|ths sckence guy|biff|the hor|xenon
    .A40Y-HorX-Troll|martin|science guy|ths sckence guy|biff|the hor|xenon
    Eveyone

    you’ll be amazed and sickened at the same time! by listing his comments chronologically, it’s obvious that the dumbass is deeply tormented as he lashes out by constantly posting under different names. but the archives don’t lie. look for it! “The Book of Hor!”.

  15. on 15 Dec 2013 at 2:54 pm 15.Dippy said …

    I posted a link a few post above.. It is still “awaiting moderation”… It seems the moderators have abandoned this section.
    Anyway, if it ever shows up, it is really worth a read. It is a Christian discussion forum and they are discussing the problematic idea that messenger supported of forcing women to marry their rapists.
    The comments from the “saved” are truly eye opening. These are paraphrased, but the ideas are actual:
    “If a woman gets raped, she must have been asking for it, so yeah, she should share the punishment.”
    ” the law is actually to protect the father, who can no longer get a decent dowry for his daughter because she is damaged goods. Why shouldn’t the rapist be forced to support his daughter, since who is going to want to marry her now?
    “I’m a true Christian, so I KNOW I will never be raped, because Jesus is protecting me. If a woman gets raped, that means she couldn’t have been a Christian, so it’s her fault.”
    “Before I became saved, I used to try and figure out what god meant by many things in the bible, and would seek out people to ‘interpret’ gods word for me. Once I became saved, I realized gods word is gods word, and we have no right to interpret it. He said what he said, and that is what he meant. ”
    Which has been my point all along. An all powerful being would not say slavery is ok if it wasn’t. There wouldn’t be things that used to be ok, but now aren’t. If there was an absolute morality, it would be, well… Absolute. And if he promised to answer prayers, it would be obvious to anyone that he does.

  16. on 15 Dec 2013 at 3:57 pm 16.alex said …

    The Book of Hor, a chronological sequence of Hor comments: http://goo.gl/bDTMVq

    Watch how xenon, morphs into martin and eventually as “Eveyone”. Marvel at his moronic posts as he desperately clings to his god. Unable to summon god to strike the hated atheists, he resorts to trashing this blog with his nonsensical crap.

    Coming soon in the Book of Hor, comment on Hor’s ridiculous comments. Of course, Hor is welcome to comment on his own comment, but that would be too funny.

    Go ahead check it out! Outrageous, dangerous and most of all delusional. Hor, baby.
    http://goo.gl/bDTMVq

  17. on 15 Dec 2013 at 6:32 pm 17.alex said …

    happy fucking sunday! once again, i was reminded by one of the church going crowd, that this is an xtian country and if i don’t like it…..

    why is it, that with all the xtian motherfuckers in the land, i can’t recall a single court case where the defendant got off when pleading “innocent on the account of that god made him do it”?

    touchdowns, cures, jobs, winning the lottery, disasters, blah this, blah that, are attributable to the fucking magic sky daddy, but never, never, do the morons stick to their guns and say, “hey! let him go. god made him do it”.

    xtian country, my ass.

  18. on 15 Dec 2013 at 7:31 pm 18.Puppy Dip said …

    but never, never, do the morons stick to their guns and say, “hey! let him go. god made him do it”.

    Because the great divide between what they claim to believe and what they actually know is true. They all claim they talk to god every day, he is their friend, but when one of them claims god talks back to him, they know he’s crazy! Why? Because god doesn’t do that? The bible is full of stories of god talking to people. Can’t be that. It’s because they know that in the real world, god is imaginary, but in their make believe Sunday world they all pretend to each other that he is real… and speak of it with great reverence.
    Same thing when the theists tell you about the “many” scientists who believe in god. Yet, not a one of them has ever published a scientific theory in which “then god performs a miracle” is a part. Yet they will tell you they believe god performs miracles everyday… but their work in understanding the nature of the real world knows he does not.

  19. on 16 Dec 2013 at 1:01 am 19.the messenger said …

    1048.alex, you see GOD as a tyrant.

    you are mistaken.

    he died for us. There is no greater show of love than that.

  20. on 16 Dec 2013 at 1:44 am 20.alex said …

    “you see GOD as a tyrant.”

    messy jealous of the “Book of Hor”? you want your own book? how about i publish your comments as “The Book of Messenger”. then I can combine yours and hor’s into the “Sacred Book of Morons”.

    any other theist moron want their own book for inclusion?

  21. on 16 Dec 2013 at 1:52 am 21.Angus and Alexis said …

    “he died for us.”

    ERRRRRRRRRRRRrr, wrong.

    Jesus died to get rid of sins, which was caused by god himself. Thus he sacrificed himself to himself for what he did.

  22. on 16 Dec 2013 at 2:28 am 22.Eveyone said …

    “ERRRRRRRRRRRRrr, wrong.”

    Lol!!!!! Arrogant atheist telling others they have their belief in God all wrong!!

    Lol!!!!!

    Hilarious stuff, goes to show atheists really do believe which is why they are so passionate about telling others they are wrong.

  23. on 16 Dec 2013 at 2:47 am 23.alex said …

    if it pleases the court, i plead “not guilty on account that god made me do it. i’m counting on all the xtians on the jury to find me not guilty because we all believe in the same god”.

    xtian jury: you crazy motherfucker! save that shit for church and for the wwgha blog. guilty! guilty! guilty!

    silly atheists, always telling the xtians that god doesn’t really talk to them…

    prove me wrong, dumbasses. find me a court case where your so called xtian majority juries have found somebody innocent by reason of god telling them to do it? insanity maybe, lol that.

    hor: define jury! define court! define innocent!
    camaros, chevys, oh my!

  24. on 16 Dec 2013 at 3:05 am 24.Everyone said …

    “camaros, chevys, oh my!”

    Hahahahaha, Oh Alexander, Camaros are Chevys silly!

    You are so cute! Listen, do get some help for your anger/bipolar disorder during the Christmas season. Don’t want to see you end up hurting yourself or others.

    Mary Christmas Alexander!

  25. on 16 Dec 2013 at 3:15 am 25.alex said …

    guilty, motherfucker! where are all the so called good xtian believers that found the defendant innocent because god made him do it?

    chirp, chirp?

    stay away from the women, hor. wouldn’t want you to try that rape defense that messenger adores. “prove that i said that”, he protests. uhmm, you did say it was “a good law”?

  26. on 16 Dec 2013 at 3:26 am 26.Angus and Alexis said …

    “Lol!!!!! Arrogant atheist telling others they have their belief in God all wrong!!”

    Its not a matter of belief, its a matter of what is written in the bible.

    God allowed sin to come into existence, thus his attempt to get rid of sin was making up for what he already did.

  27. on 16 Dec 2013 at 9:14 pm 27.the messenger said …

    1021.Angus and Alexis, GOD created humans and wanted to help them achieve moral perfection(kinder, loving, forgiving, humble, understanding).

    GOD suffered and died on the cross so that the new covenant would be started, and so all humans can go to heaven.

    He died so that we can achieve moral perfection and enter paradise.

    GOD loves us and wants us to be kind, humble, loving, forgiving, compassionate, and to live in paradise.

    Everything that he does is for us. he gives us paradise, be greatful.

  28. on 16 Dec 2013 at 11:30 pm 28.Muslim said …

    1021.Angus and Alexis, Allah created humans and wanted to help them achieve moral perfection(kinder, loving, forgiving, humble, understanding).

    Allah loves us and wants us to be kind, humble, loving, forgiving, compassionate, and to live in paradise.

    Everything that he does is for us. he gives us paradise, be greatful.

  29. on 16 Dec 2013 at 11:31 pm 29.Viking said …

    1021.Angus and Alexis, Odin created humans and wanted to help them achieve moral perfection(kinder, loving, forgiving, humble, understanding).

    Odin loves us and wants us to be kind, humble, loving, forgiving, compassionate, and to live in paradise.

    Everything that he does is for us. he gives us paradise, be greatful.

  30. on 16 Dec 2013 at 11:41 pm 30.alex said …

    “Everything that he does is for us. he gives us paradise, be greatful.”

    and he also gives women the gift of getting raped and getting married to the perp, as fantasized by the shitfuck, messenger.

    your honor, the bileble says, i takes the biatches and i be rapin accordingly. then i taketh the finest ones and they be mrs. messenger.

    it’s a good law, the motherfucker says…..

  31. on 17 Dec 2013 at 12:00 am 31.Puppy Dip said …

    “GOD suffered and died on the cross so that the new covenant would be started, and so all humans can go to heaven.”

    How is it possible for an eternal, immortal creature to “suffer and die” in the first place? And second, who deemed this a requirement for us to achieve paradise? God is supposedly omnipotent… why was this supposed human sacrifice required, and who required it? Him? LOL… that’s the height of stupidity.

    Kind of a stupid idea, especially since he supposedly created man and knew in advance exactly what would happen. When you are omnipotent and omniscient… sorry, all the blame by default falls back to you. If God required himself to sacrifice himself to himself to atone for some ancient human behaving exactly the way god created him to behave… how is that my problem? Your god seems very psychotic.

    Your god, if he were real, would be deemed a complete loon. Sounds way more like a man made myth to me. LOL

  32. on 17 Dec 2013 at 3:57 am 32.Angus and Alexis said …

    “1021.Angus and Alexis, GOD created humans and wanted to help them achieve moral perfection(kinder, loving, forgiving, humble, understanding).”

    Please explain how you think an omnipotent god can FAIL at something.

    “GOD suffered and died on the cross so that the new covenant would be started, and so all humans can go to heaven.”

    Already said, but omnipotent, immortal beings cannot suffer.

    “He died so that we can achieve moral perfection and enter paradise.”

    Which obviously has failed.

    “GOD loves us and wants us to be kind, humble, loving, forgiving, compassionate, and to live in paradise.”

    Letting people burn forever is no form of love.

    “Everything that he does is for us. he gives us paradise, be greatful.”

    If you could use your brain at all, you would realize that everlasting paradise eventually will be considered everlasting torture. How would you like to live FOREVER?

  33. on 17 Dec 2013 at 4:15 am 33.DPK said …

    I’ve yet to hear a single theist ever explain why, after an infinite time living a perfect existence in a state of infinite perfection, did an omniscient and omnipotent being decide something was missing and decide to create a fucked up race of humans destined for sin, corruption, and disappointment… And say that is was good, before needing a rest.
    Sounds like a screw up god, if you ask me.

  34. on 17 Dec 2013 at 6:35 am 34.Angus and Alexis said …

    Which would imply a flawed god.

  35. on 17 Dec 2013 at 12:12 pm 35.Everyone said …

    LOL!!!!

    Look!!!, the guys who claim no moral absolutes are passing absolutes on how a deity should suppose to act.

    lol!!!

    No suffering?

    No Corruption

    No Sin

    No Punishment

    They claim no absolutes for themselves but God should have them.

    Precious!

  36. on 17 Dec 2013 at 12:47 pm 36.alex said …

    “..guys who claim no moral absolutes are passing absolutes..”

    bullshit. god’s behavior can be justified by many things, which makes it NOT ABSOLUTE, you damn moron.

    do you even know what absolutes are? do atheists say “Absolutely, No Killing”? Then shut the fuck up.

  37. on 17 Dec 2013 at 1:32 pm 37.Angus and Alexis said …

    “Look!!!, the guys who claim no moral absolutes are passing absolutes on how a deity should suppose to act.”

    You see, us atheists here do not like the idea of people being crazy murdering rapists, its the result of culture/area/teachings/common sense/etc.

    Hence without the bible we are not running around killing people, unlike what you would apparently do.

    This is why we claim your morals are stupid, as all it would take is one 2000 year old book to be thrown away, and all hell would break loose.

    There are no absolute morals, but many morals are damn well close. How many countries allow murder? Not many, no? This is because logically, people do not like killing each other.

  38. on 17 Dec 2013 at 5:51 pm 38.Eveyone said …

    “Hence without the bible we are not running around killing people”

    Butterfly!,

    In language you can understand…..Errrrrrrttrrrr, wrong answer.

    Atheist regimes murdered, torture and persecuted more people in the 20th century than all other people groups in mankind’s history.

    You show incredible ignorance Butterfly. You and Dippy should get a clue. But alas, nothing is immoral do the actions of your brethren is probably Ok, huh?

  39. on 17 Dec 2013 at 9:22 pm 39.the messenger said …

    1031.Puppy Dip, GOD came down from heaven and was born into this world as a human. When he was crucified, his human body died(the human body was a part of him), but his spirit still lived. Then after three days he repaired his human body and re entered it, thus coming back from the dead.

    GOD required that he must die in order to open the gates of heaven. GOD did that to show his love for humanity. He could have opened heaven with a snap of his fingers, but he wanted to show us that he would be willing to do anything for us, and that he loves us enouph to suffer and give his own life for us.

    GOD’s plan is for everyone to eventually achieve moral perfection and enter heaven. Life on earth is meant to show us evil so that we will be able to overcome it and become morally strong.

  40. on 17 Dec 2013 at 9:39 pm 40.the messenger said …

    1064.DPK, created us because he wants us. He allows evil to exist on earth because he is trying to teach us to avoid and overcome it, thus making us morally perfect. After we are morally perfect, he will bring us up to heaven so that we will live forever in eternal paradise and be happy forever.

  41. on 17 Dec 2013 at 9:48 pm 41.the messenger said …

    1063.Angus and Alexis, omniscient mean all knowing. Immortal means the ability to live forever.

    Neither of those words(omniscient, immortal) exclude GOD’s ability to suffer. He is an all powerful being. He can do anything.

  42. on 17 Dec 2013 at 9:54 pm 42.the messenger said …

    1036.alex, GOD made those laws for humans to follow. He is bound by no laws.

    You must be high. Stop doing pot, it is bad for your brain.

  43. on 17 Dec 2013 at 10:37 pm 43.alex said …

    “Atheist regimes murdered, torture and persecuted more people in the 20th century than all other people groups in mankind’s history.”

    lyin, bitch, motherfucker. here’s your chance. total up your so called atheist regime murders and subtract them from the total. whatever’s left has to be xtian murderers correct?

    spit it out. let’s see.

  44. on 17 Dec 2013 at 10:38 pm 44.alex said …

    correction, theist murderers….

  45. on 17 Dec 2013 at 10:42 pm 45.alex said …

    since i’m high and messenger is the self motherfucking pope catholic appointee, why doesn’t the bitch ass publicly petition congress so that they can pass a law legalizing the “God made me do it defense”? while you’re at it, publicly petition that congress also pass a law whereby rapists can get off by marrying the victim.

    you think it’ll pass?

  46. on 18 Dec 2013 at 2:20 am 46.the messenger said …

    1043.alex, brother, you are so mistaken.

    “everyone” is not a liar.

    Atheists have killed many people.

    Here are some. Joesph Stalin, Fidel Castro, Karl Marx, and Benito Mussolini.

  47. on 18 Dec 2013 at 2:22 am 47.the messenger said …

    1076.alex, correction, atheist murderers……..

  48. on 18 Dec 2013 at 2:36 am 48.the messenger said …

    1077.alex, when a person commits a crime he must be punished for it so he will learn to not do that evil deed again. That is how GOD teaches us right from wrong. Therefore, I would not support the “God made me do it defense” thing.

    I am not a “self motherfucking pope catholic appointee”. I have never anointed a pope, or anyone in my life.

    If a man rapes a woman, he must bind himself to her and make her life good, and support her for the rest of his life.

  49. on 18 Dec 2013 at 3:15 am 49.Angus and Alexis said …

    “Atheist regimes murdered, torture and persecuted more people in the 20th century than all other people groups in mankind’s history.”

    Irrelevant, what one atheist does, and what the next does has no impact on what our morals are.

    It would be like saying all Christians must be bigoted to gays…ohh wait…it says that in the bible, i digress.

    “Here are some. Joesph Stalin, Fidel Castro, Karl Marx, and Benito Mussolini.”

    What does this prove? It proves they were immoral (subjectively), insane bastards.

    I can counter this by saying theists killed a lot of people, Hitler, the crusades, etc.

  50. on 18 Dec 2013 at 11:51 am 50.Everyone said …

    “What does this prove? It proves they were immoral (subjectively), insane bastards.”

    Insane? Well they were atheists Butterfly! Ouch! lol!!!!!

    But why were they immoral? Hmmmmm? Because you say so? Why is your morality better than theirs? They believed in Marxist principles and they were making mankind better.

    Why?

  51. on 18 Dec 2013 at 1:13 pm 51.Angus and Alexis said …

    “Insane? Well they were atheists Butterfly! Ouch! lol!!!!!”

    You can be an atheist and insane at the same time, you moron.

    The only criteria of “atheist” is the disbelief of a deity.

    “But why were they immoral? Hmmmmm? Because you say so?”

    Yes, and because modern law/majority says so.

    “Why is your morality better than theirs?”

    Majority rules.

    “They believed in Marxist principles and they were making mankind better.”

    Belief is irrelevant, truth is absolute.

  52. on 18 Dec 2013 at 6:16 pm 52.Eveyone said …

    “Majority rules.”

    lol, yes but is THAT the new criteria now? So you believe in oppression of the minority?

    Well…….surprise! Bolsheviks ruled in the USSR and where the majority Butterfly. Therefore, as an atheist, you just supported the murder of millions of many innocent people.

    You atheist are really a mess which is why your kind bring carnage, death and destruction

    “Truth is absolute”

    True, but you haven’t a clue what that means or what truth is. You must have seen it on a T-shirt.

    Wow! What a mess!

  53. on 18 Dec 2013 at 9:53 pm 53.the messenger said …

    1081.Angus and Alexis, the bible does not say that we must be bigots to anyone.

    The laws of GOD clearly state that we must not have sex with the same gender and this law applies to heterosexual and homosexual people.

    part 1

  54. on 18 Dec 2013 at 9:53 pm 54.the messenger said …

    part 2

    Lust causes people to commit rape, child molesting, adultery, and many other bad things.

    So, to prevent the spread of lust, people must reduce there amount of sex by only using sex for reproduction.

  55. on 18 Dec 2013 at 10:03 pm 55.the messenger said …

    To summarize nearly all of Alex’s comments, here is a outline of his comments.

    Part1 of alex’s comments. Cuss a lot.

    Part2 of alex’s comments. DCodge the subject by insulting the person that he is debating with

    Part3 alex’s comments. Bring up a different subject to change the conversation.

  56. on 18 Dec 2013 at 11:52 pm 56.DPK said …

    “So, to prevent the spread of lust, people must reduce there amount of sex by only using sex for reproduction.”

    Messy, this is why you don’t have a girlfriend.
    LOL……….

  57. on 19 Dec 2013 at 3:11 am 57.Everyone said …

    “To summarize nearly all of Alex’s comments”

    That’s easy…..

    “______________________________________”

    I means I rarely bother to read them! LOL!!!!

    I do hope the dude gets help. You know the guys has no friends, a girl or hope. He is the angriest and funniest guys to frequent a blog!

    Mary Christmas All!

  58. on 19 Dec 2013 at 4:49 am 58.Angus and Alexis said …

    Hmmm it seems my giant text is not sending…claiming that it looks like spam…

  59. on 19 Dec 2013 at 4:52 am 59.Angus and Alexis said …

    “Messenger part 1”

    You fool, by definition a heterosexual person cannot have intercourse with the same gender.

    Thus, you are bigoted towards homosexuals and bisexuals.

    “Messenger part 2”

    Again, moron.
    Lust is a normal human feeling that often causes LOVE in most couples. Because a few nutters go around raping people, does not mean it is bad.

    “Messenger part 2.5”

    Great, you go do that. Now stop pushing your stupid religious beliefs that are contrary to the human condition on us.

    “lol, yes but is THAT the new criteria now? So you believe in oppression of the minority?”

    No, i believe in acceptance of minorities, if for a good cause (so no nazi’s, cannibals, etc).

    “Therefore, as an atheist, you just supported the murder of millions of many innocent people.”

    I do not support it, but the majority at the time supported it, so they did it.

    “You atheist are really a mess which is why your kind bring carnage, death and destruction”

    This is coming from a theist that has about forty thousand different denominations? Heh.

    “True, but you haven’t a clue what that means or what truth is.”

    I know that a magical deity is not the truth.
    Why are you even here may i ask? You stated yourself that you do not want to actual debate, so piss off.

  60. on 19 Dec 2013 at 4:55 am 60.Angus and Alexis said …

    Wow.

    You know what?

    It was messengers quotes that made the spam go haywire.
    Renaming them to “messenger part 1/2/2.5” made it better.

  61. on 19 Dec 2013 at 12:59 pm 61.Eveyone said …

    “Lust is a normal human feeling that often causes LOVE in most couples”

    lol!!!!!!, love is caused by lust. Who knew? So the rapist, Alex looking ay his porn are all just on a path to love!

    Butterfly, you should quit while you are behind! Lol!!!

    “No, i believe in acceptance of minorities, if for a good cause (so no nazi’s, cannibals, etc).”

    Define “good”

    “I know that a magical deity is not the truth”

    HOW do you know? Lack of proof is not acceptable answer. Your rejection of accepted proofs is not a truth.

  62. on 19 Dec 2013 at 2:01 pm 62.Angus and Alexis said …

    “So the rapist, Alex looking ay his porn are all just on a path to love!”

    What is the boggle with porn?

    “Butterfly, you should quit while you are behind!”

    My username isn’t even fluttershy anymore, you can call me Angus.

    “Define “good”

    Good: to be desired or approved of.

    “Lack of proof is not acceptable answer.”

    Actually, it is an acceptable answer.
    Argument from ignorance are not valid.

    “Your rejection of accepted proofs is not a truth.”

    What accepted proofs?
    Theism has no such things.

  63. on 19 Dec 2013 at 7:14 pm 63.Eveyone said …

    “Good: to be desired or approved of”

    lol!! So clueless.

    So Stalin desired to murder so it was good! Lol!!!! SURE Butterfly, whatever you say.

    want proofs for God? Get off the blog, spend some time in books that don’t tell you what you want to hear. Intelligent, confident people can do that.

    Good luck to you mate!

    bye bye

  64. on 19 Dec 2013 at 7:23 pm 64.Angus and Alexis said …

    “So Stalin desired to murder so it was good!”

    Subjectively? Yes, it was good in his opinion.

    “want proofs for God? Get off the blog, spend some time in books that don’t tell you what you want to hear. Intelligent, confident people can do that.”

    Heheh, like what? The bible?
    I refuse to read such a fictional, outdated and repulsive thing.

  65. on 19 Dec 2013 at 9:30 pm 65.the messenger said …

    1064.Angus and Alexis said..”The bible?
    I refuse to read such a fictional, outdated and repulsive thing.”

    Tell me, how do you know that the bible is fictional, outdated, or repulsive without reading it?

    Do you have any brains at all?

  66. on 19 Dec 2013 at 9:55 pm 66.the messenger said …

    1091.Angus and Alexis, lust causes jealousy, rape, adultery, child molesting, and prostitution.

    There is nothing good about it.

    Love between couples can exist with lust.

  67. on 20 Dec 2013 at 3:32 am 67.Angus and Alexis said …

    “Tell me, how do you know that the bible is fictional, outdated, or repulsive without reading it?”

    I have read enough of it to make up my mind.

    i refuse, however, to read the whole thing.

    “1091.Angus and Alexis, lust causes jealousy, rape, adultery, child molesting, and prostitution.”

    Lust: strong sexual desire.

    Congrats, you are against human nature.
    Now please go and live your inhuman life elsewhere.

    “Love between couples can exist with lust.”

    Of course, why would love not exist with lust?

  68. on 20 Dec 2013 at 6:45 pm 68.Eveyone said …

    Butterfly listens to atheists blogs and that is what makes him so informed. Guys like Butter are sheep, they cannot think for themselves, they can only parrot what other cult members have told them to believe.

    Sad Really.

    Merry Christmas

  69. on 21 Dec 2013 at 12:22 am 69.the messenger said …

    1100.Angus and Alexis, tell me, exactly what parts of it did you read?

    If you only read some of it, you won’t understand it’s full message.

  70. on 21 Dec 2013 at 2:59 am 70.Angus and Alexis said …

    “1100.Angus and Alexis, tell me, exactly what parts of it did you read?”

    Genesis, odds and ends, noah, more odds and ends.

    “If you only read some of it, you won’t understand it’s full message.”

    I have read enough, reading more would sicken me more.

    “Butterfly listens to atheists blogs and that is what makes him so informed. ”

    Yeah, keep thinking that Hor, because its not true.

    “Guys like Butter are sheep, they cannot think for themselves, they can only parrot what other cult members have told them to believe.”

    This is coming from a theist? You must be sarcastic…this is too ironic to be…

  71. on 21 Dec 2013 at 6:27 am 71.Anonymous said …

    the hor:

    they can only parrot what other cult members have told them to believe.

    The perfect description of bible studies and of going to church.

    Merry Krampus everyone!!

  72. on 21 Dec 2013 at 4:48 pm 72.DPK said …

    1069.the messenger said …

    “1100.Angus and Alexis, tell me, exactly what parts of it did you read?

    If you only read some of it, you won’t understand it’s full message.”

    Messy, I have read the whole thing… twice in fact. Which leads me to conclude that you have not… LOL.
    Being spoon fed bits and pieces in bible class with someone there to explain to you what god “really meant” is not “reading the bible”. That is rather being taught to “parrot what other cult members have told [you] to believe.”

  73. on 22 Dec 2013 at 6:33 pm 73.the messenger said …

    1103.Angus and Alexis, how is genises an “odds and ends”?

    How is the creation of the universe unimportant?

    How is the beginning of the jewish people unimportant?

    How is the bigest flood in history and the first sin unimportant?

  74. on 22 Dec 2013 at 6:49 pm 74.the messenger said …

    1105.DPK, everything that the preists have told me, I have confirmed by reading and researching it.

    I have read the whole thing as well.

    Everything that I believe about the bible is backed up by text evidence that I have found.

    Each verse is not an individual message. The bible is a collective message made from many verses together.

    You might have read it, but you fail to understand it.

    What version did you read?

  75. on 22 Dec 2013 at 6:59 pm 75.Angus and Alexis said …

    “How is the creation of the universe unimportant?”

    What good does it do for humanity? Zilch.
    Although, the bible is not a factual book, so it does not describe the creation of the universe.

    “How is the beginning of the jewish people unimportant?”

    How is it IMPORTANT?
    The beginning of some random religion has no importance in today’s word.

    “How is the bigest flood in history and the first sin unimportant?”

    Sin doesn’t exist, and the flood also never happened.

  76. on 24 Dec 2013 at 4:29 pm 76.alex said …

    alahu ekber, motherfuckers, and a merry eid. change your ways and allah will bless you. heavenly muslim virgins will rock your world.

    you like that shit? no? then stop the xtian shit.

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