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Christianity &Islam &Judaism Thomas on 02 Nov 2012 12:04 am

The Insanity of Religion – Blaming Gays for Disasters

When you think about how insane religion can be, there are few examples better than the tendency for religious people to blame natural disasters on some group of people. Case in point:

Fear the almighty wrath: Five natural disasters “caused” by gays

Look at what the gays have done now.

Hurricane Sandy is just the latest weather calamity being blamed on gay people. Who is doing the finger-pointing? This time, it’s self-appointed biblical scholar John McTernan of Defend and Proclaim the Faith ministries in Pennsylvania, who made the connection between gays and Sandy, writing this week the hurricane is “a huge bucket of vomit in America’s face during the election,” forcing us to choose between “a pro-homosexual Mormon along with a pro-abortion/homosexual, Muslim Brotherhood promoter, Hard Left Fascist.”

Here are five other natural disasters mankind suffers because of the gay agenda…

Imagine this: 1) a large group of people who 2) believe in a loving God in heaven and this God 3) sends huge natural disasters that kill innocent people and destroy billions of dollars in property because 4) why? Explain that again – why would a loving God do this?

Didn’t Rick Warren say that “Regardless of the circumstances of your birth or who your parents are, God had a plan in creating you.” Why yes he did. God had a plan in creating everyone, according to Rick Warren. Therefore, the idea that God would throw a hurricane at NY/NJ, disrupting the lives of millions, in retribution for the acts of people that God created is beyond insane.

Of course Rick Warren’s logic is also insane, as discussed here.

76 Responses to “The Insanity of Religion – Blaming Gays for Disasters”

  1. on 02 Nov 2012 at 1:52 am 1.A said …

    Thomas,

    You mean it wasn’t Bush? I kept waiting for OhNoama to find a way to put the blame on Bush. Using Katrina as a model it would seem likely OhNoama cause the storm because he hates white people.

  2. on 02 Nov 2012 at 3:04 am 2.Slapnuts McGee said …

    Just another day in delusion land.

  3. on 02 Nov 2012 at 8:09 am 3.Lou(DFW) said …

    1.ASS said …

    “I kept waiting for OhNoama to find a way to put the blame on Bush.”

    And we keep waiting for you to get over your President Obama OCD. Oh yea, then there’s that evidence for your imaginary god thing.

  4. on 02 Nov 2012 at 8:54 am 4.C Woods said …

    You notice how all the crazies that believe this BS remained perfectly quiet when a hurricane disrupted the GOP convention. Wasn’t God making a statement about what he thought of their candidate, platform, policies?

    I guess not.

    Even the sudden death of a flock of birds was blamed on gays. Why would a loving God kill innocent birds in retribution of gays? Could the birds have been gay?

    According to Pat Robertson all natural disasters can be blamed on liberals, feminists, abortionists, the ACLU and gays.

    And they wonder why reasonable people don’t take them seriously.

  5. on 02 Nov 2012 at 12:47 pm 5.The messenger said …

    Religious people do not blame gay for anything bad.

  6. on 02 Nov 2012 at 12:52 pm 6.The messenger said …

    Mr. Obama has failed to fix the economy.

    He promised that he would fix the economy by the end of his first term, and he has fail do that.

    Romney is the man who should be president, not Obama.

  7. on 02 Nov 2012 at 12:54 pm 7.The messenger said …

    Sorry, comment 6 was suppose to be for a different post.

    My bad.

  8. on 02 Nov 2012 at 1:06 pm 8.Ben said …

    I remember some of the Democrats claiming President Bush sabotaged the levy’s in NO. One storm in the NE should not be a problem. He was following up on 9/11.

  9. on 02 Nov 2012 at 2:02 pm 9.BrianE said …

    the messenger – So you speak for all religious people now huh? Wow, you’re amazing!

    Even when we give you a concrete example right in front of your face you deny it. You live in a world of denial. But I don’t expect you to see that, because you’re in denial.

  10. on 02 Nov 2012 at 2:35 pm 10.Anonymous said …

    Messenger is a troll, engaging him just encourages him.

    No matter what you say he’ll respond in the Hor School of Grammar with something like: “that’s metaphorical”, “that’s not literal”, “you don’t understand”, “god told me…”, “Satan…”, “real Christians…”, “free will…”, “open your eyes…”, “context…”, “that’s not what it means…”, “that’s man, not god….”, and so it goes on.

  11. on 02 Nov 2012 at 2:36 pm 11.Lou(DFW) said …

    8.Obama OCD Has-Ben said …

    “I remember some of the Democrats claiming President Bush sabotaged the levy’s in NO. One storm in the NE should not be a problem. He was following up on 9/11.”

    So therefore, Has-Ben’s imaginary god is real.

    P.S. Nobody cares what you remember about what some nut might have said. We only care about what you can demonstrate about your imaginary god. Oh wait, that leaves you out.

  12. on 02 Nov 2012 at 4:05 pm 12.The messenger said …

    10.Anonymous I always give good, valid responses to all of the questions that are asked.

    People just chose not to except the right answers.

  13. on 02 Nov 2012 at 4:18 pm 13.The messenger said …

    9. BrianE I do not speak for religious people, I speak for God.

    I speak for Jesus.

  14. on 02 Nov 2012 at 4:49 pm 14.Lou said …

    I wonder why Pat Robertson or Romney can speak for all religious but not the troll Anony?

    How about it Anony?

  15. on 02 Nov 2012 at 4:58 pm 15.Lou said …

    On the election. Romney is the obvious no-brained choice. We made history. Time for a man to be in charge

  16. on 02 Nov 2012 at 5:08 pm 16.Lou(DFW) said …

    12.Louser, a Hor grammar school grad (or is he?) said …

    “I wonder why Pat Robertson or Romney can speak for all religious but not the troll Anony?
    How about it Anony?”

    I wonder why you NEVER, EVER provide evidence for your imaginary god, and why you are so OCD over PRESIDENT Obama. Actually, the former is a figure of speech – I know why you can’t.

    But, yes I wonder why the senile idiot Robertson is allowed to represent so many xtians. Again, that’s a figure of speech for intellectually impeded Louser.

  17. on 02 Nov 2012 at 5:14 pm 17.Lou(DFW) said …

    13.Louser said …

    “On the election.”

    LOL! You Hor grammar school grad!

    “Romney is the obvious no-brained choice.”

    Yes, for the the “no-brained,” he is the choice.

    “We made history.”

    Hey, Einstein! regardless of who wins, it will be history – especially if a nutty morman is elected.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pFLBYsFvpY&feature=youtu.be

    “Time for a man to be in charge.”

    Poor Louser is a mama’s boy who didn’t have a father figure, and who misses his daddy.

  18. on 02 Nov 2012 at 5:21 pm 18.The messenger said …

    17.Lou(DFW) stop insulting people and give a valid argument. Oh wait, you can not give a valid argument because your stupid.

  19. on 02 Nov 2012 at 5:23 pm 19.The messenger said …

    17.Lou(DFW) Obama has failed, it is time for a new leader and that leader is Romney.

  20. on 02 Nov 2012 at 5:23 pm 20.The messenger said …

    17.Lou(DFW) Obama has failed, it is time for a new leader and that leader is Romney!

  21. on 02 Nov 2012 at 5:50 pm 21.Lou(DFW) said …

    18.The messenger said …

    “Oh wait, you can not give a valid argument because your stupid.”

    Says the idiot who wrote “your stupid.”

  22. on 02 Nov 2012 at 7:35 pm 22.A said …

    “LOL! You Hor grammar school grad!”

    Says the idiot grammar police! lol! Does anyone know what a “You Hor” is? We can ask alex when he reappears. All poor little Lunatic Louis has is grammar complaints.

    In 2007 the atheist blogs couldn’t talk enough about politics. Of course we know what partisan hacks they are and it was all anti-Bush known as BDS. Suddenly things like Benghazi, Fast & Furious and White House leaks are not an issue.
    This Mormonism OCD they suffer with seems to only apply to Romney. If I was voting for a Spiritual leader then I would be concerned. But then again, the alternative is the nut who attends “I hate America Church”. Do you think they will “fish up” a Harry Reid video and his Mormonism? Nah, he is in the acceptable political ideology.

    I do agree, Mormonism is a cult is the same manner atheism is a cult.

  23. on 02 Nov 2012 at 9:54 pm 23.Lou(DFW) said …

    22.ASS Parrot said …

    “Says the idiot grammar police! lol! Does anyone know what a “You Hor” is?”

    Yes, everyone who’s familiar with this blog does. But of all people, you should understand it because it’s similar to when people say to you “You idiot!”

    As usual, though, you don’t get it. It’s not about the grammar police, it’s about the incorrect grammar that you use that constantly reveals you, Hor.

    “In 2007 the atheist blogs couldn’t talk enough about politics.”

    B.S. – show us.

    “This Mormonism OCD they suffer with seems to only apply to Romney.”

    Once again, ASS must parrot me and my use of Obama OCD to describe him and his ilk who can’t keep their mind on topic.

    “I do agree, Mormonism is a cult is the same manner atheism is a cult.”

    Who gives a shit about what you agree with? Is it somehow relevant? We only care about what you can demonstrate. So demonstrate to us that your imaginary god exists.

  24. on 03 Nov 2012 at 4:39 pm 24.The messenger said …

    21.Lou(DFW) let me correct my bad grammar by retyping my previous sentence.

    Lou(DFW) you ARE stupid.

    There, is that better.- (sarcasm)

  25. on 03 Nov 2012 at 8:20 pm 25.alex said …

    If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel’s father fifty shekels of silver?

    messenger, I bet this is your game? try it and see what happens. moron.

  26. on 03 Nov 2012 at 10:26 pm 26.Lou(DFW) said …

    24.The messenger said …

    “There, is that better.- (sarcasm)”

    LOL! No, a question is terminated with a question mark.

    Messenger, when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.

  27. on 04 Nov 2012 at 12:38 am 27.The messenger said …

    26.Lou(DFW) I ment to type (that is better).

    My bad.

  28. on 04 Nov 2012 at 12:44 am 28.The messenger said …

    26.Lou(DFW) so I forgot to put in a question mark, who cares?
    I am only human, I makes mistakes once an a while, God is the only perfect person.

  29. on 04 Nov 2012 at 12:44 am 29.The messenger said …

    26.Lou(DFW) so I forgot to put in a question mark, who cares?
    I am only human, I makes mistakes once an a while, God is the only perfect person.”

  30. on 04 Nov 2012 at 1:40 am 30.The messenger said …

    25.alex that bible verse means if a man has sex with a woman he is not married to, there will be consequences.

    A man is only allowed to have sex with a woman that is his in love with, and or married to.

  31. on 04 Nov 2012 at 2:17 am 31.Curmudgeon said …

    “Messenger, when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.”

    Be careful not to step on the DFW.

  32. on 04 Nov 2012 at 2:31 am 32.alex said …

    fifty shekels motherfucker, it means.

  33. on 04 Nov 2012 at 2:40 am 33.Anonymous said …

    “God is the only perfect person”

    So, he’s a person? Then he physically inhabits this realm or he is made up. Man, you are burying yourself tonight!

  34. on 04 Nov 2012 at 3:48 pm 34.The messenger said …

    33.Anonymous yes he is a living bieng, and yes he is real.

  35. on 23 Nov 2012 at 1:25 am 35.jeff the frozen canuck said …

    Jesus- the original zombie. Poor Jesus, must be starving due to a lack of brains among his followers.

  36. on 23 Nov 2012 at 12:49 pm 36.The messenger said …

    Jeff, there are many intelligent Christians in the world, most of them tend to focus more on moral knowledge rather than scientific knowledge. Moral knowledge is more important than any knowledge that science can or will ever provide.

    I am not saying that science is not important. I myself am fascinated by the knowledge that physics provides. For me physics gives me the opportunity to learn more about the universe that God created. God created this world for us and I want to learn as much as I can about it. I thank Jesus every day for my family, friends, and safe learning environment that I am fortunate to have as my disposal. I wish you people would remember that it is God who gives us these wonderful gifts such as the ability to acquire knowledge about the universe.

  37. on 24 Nov 2012 at 7:55 am 37.Severin said …

    36 Messenger
    ” Moral knowledge is more important than any knowledge that science can or will ever provide.”

    Yet, it was YOU who said that people who never had opportunity to know any other gods but ones they invented for their own (Indians in Americas, Aborigines, … before Christians came to “enlighten” them) could have reached heaven if they only lived decent and honest lives.

    You DID say that, didn’t you?
    Shall I trace your posts for you?
    You told us, in fact that no “modern” religions, no believing in “modern” gods (Jahveh, Allah, …) is necessary to live decent and honest lives (and earn heaven).

    Why would anyone wish to believe in any gods if it is possible to live decent and honest lives without caring the burden of a religion?

    Where that decency and honesty came from, if they lived decent and honest lives without knowing Jesus or Allah?
    Where did their “moral knowledge” come if those people had no clue about Christianity and Jesus (because Jesus was thousands of years late to inform them about himself)?

  38. on 24 Nov 2012 at 8:01 am 38.Severin said …

    Messenger
    You told us what we already knew: it IS possible to live decent and honest lives, and to be highly moral, without believing in your gods.

    I AM a highly moral individual, plus very responsible, very honest, cheerful, solidary,

  39. on 24 Nov 2012 at 8:11 am 39.Severin said …

    38 continued

    Messenger
    You told us what we already knew:
    it IS possible to live decent and honest lives, and to be highly moral, without believing in your gods.

    I AM a highly moral individual, plus very responsible, very honest, cheerful, solidary, compassionate, ready to help (and helping!), a “workholic”, … , a good father, a good friend, … a good neighbor, …
    … which obviously proves, because I am an atheist, that gods and religions are, in fact, totally unnecessary for people to live decent and honest lives.

    If there was heaven, I would have deserved it by YOUR definition.

    Why do I need god(s)?

  40. on 24 Nov 2012 at 4:25 pm 40.The messenger said …

    Brother .Severin, are you brain dead?

    All I ment in comment 36 was that moral knowledge is more important than scientific knowledge. I was not talking about how a person can get to heaven in that comment.

    Apparently you are not mentally capable of contemplating a single thing that I have commented about, so once again I will tell you how a person can go to heaven. If someone lives a kind, companionate, loving, generous, honest, peace loving life that person will go to heaven.

    The next time do not try to change the subject of the conversation.

  41. on 24 Nov 2012 at 4:32 pm 41.The messenger said …

    Brother 39.Severin, Jesus has done so much for us and this is how you repay him? He died for us and you still have no love for him, you are nothing but an ungrateful little troll, just like that idiot Alex. Jesus is the one that gave you your family and friends, you should be at least a little bit grateful.

  42. on 25 Nov 2012 at 12:10 am 42.Severin said …

    Messenger,
    “If someone lives a kind, companionate, loving, generous, honest, peace loving life that person will go to heaven.”

    Thank you for explaining us that we don’t need Jesus (who is also Allah) to go to heaven!Thank you for telling us that all we need is to live a kind (compassionate, …) life to deserve heaven.

    Now, if we only somehow found heaven!

    Messenger, I adore you!
    You are intensively working for atheism and doing very bad service to religions, especially to Christianity.
    Please keep posting here! I have no intention to answer your posts any more, but I am sure anyone having doubts about gods will become an atheist after reading 2-3 posts of yours.
    Some 150 – 200 years ago you would have been burnt for disgracing Christianity (Jesus = Allah, no need to believe in god to go to heaven, …).
    Today, no one will harm you, you are free to shit around as much as you please.
    Keep doing it!
    No one will burn you!

    (The only comment of a ten year old boy whom I asked to read several your posts (and who is much better in English than myself) was: is he an adult idiot, or a retarded boy in age of 6?!)

    P.S. I am not your brother.

  43. on 25 Nov 2012 at 1:28 am 43.The messenger said …

    I have given you proof of Jesus’s existence and yet you still refuse to realize that Jesus is real. You are nothing but a mentally disabled troll.

    It is true, you do not have to believe in God to go to heaven.

    The reason that we should worship God is because worshiping is how we show our respect for him and his teachings.

    Jesus has done so much for you. He died for you, and you still have no respect or love for him. He suffered unimaginable pain and died for you and you still have no love or respect for him.

    All you do is disrespect Jesus, and he continues to forgive you. News flash, someday Jesus is going to stop forgiving you and he is going to punish you for your insolence, and disrespect by sending you into the fires of hell.

    You can avoid that fate if you would just show him a little love and respect for the things that he went through for you.

  44. on 25 Nov 2012 at 1:37 am 44.The messenger said …

    Brother 39.Severin, Jesus has done so much for us and this is how you repay him? He died for us and you still have no love for him, you are nothing but an ungrateful little troll, just like that idiot Alex. Jesus is the one that gave you your family and friends, you should be at least a little bit grateful.

    All people are my brothers and sisters. We were all created by God and we are all his children. You can be an atheist if you want to, all I am saying is do not disrespect him by accusing him of being hateful. God is not hateful in any way, he is a loving, kind father, he is merciful and forgiving.

    His love is limitless, but his patience has a limit.

  45. on 25 Nov 2012 at 1:41 am 45.The messenger said …

    All people are my brothers and sisters. We were all created by God and we are all his children. You can be an atheist if you want to, all I am saying is do not disrespect him by accusing him of being hateful. God is not hateful in any way, he is a loving, kind father, he is merciful and forgiving.

    His love is limitless, but his patience has a limit.

  46. on 25 Nov 2012 at 2:50 am 46.The messenger said …

    on 25 Nov 2012 at 1:28 am 43.The messenger said …
    I have given you proof of Jesus’s existence and yet you still refuse to realize that Jesus is real. You are nothing but a mentally disabled troll.
    It is true, you do not have to believe in God to go to heaven.
    The reason that we should worship God is because worshiping is how we show our respect for him and his teachings.
    Jesus has done so much for you. He died for you, and you still have no respect or love for him. He suffered unimaginable pain and died for you and you still have no love or respect for him.
    All you do is disrespect Jesus, and he continues to forgive you. News flash, someday Jesus is going to stop forgiving you and he is going to punish you for your insolence, and disrespect by sending you into the fires of hell.
    You can avoid that fate if you would just show him a little love and respect for the things that he went through for you.

  47. on 25 Nov 2012 at 4:44 am 47.Anonymous said …

    No, you fool. It was a metiphorical [sic] crucifixion. Don’t you remember that you claim the bible is full of love and peace? Wake up troll and get with your program.

  48. on 25 Nov 2012 at 4:53 am 48.Anonymous said …

    Messenger said: “His love is limitless, but his patience has a limit.” — well, then, he’s not perfect, is he? That wraps up the case against the existence of the Christian version of Yahweh / J-boy.

    Keep it up Messenger. You may be a troll, but you’re an excellent resource for providing arguments against Xtianity

  49. on 25 Nov 2012 at 4:21 pm 49.The messenger said …

    48.Anonymous Jesus is perfect.

    The amount of patience that Jesus has for you does not determine weather he is perfect of not. If you fail to see this you are an incompedent brain dead troll. I pray that you use your brain for once in your life.

    I pitty you brother.

  50. on 25 Nov 2012 at 4:24 pm 50.The messenger said …

    Brother 47.Anonymous, the crusifiction is literal. Not metiphorical.

    Some parts of the bible are metaphorical, and some parts are literal.
    The crusifiction is literal.

  51. on 25 Nov 2012 at 9:10 pm 51.Anonymous said …

    Provide the definitive list of which is literal and which is not. This needs to be complete.

  52. on 25 Nov 2012 at 11:12 pm 52.The messenger said …

    Brother 51.Anonymous, as much as I want to give you a list of what is literal and what is metaphorical in the bible, I do not have enough time in my schedule to type up that entire list.

    There is anouther way to acquire the information you desire. Go to St. James Church, which is located in Elizabethtown Kentucky, or go to Rome and speak to the pope. They will give you the information that you desire.

  53. on 26 Nov 2012 at 1:31 am 53.The messenger said …

    Brother 1.A, keep up the good work.

  54. on 26 Nov 2012 at 2:35 am 54.Anonymous said …

    Who at St James Church should I speak to, who should I say sent me, and what exactly am I going to ask for – does it have a particular name?

    What format will this information be presented in?

  55. on 26 Nov 2012 at 3:47 am 55.The messenger said …

    54.Anonymous ask Father Chuck.

    He should be able to give you the information that you need.

  56. on 26 Nov 2012 at 3:51 am 56.The messenger said …

    If father Chuck is not available contact the Preists that is there.

    Tell him that a member a friend sent you.

    I do not know what format he will put it in.

  57. on 26 Nov 2012 at 3:54 am 57.The messenger said …

    If you are not able to contact any of the people that I have listed, there is another way that you can get the information that you need.

    Go to Sunday mass at a Catholic Church, you will find the information that you need there.

  58. on 26 Nov 2012 at 4:44 am 58.Anonymous said …

    I also asked you other things. Why do you persist in only giving partial answers? You do this a lot, your evasiveness is tiresome. I don’t want you moving any more goalposts.

    Who at St James Church should I speak to, who should I say sent me, and what exactly am I going to ask for – does it have a particular name?

    What format will this information be presented in?

  59. on 26 Nov 2012 at 5:17 am 59.The messenger said …

    58.Anonymous I gave you all the information that you need.

  60. on 26 Nov 2012 at 5:20 am 60.The messenger said …

    If father Chuck is not available contact the Priest that is there.

    Tell him that a friend sent you.

    I do not know what format he will put it in.

    If you are not able to contact any of the people that I have listed, there is another way that you can get the information that you need.
    Go to Sunday mass at a Catholic Church, you will find the information that you need there.

    There is the full answer.

  61. on 26 Nov 2012 at 5:46 pm 61.DPK said …

    58 A:

    I enjoy a good joke as much as the next guy, but as I’m sure everyone here with half a brain has already realized, the messenger is obviously somewhat mentally challenged. I don’t say that in a sarcastic or snarky way. He is obviously mentally handicapped.
    Please stop… trying to goad him into giving personal information exposes him to potential risks from crazies and really, who knows who who may be lurking.
    If it’s a fair target like the Ass-trophyscist or one of Hor’s sock puppet personas who are just palin stupid, or willfully ignorant… fair game. But messenger isn’t playing with a full deck, and goading him is not funny, really. Stop.

  62. on 26 Nov 2012 at 8:42 pm 62.The messenger said …

    Brother DPK, I am not mentally challenged in any way.
    I am not crazy either.

  63. on 27 Nov 2012 at 2:15 pm 63.Lou(DFW) said …

    62.The messenger said …

    “Brother DPK, I am not mentally challenged in any way.
    I am not crazy either.”

    And you speak to/for god, too, correct?

  64. on 27 Nov 2012 at 8:24 pm 64.DPK said …

    62.The messenger said …

    Brother DPK, I am not mentally challenged in any way.
    I am not crazy either.

    Well, I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. If indeed, you are not mentally handicapped, which I doubt, then one can only conclude that you are incredibly stupid. From your childlike manner and poor reasoning abilities and poor command of the language, I’d guess you had Down’s Syndrome. Either way, do not let others here goad you into releasing personal information about yourself or your location. It is simply a safety issue… you do not know who is lurking in cyberworld. As deluded as you are, no sane person wishes you ill.

  65. on 27 Nov 2012 at 9:47 pm 65.Anonymous said …

    I don’t think messenger is mentally ill, at least not in the manner implied. What I think he is is someone playing games and trying to goad people into dead-end arguments. Thats why he keeps moving goal posts and providing evasive or partial non-answers. To that extent, his personal information was always safe.

    Of course, I could be wrong so on the off-chance that he really is a Catholic, and he really believes that some god spoke to him, DPK makes a valid point. Either way, not engaging his nonsense would seem prudent.

    And, no, messenger, I’m not going to be drawn into your usual bleating responses.

  66. on 27 Nov 2012 at 10:55 pm 66.The Prophet said …

    I know for a fact that the messenger is lying when he says he talks to God. I spoke to God this morning, and he told me he does NOT speak to William, otherwise known as the messenger. He told me William is lying about his communication with God and does so to gain attention. He said for me to tell William that he does not like people mus-representing his word, and that deceit is never the way to spread His message of peace and love for all mankind. William, Jesus also told me that those who claim falsely to be prophets of the Lord are doing the work of the devil, and that there is a special place reserved in the fires of hell for those that lie about their relationship with God.
    William, I urge you to heed my warning and admit that the stories you tell about going to heaven and speaking with our Lord and Savior are untrue. Please, please. please. your immortal soul is at stake. God is very upset with you, but he will forgive you if you admit what you have done and speak only the truth. Otherwise you are a False Prophet and will spend eternity in torment.
    I know these things because I am a True Prophet, and I have spoken to Our Lord, God, personally.

  67. on 28 Nov 2012 at 12:49 am 67.The messenger said …

    66.The Prophet I am not a prophet.

    I never claimed that I was a phophet.

    Here is a word of advice for you, you do not have to be a Preists or a prophet to speak in Jesus’s name. The only qualification for speaking in our father’s name is a kind, loving, forgiving, honest heart.

  68. on 28 Nov 2012 at 1:08 am 68.The messenger said …

    Brother 66.The Prophet, if you truly did speak to our father this morning, he would have told you my full name.

    If your claim is true, tell us all, what is my full name?

  69. on 28 Nov 2012 at 1:42 am 69.The messenger said …

    66.The Prophet every thing that I have said on this blog is true.

    Every thing that I do on this site is done to help the people on this site.

    I do not do this for attention.

  70. on 28 Nov 2012 at 10:31 am 70.The messenger said …

    66.The Prophet the vision that I experienced may have been a dream, I do not know.

    I am unsure now of it now.

    Tell me, how can I tell if it is true or not?

  71. on 28 Nov 2012 at 4:21 pm 71.The Prophet said …

    William, God did not tell me your full name. I have faith that he has his reasons for that. I am not here to “prove” anything to you. Look into your own heart and you know that I speak the truth from our Father.
    I will pray that you remain faithful to our Lord and continue spreading his word, but not though lies and false claims. It is his will that you be truthful in all things and stop pretending to be his prophet until such time as he demands you do so. He says you do not understand the harm you do by falsely claiming to have visited him in heaven and spoken directly to him. Your’s is the work of the great deceiver. You already know this is true.

  72. on 28 Nov 2012 at 7:42 pm 72.DPK said …

    So now we have 2 nut jobs each proclaiming the other is a fraud. Nothing new there… welcome to the worldview called “theism”!
    Messenger… glad to hear that you now have doubts about your hallucinations that you adamantly claimed were real before. Could it have been a dream? Since you’re asking, I’d say your answer is self evident.
    Another of god’s self appointed prophets outed as a fraud. Now the only question is, what asylum has “The Prophet” escaped from?

  73. on 28 Nov 2012 at 9:21 pm 73.The messenger said …

    72.DPK I still believe that my vision may be true, but I am not sure.

  74. on 28 Nov 2012 at 9:24 pm 74.The messenger said …

    71.The Prophet thank you brother, but I honestly do not know if my vision is true or false. It may have been a dream or it may have been real, I honestly do not know.

  75. on 28 Nov 2012 at 9:26 pm 75.The messenger said …

    71.The Prophet of you say that my vison is false then I believe you.

    I will never type about that dream again. I promise.

  76. on 28 Nov 2012 at 9:27 pm 76.The messenger said …

    Thank you for helping me see the truth.

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