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Christianity Thomas on 23 Oct 2012 12:37 am

The Insanity of Religion – Secret Mormon Rituals

The insanity of religion is on display in full force in this hidden camera footage from inside a Mormon temple:

Why does any sane person participate in these insane rituals?

36 Responses to “The Insanity of Religion – Secret Mormon Rituals”

  1. on 23 Oct 2012 at 1:08 am 1.alex said …

    daaaymnn. this is the best one yet. fuckin salvation by proxy. you don’t even have to recognize and acknowledge. anybody can be saved. why don’t we just grab all the women we want and marry even underage kids? can i get an amen?

    at least the mormons are xtians, better than that muslim in chief, barrack o hisself. can i geet a witnass?

  2. on 23 Oct 2012 at 2:19 am 2.The messenger said …

    This video is all lies.

    Stop deceiving people with this crap, you fool.

  3. on 23 Oct 2012 at 2:20 am 3.Truth said …

    In late 2011, Greene joined the fight against a Nativity scene that had been set up outside the courthouse in the town of Athens, Texas, threatening to file a lawsuit over it. Shortly after he made his threat, however, he discovered that his ability to see was rapidly deteriorating and he would soon be blind, so he withdrew his threats and left the Nativity alone.

    That’s when Jessica Crye, a Christian woman from Athens, asked her pastor, Erick Graham of Sand Springs Baptist Church, if they could help Greene. As a result of her kindness, thousands of dollars in donations have gone toward helping Greene, who has reconsidered his view of God as a result.

    “There’s been one lingering thought in the back of my head my entire life, and it’s one thought that I’ve never been able to reconcile, and that is the vast difference between all the animals and us,” Greene told The Christian Post on Tuesday, as he began to explain his recent transformation from atheist to Christian. The theory of evolution didn’t answer his questions, he says, so he just set those questions aside and didn’t think about them anymore.

    But when the Christians in a town that had reason to be angry with him showed him a gesture of love, he began reconsidering his beliefs altogether. He eventually began to realize that evolution would never have the answer to his questions, he says, and it was at that time he began to believe in God.

    “I kind of realized that the questions I [was] asking you just had to accept on faith without doubting every period and every comma,” he said. He later began studying the Bible, both the Old Testament and the Gospels, and also discovered his belief that Jesus is the Son of God.

  4. on 23 Oct 2012 at 2:22 am 4.The messenger said …

    This video is fake. The baptizing of the dead bobbies is symbolic, it symbolizes the cleansing of sins. And they all ways get permission from the family before they baptize them.

    Stop deceiving people with these pathetic lies Thomas.

  5. on 23 Oct 2012 at 2:27 am 5.The messenger said …

    3.Truth keep up the good work brother.

  6. on 23 Oct 2012 at 8:41 am 6.freddies_dead said …

    Patrick Greene, an atheist activist in Texas who said last month he had become a believer in Christ after a Christian woman showed compassion to him, now says his conversion was merely out of excitement.

    “I got all caught up in the excitement,” Greene, a retired cab driver who lives in East Texas since 2005, told San Antonio Express-News.

    In an apparent attempt to play a victim, the 63-year-old resident of San Antonio said, “It’s easy to do when you get ostracized and treated like garbage. When you’re an atheist, you’re public enemy No. 1.”

    Having gone back to atheism, Greene is opposing Christians once again. He fought against Mayor Julián Castro’s participation in the National Day of Prayer event on City Hall Thursday. In a lawsuit, he argued that the event was organized by evangelical Christians, was sectarian and therefore unconstitutional for a mayor to engage in.

  7. on 23 Oct 2012 at 1:55 pm 7.BrianE said …

    Wow, the trolls are out in force on this one! Not surprising, since this video is extremely damning and shows just how utterly psychotic Mormons are.

  8. on 23 Oct 2012 at 1:56 pm 8.Lou(DFW) said …

    6.freddies_dead said … 3.Truth is full of it.

  9. on 23 Oct 2012 at 2:00 pm 9.Lou(DFW) said …

    4.The messenger said …

    “The baptizing of the dead bobbies is symbolic, it symbolizes the cleansing of sins. And they all ways get permission from the family before they baptize them.”

    LOL! They get the family’s permission before baptizing dead “bobbies!” Is it the Royal Family?

    “Messenger” is an absolute moron!

  10. on 23 Oct 2012 at 2:57 pm 10.Anonymous said …

    Well, it didn’t take long for the sock-puppets to descend and try to derail this thread!

    No wonder. Once they start going down the path of examining how crazy Mormon beliefs are then they are one step closer to admitting that theirs are equally as crazy.

    Other than visualizing the ceremony, much of the article above is public knowledge. It’s astonishing how “Christians” can support other “Christians” with confounding beliefs without their brains exploding.

    Proxy baptism is a supreme example of religious belief gone overboard. Their desperation to swell their numbers knows no bounds:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_for_the_dead#Jewish_Holocaust_victims

    Finally, Lou said: “Messenger” is an absolute moron!” Yes, and he’s a troll too and getting quite fat with all the attention we’ve been paying him.

  11. on 23 Oct 2012 at 8:31 pm 11.The messenger said …

    9. Lou(DFW) the royal comment was very random.

    Comment when you have something to say that makes sense.

  12. on 23 Oct 2012 at 8:32 pm 12.The messenger said …

    9.Lou(DFW) that baptizing comment was for the video, you idiot.

    Home back when you get a brain.

  13. on 23 Oct 2012 at 8:36 pm 13.The messenger said …

    10.Anonymous Christians are suppose to support other Christians, even if they are not a part of the same church.

    I pray that you will understand this.

  14. on 23 Oct 2012 at 11:08 pm 14.A said …

    Wow, Green is a bigger nut than most. I’m a Christian now I’m not. What next? Buddhism? I bet he kept the money….

    He is a sweet guy. He spends his life in lawsuits attempting to stop others from practicing their religion. It is probably why he is sick so much. He is still a fake.

    Anony,

    Great job! You whine about getting off the Mormon topic with a Baptist article. Thumbs up big guy!

    Hey, will you be protesting Harry Reid to get him removed from office?

  15. on 23 Oct 2012 at 11:47 pm 15.Anonymous said …

    And ‘A’ proves again, that his intention here is to insult. That and he doesn’t know the differences between Baptists and Mormons.

  16. on 24 Oct 2012 at 2:49 am 16.Slapnuts McGee said …

    How can anybody watch that shit and not think to themselves, “Wow. This is fucking ridiculous!”

    Oh yeah, I forgot. Delusion is a powerful thing.

    My diary entry for the night:

    “Dear god, thank you for not making me a mormon.”

  17. on 24 Oct 2012 at 2:53 am 17.The messenger said …

    on 23 Oct 2012 at 8:32 pm 12.The messenger said …
    9.Lou(DFW) that baptizing comment was for the video.

  18. on 24 Oct 2012 at 3:20 am 18.JALindsay said …

    Maybe they just really want some secret handshakes. I know I do.

  19. on 25 Oct 2012 at 2:46 am 19.The messenger said …

    on 23 Oct 2012 at 2:22 am 4.The messenger said …
    This video is fake. The baptizing of the dead bodies is symbolic, it symbolizes the cleansing of sins. And the church all ways gets permission from the family before they baptize them.
    Stop deceiving people with these pathetic lies Thomas.

  20. on 25 Oct 2012 at 11:02 am 20.freddies_dead said …

    14.A said …

    He spends his life in lawsuits attempting to stop others from practicing their religion.

    Correction: he spends his life in lawsuits trying to stop others from forcing their religion on everyone else.

    19.The messenger said …

    And the church all ways gets permission from the family before they baptize them.

    So they’ve gotten the permission from the family’s of all those holocaust victims they decided to baptise? Never had to “un-baptise” any of them after complaints? And it’s never been a controversial issue at all? Thought not, moron.

  21. on 25 Oct 2012 at 12:14 pm 21.Lou(DFW) said …

    14.ASS said …

    “Wow, Green is a bigger nut than most [xtians]. I’m a Christian now I’m not.”

    You said it, ASS. He’s a bigger nut than most xtians.

    “What next? Buddhism? I bet he kept the money….”

    If he did, it’s not even pennies compared to the amount of money the catholic church “keeps,” or compared to the tens of billions of dollars that religious organizations receive in tax subsidies by defrauding the US government.

    “He spends his life…”

    Compared to ASS, who spends no time providing evidence for his imaginary god, but a lot of time lying about atheists because he knows his god is imaginary.

    “…in lawsuits attempting to stop others from practicing their religion.”

    As usual, ASS must lie about atheists in order to make a point. ASS, show us how he attempted to stop anybody from doing such a thing. Next, ASS will tell us that nobody can pray in the classroom or at high school football games, all because of those mean-old atheists.

    “It is probably why he is sick so much.”

    Right, ASS. It’s a well-known fact that filing lawsuits makes people sick – well, “probably,” anyway.

    “He is still a fake.”

    But ASS and his superstitious belief isn’t! LOL!

    Prove it’s not fake, ASS. Provide some evidence for your imaginary god.

  22. on 25 Oct 2012 at 12:20 pm 22.Lou(DFW) said …

    11.The messenger said …

    “9. Lou(DFW) the royal comment was very random.
    Comment when you have something to say that makes sense.”

    (sigh) Because you don’t understand something doesn’t necessarily mean that it doesn’t make sense. It means that your extremely limited intellect prevents you from understanding it.

    Any discussion with you is like having a discussion with a talking parrot, except that parrot doesn’t pretend to know what he’s talking about.

  23. on 25 Oct 2012 at 4:30 pm 23.JALindsay said …

    Messenger is that kid that everyone knew in junior high. You know, the one who saw that music video for Aerosmith’s “Crazy” and then proceeded to tell you that he rode a motorcycle through the desert while making out with a girl that looked just like Alicia Silverstone one time, even though he’s 12, and he was going like 140 miles per hour and outran the cops and then still has Alicia’s phone number but he can’t show it to you because he keeps it in a secret book locked in a cupboard in his bedroom with about 100 other hot girls’ names?

    Yeah, he’s that guy. At some point, you just have to say, “yeah, okay,” and hope he goes home soon.

  24. on 25 Oct 2012 at 11:47 pm 24.The messenger said …

    20.freddies_dead I was not talking about the people in the holocast.

    And another thing, none of them where baptized.

  25. on 25 Oct 2012 at 11:51 pm 25.The messenger said …

    20.freddies_dead you did not understand that I was talking about what the video said.

    If you watch it and then read my comment, you would understand this.

  26. on 26 Oct 2012 at 3:36 am 26.Slapnuts McGee said …

    …or hope he eventually awakens from his delusionary stupor…

  27. on 26 Oct 2012 at 11:09 pm 27.The messenger said …

    on 25 Oct 2012 at 11:51 pm 25.The messenger said …
    20.freddies_dead you did not understand that I was talking about what the video said.
    If you watch it and then read my comment, you would understand this.

  28. on 28 Oct 2012 at 11:16 pm 28.TheJesusFreak said …

    Arguements deep here but just wanted to note something:
    Mormons have some really odd and not entirely Biblical beliefs, and many Christians consider them to be a cult. Do not consider this video, however questionable of its authenticity, as Christian insanity.

  29. on 28 Oct 2012 at 11:50 pm 29.Anonymous said …

    Please explain to us how you can know that your conception of Christianity, including the nature of god and Jesus, is correct and that the Mormons are not? After all, there are 41000+ different Christian denominations all vying for that title.

    Also, please do clarify which version of Christianity that you are speaking for. This would be most interesting indeed.

  30. on 29 Oct 2012 at 12:25 am 30.TheJesusFreak said …

    Well let’s put it this way, Biblically, what the Mormons say is untrue. They have their own extra book that they tag on. And honestly, I can’t say that my particular version of Christianity is completely correct. It would be extremely presumptuous to claim that I am entirely correct on my beliefs and every other denomination is not. I am 99.9% certain that somewhere, I believe something about God that is unbiblical. On the other hand, I am 100% certain that I got the most important part correct and something that nearly every branch of Christianity shares. Jesus was God in human form who came to save all from their sins for those who believe. This is actually where Mormons fall short if I am correct. They believe that they need to do all this other works-based stuff to get into heaven, which is unbiblical.

    As for which denomination I speak for, I am non-denominational. I do not stand for anyone, except for the Bible which I believe to be 100% true.

  31. on 29 Oct 2012 at 1:25 am 31.Anonymous said …

    So, in a nutshell your version is correct because of what you believe from the bible and the Mormons are incorrect because you disagree with their interpretation? Your position being one of being “more biblical”? I’m trying to be fair to your position so if it’s misstated, please correct me.

    However, different denominations have different books and interpretations so, yes, I get the point about what you are saying about the Book of Mormon but you could apply that argument to the Quran or any religion you choose. Correct?

    Does not your argument hold for any religion against any other religion? Nothing you’ve stated shows any reason why we should take your word vs anyone else. Or did I miss some defining point?

    You state that the bible is 100% true. Would that be literally true? True as in a talking snake and a donkey, great flood, and so on. Or is it some other version of “true” which is somehow open to interpretation?

    If the answer involves metaphor or parable, how do you know which is which?

    Also, to save someone else the time, how old would you say the earth and universe are?

  32. on 29 Oct 2012 at 1:29 am 32.alex said …

    “..the Bible which I believe to be 100% true.”

    dude, you’re just gonna say half of the bullshit is allegorical, but the rest is 100% true?

    no? which parts of the bible is not to be taken literally? and you know this because you got a bullshit degree in theology? you can’t pick and choose, because you don’t have the final say. you morons invoke the bible when you ban gay marriages, but you cowardly refuse to stone adulterers because they might turn around and kick your ass.

    mormons believe in bullshit? they say the same shit about you. congrats, you’re both right.

  33. on 29 Oct 2012 at 2:15 am 33.TheJesusFreak said …

    Hang on I’m going to take this one at a time: XD
    @anonymous
    First of all, thank you for being respectful, I appreciate it a lot :)
    Well one, I BELIEVE my version is correct, I’m not at all certain on the matter and two, I believe that Mormons are incorrect for the exact reason you stated. This is not out of spite or disrespect. I have open-mindedly talked about Mormonism with Mormons. But I definitely do not worship beings from some other planet, I can sincerely say I do not practice handshakes to get into heaven, and I do not indulge in the practice of baptizing a proxy to get someone else into heaven. Baptizing doesn’t save anyway. As of my position being more biblical…? Well, I suppose you could put it that way…Mormons are not incorrect because I’m more Biblical, they’re incorrect because well…from the Biblical standpoint, they’re incorrect. :)

    And as to applying that argument, well it depends on if that religion includes the Bible. Mormons have the Bible, Muslims do not. Do you see? I’m not quite sure how well I stated that.

    You are correct, I have not given you any reason at all to believe that the Bible is true. My point here was just to say that Mormons do not from most Christian’s perspective, correctly interpret the Bible.

    As to if I take the Bible literally or not, that does TO A POINT stand to interpretation. Yes, I believe there was a great flood and if you were to point me out to talking animals, and I looked at in context, and it looked like it was meant to be taken literally, then yes, I would take it literally. That being said, there are cases in which the Bible is obviously not meant to be taken literally. For example, faith is not literally a mustard seed.

    And generally, I tell the difference because the Bible will often tell me, or the headings will do so. Common sense is required. :)

    As to the age of the universe, well most Christians who have studied their theology would say the universe is only thousands of years old and I would tend to side with those. On the other hand, engaging me on a debate on how old the universe actually is, is pointless as I have not studied my theology enough to definitively prove either way. :)

    @Alex
    Well, one, since you answered your own first question, I’ll skip over that. XD
    Two, I said earlier in this comment how I would take something literally so you can reference that :)
    Three, I don’t have a degree in theology.I never said I did.
    Four, I don’t pick and choose, if you mean that I believe parts of the Bible and not others. Maybe I’m misunderstanding you?
    Five, if I were to stone anyone, I highly doubt they would be able to kick anything. Not to mention that the practice of stoning is highly outdated. Nevertheless, I understand your point. I’m not sure if you read the entire passage on not stoning adulterers, but if you haven’t or maybe you misunderstand it, I would be happy to explain to you. Gay marriage is a touchy point. Yes, I agree that homosexuality is wrong. But I’m not about to be Westboro church or anything. Westboro is well….avoided in most Christian environments. We’re not proud of them by any means. Neither do I hate gay/lesbian people. I’m not going to treat them any differently than anyone else.

    Six, I’m not sure I quite understand your point. I don’t think what Mormons believe is completely untrue, but I don’t think they’re entirely right either. I am not attacking Mormons, I’m just stating a point. And I’ve never heard a Mormon speak of Christians in at all a spiteful way. Quite the opposite is true.

  34. on 29 Oct 2012 at 2:40 am 34.The messenger said …

    33.TheJesusFreak well said my friend.

    But one thing that I would like to explain, baptizing is the process of asking God to wash away our sins and forgive us so we will be able to enter the kingdom of heaven.

    I think that you are doing a good job so far on commenting, keep up the good work.

  35. on 29 Oct 2012 at 1:59 pm 35.TheJesusFreak said …

    Well actually, I would respectfully disagree on that. I consider baptism to be your declaration to everyone else that yes, you are a Christian. But Biblically, you don’t need to be baptized to get into heaven. You just need to believe.

    And thank you :)

  36. on 29 Oct 2012 at 8:27 pm 36.The messenger said …

    35.TheJesusFreak you are welcome.

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