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Christianity &Islam &Judaism Thomas on 16 Sep 2012 01:03 am

The Dalai Lama and Hilary Clinton describe a world free of religion

In the past week there have been unbelievable demonstrations in the Muslim world that make Muslims look like savages. Signs like this and this show just how ridiculous believers in the Muslim faith can be. Christianity can be just as bad – denying civil rights to people they hate for no reason, and bullying those people to the point where they commit suicide.

That is why we are starting to see the world’s leaders separating themselves from religion. The Dalai Lama posted this on Facebook:

All the world’s major religions, with their emphasis on love, compassion, patience, tolerance, and forgiveness can and do promote inner values. But the reality of the world today is that grounding ethics in religion is no longer adequate. This is why I am increasingly convinced that the time has come to find a way of thinking about spirituality and ethics beyond religion altogether.

Hilary Clinton made this public statement this week:

“As long as there are those who are willing to shed blood and take innocent life in the name of religion, the name of God, the world will never know a true and lasting peace.”

What Clinton is saying is that we need to end religion. The Quran and the Bible have violence baked right in, and there is no way to separate the religions from these repulsive books. Watch this video to see how truly repulsive the Bible is:

One would think that modern, intelligent people would easily reject such a repulsive book.

62 Responses to “The Dalai Lama and Hilary Clinton describe a world free of religion”

  1. on 16 Sep 2012 at 10:12 am 1.alex said …

    bible,koran,both idiot books no doubt.
    righteous rioting morons in the middle east
    hypocrites protesting movie but enjoying
    americas finest porn.

    say it again. if theists keep da shit to themselves,
    everyones cool. no need to defend da
    powerful God.

  2. on 16 Sep 2012 at 11:19 am 2.Anonymous said …

    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/police-gas-sydney-protesters-20120915-25yrb.html

  3. on 16 Sep 2012 at 5:31 pm 3.Curmudgeon said …

    What Clinton actually said is do away with “those who are willing to shed blood and take innocent life in the name of religion”. Not do away with religion but Thomas has always had comprehension issues.

    But I agree with Thomas. Do away with religion and teach the truth. A relationship with Jesus Christ is the source of everlasting peace. Religion is no more than man made confusion.

  4. on 16 Sep 2012 at 5:46 pm 4.MrQ said …

    Cur
    “Religion is no more than man made confusion.”

    Strangely, I agree. Common ground…… We’ve found some.
    And, Cur, what is religion based on? Holy texts, such as the bible, which are equally confusing.

    The bit about JC does not cut the mustard. Just ask Solomon. Best solution is to abandon the clutter of MAN MADE FAITHS and look for truth. Teaching Truth is the wrong approach. Teaching how to search for truth gets better mileage.

    BTW, welcome back Cur. Seems like the Sol show kept you and the other socks in the drawer for a bit.

  5. on 16 Sep 2012 at 5:52 pm 5.alex said …

    “Do away with religion and teach the truth. A relationship with Jesus Christ is the source of everlasting peace.”

    you are a moron. do away except keep christ. fucking idiot. get the fuck out of here.

    your clinton shit is irrelevant. do away with mother fuckers like you and the world is a better place.

    think about it for a second, if you can? if everybody kept their god to themselves, what would be the problem?

    you like to say your creationism/bible bullshit is the truth, like science? your shit has been trashed in public debate, investigation and scrutiny. the courts have already ruled on it, so just shut the fuck up.

  6. on 16 Sep 2012 at 6:00 pm 6.galvão said …

    How to make an omelet without breaking the egg?
    Clinton is right yes, you can not make a better world with the existence intelerante religion. How to relate to an imaginary being, Jesus, can be a source of peace, Curmudgeon? Religion is the most complete disease that mankind has ever created! Grow up, or better, heal up!

  7. on 16 Sep 2012 at 7:33 pm 7.Martin said …

    “think about it for a second, if you can? if everybody kept their god to themselves, what would be the problem?”

    Think about this for a second, well maybe not think, but get someone to read this to you and interpret. Keep your bigoted opinion and your very limited vocabulary to yourself. Imagine what a much more peaceful, intelligent and reasonable world this would be.

    Keep your seed to yourself so you do not breed. Imagine how much more peaceful this world would be.

    What would be the problem?

  8. on 16 Sep 2012 at 8:23 pm 8.alex said …

    fuck you martin. which one is your god? your deflection has failed. my writing is not perfect but real, not like your fake god. breed? i bet you breed all time time while waiting for your other tab to load your religious porn?

  9. on 17 Sep 2012 at 2:07 am 9.CastBound said …

    Guys like alex cannot thrive in an atmosphere where others are different. He would like the religious to be silent and only hear his viewpoint. Silence all dissenters and strike the masses who do not comply. Stalin, Pol Pot and Castro were the same type of individual. Intelligent beings value diversity.

    alex’s comeback was so well thought out and impressive.

    #alex=atheists

  10. on 17 Sep 2012 at 9:24 am 10.freddies_dead said …

    Castbound, Martin – any evidence to support the existence of your imaginary God? If not, everything Alex says, no matter how crude or unimpressive you find it, is spot on. Show us the evidence or shut the fuck up – keep your delusion to yourself.

  11. on 17 Sep 2012 at 12:19 pm 11.Severin said …

    9 Castbound
    “Guys like alex cannot thrive in an atmosphere where others are different. He would like the religious to be silent and only hear his viewpoint.”

    But atheists ARE silent! They usually do not react unless someone tries to aggressively attack and change their opinion.

    Religious are NOT silent.
    Millions of churches, mosques, synagogues, …
    bells, vociferation from minarets, aggressive propaganda on TV and Internet, street “hunters”, door-to-door “hunters”, pompous and pathetic iconography, scenography and way of speaking, …

    When did you see an atheist ringing a bell on an “atheist church” or screaming from a minaret?
    When did an atheist stop you on the street, or came to your door to tell you what to think?
    If you ever met an atheist, was he dressed in a circus robes? Did he wear some special signs? Was he aggressively (foot to block your door) offering you some brochures?

    I have nothing against any religion unless it tries to impose its opinion to me.
    I never came to any of millions of religious blogs to say people what to think.
    I never came to any church to tell people not to believe whatever they believe.
    And I never will!

    Yet, you ARE here!
    Why?
    What do you want of me (us)?

    Be polite, and if you want to say something that you expect other people to consider, try to provide some evidences for your claims. It would be fair enough to give some arguments, at least, and/or your own explanation for your claims.

    THEN, maybe, we could talk.

  12. on 17 Sep 2012 at 12:35 pm 12.MrQ said …

    Castbound
    “He would like the religious to be silent and only hear his viewpoint.”

    I personally think that we should live in a secular society. The influences of religion need not extend beyond the home nor the church. You and Solomon can get together in your places of worship and discuss important issues such as: How many angels can fit on the head of a pin? You can use the bible and koran to back your respective arguments. How does that sound, CB?

    BTW: Welcome back, CB. We were having such a nice discussion on another thread when you suddenly disappeared (in the same way Curmudgeon did on a different thread….hmmmmm) Do you know the person with the id Curmudgeon? Don’t lie – it would be very Christian if you did ;-) .

  13. on 17 Sep 2012 at 2:29 pm 13.DPK said …

    Castbound pulling the persecution card again. Look at the mean atheist who doesn’t respect my bat shit crazy claims. Boo-hoo, poor me. Which is worse, Alex telling you to put up or shut up, or some christian picketing a dead soldier’s funeral with a “god hates fags” sign? Which is worse Alex’s colorful vocabulary, or some Muslims showing up at a “spontaneous demonstration” with rocket propelled grenade launchers and AK47′s?
    Yeah… poor persecuted you.
    Wanna shut Alex up right quick? Prove your silly god-person is real. Prove ANYTHING you claim about the nature of reality is in any way actually true. Do that, and he’ll be eating his words. But, you can’t, because it isn’t. Case closed.

  14. on 17 Sep 2012 at 9:28 pm 14.Burebista said …

    Castbound

    Evidence for God? I got such a laugh from that. I have never seen, tasted, smelled or touched my femur but I know it is there because I can walk. Same for God and because some nutty Atheists deny the obvious doesn’t obligate us busy individuals from debating irrelevant fools. (If they knew how to debate)

    Don’t atheists remind you of the crazy Muslim’s killing infidels the regime tells us do not hate Americans? Do you feel more liked after 4 years by the Arabs? We are suppose to suppress free speech so we don’t offend these nuts. Nuts being atheists and Muslims.

    No free speech! Respect Mo or die! A very small God they have there. Atheists just have nothing else to do.

    Muslims and Atheists really are very much alike. They want things run their way or else. Muslims are just much more relevant.

  15. on 17 Sep 2012 at 10:00 pm 15.DPK said …

    “Evidence for God? I got such a laugh from that. I have never seen, tasted, smelled or touched my femur but I know it is there because I can walk.”

    Hahahahhahaha… and there you have it ladies and gents. Irrefutable proof that there is a magical god who loves you, answers prayers, intercedes (completely undetectably) in human affairs and wants you to nip the end of your penis, shun pork and shellfish, kill homosexuals, and own slaves… all because Burebista has never felt his femur.
    THAT’s what passes for logic in the deluded mind of the true believer.
    Thanks for making that crystal clear for us Bur… you idiot.
    Seems the puppet circus is back in town.

  16. on 17 Sep 2012 at 10:06 pm 16.Lou(DFW) said …

    13.Burebista said …

    “I have never seen, tasted, smelled or touched my femur but I know it is there because I can walk. Same for God…”

    It’s obviously NOT “Same for God.”

    Just when I thought I would never read any dumber theist comment here, then along comes Burp to prove me wrong.

    How can you possibly be so incredibly dumb? Your analogy is so absurdly, pathetically, stupid. And the stupidity continues with your analogy of atheists and Muslims. It’s no wonder that you believe in an imaginary god, just as the Muslims do.

  17. on 17 Sep 2012 at 11:50 pm 17.Anonymous said …

    Ben, Martin, Burebista, and Xenon — the puppets are back in town.

  18. on 18 Sep 2012 at 8:15 am 18.JustAnObserver said …

    What shows as transparency in truthfulness appears to reflect the magnificence of the Bible. Without condoning the practices that are typical of the misguided societies being portrayed, it provides a level of teaching about human nature not usually present in other writings except for specifically historical accounts. Once understood as a whole, the Bible is what has always been accepted by the majority of those involved. Anything short is a misinterpretation which creates misunderstanding, confusion, and departure from common sense actions in the reality of human experience. In addition to historically, sort of typical of the quite a bit of the writing in a number of the responses here, disrespectful arrogance, that self-condemns the writer, typical of hate-speech and not conducive to good, intelligent, conversational discourse.

  19. on 18 Sep 2012 at 9:17 am 19.freddies_dead said …

    14.Burebista said…

    Castbound

    Evidence for God? I got such a laugh from that.

    A slightly nervous giggle no doubt – nervous because you know full well you have no evidence for God.

    I have never seen, tasted, smelled or touched my femur but I know it is there because I can walk.

    That could be remedied quite easily with the judicious application of a sharp implement. You probably wouldn’t enjoy the experience but hey, you’d learn all about your femur.

    Same for God

    So we can cut you open and find the God bone? No? What a surprise. Not exactly the same is it?

    and because some nutty Atheists deny the obvious

    If God was so fucking obvious no-one would be denying Him you moron.

    doesn’t obligate us busy individuals from debating irrelevant fools.

    You call what you’ve written here debate? How cute, incredibly stupid, but cute.

    (If they knew how to debate)

    Total projection.

  20. on 18 Sep 2012 at 1:54 pm 20.just said …

    I can’t really say I believe in God, but checking out this website has left me with a bad feeling. The people who created this website and condescend to ” idiot Christians” are actually no better then those who they despise. I understand the frustration, but going about it in such a hateful and childish way doesn’t help anyone. Here’s a nice quote from a religious text: “When there are few words in the mouth, idiocy turns into wisdom. We must be able to endure the impulse to speak and let our thoughts ripen.”

    What do you think about that?

  21. on 19 Sep 2012 at 12:40 am 21.Tom said …

    “If God was so fucking obvious no-one would be denying Him you moron.”

    I don’t know about the sexual reference but yes they would Freddie, you are one who denies the obvious.

    We have flat-earthers who deny the obvious. We have Holocaust deniers who deny the obvious. We have deniers that Elvis is dead. We have Atheists who deny the obvious.

    I have no problem with Atheist. I believe all are entitled to their beliefs regardless of how ridiculous as long as they don’t get in my way.

  22. on 20 Sep 2012 at 6:38 pm 22.Right said …

    “What do you think about that?”

    Just:

    I think I agree with a portion of your response. Atheist tend to be so childish and mean spirited because that is part of the belief system. Christians read a Bible. Muslims kill infidels and Atheist participate in childish behavior.

  23. on 20 Sep 2012 at 6:55 pm 23.Lou(DFW) said …

    23.Wrong said …

    “Christians read a Bible.”

    If only that was all they did, then nobody would care. Don’t be so ridiculous.

  24. on 20 Sep 2012 at 10:19 pm 24.Anonymous said …

    Fresh sock-puppets. Yum yum.

  25. on 21 Sep 2012 at 1:40 pm 25.Severin said …

    14 Burebista
    “I have never seen, tasted, smelled or touched my femur but I know it is there because I can walk.”

    You really ARE an idiot!
    You can walk to a morgue, or to a medicine student’s lab, and see, taste, smell or touch A femur.
    That is why you know it is there.

  26. on 21 Sep 2012 at 1:53 pm 26.Severin said …

    14 Burebista
    “I have never seen, tasted, smelled or touched my femur but I know it is there because I can walk.”

    I do admit that Christianity made a small step forward compared to Islam.
    I would not say they did it voluntarily. They did it because civil society strengthened and stopped killings in name of god.
    However, remember Crusade wars? Remember other religious wars? Remember Crystal Night? How Christians “loved” their slaves less than 150 years ago.
    last “auto da fe” was done also less than 140 years ago.
    Christianity showed no less hate and intolerance in near past than Islam is doing today.
    What is the difference?

    Only timing!

    They (Muslims) will probably become less cruel in next hundred years (they also have no slavery today!), but it will not make them less idiots than you are.

  27. on 21 Sep 2012 at 1:59 pm 27.Severin said …

    14 Burebista
    “Don’t atheists remind you of the crazy Muslim’s killing infidels the regime tells us do not hate Americans?”

    They remind me of the crazy Christians who did absolutely the same things very short time ago (legally), and some of them are still doing them (illegally).

  28. on 21 Sep 2012 at 2:11 pm 28.Severin said …

    14 Burebista

    I put wrong quote in my post #26.

    It should be Burebista’s:
    “Don’t atheists remind you of the crazy Muslim’s killing infidels …”, same as in my post #27.

    As I said: they remind me of crazy Christians …(see #26)

  29. on 21 Sep 2012 at 2:21 pm 29.Severin said …

    20 Just
    It seems that Christians can’t be without lying!

    Show us: WHERE in this site AUTHORS undervalue ANY religion?
    In which place they talk about “idiot Christians”?

    Authors are very polite and expect all people, including Christians, to be rational. They are addressing to Christians as to rational beings, which they obviously are not.

    I was very polite when I started posting here some 2 years ago.
    Guess who I learnt to be unkind from!?
    From theists, who started to give me names instead of arguments.
    Their idiocy and arrogance can’t leave a rational being polite for a long time.

    BTW, who answers the prayers of Muslims?

  30. on 21 Sep 2012 at 2:32 pm 30.Severin said …

    22 Right
    “Christians read a Bible. Muslims kill infidels and Atheist participate in childish behavior.”

    Please see my posts #26 and #27.

    Plus, please see this:

    http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=/watch%3Fv%3DpC16v_2S59U

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_George_Tiller

  31. on 21 Sep 2012 at 8:45 pm 31.Truth said …

    It is obvious that Atheism cannot be true; for if it were, it would produce a more humane world, since it values only this life and is not swayed by the foolish beliefs of primitive superstitions and religions. However, the opposite proves to be true. Rather than providing the utopia of idealism, it has produced a body count second to none. With recent documents uncovered for the Maoist and Stalinist regimes, it now seems the high end of estimates of 250 million dead (between 1900-1987) are closer to the mark. The Stalinist Purges produced 61 million dead and Mao’s Cultural Revolution produced 70 million casualties. These murders are all upon their own people! This number does not include the countless dead in their wars of outward aggression waged in the name of the purity of atheism’s world view. China invades its peaceful, but religious neighbor, Tibet; supports N. Korea in its war against its southern neighbor and in its merciless oppression of its own people; and Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge kill up to 6 million with Chinese support. All of these actions done “in the name of the people” to create a better world.

    Mao’s 70 million dead:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao:_The_Unknown_Story

    Stalin’s purges kill 61 million
    http://democraticpeace.wordpress.com/2008/11/30/what-only-35000000-killed-in-20th-century-war/

  32. on 21 Sep 2012 at 9:27 pm 32.Lou(DFW) said …

    31.Truthless said …

    “It is obvious that Atheism cannot be true”

    It’s obvious that we can stop here and completely ignore the rest of your comment because it’s false.

    Atheism isn’t spelled with a capital A, it’s not an “ism” anymore than is “aleprechaunism,” it’s not a belief, it’s not a political party, it’s not “a branch of socialism or liberalism or feminism or a kind of sexual deviation.”

    Come back when you can post comments without lying about “atheism.”

    Oh yes, and don’t forget to bring some evidence for your imaginary god.

  33. on 21 Sep 2012 at 9:29 pm 33.alex said …

    31.Truth said …

    your shit is old. read the fucking blog. you believe in your own shit and yet you come in here for what?

    you think you’re on to some original shit? same with the pascals shit, true scottsman shit, persecuted shit, and other theist bull shit.

    dismissed.

  34. on 22 Sep 2012 at 2:40 am 34.Anonymous said …

    Having lost so many argument lately, and having had their sock-puppets exposed again, we’re witnessing standard delusional theist tactics of changing the subject. It’s just an attempt to avoid having to answer even simply questions such as the one Severin keeps asking.

    Come on believers. Who answers the prayers of Muslims? You all seem so afraid to answer it. Why is that?

  35. on 22 Sep 2012 at 7:03 pm 35.Severin said …

    Truth
    “It is obvious that Atheism cannot be true; for if it were, it would produce a more humane world, …”

    How human? Something like Christian world, in which yesterday good Christians held slaves? In which TODAY good Christians burn people and murder doctors who support abortion? Or, maybe you expect us to start stoning non-virgin brides, as ordered in the Bible? Or to stone our own disobedient children? Or to rip women when some monster-god orders it?

    People who used to burn other people for about a millennium were all Christians.
    Christians slaughtered millions in many religious wars ONLY because they were not Christians.
    I am not saying other religions did not do the same, but there is absolutely no difference between Christianity and other religions regarding monstrous deeds done in name of gods and religions.

    YOU are trying to teach us about human world?!

    Go to Czech republic, or to UK, or to Sweden and try to teach them how to live and in what to believe!

  36. on 22 Sep 2012 at 7:34 pm 36.Severin said …

    Truth
    “Mao’s 70 million dead:”
    “Stalin’s purges kill 61 million”

    Hitler, who declared himself as a Christian: 50 million dead.
    If you don’t believe, see this:
    http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/09/17/list-of-hitler-quotes-in-honor/

    Both Mao and Stalin were (probably) atheists, but never declared their deeds as done IN NAME OF ATHEISM.
    All they did was in name of COMMUNIST IDEOLOGY, which was obviously wrong.
    Besides the ideology, there was also absolute power they wanted to keep at any price; narcissism was also present, like by all dictators, supported by tremendous force.
    proclaimed atheism was the CONSEQUENCE of those totalitarian regimes, NOT the cause!
    They (Stalin, Mao) did not like ANYONE to be worshiped but themselves, including gods.

    Did you ever ask yourself how was it possible that a bunch of atheists, like VERY small groups of people around Lenin and Mao start such enormous political and changes, that finally ended as enormous criminal?
    WHO BROUGHT THEM TO POWER?
    who supported them for decades, before it was too late to make changes?

    ALL three of them, Lenin, Hitler and Mao, were supported by almost entire RELIGIOUS populations of their countries!
    There were less than 1% atheists in all 3 countries of that time, and they, naturally, had absolutely no power, but were persecuted!
    When Mao, Lenin, Hitler came, and promised to hundreds of millions of RELIGIOUS MASSES (no atheists!) to give them LAND, free healing, free schools for their children, “egalite, fraternite, liberte”, like in French revolution (which also collapsed in criminal), they rapidly left their gods and promises of churches for afterlife paradise, and started to support those demagogues who promised them PARADISE NOW, not after dying.

    Atheists were never so stupid to believe empty promises and to bring such monsters to power.

  37. on 22 Sep 2012 at 7:38 pm 37.Severin said …

    Correction:
    … a bunch of atheists, like VERY small groups of people around Lenin and Mao, started such enormous political and social changes …

  38. on 23 Sep 2012 at 6:51 pm 38.Dez said …

    Truth the only results of a man-made religion like Atheism is corruption, racism and brutality. Man as a general rule is evil and the most evil and corrupt seem to ascend to power.

  39. on 23 Sep 2012 at 7:27 pm 39.alex said …

    “…man-made religion like Atheism…”

    correction. atheism is not a religion, just like aClausism, aThorism, and aUnicornism.

    regardless of what you think, atheists don’t follow a single leader or vote as a single liberal block.

    atheists don’t believe in a bullshit god. please, no death warrants, your powerful god will take care of himself.

  40. on 23 Sep 2012 at 8:36 pm 40.Severin said …

    38 Dez
    “Truth the only results of a man-made religion like Atheism is corruption, racism and brutality.”

    Like, for example, in Czech Republic, Sweden, France, …?

    You can not disregard statistics: less theists in a country leads to better: more tolerance, less criminal, less abortion, happier people, …

    There are absolutely no atheists in Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, …
    If absence of atheists makes you happier, why don’t you go there to live?

  41. on 23 Sep 2012 at 10:08 pm 41.DPK said …

    Dez suffers from the inability to think without the crutch of some dogma. He cannot comprehend that atheism is not a “religion” and he does not understand that there is no such thing as a religion that is not “man-made”.
    His comments can be disregarded, since they are clearly the rumblings of a person suffering from a delusion. Also, since they are put forth with absolutely zero evidence to support them, they can be discounted as worthless and empty yapping.

  42. on 23 Sep 2012 at 11:47 pm 42.Lou(DFW) said …

    38.Dizzy said …

    “Man as a general rule is evil and the most evil and corrupt seem to ascend to power.”

    Made in the image of your imaginary god, eh?

  43. on 24 Sep 2012 at 2:35 am 43.Anonymous said …

    38.Dizzy said …

    “Man as a general rule is evil and the most evil and corrupt seem to ascend to power.”

    Considering that religion has long been used to control the masses, what Dizzy is saying is that the most evil and corrupt men are to be found amongst the religious leaders which, in the western world, would be Christians.

    Dizzy’s point about the corruptness of Christian religious leaders is also born out by witnessing how their priests have been using their position of power to rape little boys.

    Who else agrees with our theist Dez who says that Christians are evil and corrupt?

  44. on 02 Oct 2012 at 7:30 am 44.Jesus said …

    People are corrupt..not God. One soon day, all will know the truth. This foooolish website and the authors have a special place in hell reserved for them.

  45. on 02 Oct 2012 at 11:38 am 45.Anonymous said …

    We already know the truth.

    Gods don’t exist and people like you who believe in them are stupid.

  46. on 02 Oct 2012 at 12:06 pm 46.Lou(DFW) said …

    44.Jesus said …

    “People are corrupt..not God.”

    Says the guy pretending to be Jesus.

    “One soon day, all will know the truth.”

    Why is it always some day in the future that religious “truth” will be known?

    For those of us who aren’t deluded, we know the “truth” now.

  47. on 04 Oct 2012 at 11:54 am 47.The messenger said …

    The Bible always speaks of peace and love and how to make up for sins.

  48. on 05 Oct 2012 at 2:24 pm 48.The messenger said …

    on 04 Oct 2012 at 11:54 am 47.The messenger said …
    The Bible always speaks of peace and love and how to make up for sins.

  49. on 18 Oct 2012 at 1:33 am 49.Geetle said …

    Castbound – ‘I have never seen, tasted, smelled or touched my femur but I know it is there because I can walk’

    That post of yours really gave me a belly-laugh ha ha ha. If you have an X-ray you can see your femur; if you cut off your leg you can actually hold your femur. You will have observed, then proven, your femur to exist, to anyone who ever doubted you had a femur.

    Somehow I don’t think you’ll prove the existence of your imaginary sky-pixie so easily.

    You are a real home-schooled retard aren’t you.

  50. on 18 Oct 2012 at 4:06 am 50.Jessica said …

    you people are ignorant. when God says people that work on the seventh day shall be put to death it doesn’t mean for YOU to kill them! It means spiritual death decided by God. and thank God for that because you people are cruel and unforgiving, and dont have enough sense to make that kind of decision. God says death (spiritual) is what u deserve but is not necessarily what u will get if u repent=( say sorry)for those that dont understand repent. For those of u who deny his exsistence I dare u to ask Him. Knock and the door shall be opened, or are u afraid of the answer u might get.

  51. on 18 Oct 2012 at 7:14 am 51.Severin said …

    50 Jessica
    “It means spiritual death decided by God.”

    Why are you lying?

    I’we read the Bible more than once and I saw there, at no place, anything about “spiritual death”.
    Instructions are clear and detailed (see Bible):
    - Non-virgin bride will be taken to her father’s threshold, then stoned
    - Disobedient son will be stoned by the community
    - A man working on Sabbath will be stoned by the community
    - Etc, etc,

    NO “spiritual deaths”!

    What makes YOU think god thought something else when he said stoning?
    What makes YOU the relevant interpreter of god’s words? Who authorized you to explain god’s words to us?
    If the Bible IS the word of god, I trust what I read.
    I do not trust YOU.
    Because you are obviously lying to justify god’s bestial deeds.

    Is “ripping pregnant women open” also something “spiritual”?

  52. on 27 Oct 2012 at 6:35 pm 52.Dylan said …

    may I start off by saying that I can’t stand religion.

    You’re right! things in the bible are repulse. it is easy to not believe any of it. But for some reason I can’t let go of it. It has been revealed truth for me. I have been delivered by God’s grace from my life of opiate addiction. I am in no way trying to “convert” people. that is not what I believe. I have received something. I am no better than anyone because of what God has given me. I still am constantly working on my lust struggle.

    I AM IN NO WAY HOLY. I AM JUST LIKE YOU! SHOOT I MAY EVEN HAVE MORE CRAP IN MY LIFE. BUT I KNOW HAVING MY EYES SET ON THE FREEDOM GOD PROVIDES PROVIDES JOY EVEN WHEN I DON’T SEE IT.

    We are all screwed up people weather you want to believe it or not. I understand all the hurt we have in our lives. “RELIGIOUS PEOPLE AND CHRISTIANS HAVE SCREWED UP THIS WORLD!” We can spread hate more apparently than others. I understand that. That’s why I want to spread a different message:

    There is a day where everything in this world will be made right. We will be made right. there will be no more hurt, no more “RELIGION” and no more segregations of people. There will only be Love that Jesus has shown. we will all live in joy and freedom. We will not be consumed by all the the pain of death, divorce, addiction, loneliness, rejection, heat break, fear, failure. We won’t have to live with a mask in fear of people knowing the true us.

    There is a day that everything will be made right. Even though we as human’s deny God, he still loves us and continues to peruse us in order to make the world right.

    You are all my family….I don’t care what you say about Our savior. It’s not about believing the facts from 2000 years ago, it’s about God redeeming you NOW! that’s the joy in this! God works in our lives now! and I don’t say this to condemn, I say this to spread hope!! I have a lying drug addict boyfriend/son/brother who was sick of the hurt I had caused in my own life and in the lives of everybody I loved. I was sick of trying to handle everything on my own, because I couldn’t. I feared death every freaking day of my life. I was scared one day my liver would fail and I’d never wake up. I couldn’t sleep. I don’t deserve any of this freedom that I have received. I don’t know why God has freed me because I felt like the worst of the dirtiest people. but you I am free of it all.

    I share this not to try and make you feel bad for me, but to give hope!! that’s the hope in this, I am not defined anymore by the crap in my life. God saves us. And this free gift is available to anybody!! I don’t care what you’ve done! even if you don’t accept the gift, even if you hate me for me sharing this, you’re my brothers and sisters and I love you all! seriously! if God has allowed this lustful guy who hated God into his kingdom and is changing him, then there is no reason for him to not share the same kind of grace and love he has given.

  53. on 27 Oct 2012 at 9:01 pm 53.alex said …

    Dylan, this is a fucking atheist site! What makes you think your bullshit is gonna work here? All atheist can convert in an instant and some do but most don’t because religion is such incredible bullshit.

    You think your bullshit heaven/hell is proper motivation? We debate endlessly about your bullshit proof, but it is all so simple, at least for me. Regenerate the motherfucking limb! Hell, you can even do it by magic, I don’t care. Put the shit on Youtube and I will publicly accept Christ as my Savior.

    Oh, I’m sincere as shit. I’ll give my bullshit soul to the devil. Hell, he can have it right now, no strings attached.

  54. on 27 Oct 2012 at 10:06 pm 54.Anonymous said …

    Dylan, if freedom to you means believing in things that are not real, then that is your personal choice.

    If you think it sounds more cool to have “a personal relationship” with an imaginary friend then to say you are religious, go for it. It’s your life.

    If you found that you needed to relieve yourself of the responsibility for breaking your addiction by kidding yourself that a magic man in the sky was helping you, then you are just robbing yourself of the knowledge that you were always capable of doing so. Perhaps it was a way for you to excuse your previous lack of success. Whatever.

    If you think you are being humble by attributing your success to a bronze age storm god, then feel free to keep telling yourself that you’re a failure, even though you are not.

    If you think that you are giving us hope by asking us to take up backward thinking superstitious ideas though. Then you’re a fucking idiot.

  55. on 27 Oct 2012 at 10:20 pm 55.Anonymous said …

    Oh, and Dylan, if you think that people hate you – then maybe you should see a therapist and seek an understanding as to why you think perfect strangers would dislike you to that extent.

    It’s beyond me but it does seem if Christians delight in having a persecution complex. That doesn’t sound healthy to me but if that’s what you need in order to keep your faith, then please keep it to yourself.

  56. on 27 Oct 2012 at 10:36 pm 56.Asher said …

    Dylan,

    Very wise of you to follow the only hope we have as human beings. Not the DNC, the GOP or the UN. Let me apologize for the vile names and attacks the tolerant atheist here throw at you. Understand they have no hope, they are blind and quite frustrated.

    Most atheist here have a very limited education and have great difficulty expressing themselves with class.

    I enjoy the testimony of believers who have been transformed. Thanks for sharing. God Bless.

  57. on 27 Oct 2012 at 10:46 pm 57.Anonymous said …

    Asher, one of Hor’s sock puppets, makes his usual post with complete with insults, taunts, and jibes.

    What he doesn’t do, is provide evidence for the existence of his imaginary god. At the end of the day, all Hor has is his kindergarten style of dealing with people who tell him that his best friend isn’t real.

  58. on 28 Oct 2012 at 3:10 pm 58.Lou(DFW) said …

    56.Asshole, another Hor sock puppet who suddenly appeared after we dismantled the others, said …

    “Let me apologize for the vile names and attacks the tolerant atheist here throw at you.”

    Why don’t you apologize for the theists here who NEVER, EVER provide evidence for their imaginary god?

    “Understand they have no hope, they are blind and quite frustrated.”

    That’s right, we have no hope that you will ever provide evidence for your imaginary god, and it’s frustrating to continually refute your lies about atheists.

    “Most atheist here have a very limited education and have great difficulty expressing themselves with class.”

    Liar, you know no such thing.

  59. on 28 Oct 2012 at 3:34 pm 59.Lou(DFW) said …

    56.Asshole said …

    “Most atheist here have a very limited education and have great difficulty expressing themselves with class.”

    Fuck-off. Was that clear enough for you?

  60. on 24 Nov 2012 at 2:10 pm 60.For my saviour said …

    I serve an awesome god all the evidence is right in front of me. Before our first child was born the ob.gyn made a statement I have never forgotten he said that it is a miracle in itself that in 9 short months that what starts as an embryo forms organs,brain,nerves,cells, a brain,fingers toes,eyes you get the picture and almost always perfectly.I guess if you cant look into the eyes of a child and see god.if god was small enough to understand,he would not be large enough to serve he loves you. His ways are not our ways.there are things that are truly above human intelect.faith is described as things believed in that can’t be seen.

  61. on 24 Nov 2012 at 5:36 pm 61.Anonymous said …

    If by your definition of faith you mean belief in things absent or despite evidence, then yes, that is the definition of faith that is advocated by religion. No argument there.

    However, that anyone would think that was a viable way to approach a post bronze-age education, is a perfect example of how the USA is setting itself up as the laughing stock of the developed world.

    Tell us, fms, why do you think it’s a virtue to believe stuff that couldn’t possibly be true?

  62. on 24 Nov 2012 at 6:08 pm 62.Lou(DFW) said …

    60.For my saviour [sic] said …

    “a miracle in itself that in 9 short months that what starts as an embryo forms organs,brain,nerves,cells, a brain,fingers toes,eyes you get the picture…”

    But you won’t accept that evolution accomplishes the same thing in billions of years?

    “…and almost always perfectly.”

    Almost always? So much for your “awesome god.”

    “there are things that are truly above human intelect.”

    What things?

    “faith is described as things believed in that can’t be seen.”

    No, it isn’t. Faith, in the context of this discussion, is belief that is not based on proof.

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