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Christianity &Islam &Judaism Thomas on 23 Aug 2012 12:43 am

The insanity of religion – Billy Graham talks about prayer

In this article Billy Graham talks about God hearing our prayers. Billy says:

The reason we know God hears our prayers and uses them to accomplish his purposes is because he has promised it — and God cannot lie. The Bible says, “This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. And … we know that we have what we asked of him” (1 John 5:14-15).

God cannot lie? This is easy for God, because he is someone who never, ever speaks. The only place where God might be construed to speak is through the Bible. The Bible is quite clear that God not only hears prayers but also promises to answer them. Just read the Bible. In Matthew 7:7 Jesus says:

Ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. Or what man of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!

In Matthew 17:20 Jesus says:

For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.

In Matthew 21:21:

I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and it will be done. If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.

There are many, many verses like these. “If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer,” is about as clear and direct as you can get. What could be clearer than that?

And then we look at amputees. They can pray all day, in every possible way. They can have their friends pray. They can arrange for giant prayer circles. They can try laying on of hands. Nothing. Ever. Happens. Amputated legs never spontaneously regenerate through prayer.

Billy Graham, what do you make of this? Your God is lying.

If you are an intelligent person you can see what is happening. This article will help clarify your understanding: Why is the question “Why won’t God heal amputees?” so important?

Note that in his article Billy has to hedge. He has to do this because there are many, many prayers that God fails to answer even though he promises to in the Bible. Here is Billy’s hedge:

Does this mean God always answers our prayers the way we wish he would? We see only part of the picture; God sees the whole, and he knows what is best for us (and for others). Sometimes this is hard for us to accept.

So… sometimes God has to let 10 million kids starve, or 200,000 people die in a tsunami. Oh well!

Understand the truth – God is imaginary. Start your exploration here: GodIsImaginary.com

306 Responses to “The insanity of religion – Billy Graham talks about prayer”

  1. on 23 Aug 2012 at 1:57 pm 1.BrianE said …

    If god were real, and this is how he actually operated, he would have a lot of explaining to do to all of us postmortem. How would a god expect humans to behave in a world where he sometimes intervenes, sometimes doesn’t, and you have no freakin’ clue when he will or won’t.

    In other words, a god that behaves like this creates a world that is exactly the same as a world dictated by chaos.

  2. on 23 Aug 2012 at 2:12 pm 2.Daryl Branson said …

    The Skeptic’s Annotated Bible has this question of whether God lies in the section set aside for exploring the contradictions of the Bible. They found five verses noting that God cannot or does not lie, and six saying he does, so I guess the verdict is: God lies.

    http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/god_lie.html

  3. on 23 Aug 2012 at 4:30 pm 3.gfunk said …

    God sees the whole picture and he clearly knows that answering prayers for a highschool football team make more sense in the grand scheme than healing an amputee or starving children. Hard to swallow indeed.

  4. on 23 Aug 2012 at 4:32 pm 4.DPK said …

    Aside from the fact, that god, being omniscient, ALREADY KNOWS exactly what will happen… he can’t change his mind in response to your prayer because that would invalidate his foreknowledge.
    If god knows that next week those 200,000 people will die in a tsunami (indeed, he not only knows it will happen… he caused it to happen because he is the cause of everything, and nothing happens except in accordance with his divine plan), then you can pray until your knees bleed… he is powerless to do anything about it. Plus, since you acknowledge that god is perfect and knows better than you what is best… why would anyone who believes this be so presumptuous as to ask god to change his mind?
    I mean, if god doesn’t want your kid to die of cancer, ever think he maybe just wouldn’t have given him cancer in the first place? Why would you pray to god to save him? If god wanted him saved, he’ll be saved, if god wants him dead, he’ll die. God can’t, shouldn’t, change his mind, based on human requests…. right?

  5. on 23 Aug 2012 at 11:49 pm 5.Mitch said …

    Well communicated by Billy Graham. An incredible man who has served God so faithfully.

  6. on 24 Aug 2012 at 12:13 am 6.Slapnuts McGee said …

    Shut up Mitch. You’re an idiot.

  7. on 24 Aug 2012 at 1:17 am 7.Lou(DFW) said …

    4.Mitch said …

    “Well communicated by Billy Graham. An incredible man who has served God so faithfully.”

    Let’s hope for him that he picked the real god.

    But of course, the only thing he served was a delusion. And he’s just another xtian apologist who makes excuses for his imaginary god.

  8. on 24 Aug 2012 at 2:57 am 8.DPK said …

    ““Well communicated by Billy Graham. An incredible man who has served God so faithfully.”

    Why does god need a man to “serve him”?
    Just curious, since none of the theists want to actual challenge the actual content presented in the topic, other than with mindless platitudes… well, let’s at least talk about the platitudes then.
    Why would an all powerful god need the likes of Billy Graham to “serve him” and to make excuses for him? And why does god allow so many “faithful servants” to dispense conflicting messages about who he is, what he wants us to do, and how to please him?

  9. on 24 Aug 2012 at 3:07 am 9.Xenon said …

    6. Lou

    7. DPK

    Right on cue again. They always agree and pat one another on the rear.

  10. on 24 Aug 2012 at 3:23 am 10.Anonymous said …

    Lou predicted that another one of Hor’s sock-puppets would make an appearance, and there was Xenon parroting back the argument just as he does when posting as any other of his sock-puppets

    Lou, you make clearer and more accurate predictions than the bible. Are you a god?

    Regarding this subject. Does any theist really, honestly believe the “yes”, “no”, or “wait” line? It covers every eventually, it’s an obvious excuse. Are xtians really that stupid to believe those lines, or do they just believe stupid things?

  11. on 24 Aug 2012 at 4:13 am 11.Anonymous said …

    “Are xtians really that stupid to believe those lines, or do they just believe stupid things?”

    After reading 8 xenon, you really have to ask?
    Ever notice they NEVER actually reply to any question or challenge presented… Ever?

  12. on 24 Aug 2012 at 11:14 am 12.Lou(DFW) said …

    After a long absence and after I wrote to Asher “Run away now for the next sock-puppet.”

    http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=2383#comment-39508

    8.Xenonsense suddenly appears and said

    “Right on cue again. They always agree and pat one another on the rear.”

    Is lying part of your nature or do you only do it here?

    Show us where either one of us complimented the other as you described. Unless you do, then you are nothing but a pathetic liar.

  13. on 24 Aug 2012 at 12:05 pm 13.Scourge said …

    Billy Graham is a charlatan and con man. He has enriched himself fabulously at the expense of the weak and foolish. He is one of the most disgusting figures of the 20th and 21st century.

  14. on 24 Aug 2012 at 7:05 pm 14.A said …

    Xenon

    Good catch. We need to get them to call themselves Mutt and Jeff. :)

  15. on 24 Aug 2012 at 7:23 pm 15.Lou(DFW) said …

    13.Astrophysicist said …

    “Good catch,” other me. In ASS’S mind, lying to make a point is a “good catch.”

    “We need to get them to call themselves Mutt and Jeff.”

    We need to get you to answer to the lies you post here, but you NEVER, EVER do – coward.

  16. on 24 Aug 2012 at 8:30 pm 16.DPK said …

    I am going to pray to Jesus really hard right now that he gives Astrophysicist a pair of balls which will give him enough testerone to gather the courage to actually start answering questions and challenges in an intellectually honest manner and stop lying.

    Well, this will show if prayer works or not, huh?

  17. on 24 Aug 2012 at 9:17 pm 17.Severin said …

    They all have skin like soles, and A’s skin is like clumps.

    Pachyderms.
    No shame at all.

  18. on 24 Aug 2012 at 9:31 pm 18.Right said …

    Atheism is a Mental Illness, a cry for attention.

    By bwinwright

    Atheism is a mental illness because it is nothing more than a cry for attention. The truth is atheism is a false idea because it is based on the false premise that orderliness does not require intelligent direction.

    Every argument with an atheist ends with this point. They can not overcome this one point, no matter how hard they try. I sometimes like visiting the James Randi Educational Foundation website just to duel with atheists. The JREF website is absolutely full of atheists from America, Canada, the UK, and other countries.

    Most of these atheists are extremely intelligent people, highly educated, and passionate about being an atheist, denying the existence of God, and viciously ridiculing folks like me who challenge their false belief.

    In reality, most of these people, claiming to be atheists, are really simply protesting against organized religion. I can understand their feelings of resentment and hostility towards organized religion because organized religion has been responsible for so much pain and suffering for so long.

    However, when they deny the existence of the intelligence necessary to produce the order all around us in plain view, I have to challenge this false belief. Sometimes their arrogance and vicious sarcasm makes you want to scream, but I find dueling with atheists has made me a more patient, accepting, and loving person. It forces you to work on your ability to be patient in the face of real ugliness.

    It’s a lot like the old priest counselling the young priest in the movie The Exorcist. He told him the Devil would really try to make him so angry he would lose his cool. Therefore, the old priest advised the young priest to be patient, accepting, and calm in the face of the Devil’s vicious ugliness.

    Atheists like to resort to their superior understanding of evolution and natural selection to explain how orderliness was established. They scoff at the notion that highly sophisticated, enormously complex systems and organisms could have possibly required any intelligent direction from some supreme being or intelligent designer. Please.

    I ask them to give me a single example of anything, outside of what they call nature, that came into being without intelligent direction. Of course, they can not. Everything manufactured by man required intelligent direction, right? Of course.

    They all believe that nature just happened by luck, by some totally mindless and random action of billions and billions of particles, travelling at high speeds, colliding together over billions and billions of years, and there you have it…NATURE.

    They ask, “Well if there is an intelligent being responsible for the universe, nature, and everything else, then where did it originate? Who or what produced this God of yours?

    Of course, I don’t know all the answers. Most believe this intelligence we call God has always been here. But this is not the argument, is it? When you have them against the ropes, pounding on them real good, they try to change the argument. I just keep going back to my strength, the one thing I do know is that ORDER REQUIRES INTELLIGENT DIRECTION. It is really nothing more than common sense.

    This is the key to holding your own with even the most intelligent, well educated atheist. This key point really pisses them off because they simply can’t figure out how to overcome it. Therefore, Intelligent Design is the only reasonable explanation for Nature, not some intelligence-free, mindless form of evolution.

    Where this Intelligent Designer came from, how it originated, I don’t know. But again, all you need to know to establish the fact that atheism is a false idea is to know that ORDER REQUIRES INTELLIGENT DIRECTION.

    So, if you find yourself in a duel with an atheist, you can not lose. Just remain calm and stick to your guns. Generally, if you simply hold their feet to the fire and stick to this one point, the atheist will resort to name calling and quit first. It’s like throwing holy water on Satan. It’s fun!

  19. on 24 Aug 2012 at 9:36 pm 19.Severin said …

    A,
    you miserable worm, what are you still doing here after all your miserable “plops”?

    Mr. Bean is, compared to you, a man of integrity and honesty, and you represent his bad caricature.

    Who answers the prayers of Muslims?

  20. on 24 Aug 2012 at 9:40 pm 20.Severin said …

    17 Right
    “Atheism is a mental illness because it is nothing more than a cry for attention.”

    Can you kindly inform us why are YOU here?

    After you do that, please provide some evidences that there is a god.

  21. on 24 Aug 2012 at 9:46 pm 21.Severin said …

    17 Right
    “Atheism is a mental illness because it is nothing more than a cry for attention.”

    Can you kindly inform us why are YOU here?
    Why do you give a shit whether or not we are atheists?

    After you do that, please provide some evidences that there is a god.

    Who answers the prayers of Muslims?

  22. on 24 Aug 2012 at 9:52 pm 22.Severin said …

    17 Right
    “Where this Intelligent Designer came from, how it originated, I don’t know.”

    Fair enough!
    However, I never claim anything I know nothing about it.
    How strange that you DO!

    When some idiot comes and says: I do not know anything about … (something), but I claim it works the way I say it works, we call it (in my native language, and this is direct translation): man/lady is SHITTING.

  23. on 24 Aug 2012 at 10:37 pm 23.DPK said …

    “They ask, “Well if there is an intelligent being responsible for the universe, nature, and everything else, then where did it originate? Who or what produced this God of yours?

    Of course, I don’t know all the answers. Most believe this intelligence we call God has always been here. But this is not the argument, is it?”

    Well, it certainly is, because you have made it so. You said, “ORDER REQUIRES INTELLIGENT DIRECTION” yet your god was supposedly created without direction.
    The only argument that can be dismissed more easily than one presented with no evidence is one that violates its own premise. Why do you accept that god was not “designed” but you cannot accept that the universe was not “designed”. You are operating on a dual standard… and a contradictory one at that.
    Next, even if, for the sake of argument, one assumes that the order in the universe required a “director”… how do you necessarily get to a “god” from there? If you are postulating ideas with zero evidence, than any idea is as good as any other. Then specifically, lay out how you then get from the unsupported idea of “god” to the god of the moment that others here claim loves them, reads their thoughts, wants them to stone homosexuals and adulterers to death, hates pork and foreskins and will banish you to eternal torment for the crime of not believing in him. How do you get from “order in the universe” to a personal god and an eternal life after this one ends? Many questions… but you opened the door.

  24. on 25 Aug 2012 at 12:29 pm 24.Curmudgeon said …

    “I just keep going back to my strength, the one thing I do know is that ORDER REQUIRES INTELLIGENT DIRECTION. It is really nothing more than common sense.”

    Right you are right. In order to deny this one must be blind or sick in some manner. It sounds like the same atheists who frequent the JREF website come here.

  25. on 25 Aug 2012 at 5:35 pm 25.MrQ said …

    The Cur

    ORDER REQUIRES INTELLIGENT DIRECTION…….In order to deny this one must be blind or sick in some manner.

    If that’s true, then it would be easy for you to defend your position on the existence of a god. But, somehow, you ALWAYS FAIL to defend your position. Threads end in silence and you call that victory? Pretty lame, if you ask MrQ.

    In summary: A good xtian always learns that it’s best to just believe without any investigation of the evidence and facts. It’s called FAITH. Xtianity teaches you what to believe, not how to think rationally.

  26. on 26 Aug 2012 at 12:55 am 26.Lou(DFW) said …

    24.Curmudgeon said …

    “I just keep going back to my strength, the one thing I do know is that ORDER REQUIRES INTELLIGENT DIRECTION. It is really nothing more than common sense.”

    “Right you are right. In order to deny this one must be blind or sick in some manner. It sounds like the same atheists who frequent the JREF website come here.”

    Except that what you claim can be demonstrable proven to be an outright lie.

    You are a despicable fraud.

  27. on 26 Aug 2012 at 9:55 am 27.Anonymous said …

    Mr Q has it spot on. Once again we see xtians with a post hoc
    sound bite based on nothing but a desperation to be relevant. But, seriously, intelligent design? Did no one tell you that only morons believe that shit. Curmudgeon is a troll, so he’s just saying it to bait people into his game. But you others? Go back to school and get an education please. You’re embarrassing yourself.

  28. on 27 Aug 2012 at 1:50 am 28.Curmudgeon said …

    “But, somehow, you ALWAYS FAIL to defend your position.”

    No, my position is defended, valid and strong. You would never accept it, but that is because you are unreasonable, biased and blind. I will make an appeal to all Christians as to the validity of God’s existence. I bet they accept the same evidence I accept.

  29. on 27 Aug 2012 at 2:22 am 29.Lou(DFW) said …

    28.Crum said …

    “No, my position is defended, valid and strong. You would never accept it, but that is because you are unreasonable, biased and blind.”

    HILARIOUS! Excuses, excuses – coward.

    “I will make an appeal to all Christians as to the validity of God’s existence.”

    So what? While you do that, I will make an appeal to all children as to the validity of the tooth fairy’s existence.

    “I bet they accept the same evidence I accept.”

    EXACTLY! That’s why theists are defined as deluded. And I bet all children accept the same evidence for the tooth fairy. But wait! According to 40YA-H the tooth fairy must exist because it would be an “absurdity” to think that all children who believe in the tooth fairy are deluded.

  30. on 27 Aug 2012 at 2:55 am 30.Anonymous said …

    “I will make an appeal to all Christians as to the validity of God’s existence”

    yeah, yeah, yeah.

    Just like you were going to produce evidence but ran away instead?

    Just like you said you were done posting here, but came back when you ran out of sock-puppets?

    You’re all talk, and not very intelligent talk at that.

    *IF* you had something you’d present it. But you don’t. The furthest you ever get is to talk about is how you’d present something but… etc etc etc.

    You’re a troll and fraud.

  31. on 27 Aug 2012 at 12:50 pm 31.MrQ said …

    Cur

    I bet they accept the same evidence I accept.

    Such as Noah’s Ark? 6000 year old Earth? Problem is nobody knows what evidence you accept.

    Another failure of epic proportions on your part. Hey, Cur, did you know that the Catholic church, Ken Miller, and Francis Collins all consider the Theory of Evolution to be rock solid science? Does that mean that you do too?

  32. on 03 Sep 2012 at 8:32 am 32.s0l0m0n said …

    EVOLUTION is a ((((HOAX)))).

  33. on 03 Sep 2012 at 12:23 pm 33.MrQ said …

    solomon
    That’s a pretty compelling statement. I am convinced!!!

    Wonder why the Cur couldn’t come up with that one?

  34. on 04 Sep 2012 at 12:51 am 34.s0l0m0n said …

    MrQ,
    What about this….
    Evolution is absolutely not possible without the existence of the first design of things or creations.
    So creation is undisputed.

  35. on 04 Sep 2012 at 12:58 am 35.s0l0m0n said …

    DPK,
    To answer your confusions….
    God exists on his own,theres no beginning and no end.God is not the same as anything that exists or caught in your imagination. In other words God is practically = (((NOTHING))).

  36. on 04 Sep 2012 at 1:28 am 36.alex said …

    “Evolution is absolutely not possible without the existence of the first design of things or creations.
    So creation is undisputed.”

    okay, so you agree allah is the creator? no? which of the thousands of bullshit gods?

    try a creator that doesn’t give a shit about a miniscule earth that doesn’t even register in the vastness. whether evolution is true or not, the time frame is inconsequential in the age of the universe. of course, you idiots believe in the 10,000 year old universe. then you must claim that your bullshit god created the star light in transit so that we may see them here on earth. same bullshit god that created the dinosaur fossils.

  37. on 04 Sep 2012 at 3:01 am 37.MrQ said …

    Solomon,
    How about I provide you with some clues from a Baptist inspired website that proves otherwise? Would you be happy with that?
    Check biologos.org
    The originator of the site is Francis Collins. Is that a good starting point, Mr Solomon?

    Could you clarify something so that I have some idea of whom I am communicating with: Do you believe the planet Earth to be less than, say, 15,000 years old? Or is it more than 4 billion years years old?

    Thanks Solomon.

  38. on 04 Sep 2012 at 3:39 am 38.Anonymous said …

    Solomon, apparently does not understand the meaning of the weird undisputed. Maybe this accounts for his brain-dead post.

    However, he was correct in one point. His god, not that we know which of that thousands of candidates he imagines is real, is precisely nothing.

    Now, Solomon, enough of the grade-school philosophy. Present evidence that this god exists. Demonstrate that your god is real and all the others are false. Hint. Ignorance, something you have shown a lot of, is not evidence.

  39. on 04 Sep 2012 at 6:18 am 39.DPK said …

    on 04 Sep 2012 at 12:58 am 35.s0l0m0n said …
    DPK,
    To answer your confusions….
    God exists on his own,theres no beginning and no end.God is not the same as anything that exists or caught in your imagination. In other words God is practically = (((NOTHING))).

    Well gee, thanks for clearing that up for me there, genius. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Um, btw… Which god specifically are you talking about?

  40. on 04 Sep 2012 at 6:38 am 40.s0l0m0n said …

    I’am talking about the true God.Not the pagan religion’s God nor the christian God.

  41. on 04 Sep 2012 at 6:47 am 41.s0l0m0n said …

    alex,
    I did’nt mention anything regarding the universe is 10,000 years old. How could you imply that I believe that is so?
    Points to ponder…
    God have made the housefly fly,
    Then God could make horses fly too.

  42. on 04 Sep 2012 at 7:11 am 42.s0l0m0n said …

    Anonymous,

    There’s ample of evidence that this God exists.If this God did’nt exists it does’nt make sense if the complex universe or your own self could be designed or build. And this God is true coz all of Gods revelations have been proven true,consistent and can’t be refuted.

  43. on 04 Sep 2012 at 11:38 am 43.Anonymous said …

    Once again someone claims there is evidence but won’t show it and only gives circular arguments. We’ve seen this exact line before of the true god etc. Curious that Solomon won’t name his god. Coward.

    Conclusion. Another nut case, another troll, another uneducated ignoramus, not worth the time of day.

  44. on 04 Sep 2012 at 11:53 am 44.alex said …

    “I did’nt mention anything regarding the universe is 10,000 years old. How could you imply that I believe that is so?”

    oh, it’s not the biblical god? which one is it? you sound like an expert. what are the basis for your ponderous points?

    none? then pagan gods should be good enough for you. ooops, i forget, you need that salvation shit only jesus offers.

    talk is cheap. just <alt><f4>

  45. on 04 Sep 2012 at 1:57 pm 45.DPK said …

    “I’am talking about the true God.Not the pagan religion’s God nor the christian God.”

    Must be the flying spaghetti monster then.

    “And this God is true coz all of Gods revelations have been proven true,consistent and can’t be refuted.”

    Really? What revelations might these be? Since you have discounted the christian god, now all the christians think you are a nut job too… because they were 100% with you until you said Jesus isn’t the real god… now you are obviously crazy. Funny how that works, huh?
    D

  46. on 04 Sep 2012 at 2:15 pm 46.Anonymous said …

    Posters like Solomon make things easy for us. Once someone starts with “the universe is soooo complex that it must have been designed and created by an even more complex creator that wasn’t designed or created” it’s apparent that you are dealing with someone who isn’t thinking clearly, if at all.

  47. on 04 Sep 2012 at 5:15 pm 47.Lou(DFW) said …

    41.s0l0m0n said …

    “There’s ample of evidence that this God exists.”

    Unless you’re one of the resident sock-puppets, then try to be honest – post your evidence or admit that you don’t have any.

  48. on 04 Sep 2012 at 7:14 pm 48.DPK said …

    I think it’s hilarious that when a certifiable nut case like solomon shows up and spouts the EXACT same crazy ass claims that the christian theists do… but states instead that the god he claims is absolutely undeniable and irrefutable is not the christian god… all of them stay away and leave him hanging out to dry. How funny is that?

    What about it Curm, et al? Solomon seems to be making the same claims you do, only he claims it’s a different god and yours is bullshit. Is he crazy?

    Now, when the irony sinks in and you recognize why YOU think he is crazy, THEN you will understand exactly why WE think YOU are crazy. But, you won;t get it will you? No, you will simply stay away for a while hiding your head in the sand while muttering “but they just don’t understand….”

    hahaha…. kind of poetic justice

  49. on 04 Sep 2012 at 9:10 pm 49.Lou(DFW) said …

    47.DPK said …

    “…all of them stay away and leave him hanging out to dry.”

    It goes without saying that they’re dishonest, disingenuous, and dishonorable – just like their religion.

  50. on 04 Sep 2012 at 10:10 pm 50.alex said …

    you atheists just don’t get it, do you?

    allah, jesus, ra, zeus, huitzilopochtli, and budda are all the same god. no wait…

  51. on 05 Sep 2012 at 1:13 am 51.s0l0m0n said …

    Anonymous,
    Do you expect God to appear in front of your eyes.God is not your slave to do so. Even if God appear in front of your nose, you might not notice his presence or might not recognise him. Did’nt I said God is equivalent to ((((NOTHING)))). Why are you so dumb to understand.

  52. on 05 Sep 2012 at 1:23 am 52.DPK said …

    What is the practical difference between a god who is equivalent to nothing, and a god who is literally nothing?
    Answer: nothing.

  53. on 05 Sep 2012 at 1:25 am 53.s0l0m0n said …

    Anonymous,

    If you think the Universe is not complex enough, try to make a blob of clay walks on its belly. Here’s a very ‘simple’ exercise for you.
    Atheists will inherit ((((HELL)))).

  54. on 05 Sep 2012 at 1:27 am 54.s0l0m0n said …

    DPK,
    ((((NOTHING)))) is also an entity but you are so dumb to understand.

  55. on 05 Sep 2012 at 1:36 am 55.s0l0m0n said …

    HIII…..HOO….ALL ATHEISTS..
    THERES (((HELL)))!!
    If you doubt….just gaze at the Sun.
    Get back to God.
    I’am not trying to be popular here.
    I’am just delivering truth.

  56. on 05 Sep 2012 at 1:40 am 56.MrQ said …

    Solomon sez: Get back to god

    Which one would you recommend?

  57. on 05 Sep 2012 at 2:28 am 57.Lou(DFW) said …

    46.Lou(DFW) said …

    “Unless you’re one of the resident sock-puppets, then try to be honest – post your evidence or admit that you don’t have any.”

    Surprise – he’s dishonest, just as the rest of them are.

  58. on 05 Sep 2012 at 2:36 am 58.s0l0m0n said …

    Lou(DFW),

    Don’t try to rant regarding honest or dishonest.
    There ain’t a trace of honesty on Godless fools.

  59. on 05 Sep 2012 at 2:40 am 59.Lou(DFW) said …

    50.s0l0m0n said …

    “Do you expect God to appear in front of your eyes.God is not your slave to do so.”

    My creator is my parents. But they not only created me, they loved and cared about me. They made me the most important thing in their lives. They did infinitely more for me than did some imaginary god. And they never threatened me to eternal damnation for not worshiping them. They never murdered children and babies. They never had any desire to flood the earth.

  60. on 05 Sep 2012 at 3:12 am 60.DPK said …

    “((((NOTHING)))) is also an entity but you are so dumb to understand.”

    I think you need to stop ranting meaningless platitudes and look up the definition of “nothing”. Anyway, we all enjoy your posts. You do more to illustrate the insanity of your belief systems than anything any atheist here can do. That is why all your fellow theists have left you flapping in the wind.

  61. on 05 Sep 2012 at 3:36 am 61.s0l0m0n said …

    Lou(DFW),

    You’re one confuse dude.Your parents are not your creator. They’re just instruments to create you. God is your creator.God does not care only for you. God cared for anything & everything all the time. It’s just the human that is ungrateful to what God have done.God does’nt want anything from you all. He just want you all to be a thankful subject just by worshipping him.Is that too much to ask for?

  62. on 05 Sep 2012 at 3:41 am 62.s0l0m0n said …

    DPK,

    I’am not ranting rubbish…
    The essence of (((NOTHING))) is not limited to the definition of your lousy dictionary.

  63. on 05 Sep 2012 at 3:42 am 63.Anonymous said …

    Solomon isn’t here to convince us that his god exists, he’s here to try to convince himself.

    Note the typical backpedaling arguments. Variations on a theme of “you wouldn’t accept my (non-existent) evidence” and “god does what he wants” (as long as it doesn’t involve being present).

    See how the so-called believer sets up his own argument so he doesn’t have to actually consider it. Somehow these people can state specific things that their god won’t do but completely miss that this is just a childish game of “well, I so could too fly if I wanted…I just don’t want to”. Yeah, right.

    These morons sit around in church coffee shops trying to reassure each other that “the evidence is there”. None of them know what it is. None of them dare ask the others what it is in case they have to concede it doesn’t exist. Solomon is presenting to us a long, drawn-out, Monty Python skit a la Curmudgeon and his never-ending excuses. The difference is that Monty Python tried to portray their loonies to be as purposefully and woefully stupid as p1ossible.

    Has Solomon, our 1atest troll, told us the name of this god? No, he hasn’t.

    Has Solomon, our latest troll, told us his religion? No, he hasn’t.

    Has Solomon, our latest troll, explained how he knows that all the other gods are false but his (imaginary) one isn’t? No, he hasn’t.

    Has Solomon, our latest troll, provided any evidence of any kind whatsoever? No, he hasn’t.

    Has Solomon, out latest troll, provided even a passing resemblance to an argument? No, he hasn’t.

    Has Solomon, our latest troll, answered any questions at all? No, he hasn’t.

    Folks. He’s a troll and quite likely an imbecile and a fake.

  64. on 05 Sep 2012 at 4:55 am 64.Severin said …

    59 Solomon
    “God does not care only for you.”

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/alex978/1016152029/

  65. on 05 Sep 2012 at 4:59 am 65.DPK said …

    Rage on Solomon!
    I, for one, find him entertaining. Still wondering about his use of multiple parenthesis. I wonder if god told him to use those? As if enclosing words in triple parenthese imparts some mystical meaning… Like now (((NOTHING))) magically means something different than “nothing”.

  66. on 05 Sep 2012 at 4:59 am 66.Severin said …

    59 Solomon
    “He just want you all to be a thankful subject just by worshipping him.Is that too much to ask for?”

    Yes, it is.

    If you prove there is a god who makes innocent children suffering, I will immediately start believing in him (her? it?).

    Then I will shit on him (her? it?).

  67. on 05 Sep 2012 at 6:28 am 67.s0l0m0n said …

    Atheists folks,

    Forget about all your rants.
    Who create the first design of things?
    I bet all those dishonest hearts out there dare to answer.

  68. on 05 Sep 2012 at 10:07 am 68.Lou(DFW) said …

    65.s0l0m0n said …

    “Who create the first design of things?
    I bet all those dishonest hearts out there dare to answer.”

    Dare to answer?! It’s easy – there’s no evidence of any “who” that was the “first design of things.” We don’t require an imaginary god to explain natural events.

    Now please provide your direct evidence for your imaginary god or STFU.

  69. on 05 Sep 2012 at 10:14 am 69.Lou(DFW) said …

    60.s0l0m0n said …

    “I’am not ranting rubbish…”

    Yes, you are. I also wonder if English is your first language.

    “The essence of (((NOTHING))) is not limited to the definition of your lousy dictionary.”

    The the essence of your “argument” is obviously not limited to reality, rationality, or logic. Redefinition of common words and ideas is a sure sign of an indefensible position, if not psychological issues. In other words, you’re a nut.

  70. on 05 Sep 2012 at 10:18 am 70.Lou(DFW) said …

    59.s0l0m0n said …

    “He just want you all to be a thankful subject just by worshipping him.Is that too much to ask for?”

    Yes. But if the god who allegedly created me actually showed some evidence that he exists other than through the rants of a nut like you, then I might worship him.

    Oh, and I noticed that you completely ignore the questions of why a god allows the suffering of people who worship him.

  71. on 05 Sep 2012 at 10:28 am 71.freddies_dead said …

    Wow, s0l0m0n is a total nutbag.

    Hey s0l, why don’t you try answering your own question? Remember to present the evidence for whichever ‘god’ you claim to believe in.

  72. on 05 Sep 2012 at 10:34 am 72.Anonymous said …

    Solomon is more than a nutbag, he’s a fraud. He has no intention of answering his own questions.

  73. on 05 Sep 2012 at 11:01 am 73.Lou(DFW) said …

    70.Anonymous said …

    “Solomon is more than a nutbag, he’s a fraud. He has no intention of answering his own questions.”

    All theists on this blog are frauds.

  74. on 05 Sep 2012 at 12:35 pm 74.Anonymous said …

    “All theists on this blog are frauds.”

    And those that are not, or at least not on purpose, are told by Hor and his sock-puppets not to answer any questions and are sent packing that way.

  75. on 05 Sep 2012 at 1:10 pm 75.MrQ said …

    Solomon sez:
    (a) God does’nt want anything from you all.
    (b) He just want you all to be a thankful subject just by worshipping him.

    I think I’ll take option (a).
    Obviously, you have chosen option (b).
    There, we’re all happy now. It’s kind of like a game of Solomon says (apologies to fans of Simon says).

  76. on 05 Sep 2012 at 3:53 pm 76.DPK said …

    “God does’nt [sic] want anything from you all.”

    “He just want[s] you all to be a thankful subject just by worshipping [sic] him.”

    Which is it?
    And you does a being so powerful as to be able to create the entire universe simply by his will need little old me to worship him? If he requires worship, he certainly isn’t perfect, or omnipotent, is he? Sounds rather insecure and neurotic, not to mention narcissistic. But what do you expect from a being who is made entirely of nothing, or rather, (((NOTHING))).

    Solomon… get back on your meds. Even the crazy ass theists on here want nothing to do with you.
    I’ll bet Solomon is actually 40yr off his lithium.

  77. on 05 Sep 2012 at 6:37 pm 77.s0l0m0n said …

    “Dare to answer?! It’s easy – there’s no evidence of any “who” that was the “first design of things.” We don’t require an imaginary god to explain natural events.”Lou(DFW)

    Why there are only 5 fingers on one hand? Why not 6 or 7 or none at all? Why is it always consistent & repeated.Does that shows its the product of design and mass produced. You all atheists are running away from truth. ((((HELL)))) is awaiting you.

  78. on 05 Sep 2012 at 7:37 pm 78.Lou(DFW) said …

    76.s0l0m0n said …

    But he DID NOT provide any direct for his imaginary god.

    If we used your “logic,” then we can completely ignore animals as evidence. If we only consider that water always freezes and thaws at the same temperature, then we can only conclude that’s because it was designed by god to do that. Simple, eh?

    “You all atheists are running away from truth.”

    No, actually, we are not. We have asked you to present evidence for your imaginary god, but you haven’t.

    “((((HELL)))) is awaiting you.”

    Please provide your evidence for hell.

  79. on 05 Sep 2012 at 8:40 pm 79.DPK said …

    “Why there are only 5 fingers on one hand? Why not 6 or 7 or none at all? ”

    THIS is your evidence for a god? You’re an idiot. If we were born with 6 fingers, you;d be asking “why are there 6, and not 5. or 4?” You are like the puddle marveling at how perfectly the hole in which it lives fits it’s shape. Clearly, that hole in the ground must have been specifically designed by an intelligence specifically for that puddle… right?

    Solomon, we have heard from some crazy, stupid theists here… but you get the crown. BTW… since you reject the christian god, most of the theists here think YOU are the one destined for ((((HELL))))… what if they are right, and you are wrong? How do you know? hahahaha…

  80. on 05 Sep 2012 at 8:50 pm 80.Scourge said …

    #76 s0l0m0n Why is it that a salt (NaCl) crystal always forms a cube? Why not a dodecahedron? Why is it the sun is red when it sets and not blue? Why is it that if a fat Christian and a thin Muslim each jump off a tall building at the same time they will both splatter on the ground below at the same time? Answer those questions and you will be able to answer the question about the number of fingers on a human hand. Although I would guess you might be running with a polydactyl crowd, you will arrive at the same answer.

  81. on 05 Sep 2012 at 9:32 pm 81.Lou(DFW) said …

    76.s0l0m0n said …

    “Why is it always consistent & repeated.Does that shows its the product of design and mass produced.”

    Why is there one horn on a rhino?

    Why are there two horns on a steer?

    Why are rams horns curved?

    Why do deer antlers have a different number of points?

    Why did dinosaurs have one, two, three or more horns? Why did they go extinct, was god’s design a poor one?

    Your god doesn’t seem at all consistent, nor is he a very good designer.

  82. on 05 Sep 2012 at 10:13 pm 82.alex said …

    “.Does that shows its the product of design and mass produced.”

    You’re a fucking moron, probably a mooslim or not. Afraid to admit in the hope that xtian morons would jump in to help you, but to no avail.

    What the fuck does gazing at the sun do? Don’t you know that if you fly too high on your wax wings, the sun will melt them and you’ll fall to your death? Oops, wrong bullshit. Wait, doesn’t the kookran say something about some magical horse bullshit?

    What? You’re not a mooslim? Then who is your god?

  83. on 06 Sep 2012 at 1:08 am 83.s0l0m0n said …

    Wha….ka…ka…ka….
    Indeed my post have sparked a raging response from unbelievers. Thats a good sign.With constant coaching I believe the atheists will convert….
    By the way I will respond to all your comments God willing.

  84. on 06 Sep 2012 at 1:28 am 84.alex said …

    who yor god, s0l?

  85. on 06 Sep 2012 at 1:41 am 85.Anonymous said …

    Solomon, what your post has sparked is the renationalisation that you are a little child of 8 or 9 years old, with too much time on your hands.

    So, seeing as you are neither willing nor capable of of answering questions beyond what is on MTV right now, kindly do fuck off but take your meds and do work on your anger management. You’re going to end up in serious trouble with life if you can’t curtail that need of yours to incite rage in others.

  86. on 06 Sep 2012 at 2:43 am 86.Lou(DFW) said …

    82.s0l0m0n said …

    “Wha….ka…ka…ka….
    Indeed my post have sparked a raging response from unbelievers.”

    Yes, like shooting fish in a barrel – we can’t miss the opportunity.

    “By the way I will respond to all your comments God willing.”

    Translation – I will never respond, and in a few days we will never hear from you again.

  87. on 06 Sep 2012 at 3:24 am 87.s0l0m0n said …

    Scourge,

    You are wasting my time to answer your chicken feed stuffs.
    God’s knowledge is incomparable to science.

  88. on 06 Sep 2012 at 7:26 am 88.s0l0m0n said …

    alex ,
    You can learn a lot by gazing at the Sun.
    That’s a close replica of ((((HELL)))).

    And the magical horse ain’t no bullshit.
    It’s very real.
    Did’nt I say..

    God have made the housefly fly,
    Then God could make horses fly too.

    Why can’t you sense a connection in the parable?
    Indeed you’re a confused dude.
    You are booking ((((HELL)))).

  89. on 06 Sep 2012 at 7:44 am 89.s0l0m0n said …

    Lou(DFW)wrote

    Why is there one horn on a rhino?
    Why are there two horns on a steer?…..bla bla bla..

    Lou,

    Why do you ask those silly questions?
    God is the best of the best designers.
    Have you heard of varieties?
    God purposely create variaties so that human will not be bored with a single choice. Imagine if you have to swallow mackerel for life.

  90. on 06 Sep 2012 at 8:24 am 90.Lou(DFW) said …

    88.s0l0m0n said …

    “Why do you ask those silly questions?”

    LOL! Because your assertions are silly!

    I notice that you didn’t answer why god’s designs go extinct.

    “God purposely create variaties so that human will not be bored with a single choice. Imagine if you have to swallow mackerel for life.”

    Yea, kinda like sleeping with the same woman for life.

    On the other hand, there are millions of starving children who would love some mackerel. But, according to you, that millions of children starve and some don’t is part of god’s plan for putting some variety in life. Good for them. I wouldn’t want them to get bored with eating mackerel everyday.

  91. on 06 Sep 2012 at 8:32 am 91.s0l0m0n said …

    Lou(DFW) ,

    You’re clearly twisting the argument.
    Are you out of ideas?
    That’s not a gentlemens way.
    I don’t want to elaborate.

  92. on 06 Sep 2012 at 9:08 am 92.s0l0m0n said …

    Lou(DFW),

    If dinosaur still exists, they might be in huge numbers and may consume most of the foods on land or sea. More childrens will starved.That might be one reason why God extinct them.

  93. on 06 Sep 2012 at 12:30 pm 93.MrQ said …

    Solomon
    “If dinosaur still exists, they might be in huge numbers and may consume most of the foods on land or sea. More childrens will starved.”

    Couldn’t we eat the dinosaurs? Would be a HUGE source of protein. Might take care of ALL of the starving people. Flying horses would be difficult to catch, considering their elusiveness and speed. Dinosaurs, on the other hand, would be slow moving easily beheaded targets.

  94. on 06 Sep 2012 at 12:49 pm 94.Lou(DFW) said …

    90.s0l0m0n said …

    “Lou(DFW) ,

    You’re clearly twisting the argument.
    Are you out of ideas?”

    LOL! I’m not presenting “ideas.” I’m asking you to present evidence for your idiotic claims. Rather than do that, it’s YOU who are “twisting the argument” by insinuating that I’m “out of ideas.”

  95. on 06 Sep 2012 at 12:57 pm 95.Lou(DFW) said …

    91.s0l0m0n said …

    “If dinosaur still exists, they might be in huge numbers and may consume most of the foods on land or sea. More childrens will starved.”

    Oh, I get it! Instead of simply not creating them in the first place, or limiting their reproductive rates, or providing enough food for them, he kills them all? Apparently he made a mistake in creating them?

    And that also explains why millions of children starve to death? So millions more can live? God, in his infinite wisdom, allows children to be born (because of HIS design), who don’t have food (because of HIS design), but he then murders them by starvation so that other children won’t starve? Is that your claim, too?

    “That might be one reason why God extinct them.”

    In other words, you don’t have any evidence, only guesses? Or did god tell you this?

  96. on 06 Sep 2012 at 2:39 pm 96.s0l0m0n said …

    Lou(DFW),

    You Questioned.
    I Answer.
    Fair enough.

    I said…”That might be one reason why God extinct them”.
    Do you understand the meaning of the word ‘might’.
    Whatever brings about the extinction must have a reason.In creating them in the first place also, God might have some other reasons.Your little disdain brains may never know.
    You are just twisting the arguments again.

  97. on 06 Sep 2012 at 4:46 pm 97.Anonymous said …

    Lou and others, do you really not recognize the “style” of this particular troll?

  98. on 06 Sep 2012 at 5:53 pm 98.Severin said …

    Atheiest,
    Why don’t you people just ignore that idiot?

    That one is even more stupid than Cur, Hor, Ben, A(ss)…

    I imagine he is feeding his poor empty ego by showing his “pearls” and your responses to some “public”, while proudly explaining them how he is “dribbling” you.

    His posts alone, without any comments from you, are good job for atheism.

    Let him drown in his own shit.

  99. on 06 Sep 2012 at 10:18 pm 99.DPK said …

    “Atheiest,
    Why don’t you people just ignore that idiot?”

    Because it is way more fun making him make an utter fool of himself, even while he actually thinks he is being clever.

    “That one is even more stupid than Cur, Hor, Ben, A(ss)… ”

    Of course he is… that is why even those idiots won’t step up to support him. It’s just fun watching him come up with these ridiculous, absurd, responses. Funny how they all ultimately get around to us burning in hell… er excuse me, I meant (((HELL))).

  100. on 06 Sep 2012 at 10:53 pm 100.alex said …

    if my flesh burns off in hell and regenerates and burns off over and over again, wouldn’t i get used to it after the first, say, 300 years. i guess, my punishment would be eternal boredom? hey, how’s that any different that being in heaven floating around for eternity. also, wouldn’t you run out of virgins, since the horn dogs would dewarranty them? how do i know they’re horn dogs? coz, them virgins is the main motivation?

  101. on 06 Sep 2012 at 10:58 pm 101.alex said …

    “And the magical horse ain’t no bullshit.”

    so you are a muslim! congrats, you silenced those xtian infidels. welcome, my brother. i’m wrong and please consider me converted.

    please advise me on how to proceed. i’m standing by awaiting your wise words.

  102. on 07 Sep 2012 at 12:38 am 102.s0l0m0n said …

    MrQ,

    “Couldn’t we eat the dinosaurs?”

    Before you ask try to swallow an elephant first.
    Whaa….ka…ka…ka…you’re funny.

  103. on 07 Sep 2012 at 2:41 am 103.MrQ said …

    Solomon,
    “Before you ask try to swallow an elephant first”
    Do you have knives in the country where you live? Abattoirs?

    Let me ask you if Christians will be joining me in ? Mormons included? Buddhists as well? Everyone not aligned with prophet Mo and god Allah?

    What happens to me if I partake in a “Draw Mo Day” event? Does the punishment worsen?

  104. on 07 Sep 2012 at 2:45 am 104.MrQ said …

    “Let me ask you if Christians will be joining me in (((HELL))) ?”

    I added the pointy parentheses to put more emphasis on my message. Ooops. Sorry.

  105. on 07 Sep 2012 at 2:47 am 105.MrQ said …

    Mr moderator.
    I find it extremely annoying that everything I write is moderated.
    WTF gives?

  106. on 07 Sep 2012 at 4:39 am 106.Severin said …

    I understand the poor guy now!
    He really has problems!

    He is eating beef by swallowing cows.

  107. on 07 Sep 2012 at 11:54 am 107.s0l0m0n said …

    MrQ,

    For your info, Christians will be with you side by side on the march to ((((HELL)))).

  108. on 07 Sep 2012 at 12:08 pm 108.s0l0m0n said …

    Points to ponder;

    Provide fossil proofs of the gradual transition from ape to men that must have existed in abundance if evolution was true.

  109. on 07 Sep 2012 at 12:09 pm 109.s0l0m0n said …

    Who create the 1st. design of things.

  110. on 07 Sep 2012 at 12:37 pm 110.MrQ said …

    Solomon
    “For your info, Christians will be with you side by side on the march to ((((HELL))))”

    Oh shit. You mean eventually I must hang out with Curmudgeon/ Horatio/ Xenon/ Castbound and all the other xtians who once posted on this blog but have now vanished? They all seemed so happy and content when someone professed a belief in a deity.

    Seriously, Solomon, I got some (((REALLY))) bad news for you. You will be joining us all in (((HELL))) because the chances that you picked the right god and are living the right life for passage to the promised land are (((ZERO))) percent. Just ask any of the other numerous believers in the world. The (((ONLY))) solution is to enjoy the life you have and not worry about the BS myths which people tend to cling to.

    Question for you though: Is your vest ticking?

  111. on 07 Sep 2012 at 3:02 pm 111.fol de rol said …

    well we have an individual here who is quite clearly intellectually or educationally challenged

    s0l0m0n – perhaps you should withdraw from this exchange for now and consider whether you want to subject yourself to ridicule and embarrassment

    Is this a demonstration of the type of people easily indoctrinated by theists?

  112. on 07 Sep 2012 at 4:49 pm 112.s0l0m0n said …

    fol de rol,

    Try challenge me first before campaigning me to chicken out.

  113. on 07 Sep 2012 at 5:16 pm 113.Lou(DFW) said …

    111.s0l0m0n said …

    “Try challenge me first before campaigning me to chicken out.”

    You did chicken-out. You don’t provide any evidence for your imaginary god.

  114. on 07 Sep 2012 at 5:45 pm 114.Lou(DFW) said …

    111.s0l0m0n said …

    “Try challenge me first before campaigning me to chicken out.”

    Why? It’s obvious that you are challenged.

  115. on 08 Sep 2012 at 12:42 am 115.s0l0m0n said …

    Lou(DFW),

    Answer me.
    Who create the 1st. design of things?
    I bet you can’t answer.
    ((((LIARS))))

  116. on 08 Sep 2012 at 12:45 am 116.s0l0m0n said …

    No MrQ,

    I will be in the paradise of ))))HEAVEN((((.
    ))))WOW(((( it’s worth believing….

  117. on 08 Sep 2012 at 1:12 am 117.DPK said …

    What “design of things” are you talking about, specifically? The big bang? Quantum mechanics? Atomic structure? Or are you talking about living things? Be specific please.. But while you are at it, tell us.. If your contention is that everything “had” to be designed, then who designed god?
    If god did not need a designer, why do you think anything else does?

  118. on 08 Sep 2012 at 2:18 am 118.alex said …

    s0l0m0n is a troll. google the asshole.

  119. on 08 Sep 2012 at 2:29 am 119.alex said …

    s0l0m0n, those your porn sites that showed up on the search?

  120. on 08 Sep 2012 at 3:58 am 120.s0l0m0n said …

    DPK,

    The design of everything and anything.
    Did’nt I say God is equivalent to nothing.
    Therefore there’s no need for a God designer.

  121. on 08 Sep 2012 at 4:04 am 121.s0l0m0n said …

    Provide fossil proofs of the gradual transition from ape to men that must have existed in abundance if evolution was true.

    I bet the atheists can’t answer.
    So evolution and the atheists beliefs is a ((((HOAX))))

  122. on 08 Sep 2012 at 4:28 am 122.DPK said …

    “The design of everything and anything.”

    Everything and anything includes gods. Nice try at double talk, but no sale.

    “Did’nt I say God is equivalent to nothing.”

    What you say and what you prove are 2 different things. If you claim that god made the universe, then god is quite obviously not “nothing”.

    “Therefore there’s no need for a God designer.”

    I can see you were “taught” logic and critical thinking by some very crazy people. Now, you claim everything required a designer… how can “nothing” design “something”? You violate your own premise, and are a silly idiot.

    No one is going to get sucked into a debate about evolution… it doesn’t matter. Evolution is a scientific fact… if you choose to be ignorant and disbelieve it.. fine. Nobody cares. Even if the fact of evolution was tomorrow proven to be completely, totally false, so what? That still wouldn’t prove your god “did it” or that such a thing even exists. Your entire belief system is based on ridiculous assumptions and platitudes. There is no substance to your reasoning, and you have presented zero evidence that ANY of the claims you make are in any way true. You have utter failed. Now go away.

  123. on 08 Sep 2012 at 7:07 am 123.s0l0m0n said …

    God is not anything or everything you ((((SCUM)))).
    God is equivalent to nothing.

  124. on 08 Sep 2012 at 7:23 am 124.fol de rol said …

    Oh well. Seems this cretin doesn’t understand she’s already lost and just looks foolish and stupid. Where have all the theists gone? All a bit quiet on the god botherer front

  125. on 08 Sep 2012 at 11:51 am 125.s0l0m0n said …

    Atheists are stupid lots.
    No…..they are ((((condemn fools)))).

  126. on 08 Sep 2012 at 12:57 pm 126.Anonymous said …

    s0l0m0n posts the same nonsense on other blogs, including the cut and paste, and he’s always about to reveal his god but never does.

    As Alex said, Google is your friend.

  127. on 08 Sep 2012 at 12:59 pm 127.Lou(DFW) said …

    115.s0l0m0n said …

    “Lou(DFW),

    Answer me.
    Who create the 1st. design of things?”

    I don’t know because there is no evidence of a “who” that was the “1st. design of things.”

    “I bet you can’t answer.
    ((((LIARS))))”

    I can and did answer you honestly. It is you who is a liar because you are making a claim without any evidence. I am not making any claim. In a debate, the requirement of evidence rests upon the person making a claim – YOU.

  128. on 08 Sep 2012 at 1:47 pm 128.Lou(DFW) said …

    127.Lou(DFW) said …

    Please allow me to rewrite that last comment so that you may understand it:

    In a debate, the requirement of evidence rests upon the person making a claim –

    ((((YOU)))).

  129. on 08 Sep 2012 at 2:51 pm 129.s0l0m0n said …

    Lou(DFW),

    You are plain fool.
    How come there is no (((WHO))) who create the 1st. design of things.

  130. on 08 Sep 2012 at 3:04 pm 130.DPK said …

    Why have you resorted to name calling? The fact is, you are right, and we are simply agreeing with you.
    You said god is equivalent to nothing.
    Therefore:
    Nothing created the “first design of things”.
    Your words. You are right.
    God is nothing. Doesn’t exist, except in your imagination.

    Nothing “designed” the universe.
    Nothing judges you for your sins.
    Nothing is going to reward you with eternal life.
    Nothing is going to send you to an eternity of torture after you are dead.
    Nothing answers your prayers.
    Nothing demands you worship it.

    Congratulations on admitting what all the other theists here refuse to recognize.

  131. on 08 Sep 2012 at 4:06 pm 131.s0l0m0n said …

    DPK,

    You’re one confuse dude.
    I did’nt say god is nothing.
    I said God is equivalent to nothing.
    But God still exists.

  132. on 08 Sep 2012 at 4:14 pm 132.DPK said …

    I’M confused???

    equivalent:
    equal in value, measure, force, effect, significance, etc.

    You are right god is equal in all measures and effect to nothing. No argument. God indeed exists in the same manner as “nothing” exists… as an idea in your brain.
    Tell me genius… do negative numbers “exist”?
    D

  133. on 08 Sep 2012 at 5:15 pm 133.Lou(DFW) said …

    129.s0l0m0n said …

    “How come there is no (((WHO))) who create the 1st. design of things.”

    ((((((((((((((((((((SIGH)))))))))))))))))))

    That has already been explained here.

    There can’t be a “1st. design of things” without creating the logical fallacy of infinite regression.

    Stop asking the same stupid questions and present your evidence for god or STFU.

  134. on 08 Sep 2012 at 5:28 pm 134.DPK said …

    “Stop asking the same stupid questions and present your evidence for god or STFU.”

    Yes, please… and also, please stop using words if you don’t comprehend what they mean.
    Also, may I suggest you review:
    http://www.ehow.com/how_2057192_use-parentheses-correctly.html

  135. on 08 Sep 2012 at 5:59 pm 135.s0l0m0n said …

    DPK,

    “I’M confused???”

    Glad you admit..

    YES,

    “equivalent:
    equal in value, measure, force, effect, significance, etc.”

    but….
    When something is equivalent to nothing,value, measure, force, effect, significance, etc no longer have an effect.Equivalent to nothing does’nt mean that something does’nt have an essence.

    There’s a difference in nothing that exists and nothing that did’nt exist.

    DPK,

    I advice you to attend the school of thoughts.

    For your chickenfeed question I will reply later God willing.

  136. on 08 Sep 2012 at 8:06 pm 136.Anonymous said …

    Solomon, your statements fall under the descriptive term “making shit up”.

    Unless you can demonstrate that your nonsense is anything other than delusional ramblings, then you’re just embarrassing yourself.

    You’ve posted these imbecilic statements of yours in other places and you always, always, make up an excuse to avoid giving clear and concise answers to any questions. That you seem to think that your constant evasions are in any way clever, significantly answers many questions as to your integrity, honesty, and intentions.

    Considering that the only explanations that anyone comes up with all have elements of your “you can’t test my god, you can’t measure it, detect it, but it’s there” rationalizations it should be obvious why people like you are regarded as idiots and fools.

    You’ve been asked before. Prove it, or STFU.

  137. on 08 Sep 2012 at 8:18 pm 137.DPK said …

    hahahahaha….

    “Equivalent to nothing does’nt mean that something does’nt have an essence.”

    It means exactly that. It is nothing… No – Thing.

    Tell us please… what is the essence of “nothing” and how does it affect events in the physical universe?

    How, please explain, does an entity that is the functional equivalent of “nothing” as you have stated, design a universe? This should be even funnier than watching you make shit up as you go along. Why won’t you answer anyone questions?
    Do negative numbers “exist”?
    What actual evidence do you present to convince us that ANY of the claims you have made are in any way true?

    You’re the most fun of any theist I’ve seen here in a long time. Crazy doesn’t even begin to describe you.

  138. on 09 Sep 2012 at 12:35 pm 138.Lou(DFW) said …

    135.s0l0m0n said …

    “When something is equivalent to nothing,value, measure, force, effect, significance, etc no longer have an effect.Equivalent to nothing does’nt mean that something does’nt have an essence.

    There’s a difference in nothing that exists and nothing that did’nt exist.”

    Now he’s using that old theist ploy of using word-games and semantics in lieu of answering questions about his delusion or evidence for his imaginary god.

  139. on 09 Sep 2012 at 3:16 pm 139.DPK said …

    By definition, if “nothing” exists and has properties, i.e., an “essence”, then it is not in fact, nothing, it is something.

    Word games and non-sensical sound bites aside… is solomon (a curious moniker for someone so decidedly stupid) going to actually present any evidence that the particular god HE claims is real, actually exists? Or, is he just another fart in the wind, unpleasant, but insignificant?

    And what has become of Hor, Ben, and the theists contingent? They are suspiciously silent. How about an opinion from the puppet choir? Solomon says god is the equivalent of nothing… is he right? He also says god is sending all of you christians to hell for picking the wrong god to worship. Could he be right? How do you know? Man, the theists run fast when one of their own breaks ranks, huh? Solomon is 100% certain that he knows the real god…. just like you guys. How does that fit into your world view?

  140. on 10 Sep 2012 at 12:53 am 140.s0l0m0n said …

    MrQ ,
    I miss your comments on 4th Sept 2012: 3.01am,

    I don’t believe the planet Earth to be less than, 15,000 years old? But sure this earth is very very old.Only God knows the exact age of this earth.

  141. on 10 Sep 2012 at 9:16 am 141.s0l0m0n said …

    Lou(DFW),

    Which part of my words are “word-games and semantics” if you’re the man of truth. The problem is that my words are true and you can’t refute my doctrines.

  142. on 10 Sep 2012 at 9:24 am 142.s0l0m0n said …

    “By definition, if “nothing” exists and has properties, i.e., an “essence”, then it is not in fact, nothing, it is something.”

    YES…

    The something is God…
    Whaaa….ka..ka..ka…

  143. on 10 Sep 2012 at 9:31 am 143.freddies_dead said …

    I was right first time. Total. Fucking. Nutbag.

    All we’ve ended up with from all of s0l0m0n’s posts is that God = Nothing – and we already knew that.

  144. on 10 Sep 2012 at 12:35 pm 144.Lou(DFW) said …

    141.s0l0m0n said …

    “Which part of my words are “word-games and semantics” if you’re the man of truth.”

    All “parts.”

  145. on 10 Sep 2012 at 1:14 pm 145.Anonymous said …

    solomon demonstrates why theists don’t answer questions, only ask them.

    If he was to put substance to his points then he’d immediately look like an idiot. This way he looks an even bigger fool but he deludes himself that people can’t “refute his (delusional) doctrines”. 40YA-hole also does this which is probably why people see a similarity in their ramblings.

    In the end Solomon is trying to shift the burden of proof. In order to avoid being drawn into an answer he tells the lie that he will answer when his god is willing. His can’t prove that his god is not imaginary so he makes up his elaborate excuse.

    Watch. He has no reason not to give a direct and clear answer but to answer doesn’t fit in with his agenda of trolling. Remember, he does this on other sites and he also finds excuses not to answer their questions.

    Solomon, tell us which religion and god you worship? Be specific, name names. If it isn’t a mainstream religion then explain why you are right and the billions of others are wrong?

  146. on 10 Sep 2012 at 1:36 pm 146.Severin said …

    Solomon
    “Equivalent to nothing does’nt mean that something does’nt have an essence.”

    It does.
    “Equivalent to nothing” = “nothing”, and no “nothing” can have any other “essence” but NOTHING (no thing, empty set, nothing in there: no substance, no essence, no properties, no characteristics, NOTHING).
    Period.

  147. on 10 Sep 2012 at 1:42 pm 147.Severin said …

    Nice of you that you admitted god was NOTHING (does not exist).

  148. on 10 Sep 2012 at 2:08 pm 148.Severin said …

    Solomon,

    In the first place you have to understand that “nothing” and “equivalent to nothing” are absolutely the same things: NOTHING.

    So, if you give essence to “nothing”, it can’t be “nothing” any longer, it becomes SOMETHING.
    Something MUST have attributes, MUST be observable, measurable, …
    So, if your god has the essence, it is neither “nothing” nor “equivalent of nothing”, it is something.
    However, if you claim that something exists, YOU have to prove it does, not me.
    If I claimed there was Santa, or mermaids, you would ask me to provide evidences for my claims, wouldn’t you?

    DPK (#139) was right, but you are too stupid to understand him.

    You are expected to provide evidences that your “equivalent to nothing with essence” exists (which you will never do).

  149. on 10 Sep 2012 at 2:13 pm 149.Severin said …

    What sort of a dark wall exists in minds of those people, that they can’t pass by, or jump over, but only hit it with their heads?

  150. on 10 Sep 2012 at 2:28 pm 150.Anonymous said …

    Severin, on the wall is writ “as long as I make vague claims and make excuses as to why this can’t be tested, they can’t disprove my shit, therefore it’s real”

    In order to keep up that illusion, they dodge questions and throw out nonsense ones to keep their inquisitors busy. When pinned down they choose to disappear, play the victim card, claim alternate versions of the truth, or declare that your showing the stupidity of their claim is “off topic”. Then they feel justified in demanding that you answer their nonsense question.

    What they don’t do is address your questions or acknowledge your points head on.

  151. on 10 Sep 2012 at 9:57 pm 151.Lou(DFW) said …

    147.Severin said …

    “Nice of you that you admitted god was NOTHING (does not exist).”

    This graph illustrates how god’s power has diminished over time:

    http://tinyurl.com/d8vdhx7

  152. on 10 Sep 2012 at 10:21 pm 152.Anonymous said …

    Nice link.

    It seems that in a few thousands of years, paralleling our ability to test their claims, the Xtian god has gone from a walking, talking, man-about-town to some ethereal being who, conveniently, inhabits some untestable and undetectable environment. What a great example of evolution and adaptation that surely is!

  153. on 10 Sep 2012 at 11:03 pm 153.alex said …

    “This graph illustrates how god’s power…”

    left out:
    1. causes touchdowns
    2. induces orgasms
    3. spares selected doublewides
    ….

  154. on 11 Sep 2012 at 12:47 am 154.s0l0m0n said …

    To all Atheists,

    Whatever you twist, however you twist, you can’t refute my doctrines coz my doctrines were true..
    May respond to all your comments later God willing.

  155. on 11 Sep 2012 at 12:55 am 155.Anonymous said …

    145

    In the end Solomon is trying to shift the burden of proof. In order to avoid being drawn into an answer he tells the lie that he will answer when his god is willing. His can’t prove that his god is not imaginary so he makes up his elaborate excuse.

    No-one has to refute your doctrine. You have to prove it. You can’t, so you won’t. You’re transparent and it’s pointless discussing things with someone as ludicrous and dishonest as yourself.

    If you believe your own shit, which I doubt you do, then please get some help. Really.

  156. on 11 Sep 2012 at 12:56 am 156.alex said …

    sol. bet you wear seatbelts, doncha? dumbfuck, doesn’t believe in his own god.

  157. on 11 Sep 2012 at 1:08 am 157.Anonymous said …

    Invisible Pink Unicorns are beings of great spiritual power. We know this because they are capable of being invisible and pink at the same time. Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can’t see them

    Can Solomon disprove the above? Try, if you dare. If not then by his failed excuse for logic Solomon must accept that the Invisible Pink Unicorn exists. Which it doesn’t. Or does it?

  158. on 11 Sep 2012 at 1:27 am 158.s0l0m0n said …

    For Christians,

    The Bible is the twisted version of truth…

  159. on 11 Sep 2012 at 1:48 am 159.alex said …

    88.s0l0m0n said …

    “And the magical horse ain’t no bullshit.”

    You’re a fucking muslim. we got it. now, go eat some pork chops. yum, yum.

  160. on 11 Sep 2012 at 2:52 am 160.Lou(DFW) said …

    154.s0l0m0n said …

    “May respond to all your comments later God willing.”

    It was…

    83.s0l0m0n said …

    “By the way I will respond to all your comments God willing.”

    Your lame excuse is now even more lame.

  161. on 11 Sep 2012 at 4:16 am 161.s0l0m0n said …

    alex will be thrown into the dungeons of ((((HELL))))

  162. on 11 Sep 2012 at 4:20 am 162.s0l0m0n said …

    I’am not refering the magical horse to the pink unicorn. The real God does not mention any pink unicorns. So the pink unicorns might only be a myth.

  163. on 11 Sep 2012 at 4:23 am 163.s0l0m0n said …

    alex,

    God have made the housefly fly,
    Then God could make horses fly too.

    You cannot refute that.

  164. on 11 Sep 2012 at 9:35 am 164.freddies_dead said …

    154.s0l0m0n said …

    To all Atheists,

    Whatever you twist, however you twist, you can’t refute my doctrines coz my doctrines were true..

    Your doctrine appears to be that God = Nothing. We already know this so there’s nothing to refute.

    May respond to all your comments later God willing.

    I’m guessing God’s never going to be willing. Not really a surprise when He’s nothing.

  165. on 11 Sep 2012 at 9:40 am 165.alex said …

    sol. don’t worry. in a few years, when the oil is gone, your dipshit god will be relegated back to the desert dwelling, camel jockeying, women oppressing, idiots that make up your kind. irrelevant asshole. we get enough shit from the xtians around here without your additional.

  166. on 11 Sep 2012 at 11:48 am 166.Lou(DFW) said …

    163.s0l0m0n said …

    “God have made the housefly fly,
    Then God could make horses fly too.

    You cannot refute that.”

    You are a delusional idiot.

    You cannot refute that.

  167. on 11 Sep 2012 at 1:18 pm 167.DPK said …

    God have made the housefly fly,
    Then God could make horses fly too.

    But curiously, he can’t heal amputated limbs. Why is that?

  168. on 11 Sep 2012 at 1:36 pm 168.Anonymous said …

    “Then God could make horses fly too.“

    At a stroke we see.how feeble Solomon’s god is, which leads us to the fact that we can ignore him and his impotent god.

    According to one variation Poseidon, who can be named and we can read about in books, so it must be true, created Pegasus the winged horse. No could here, so immediately Solomon’s god is second rate at best.

    Further, we can still see the constellation of Pegasus in the northern sky. So, Pegasus is more real than Solomon’s under-achiever of a deity.

    So, Solomon, game over. Now, go away.

  169. on 11 Sep 2012 at 2:02 pm 169.Lou(DFW) said …

    167.DPK said …

    “But curiously, he can’t heal amputated limbs. Why is that?”

    Because he (((COULD))) if he wanted to.

    Such is the operation of a delusional, rationalizing theist mind.

  170. on 11 Sep 2012 at 5:47 pm 170.Lou(DFW) said …

    159.alex said …

    “You’re a fucking muslim. we got it. now, go eat some pork chops. yum, yum.”

    Speaking of xtians and muslims:

    Pat Robertson Advises Man Having Problems With Wife: ‘You Could Become A Muslim And You Could Beat Her’

    http://tinyurl.com/8ddvcwc

  171. on 12 Sep 2012 at 1:07 am 171.s0l0m0n said …

    DPK said …

    “But curiously, he can’t heal amputated limbs. Why is that?”

    He could if he wanted.
    Can’t you see God have heal amputated tail of lizards.

  172. on 12 Sep 2012 at 1:10 am 172.s0l0m0n said …

    To all Atheists,

    I have a very simple formula to all your confusions regarding God=nothing stuffs.

    The solution is…

    God=God

    Whaaaa…ka…ka…ka…

  173. on 12 Sep 2012 at 1:23 am 173.alex said …

    “Can’t you see God have heal amputated tail of lizards.”

    daaaaamn. your god also regenerates cut hair. i take it back. you are da man. now, go feed your camel.

  174. on 12 Sep 2012 at 1:32 am 174.MrQ said …

    Sol,
    As a muslim, are you proud of some of the adherents of your faith who:
    fly airliners into buildings,
    destroy buddhists statues,
    subjugate females,
    commit suicide with explosives,
    are offended by teddy bears named Muhammed,
    etc, etc?

    What a world you live in. Afraid of shadows, afraid of other faiths. You are an insult to intelligent thought, a warrior for ignorance, and a boil on the ass of humanity. Congratulations.
    Come out of the dark ages and try joining the present century.

  175. on 12 Sep 2012 at 1:56 am 175.Anonymous said …

    Folks, you’re wasting you time with the troll.

    Search on Google and you’ll find that solomon just copies his stuff from post to post; even his stupid comments are recycled – like that would take any thought. In that way, he’s as much a coward and fraud as the Curmudgeon persona in that both have been promising things for over a year, but never deliver, and never will.

    Ignore him. He ignores your questions, after all.

  176. on 12 Sep 2012 at 2:57 am 176.s0l0m0n said …

    “He could if he wanted.”
    Oooopss sorry…
    He could if he wanted to.

  177. on 12 Sep 2012 at 3:02 am 177.s0l0m0n said …

    alex,

    “daaaaamn. your god also regenerates cut hair”

    That’s different.
    Hair grows back to unlimited length.
    The tail grows back to its original length and form.

    Whaaaa….ka…ka…ka…

  178. on 12 Sep 2012 at 3:07 am 178.s0l0m0n said …

    Atheists are condemn fools. It’s easy to play around with their retarded thoughts.

  179. on 12 Sep 2012 at 3:20 am 179.Anonymous said …

    Solomon, three zeroes? You are that useless that you need to call yourself a zero three times? Poor baby, no wonder you need an imaginary friend.

    Post 168 consigned your imaginary god to the scrapheap. You don’t have a comeback nor do you have a god. All you have is your stupidity and lies.

  180. on 12 Sep 2012 at 3:47 am 180.s0l0m0n said …

    Anonymous,

    You are a perfect example of the candidate of ((((HELL)))).

  181. on 12 Sep 2012 at 3:56 am 181.Lou(DFW) said …

    176.s0l0m0n said …

    “That’s different.
    Hair grows back to unlimited length.”

    Eyelashes don’t.

  182. on 12 Sep 2012 at 7:10 am 182.Anonymous said …

    Oh, look, someone who has yet to respond to anyone’s actual point is threatening me with something that doesn’t exist. I am so scared I won’t sleep for weeks. Wait, no I’m not. Zero, you’re a loser. Now get lost.

  183. on 12 Sep 2012 at 8:21 am 183.s0l0m0n said …

    Lou(DFW),

    “Eyelashes don’t.”
    emmm..clever..
    hear this..
    Just like your limbs, they don’t you scum.

    Have you try to ‘amputate’ your own eyelashes?

  184. on 12 Sep 2012 at 8:39 am 184.alex said …

    s0l=plonk!

  185. on 13 Sep 2012 at 2:30 am 185.s0l0m0n said …

    The atheists are out of argument…

  186. on 13 Sep 2012 at 2:58 am 186.Lou(DFW) said …

    185.s0l0m0n said …

    “The atheists are out of argument…”

    We haven’t begun to argue. Present your evidence for your imaginary god, then you’ll get your arguments, GOD WILLING – idiot.

  187. on 13 Sep 2012 at 4:36 am 187.s0l0m0n said …

    Refute my doctrines….((((DOUBLE IDIOT))))

  188. on 13 Sep 2012 at 4:40 am 188.s0l0m0n said …

    Truth will definitely win….

  189. on 13 Sep 2012 at 4:43 am 189.s0l0m0n said …

    The Atheists are easily fooled coz they are the condemned lots. (((((HELL)))) is a just place for them.

  190. on 13 Sep 2012 at 4:45 am 190.s0l0m0n said …

    Hi…Ho…all Atheists!!

    ((((REPENT))))

  191. on 13 Sep 2012 at 6:15 am 191.s0l0m0n said …

    The Atheists religion is a ((((FAKE))))

  192. on 13 Sep 2012 at 10:29 am 192.Anonymous said …

    Looks like our triple zero loser is self-destructing. Poor baby. Still, it’s an interesting example of how the theists trolls operate.

    Make claims, refuse to back them up.
    Make claims, ignore questions.
    Make strawman arguments, invent excuses.
    Make childish comments, try to bait a response.
    Make even more childish comments, try harder to get a response.

    By the way, is anyone else laughing themselves silly about being threatened by the punishment of being sent to an imaginary place by an imaginary god from an 8th grader who is making it all up anyway?

  193. on 13 Sep 2012 at 1:13 pm 193.Lou(DFW) said …

    187.s0l0m0n said …

    “Refute my doctrines”

    What doctrines? You haven’t presented any doctrines to refute.

    You haven’t presented evidence against which to present an argument.

    All you do is rant, rave, threaten, and insult.

    ((((THAT))))) is your doctrine – one that is self-refuting.

  194. on 14 Sep 2012 at 12:41 am 194.s0l0m0n said …

    It’s crystal clear the atheists are out of argument.It’s about time to migrate to other sites.

  195. on 14 Sep 2012 at 1:59 am 195.Lou(DFW) said …

    194.s0l0m0n said …

    “It’s crystal clear the atheists are out of argument.It’s about time to migrate to other sites.”

    Coward

    86.Lou(DFW) said …

    82.s0l0m0n said …

    “By the way I will respond to all your comments God willing.”

    Translation – I will never respond, and in a few days we will never hear from you again.

  196. on 14 Sep 2012 at 2:30 am 196.s0l0m0n said …

    “By the way I will respond to all your comments God willing.”

    I guess God is not willing, that’s why I’am reluctant.

    Whaa…..ka…ka…ka…..

    It’s a privilege being a theist…

    Whaaa….ka…ka…ka…

  197. on 14 Sep 2012 at 3:46 am 197.Lou(DFW) said …

    196.s0l0m0n said …

    “I guess God is not willing…”

    LOL! Of course he isn’t – he doesn’t exist.

    “…that’s why I’am reluctant.”

    LOL! Of course you’re reluctant because you don’t have a leg to stand on! Yea, I’d be “reluctant” to defend a delusional belief for which I have absolutely no evidence.

    “Reluctant” – yea, that’s the ticket, “reluctant.”

    Hilarious stuff!

  198. on 14 Sep 2012 at 12:05 pm 198.Anonymous said …

    It was obvious right from the start the Solomon was going to use “god willing” as an excuse to avoid answering questions. Surely, even a believer would have seen his blatant dishonesty and childish intentions?

  199. on 14 Sep 2012 at 1:12 pm 199.Xenon said …

    alex

    Stop pretending to be s0l0m0n. Anyone with half a brain can see who s0l0m0n really is.

  200. on 14 Sep 2012 at 1:45 pm 200.Lou(DFW) said …

    199.Xenonsense said …

    “Stop pretending to be s0l0m0n. Anyone with half a brain can see who s0l0m0n really is.”

    And anyone with half a brain knows that you are always the first to ask “who farted?”

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