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Christianity &Science Johnson on 12 Oct 2008 11:08 pm

Science moment – the double slit experiment

The double slit experiment is very simple and easy to understand, but the results are unexpected because they demonstrate the quantum world. This video provides a nice explanation of the experiment and its permutations:

6 Responses to “Science moment – the double slit experiment”

  1. on 14 Oct 2008 at 7:29 am 1.mattstarrs said …

    Congratulations. You just gave an easy to understand object lesson in how God is able to discriminate between whom he allows to experience the reality of his presence and those he does not permit this privelidge. It helps with understanding these scriptures:

    John 14:15-24 (Today’s New International Version)

    15 “If you love me, keep my commands. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19 Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. 21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. Anyone who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”
    22 Then Judas (not Judas Iscariot) said, “But, Lord, why do you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world?”

    23 Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. 24 Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.

    Matthew 5:8 (Today’s New International Version)
    8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
    for they will see God.

    Matthew 13:11-13 (Today’s New International Version)
    11 He replied, “The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 12 Those who have will be given more, and they will have an abundance. As for those who do not have, even what they have will be taken from them. 13 This is why I speak to them in parables:
    “Though seeing, they do not see;
    though hearing, they do not hear or understand.

    2 Corinthians 3 (Today’s New International Version)
    12 Therefore, since we have such a hope, we are very bold. 13 We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to prevent the Israelites from seeing the end of what was passing away. 14 But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away. 15 Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts. 16 But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate [a] the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

    Of course there are many other scriptures to this effect. The point is that the observer (or the scientist . . . or even you or I) do not decide the particles behavior. But it behaves with regard to our act of observation. In the same way, God behaves in differing ways depending on whom may be observing. That’s why some of us regularly see miracles, and some never will. It’s not just about the mental health, beliefs or philosophical position of the observer. It’s about God’s willingness to reveal Himself.

    The question of God’s willingness to reveal himself is considerably more complex than most people appreciate. He obviously has an enormous interest in revealing himself – hence the incarnation of Christ. Nonetheless he is highly selective about whom he allows to “know” him. The scriptures are loaded with statements about God hiding himelf.

    He does however make (seemingly contrasting)claims to being non-discriminatory about who may lay hold of the privelidge of observing him. It seems that most of us willingly disqualify ourselves because we “hate” the terms and conditions he has laid down.

    Whinge and moan all we want. It won’t help us to observe him, nor will it change the preconditions he has put in place.

    Come on his terms and our lives will be dramatically altered forever.

  2. on 14 Oct 2008 at 9:52 am 2.Hermes said …

    Mattstarrs, thanks for the post. I like a good slice of cheese too. I find it has something to do with this blog post. That’s right. Cheese.

    I’d like to hear your comments on this.

  3. on 19 Oct 2008 at 7:58 pm 3.mattstarrs said …

    “2.Hermes said …
    I’d like to hear your comments on this.

    My pleasure dear Hermes.

    Name calling is the last ditch effort of intellectual exasperation once it is realised that either one does not have the cognitive capacity to fully engage their opponent, or else that the arguments presented are indeed insurmountable.

    I am not sure which of these is your motivation, but the “cheese” label is a better reflection of the state of your argument than the state of mine.

  4. on 19 Oct 2008 at 10:21 pm 4.Hermes said …

    Mattstarrs, you totally missed the mark.

    I’ll make it clear.

    I said cheese. You were right to point out that this had nothing to do with the blog post. That was the point.

    Where you made a mistake was to attribute your own words as having some relevance to the blog post. They did like cheese.

    As for ‘calling you names’, I did not. Why you thought I did I don’t know, but maybe your psyche thought it was justified.

    Shall we continue, shall we stop, or do you want to take the original observation … as an observation? The wheel is in your court.

    I’m on the forums BTW … if these blog posts bore you.

  5. on 21 Oct 2008 at 10:12 am 5.mattstarrs said …

    No, I think you’re ducking for cover. Either that or you are somewhat challenged in your communicative abilities. You see, when you said:
    “I like a good slice of cheese too. I find it has something to do with this blog post. That’s right. Cheese.”
    You make a clear connection between the post and “cheese”, and you even affirm this with the re-iteration “That’s right. Cheese.”
    My assumpton was that you were calling my post “cheesy”. Thank you for clarifying for me that I ought not make such assumptions with your haughty comments.

    Thank you for also pointing out that my point was lost on you, as you tried to express with your “cheese” comment.

    I guess this is the reason that newspaper journalists write at a level eight year olds can understand.

    Clearly you failed to grasp my point as I did yours, for you said:
    “Where you made a mistake was to attribute your own words as having some relevance to the blog post. They did like cheese.”

    So I will try again with really small words of no more than two syllables.

    We try to see. It’s called science. We want to have answers so we can be in control. But when we look things change. Just like in the clip. It’s the same with us and God. We say “I have looked – I saw nothing”. But does that mean we have seen it all? Or is God really in control . . . not us?

  6. on 21 Oct 2008 at 11:06 am 6.Hermes said …

    Be prepared to be insulted, as I’m not going to spend gobs of time in a blog to go over details. If you want nuanced subtleties, join the forum.


    You took my comment on cheese as an insult as opposed to a comparison. That’s your reading, not my intent. You original post was off topic, even with your amazing stretch of a justification. Don’t do something so silly next time and you won’t be called on it.

    As for your last part, it’s nonsense to me. Looking is the point of the slit experiment. It shows that even basic things we are profoundly ignorant of. That’s humility. What you propose is an answer that occurs before you even complete looking. Nothing but religion and unimportant guesstimates work like that. The CERN’s LHC is an attempt to address what we are ignorant of; it is a bigger set of eyes not a guess that looks good enough to stop.

    No matter how often you take out your ‘My God was here’ stamp, you haven’t shown your deity. If you want the non-Christians (including Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and the rest of the 2/3rds of the humans on this planet) to take Christian claims about your god God seriously, you’ve got to show that there’s something there *FIRST* and not assume that your claims are special. Others don’t see your claims as anything more than one among many that they see as equally unsupported (unless they are Hindus about Hindu claims, Buddhists about Buddhist claims, Muslims about Muslim claims… ).

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