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Christianity Johnson on 10 Oct 2008 11:13 am

Prayer at a McCain/Palin rally yesterday: “You, O God, have raised up Senator John McCain and Governor Sarah Palin for such a time as this.”

The absurdity of Christianity was on public display yesterday at a McCain/Palin rally in Bethlehem, PA:

Rage in the Town of Bethlehem

Rage? Why isn’t it love, as Jesus teaches?

Here is an excerpt from the invocation:

O God, we are in a battle that is raging for the soul of this nation. You, O God, have raised up Senator John McCain and Governor Sarah Palin for such a time as this. Help them, O God, to strengthen our economy, to keep our taxes and spending low. . . and grant them the privilege of being elected the next president and vice president.

If God has raised them up, then why aren’t they loving their enemy as Jesus teaches? Why are they spreading lies and racism at all their rallies?

“Help them to strengthen our economy“? Jesus had a very simple economic prescription described in this article:

Matthew 6:19

Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Luke 14:33

Any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple.

Matthew 6:24

No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Money.

Matthew 19:21-24

Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Then Jesus said to his disciples, “I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”

Matthew 19:28-29

Jesus said to them, “I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.

Luke 9:23-25

Then he said to them all: “If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me will save it. What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, and yet lose or forfeit his very self?

Matt 13: 22

The one who received the seed that fell among the thorns is the man who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke it, making it unfruitful.

Hebrews 13:5

Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, “Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you.”

Phil 2:3

Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves.

Acts 2:44-45

All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need.

This seems pretty clear. If you want to follow Jesus you need to “sell your possessions and give to the poor.” You should “Sell your possessions and goods, and give to anyone as he had need.” You should note the “deceitfulness of wealth”. You should, “give up everything”, stop “laying up for yourselves treasures on earth” and stop trying to “serve God and Money”.

In other words, a True Christian has no need for the economy.

If you are praying to God, wouldn’t it make sense to do what God says in the Bible first?

This hypocrisy demonstrates the absurdity of Christianity in America today.

If you are a Christian reading and typing on your computer right now, it would be fascinating to know why you still own a computer. Why haven’t you sold it, as Jesus prescribes?

19 Responses to “Prayer at a McCain/Palin rally yesterday: “You, O God, have raised up Senator John McCain and Governor Sarah Palin for such a time as this.””

  1. on 10 Oct 2008 at 11:41 am 1.Hermes said …

    This cartoon sums it up;

    http://blogs.venturacountystar.com/greenberg/qqxsgFiscalConservative.jpg

  2. on 10 Oct 2008 at 3:13 pm 2.SteveK said …

    “This hypocrisy demonstrates the absurdity of Christianity in America today.”

    This blog demonstrates Johnson’s inability to understand the basic tenents of Christianity, and his ability to tear down beliefs that few actually hold. Johnson is basically arguing with himself/herself.

  3. on 10 Oct 2008 at 3:49 pm 3.godsfavoritecolor said …

    Which of the 500 million+ versions of the basic tenets of Christianity were you referring to?

  4. on 10 Oct 2008 at 4:20 pm 4.something said …

    SteveK, why don’t these 10 verses in the Bible matter?

  5. on 10 Oct 2008 at 4:21 pm 5.SteveK said …

    The basic tenent that Christianity doesn’t claim to believe what Johnson is saying here – “In other words, a True Christian has no need for the economy.”

  6. on 10 Oct 2008 at 4:28 pm 6.SteveK said …

    “SteveK, why don’t these 10 verses in the Bible matter?”

    Huh? Of course they matter, just not the way Johnson thinks.

  7. on 10 Oct 2008 at 4:43 pm 7.godsfavoritecolor said …

    “The basic tenent that Christianity doesn’t claim to believe what Johnson is saying here”
    Who is this “Christianity” who “doesn’t claim to believe”? Is this illogical, ungrammatical, and incomprehensible gobbledygook that you are spewing an indication of your thought processes?

  8. on 10 Oct 2008 at 5:46 pm 8.SteveK said …

    Oh, I get it. Your question is like: who is this “science” who “has proven the big bang”?

  9. on 10 Oct 2008 at 6:05 pm 9.godsfavoritecolor said …

    “Oh, I get it. Your question is like: who is this “science” who “has proven the big bang”?
    That might be like the sloppy Christian way of putting it. A more precise way of talking about the big bang would be to say that scientists have discovered many of the processes that have occurred since a fraction of a second after the big bang.

  10. on 10 Oct 2008 at 6:32 pm 10.SteveK said …

    OK, I agree, there is an imprecise way of saying something and a more precise way. Despite my lack of precision, I thought you would understand what I was saying. When someone says “science has proven the big bang” I generally don’t start correcting their grammar and hurling insults….but that’s just me.

    Here’s a more precise way to say what I said earlier: History shows that Christians en masse, including first century Christians, never understood Jesus to be instructing his followers to sell everything they own and do without an economy.

  11. on 10 Oct 2008 at 7:17 pm 11.something said …

    SteveK, wasn’t Acts 2 written in the first century? Doesn’t it say:

    Acts 2:44-45

    All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need.

    Why do you specifically ignore all 10 verses?

  12. on 10 Oct 2008 at 7:28 pm 12.godsfavoritecolor said …

    There you go again, “History shows that…” Oh, and criticisms of your statements equal hurling insults?
    As to your assertions, might I ask which historians?
    As for Jesus’ instructions, the origin of the books containing them is dated by Bible scholars (Hector Avalos, Bart Ehrman, etc.) to late in the first century if in the first century at all (I don’t remember the exact dates. You can look them up for yourself).
    And since only a small percentage of people in the first century could read, most Christians at that time understood only what they were told.
    Furthermore, the commands of Jesus quoted in the OP are clear. The only reason a Christian would not “understand” what they say is because he is not willing to obey them.

  13. on 10 Oct 2008 at 8:29 pm 13.godsfavoritecolor said …

    SteveK,
    I had only a little time to kill, and I have to go now. I probably won’t be back for several days, if at all. So you win the argument with me by default.

    You have my permission to crow.

  14. on 11 Oct 2008 at 5:00 am 14.nugget said …

    On my perspective, since Jesus, Himself clearly states that He talks in parables. I would have to agree with Steve K on this one. Some of may call this preaching, but since the bible is interpreted by thousands and thousands of people, this allows me to give my interpretation, which is that these verses reflect on a normal human being restrictions to their modern age. For example, a person “lives” for his/her family and house, etc., right? Now, Jesus simply wants you to “live” for the Lord. Therefore, He clarifies that the necessities are to be thrown out in order to fully(100%) serve and worship the Lord, because these restrictions tend to limit us from His glory. That why i think Jesus says this to His people.

    According to godfavoritecolor, people(back then) did not know how to read. Yes, i agree to a certain extent, because simply men or household leaders excluding slaves did know how to read not farely good, but they could. The language “Hebrew” of that era, is not the same as now. The old hebrew language became extinct and was brought back through Greek and Aramaic, so there is no clarification on how difficult or easy it was to learn. So, there is no argument there.

  15. on 12 Oct 2008 at 12:35 am 15.SteveK said …

    I’m not gonna crow, nor did I win anything. It’s not about winning, it’s about what is true. At least that’s what I care about.

  16. on 12 Oct 2008 at 12:45 am 16.Hermes said …

    That’s OK SteveK, I still think in general you’re wrong. Does that help? :)’

  17. on 14 Oct 2008 at 6:29 pm 17.jw said …

    What SteveK says in #2, “beliefs that few actually hold”, is true and since they don’t hold the beliefs are they truely Christians? Probably not. They believe what they want to believe and simply call themselves Christians.

  18. on 14 Oct 2008 at 6:33 pm 18.jw said …

    Be sure to google: Iowa Prayer McCain Rally

  19. on 14 Oct 2008 at 7:52 pm 19.Hermes said …

    JW, if either you or SteveK wish to detail exactly what you think is wrong, you can use your powers of persuasion to make your case. Asserting that Johnson has it all wrong doesn’t address what was written in the blog.

    [End of comments on old threads.]

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