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Christianity Thomas on 12 May 2012 07:59 am

The biggest cross in the world

Why do this?

Branson Cross: World’s Largest Cross Gets Go-Ahead From Missouri Officials

The “God-given vision” started out simply enough: build a 7-foot-tall cross on a mountain and invite people to meditate there with the Creator. Now, 20 years later, the cross will cost $5 million and rise nearly 200 feet once complete, making it the largest cross in the world.

Complete with two elevators, developers promise free admission and an encounter with Jesus at the mammoth, monumental “Branson Cross” in Branson, Missouri.

“An encounter with Jesus”? What does that mean?

41 Responses to “The biggest cross in the world”

  1. on 12 May 2012 at 1:12 pm 1.jlozano713 said …

    a better use of the money would be to feed some starving children.

  2. on 13 May 2012 at 3:46 am 2.Doug Fo said …

    If it is on private land, it is their land and their money to spend.

    Except of course they are very likely to apply for some tax free status, but aside from that;If it is on private land, it is their land and their money to spend.

    Even if the expenditure is foolish and contrary to the seeming message of humility and charity that they are supposed to hold dear.If it is on private land, it is their land and their money to spend.

  3. on 13 May 2012 at 3:49 am 3.Prime said …

    Of course, that leaves open the question posed in the post: “Why do this?”

  4. on 13 May 2012 at 7:16 pm 4.LL said …

    I have discerned the only time atheists care about starving children is when it is someone else’s wealth. When they desire to litigate over a cross on a freeway, a baby in a cradle at Christmas or prayer at a graduation they seem to care little for the starving children.

    I see many Christian groups feeding starving children, where are the atheists? Is it because they have no motivation to feed the hungry or are they waiting on the government?

    Just an observation.

  5. on 13 May 2012 at 7:38 pm 5.Prime said …

    So what?

    Do you know what you never, ever see? Atheist groups dropping five million dollars on a cross that achieves nothing more than proclaiming how deluded an adult human being can be and then pretending its a virtuous, pious, responsible act.

  6. on 13 May 2012 at 7:38 pm 6.Prime said …

    No one cares what you’ve observed. Why not search for what humanist organizations do instead of using idiotic terms like “atheist organizations” that most people don’t identify with?

  7. on 13 May 2012 at 9:04 pm 7.Lou(DFW) said …

    4.LL said …

    “I see many Christian groups feeding starving children, where are the atheists? Is it because they have no motivation to feed the hungry or are they waiting on the government?”

    DAMN STRAIGHT!

    And what about those aleprechaunists?! Where are they? YOU NEVER, EVER hear anything about them donating money to charitable causes.

  8. on 13 May 2012 at 10:55 pm 8.alex said …

    “And what about those aleprechaunists?! Where are they? YOU NEVER, EVER hear anything about them donating money to charitable causes.”

    this is too damn deep. theists will never get this..

  9. on 13 May 2012 at 11:06 pm 9.alex said …

    “When they desire to litigate over a cross on a freeway, a baby in a cradle at Christmas or prayer at a graduation they seem to care little for the starving children.”

    That’s because you think it’s a theist’s Right to plant a fuckin Cross anywhere. Same with Christmas and prayer. Do that shit in private and theists don’t care.

    Take a poll of 100 atheists/theists and ask if they care about a starving black kid and check the results.

    Just an observation. Try opening your mind/eyes.

  10. on 13 May 2012 at 11:33 pm 10.Anonymous said …

    Too bad they couldn’t have taken that money and used it towards a good cause, even if was for their own education. Sadly, they’ve just spent five million dollars to erect a monument to advertise their incredible stupidity.

    Let’s look at Branson, shall we?

    Educational attainment: Well, 17% didn’t even complete high-school, and a further 31% only managed to get that far. So, almost 50% of the residents of this city that thinks a cross to bronze age myth is a good idea, didn’t get past high school. Looking further, 14% managed a bachelors degree and a 1.5% a doctorate.

    So, yes, this cross really is a wonderful example of the ability of religion to get uneducated people to do stupid things.

    http://www.city-data.com/city/Branson-Missouri.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_attainment_in_the_United_States#General_attainment_of_degrees.2Fdiplomas

  11. on 14 May 2012 at 7:15 pm 11.Scott said …

    Anonymous, the Cross is being built by Christians all over the world. So, your phobias regarding Missouri are completely misguided.

    Not to even mention Dean Brown, property owner, is highly educated, a veteran and was President of one of the top insurance companies in the nation. His son Kerry is an attorney.

    If only anonymous could be so accomplished.

  12. on 14 May 2012 at 7:40 pm 12.Lou(DFW) said …

    11.Scott said …

    “Anonymous, the Cross is being built by Christians all over the world.”

    And subsidized by US taxpayers.

  13. on 14 May 2012 at 10:33 pm 13.Prime said …

    11.Scott said …

    “Not to even mention Dean Brown, property owner, is highly educated, a veteran and was President of one of the top insurance companies in the nation. His son Kerry is an attorney.”

    Doesn’t change the fact that he’s an idiot for wasting $5M on a big redneck cross, unless it does.

    Unless it does? Yes. Unless this is a way for him to scheme for lots of people to give him lots and lots and lots of money that he can scrape into his pockets tax-free.

    So… do you think he’s a smart business man preying upon the hopes of religious people to pad his pockets? Or do you think he’s a religious fool? Which makes you feel worse about his big, embarrassing redneck cross?

  14. on 15 May 2012 at 5:17 am 14.god is real said …

    first off we talk about christians but how many christians are imposters? it does talk about that in the bible anyone can say thier a christian and people do sin nobody is perfect at all

    this is how i know hes real
    earth it is at the direct angle to recieve heat from the sun

    people we did not come from monkeys! if so they still wouldnt be here today and you can go out and buy a monkey and i bet in 30 years it would still be a monkey

    a woman carrying a baby is a perfect example how is that possible

    and faith is the key to god

    also bible stands for BasiC instructions before leaving earth

    and you have to come to god for him to meet you
    i know he exist hes been in my life

    and i pray that you find him one day and instead of being on websites on how he isnt real

    look at websites on how he is real and life changing stories where real actual people found god

  15. on 15 May 2012 at 12:01 pm 15.Lou(DFW) said …

    14.god is real said …

    “first off we talk about christians but how many christians are imposters?”

    All of them.

    “this is how i know hes real
    earth it is at the direct angle to recieve heat from the sun”

    If “goddidit,” then the earth can “recieve heat from the sun” at any angle or distance.

    “people we did not come from monkeys!”

    Well, some of us didn’t.

    “if so they still wouldnt be here today and you can go out and buy a monkey and i bet in 30 years it would still be a monkey”

    I bet that we can send you to college and in thirty years you will still think such stupid ideas.

    “a woman carrying a baby is a perfect example how is that possible”

    You don’t accept evolution, but you accept that a mature animal can form in a few years.

    “and faith is the key to god”

    Exactly! Faith is the belief in something for which there is no evidence.

    “also bible stands for BasiC instructions before leaving earth”

    When are you leaving?

    “and you have to come to god for him to meet you
    i know he exist hes been in my life”

    Yes, he’s a “has been.”

    “and i pray that you find him one day and instead of being on websites on how he isnt real”

    Why don’t you pray for something more worthwhile? For example, pray for an amputee to regrow his missing limbs. When that happens, come back and tell us all about it.

    “look at websites on how he is real and life changing stories where real actual people found god”

    Instead of looking at websites to find god, why doesn’t he simply appear to me?

    How are “actual people” different from people, and how do I know that their stories are “real?”

  16. on 15 May 2012 at 8:44 pm 16.Anonymous said …

    14 looks like a troll or a Poe.

  17. on 17 May 2012 at 4:35 pm 17.CALL ON JESUS said …

    The time is near, the lies are great,
    The love is false, and the time is hate,
    I fear the pride,
    has served to hide,
    the wisdom to see,
    what you denied.

    Atheist Professor from Berkeley gets a glimpse of hell
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vj0qKthCgg&sns=em

  18. on 17 May 2012 at 7:14 pm 18.A said …

    “So… do you think he’s a smart business man preying upon the hopes of religious people to pad his pockets? Or do you think he’s a religious fool? Which makes you feel worse about his big, embarrassing redneck cross?”

    I think he did it just to tick off the resident bigot Prime and Anony-Mouse.

    Kudos to Dean!

    What is 5 mil today anyhow? What, an Obama’s vacation?

  19. on 17 May 2012 at 7:20 pm 19.Prime said …

    I’m a bigot now. Awesome. Thanks for outing yourself via your usual projection techniques.

    A, that’s ‘President Obama’ to you too.

  20. on 18 May 2012 at 5:40 am 20.Anonymous said …

    Worse than being called a bigot might be the smell due to all those Red Herrings that were thrown your way.

  21. on 18 May 2012 at 1:00 pm 21.A said …

    Prime

    I only call them as I see it math professor. You label people Red Necks, imply Southerners are ignorant and call Christians derogatory names. I have a sneaky suspicion you are the sock of another bigot who has strangely departed, Observer.

    As a mathematician you should know that equals bigot.

    How is Comrade Obama or Idol Winner? He does deserve an accurate descriptor.

  22. on 18 May 2012 at 2:32 pm 22.Lou(DFW) said …

    18.A said …

    “What is 5 mil today anyhow?”

    It’s a lot of tax deductions that most taxpayers probably would rather not see “spent” on a religious symbol.

  23. on 18 May 2012 at 3:08 pm 23.Prime said …

    21.A said …

    “I only call them as I see it math professor.”

    I think you’re missing a comma here or something. No one cares how you see things. You’re clearly an idiot. That’s not anti-Christian bigotry, by the way, it’s my ability to read the garbage you write and make deductions about your level of intelligence from them.

    “You label people Red Necks, imply Southerners are ignorant”

    Yes, I do call people rednecks. I don’t imply Southerners are ignorant, as I am a Southerner. Since I’m a Southerner, I have some rather privy info on them by the overwhelming experience I get to have with them. They think ignorant-ass things like that President Obama is a socialist, a Kenyan, a Muslim, etc. They also think things like that gay people all die when they’re 40, want to rape kids (the whole Catholic church thing not withstanding), and are an “abomination.” They almost invariably think things like “if you just have Jesus, everything’s okay” while their bodies are rotted with cancer that they gave themselves because they can’t distinguish Oreos from food and believe that there’s no proof that cigarettes cause cancer. I’ve run into every one of those idiotic things, and many more, just in the last month. Why? Ignorant-ass rednecks.

    “[You] call Christians derogatory names.”

    Only when they earn them. I have many close Christian friends, of the thumper sorts, of the Catholic sorts (though not too many of those because the ignorant-ass rednecks think that Catholics are dirty Mary-worshippers whom they lightly persecute, ensuring that there’s only one Catholic church in town, out of more than 1000 (according to Google)), and even of the really crazy Seventh-Day Adventist sorts.

    “I have a sneaky suspicion you are the sock of another bigot who has strangely departed, Observer.”

    Good work, detective. Only you’re wrong.

    “As a mathematician you should know that equals bigot.”

    No. Calling a spade a spade when it’s being particularly spade-like is not bigotry, it’s honesty.

    “How is Comrade Obama or Idol Winner? He does deserve an accurate descriptor.”

    That’s ‘President Obama’ to you.

  24. on 18 May 2012 at 3:56 pm 24.Lou(DFW) said …

    23.Prime said …

    21.ASStrophysicist said …

    “I only call them as I see it math professor.”

    “I think you’re missing a comma here or something.”

    That’s the way they write in Hor’s “Broadway In The Basement.”

  25. on 18 May 2012 at 4:08 pm 25.A said …

    “(the whole Catholic church thing not withstanding), and are an “abomination.”

    That is Catholic Church to you. Well, other than the North has cornered the market on the whole Catholic church thing. Excuses excuses, excuse galore!

    Yes, we know when Comrade Obama is criticized your feathers get ruffled. You are the typical political clone. I detest political ideologues that refuse to think analytically.

    You proved my point with more hate. Bigot.

    Ok Lou(DKNY), I will finally ask. What is a Broadway in the Basement? Just got back from Manhattan and saw Wicked. It was great but never saw the Basement show.

  26. on 18 May 2012 at 4:12 pm 26.A said …

    I got a great laugh out of Primal Instinct’s analysis of Southerners and cigs. I have never seen so many smokers as I witness in Manhattan, but the Southerners are the rubes?!

    Awesome Primal Instinct!

    I see why Comrade is your man. You are as out of touch as he.

  27. on 18 May 2012 at 5:49 pm 27.Prime said …

    Talking to you is like talking to a pigeon.

    There’s a huge difference between there being a lot of smokers visible in an area and there being a lot of smokers in an area and, most importantly, there being a nontrivial number of people in that area that actively deny that there’s proof that cigarettes cause cancer. Some people smoke because they don’t care. Some people smoke because of optimistic bias. It takes a special kind of stupid to smoke because of willful ignorance and science denial, which has been soup d’jour in the South for a good while now, ever since the Fundies got all worked up and going after it.

    I don’t get upset when President Obama (it’s still ‘President Obama’ to you) gets criticized. I frequently do it. I get upset when people just lay out bald-faced lies to do it, like that he’s Kenyan, or that he’s a “Comrade,” or some other ignorance that just isn’t true. It’s ironic that you said that about “political ideologues that refuse to think analytically” after praising President Bush earlier.

    I have offered no bigotry here. Retard. I like how you dash on the Catholics, though. I suppose you’re a Protestant, like the majority of loud-mouthed Christian Supremacists, those few uber-Catholics notwithstanding?

  28. on 18 May 2012 at 5:57 pm 28.Lou(DFW) said …

    27.Prime said …

    “Talking to you is like talking to a pigeon.”

    And as such, there’s really no reason for you or me or anybody else to follow him and the sock-puppets off on yet another, irrelevant tangent that’s a result of their inability to actually defend their position on the topic – the world’s biggest cross that includes an encounter with Jesus.

  29. on 18 May 2012 at 6:27 pm 29.Prime said …

    I wonder if the encounter with Jesus will be advertised as more likely or more authentic with donations to the cause, which you know will be part of the whole deal.

  30. on 18 May 2012 at 7:23 pm 30.DPK said …

    “I wonder if the encounter with Jesus will be advertised as more likely or more authentic with donations to the cause,”

    No doubt, and I’ll bet, like the Emperor’s New Clothes, will be guaranteed to all those who “truly believe” which of course will trigger a shitstorm of those claiming to have had an actual encounter. Those who would doubt, of course, will be summarily dismissed as not worthy an audience with Jesus. Simple as that.

  31. on 18 May 2012 at 7:34 pm 31.A said …

    “I like how you dash on the Catholics”

    I dashed the Catholics? You brought them up Hoss along with cigs as Southern phenomena. I only corrected you.

    “refuse to think analytically” after praising President Bush earlier.”

    I praised Bush? Please demonstrate or I will have to get Lou to pigeonhole you as a liar too:)

    “It takes a special kind of stupid to smoke”

    Yeah, yeah and the reason, region, state or nation is completely irrelevant unless one is a bigot. It takes more “stupid” to smoke KNOWING it cause cancer.

    Your rant is priceless. Sorry to expose you but it is for your own good Prime Bigot.

    Retard is not be used, it is offensive. You are a DNC hack, you should know better.

  32. on 18 May 2012 at 7:40 pm 32.Lou(DFW) said …

    31.ASStrophysicist said …

    “Your rant is priceless.”

    As is your ability to lure people into irrelevant discussions in order to avoid defending the indefensible theist position.

    Did they teach you how to that in astrophysics school?

  33. on 18 May 2012 at 8:14 pm 33.Prime said …

    31.A said …

    “I dashed the Catholics? You brought them up Hoss along with cigs as Southern phenomena. I only corrected you.”

    I brought up Catholics as a group that is marginalized and discriminated against, to some degree, in the South by redneck Southern Protestants. Then you put that some pejorative slant about them being a northern phenomenon. Maybe that’s not what you were doing? It’s impossible to tell since you’re essentially functionally illiterate.

    “I praised Bush? Please demonstrate or I will have to get Lou to pigeonhole you as a liar too:)”

    My bad, that was Dez, whom you’re fluffing, if you’re not the same guy.

    ““It takes a special kind of stupid to smoke”
    Yeah, yeah and the reason, region, state or nation is completely irrelevant unless one is a bigot. It takes more “stupid” to smoke KNOWING it cause cancer.”

    Nice work taking my quote out of context there. No, wilful rejection of science is much further along the lines of stupid than is optimistic bias.

    “Your rant is priceless. Sorry to expose you but it is for your own good Prime Bigot.”

    Um, no matter how many times you call me a bigot, it isn’t going to make it true, just like if you say “God exists” a bunch of times, it isn’t going to make that true either. Rednecks are real, they’re everywhere, and they’re particularly concentrated in the South (which is why they’re famously associated with that region).

    “Retard is not be used, it is offensive. You are a DNC hack, you should know better.”

    I know it’s offensive. That’s why I used it: to be offensive, to you. You’re right, though, I probably insulted all of the mentally handicapped people in the process of calling you one.

    I’m not a DNC hack, by the way. I’m urgently awaiting the GOP to get its head out of its ass so I can go back to not having a political party, thanks very much. I like to vote according to issues and the people running, not along party lines like a useful idiot.

  34. on 21 May 2012 at 4:09 am 34.PREACH said …

    TO the one who made the God is imaginary site … I PRAY THAT WHEN NEW WORLD ORDER BEGINS AND THE CATHOLIC POPE BENEDICT & THE JESUIT ORDER DECIDE TO ENFORCE THE BLUE LAW THAT YOU GET TORTURED IN THE GAS CHAMBERS & RAPED UP THE ASS LIKE ADOLF HITLER DID TO THE JEWS :) PEACE BITCH !

  35. on 21 May 2012 at 2:18 pm 35.Prime said …

    PREACHING, keeping it classy since never.

  36. on 21 May 2012 at 2:35 pm 36.Anonymous said …

    “God is love” and “Jesus is love” are among the refrains heard when the faithful are asked to explain and define their beliefs.

    Here we see their definition of love.

    Fortunately, for all of us, their gods are imaginary.

    By the way, did Hitler actually rape Jews up the ass as our Preacher claims? Other than Xtianity being a hive of xenophobia, I’m not sure of Preach’s point; being that Hitler was a Catholic and all that.

  37. on 21 May 2012 at 7:53 pm 37.alex said …

    34.PREACH said …

    typical theist venom.

    can’t you fuckers just chill out with your respective religions and quit shoving it down everybody’s throats? xtians, buddists, muslims, thorians, aztecs, whatever, will all get along if you’ll tone down and just fuckin do your shit at home.

    will you think about it? is this america? ALL religions should be free to be as delusional as they want without any outside interference from anybody as long as they do it private. atheists just want the same considerations. asking a muslim to swear on a bible is inconsiderate, same thing with an atheist. if you afford this simple common courtesy, peace might break out.

  38. on 24 May 2012 at 7:52 pm 38.Tim H. said …

    “An encounter with Jesus”? What does that mean?

    Obviously, it means Jesus can’t be everywhere at once. You gotta go to Branson.

  39. on 29 May 2012 at 2:59 pm 39.azriel said …

    @37. Alex

    you speak true my friend……

  40. on 29 May 2012 at 7:49 pm 40.Asher said …

    Preach,

    Come clean. So obvious Preach is in reality alex. Difficult to replicate that vocabulary.

  41. on 27 Jun 2012 at 8:55 pm 41.Daniel Bowman said …

    God heals “when you believe”.

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