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Christianity &Science Thomas on 05 Sep 2011 12:38 am

Prayer does not work, even for Texans, even for presidential candidates

Not long ago Rick Perry prayed for rain:

Rick Perry Prays for Rain

In the spring, Perry declared a 72-hour “Days of Prayer for Rain in Texas,” which has been followed by the persistence of one of the worst Texas droughts in history.

Perry’s prayer group has not worked at all:

Catastrophic fires burn thousands of acres, force evacuations across Central Texas

The largest and most destructive fire was in Bastrop County, where a blaze burned 14,000 acres and grew to an estimated 16 miles long by the end of the day, said Mark Stanford, fire chief of the Texas Forest Service.

“It’s catastrophic,” Stanford said of the Bastrop County fire. “It’s a major natural disaster.”

What are Christians left to do with the evidence before them? They could recognize the obvious: That the belief in prayer is a ridiculous superstition. But instead they have to explain why a “loving God” would completely ignore their prayers and cause so much suffering.

Here is what is really going on when people pray. These two videos can help you understand just how ridiculous the belief in prayer really is:

18 Responses to “Prayer does not work, even for Texans, even for presidential candidates”

  1. on 05 Sep 2011 at 7:43 pm 1.Horatiio said …

    I sent an email to the EOP 6 weeks ago. I have yet to get a response. Well, Daniel Gordon must not exist.

    LOL! the utter stupidity of milk jug logic.

  2. on 05 Sep 2011 at 9:04 pm 2.Observer said …

    #1 Hor- Assume there is a “God”. Why would he care what the hell you say or what happens to you? I assume the same could be true for EOP. Maybe EOP is “God”.

    On a similar thread, assume there is “God”, why wouldn’t “God” first torture and then burn Texas? Idiot Christians running amok, low-life culture, fat and ugly people, people epitomizing the evil inclination, ugly landscape.

    Go God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Oh wait…

  3. on 05 Sep 2011 at 10:58 pm 3.Xenon said …

    Um true enough Observer, I believe Lou or DPK is a resident. I can picture low-life fat and ugly DPK/Lou prancing around Tx now.

    Sorry DPK/Lou. Observers words not mine. I try to find good in all Americans.

    On another note, the EOP was created by FDR. As a loony left liberal I feel certain you should know that bit of info.

    Go Observer! Sudan might be far enough.

  4. on 06 Sep 2011 at 12:42 am 4.Observer said …

    #3 Inert Windbag- It would seem the only one saying anything bad about DPK or Lou is you: “I can picture low-life fat and ugly DPK/Lou prancing around Tx now.” You seem to be as much a coward as you are dumb. Why not direct an insult versus showing your inability to understand plain writing by concocting an insult and then trying to say it is someone else’s insult?

    On the other hand, this is informative, as it shows your utter inability to associate a thought that simple language expresses. This no doubt is the reason you and your ilk are remain stuck in the miasma of your faith and willful ignorance.

    If I were to go as far as the Sudan, I would stretch a bit and hit the Pampas or Patagonia. Maybe even stretch a bit more and go for the South Island.

  5. on 06 Sep 2011 at 2:21 am 5.Lou (DFW) said …

    3.Xenon said …

    “Um true enough Observer, I believe Lou or DPK is a resident. I can picture low-life fat and ugly DPK/Lou prancing around Tx now.

    Sorry DPK/Lou. Observers words not mine. I try to find good in all Americans.”

    Non, DPK wrote that he lived in the Philadelphia area. Do you ever get anything right?

  6. on 06 Sep 2011 at 2:25 am 6.Lou (DFW) said …

    1.Horatiio said …

    I sent an email to the EOP 6 weeks ago. I have yet to get a response. Well, Daniel Gordon must not exist.

    Hor, send an “email” to god. You won’t receive a reply. Even by your convoluted logic, god doesn’t exist.

  7. on 06 Sep 2011 at 2:26 am 7.Lou (DFW) said …

    3.Xenon said …

    “As a loony left liberal I feel certain you should know that bit of info.”

    Non, you are a “loony left liberal?” where is Hor’s LOL!

  8. on 06 Sep 2011 at 2:33 am 8.Lou (DFW) said …

    1.Horatiio said …

    “LOL! the utter stupidity of milk jug logic.”

    As opposed to the convoluted logic that you obtain from the “jug” that you obviously drink from while positing comments to this blog?

  9. on 06 Sep 2011 at 2:58 am 9.Lou (DFW) said …

    2.Observer said …

    “On a similar thread, assume there is “God”, why wouldn’t “God” first torture and then burn Texas? Idiot Christians running amok, low-life culture, fat and ugly people, people epitomizing the evil inclination, ugly landscape.

    Go God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

    Observer,

    As we have been told by the theists on this blog, god answers prayers, but sometimes the answer is NO! Therefore, god must be sending a message to the citizens of this country – DO NOT ELECT PERRY AS PRESIDENT or I will burn down the country, regardless of his prayer proclamations and your prayers!

    Now, where is Hor’s jug? I need a drink after dealing with these morons.

  10. on 06 Sep 2011 at 12:32 pm 10.observer said …

    #9 Hear! Hear!

  11. on 06 Sep 2011 at 7:33 pm 11.Horatiio said …

    “DO NOT ELECT PERRY AS PRESIDENT or I will burn down the country, regardless of his prayer proclamations and your prayers!”

    If we apply Milk Jug logic, the fact the “The chosen one” has not stopped the drought would lead us to acknowledge Obama is not “The chosen one” after all. He was suppose to lower the Oceans and heal our land.

    Following Milk Jug logic further, anyone other than Obama will suffice.

    Nose Buster,

    You still have not apologized to these Texans for the abusive language. The Milk Jug commands you to apologize. LOL!!

  12. on 06 Sep 2011 at 7:39 pm 12.Lou (DFW) said …

    11.Horatiio said …

    “If we apply Milk Jug logic, the fact the “The chosen one” has not stopped the drought would lead us to acknowledge Obama is not “The chosen one” after all.”

    Other than you, who said Obama was “The chosen one” who could end a drought?

  13. on 07 Sep 2011 at 1:21 am 13.Observer said …

    #11 Hor- Your reading comprehension really isn’t quite up to snuff is it?

  14. on 10 Nov 2011 at 3:10 pm 14.Christian said …

    Sure, there are some Christians that don’t reflect God’s image, but not all of us are like that… We’re not perfect because of Adam and Eve’s mistake for listening to the snake(Satan/Lucifer). God knew what was going to happen, but he didn’t want robots designed to love him, he wanted to give us free will so that we could love him by our own choice. It’s like a parent/child relationship. He still loves us even if we choose to go our own way, and he will still be waiting for us in the end. Also the thing with hell, it was designed for Satan and the rebellious angels(demons), not for us. Because we rebel against God, death came into the world. The world was meant to be perfect, that is why he created one man, and one woman. About Homosexuals, it doesn’t matter if they we born homosexual or not, we(Christians/everyone) should love them because there are some hurting people out there. More about Jesus, because God is holy, he can’t take our rebelliousness w/o punishment. The is a price we have to pay, just like there is the law. There was no way we could pay this price by ourselves. That is why He sent Jesus to be the perfect lamb, but to also be the Shepard. He was sent here to save us from our sins, and he was also here as a role model for all people. May God bless you all, and never be afriad to ask a Christian, or God, for help. – anonymous

  15. on 10 Nov 2011 at 3:48 pm 15.Dilip Bandyopadhyay said …

    It is just like saying that a car moves because there are wheels which helps the car to move ahead, there is engine which can roll the wheels, there is fuel which helps to create energy/force and so on. You will have to believe that inspite of all these a driver is also there who drives the vehicle and control the vehicle.Therefore you cannot deny the role of Driver and in case of universe driver is GOD.Again the car is not created out of evolution like you tell that universe is created out of evolution. You can not deny the role of manufacturer just like we cannot deny the role of GOD in the creation of this great UNIVERSE. It would be nothing but folly if we tell that this nature this universe is created out of evolution and automatically because science says nothing can be created automatically, there must be some agents who helps to create something Who is that something, in case of universe HE is the GOD.

  16. on 10 Nov 2011 at 6:14 pm 16.Lou (DFW) said …

    14.Christian said …

    “It’s like a parent/child relationship.”

    Don’t be so damn stupid. If any parent behaved like you maniacal god, then their children would immediately be taken from them.

  17. on 10 Nov 2011 at 6:25 pm 17.Lou (DFW) said …

    15.Dilip Bandyopadhyay said …

    “Therefore you cannot deny the role of Driver and in case of universe driver is GOD.”

    Really? If we “cannot deny” god, then you surely you have some evidence for god.

    “Again the car is not created out of evolution like you tell that universe is created out of evolution.”

    A car is not a natural thing. It is an “artificial,” man-made thing. The universe is part of nature, not man or super nature. The universe acts precisely as required by “the laws of nature.”

    If you bury a seed, it grows into a plant because of the laws of nature, biology, and chemistry. A plant doesn’t spontaneously appear out of thin air as if some god made it. It grows and develops from a seed according to the way it evolved to do such a thing. There is no evidence, nada, zero, that some supernatural being made it.

    So the universe is not evidence of god. Do you have any real evidence for your imaginary god?

  18. on 07 Dec 2011 at 2:54 am 18.David said …

    There was a time in my life that I was very religious. In fact, I would have wanted to give a person a knuckle sandwich for saying anything blasphemous toward God or Jesus. But, as time went buy, I started seeing the world as it truly is, and that is with stone-cold reality. I was able to break from the brainwashing I was given as a child, by a religious, God-fearing man that abused both me and my brother physically and mentally, and a religious, God-fearing mother that allowed the abuse to occur for years. Over time, I viewed this, and why some people are “blessed” and some people aren’t. Why didn’t God hear the prayers of both me and my brother while we were made to eat our own throw-up, run consistently through a field of stickers, whipped with extension cords, our head hit by his fist, and our hair literally pulled so hard by him, it came out by the roots. We were not allowed to use the bathroom in the morning before school, and it was not uncommon to go to school with feces in our pants, where we were ridiculed by the other students from 4th to 7th grade. What I speak is the tip of the iceberg. Then you have something that my experience cannot even compare to, and thats the murder of millions upon millions during the holocaust under the reign of a madman. Why didn’t God intervene then? What about 911 and the twin Towers? What about the Indonesian tsunami that killed a quarter of a million. What about the Japanese tsunami? God can part the Red Sea, yet stand by and not prevent a tsunami? Saying that one is “blessed” is nothing short of egotism and delusion. For a “loving” God to help one person and not another is not something I am prepared to subscribe to. No matter what video, proof, etc, this website or any other information source of truth will NOT be able to convince a religious zealot nut to think differently.

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