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Christianity &Islam &Judaism Thomas on 20 Dec 2010 12:25 am

Ricky Gervais and Pat Condell share their thoughts on Atheism and Faith

Let’s start with Ricky Gervais:

A Holiday Message from Ricky Gervais: Why I’m An Atheist

Here is why he is an atheist – he reasoned it out, just like any kid would with his belief in Santa, around age 8:

I was sitting at the kitchen table when my brother came home. He was 11 years older than me, so he would have been 19. He was as smart as anyone I knew, but he was too cheeky. He would answer back and get into trouble. I was a good boy. I went to church and believed in God – what a relief for a working-­?class mother. You see, growing up where I did, mums didn’t hope as high as their kids growing up to be doctors; they just hoped their kids didn’t go to jail. So bring them up believing in God and they’ll be good and law abiding. It’s a perfect system. Well, nearly. 75 percent of Americans are God-­?fearing Christians; 75 percent of prisoners are God-­?fearing Christians. 10 percent of Americans are atheists; 0.2 percent of prisoners are atheists.

But anyway, there I was happily drawing my hero when my big brother Bob asked, “Why do you believe in God?” Just a simple question. But my mum panicked. “Bob” she said in a tone that I knew meant, “Shut up.” Why was that a bad thing to ask? If there was a God and my faith was strong it didn’t matter what people said.

Oh … hang on. There is no God. He knows it, and she knows it deep down. It was as simple as that. I started thinking about it and asking more questions, and within an hour, I was an atheist.

Wow. No God. If mum had lied to me about God, had she also lied to me about Santa? Yes, of course, but who cares? The gifts kept coming. And so did the gifts of my new found atheism. The gifts of truth, science, nature. The real beauty of this world. I learned of evolution – a theory so simple that only England’s greatest genius could have come up with it. Evolution of plants, animals and us – with imagination, free will, love, humor. I no longer needed a reason for my existence, just a reason to live. And imagination, free will, love, humor, fun, music, sports, beer and pizza are all good enough reasons for living.

But living an honest life – for that you need the truth. That’s the other thing I learned that day, that the truth, however shocking or uncomfortable, in the end leads to liberation and dignity.

That is a good thing to remember: “the truth, however shocking or uncomfortable, in the end leads to liberation and dignity.”

Pat Condell is a little more blunt:

18 Responses to “Ricky Gervais and Pat Condell share their thoughts on Atheism and Faith”

  1. on 20 Dec 2010 at 4:15 pm 1.Jo13 said …

    I really enjoyed watching this video. I love how he doesn’t beat around the bush…he just says it like it is! Great post. :)

  2. on 20 Dec 2010 at 7:13 pm 2.Burebista said …

    Pat, you faith is a joke and your obvious anger shows you know it.

    Oh Pat, 10% of Americans are not atheist. Nice try though. The higher the number the better you feel about your faith,

  3. on 20 Dec 2010 at 7:40 pm 3.Anti-Theist said …

    Atheism is not faith, and does not reflect faith by any credible definition; where theists have faith, atheists claim ignorance. Example: to the question “where did the universe come from?”, we answer,” I don’t know.”; this is admittance of ignorance. You, Burebista, whom do no independent research will never be taken more seriously than candy corn; you resemble clown music to I’m sure both communities and only draw emotion from those who solemnly consider you to represent the future of mankind.

  4. on 20 Dec 2010 at 9:46 pm 4.Rostam said …

    Wow, this is one angry man. Pat get help. I’ll do my part with this link. The rest is up to you. Mary Christmas

    http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Have-Enough-Faith-Atheist/dp/1581345615

  5. on 20 Dec 2010 at 11:17 pm 5.Horatio said …

    Rostam

    I have read the book. I can attest it is very good,

  6. on 21 Dec 2010 at 1:00 am 6.Bud said …

    Look, I’m not the biggest Pat Condell fan out there, but he makes several good points which have not been addressed at all. Instead, Pat himself is attacked – the familiar argumentum ad hominem fallacy which is ubiquitous amongst the weak-minded – with criticisms like “this is one angry man… get help,” and “your obvious anger shows you know [your faith is a joke].”

    Maybe Pat is angry, but in all honesty, he may have good reason to be. If anyone disagrees, by all means respond to his comments – but do it with reason.

  7. on 21 Dec 2010 at 3:01 am 7.Clausewitz said …

    Recognizing the fact Pat is an irate man in no way utilizes argumentum ad hominem fallacy. Quite the contrary those who have the proverbial “ax to grind” tend not to think judiciously or honestly. Frankly, any belief system contains inconsistencies, points of faith and valid disparagements. Unless he recognizes these points when he moves from one worldview to another he is less than sincere.

    Pat could indeed have reasons to be angry. This in no capacity increases the validity of his argument.

  8. on 22 Dec 2010 at 5:50 pm 8.Observer said …

    Rosta- Perfect. Your boy Geisler believes that there are UFOs, and they are a manifestation of SATAN! (public record in AR) Additionally, the wing-nut thinks Creationism should be taught in schools. WTF? He may be intelligent, but that does not mean he isn’t insane.

  9. on 22 Dec 2010 at 5:54 pm 9.Observer said …

    How is it that Pat Condell is perceived as angry? Since when does specific, non-prevaricating, and emphatic speech qualify as angry? This is the idiocy political correctness.

    The Christian beliefs that are distinguishable from basic secular humanist beliefs deserve no respect.

  10. on 22 Dec 2010 at 10:01 pm 10.Observer said …

    Roast- Lucky for you it was a slow day. As if Hor endorsing a book is not sufficient indictment of its worth, here is an intelligent dis-assembly of Geisler and Turek’s incorrect arguments. You should also note that this book is published in Wheaton, Ill proximal to the xtian diploma mill college.

  11. on 22 Dec 2010 at 10:02 pm 11.Observer said …

    Here is address

    http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/p98.htm#CHAPTER1

  12. on 22 Dec 2010 at 10:46 pm 12.Horatio said …

    Nose Buster

    I am disappointed. I anticipated a great retort from you personally but you must resort to some guy named Kyle. I clicked his website and behold is was dead just like his response. Here go – I have this young lady Shelia who provides an intelligent demolishing of Kyle. You may not that Kyle’s work is not published at all:)

    Buster, bad news, I have seen your musings. Geisler would demolish you as well.

    http://www.tektoonics.com/etc/parody/faithatheist.html

    Merry Christmas to all

  13. on 23 Dec 2010 at 2:19 pm 13.Observer said …

    12 Hor- I can see how the logic of a babbling 15 year-old girl would be something you can relate to. It is false from the get-go. There are no great philosophers who have shown evidence for a god. It has always been a bust. That is why philosophy does not really deal with it anymore. It can not be done.

  14. on 23 Dec 2010 at 2:37 pm 14.Observer said …

    12 Hor- The link I included works. Why not refer to Kyle Williams taking apart the nonsense of G&T? Why wade into that banality when it has already been done?

    Merry Christmas to you too! I enjoy the modernized pagan Yule and Saturnalia enormously! Let Odin’s Wild Hunt Commence! ( Of course, you know if the Jesus myth is correct, he would have been born in the Spring during tax-time. Also, some early pope made the whole thing up to divert people from the more interesting booze and sex filled Saturnalia. Imagine the degeneracy that must have prevailed in Rome for a dumbass story like the laughable virgin birth to take hold. )

  15. on 23 Dec 2010 at 5:07 pm 15.Horatio said …

    “Of course, you know if the Jesus myth is correct, he would have been born in the Spring during tax-time.”

    Really Buster? This is shocking and disturbing! Maybe I need to rethink this whole B’day celebration?

    Merry Christmas and try to enjoy whatever it is you enjoy. Leave the odium, the bigotry and disparagement for those you find loathsome at least for the season find peace and Joy and goodwill towards men.

  16. on 23 Dec 2010 at 6:49 pm 16.Anti-Theist said …

    So I’ve seen a respectful post from Horatio; tis the season I guess. Merry Christmas to you too.

  17. on 02 Jan 2011 at 3:34 am 17.Perk Cartel said …

    If we could reason with religious people there would be no religious people.

  18. on 13 Aug 2011 at 12:40 pm 18.Emily said …

    Americans fall in love with anyone with an English accent, no matter how backward his information is, and Pat Condell is Exhibit A of that. His sophistries about Jews, Israel, and Jerusalem are telling in their ignorance.

    He starts with the phony premise that he loves the Jews. But then he does a bait-and-switch that shows he actually hates them as much as the Muslims do. Condell says that the Jews have as much right to Germany as they do Israel. Wrong. He says there has never been a Jewish presence in Jerusalem and that it has always been a Muslim Arab city. Oh, really? I suppose the men who were kings over it and built the temple were King “Dawud” and King “Suleiman.” Puh-leeze. Jerusalem has always been a Jewish city. There has always been a Jewish presence there.

    Next time you watch the words of Pat Condell, be more of a critical thinker. He gets it completely wrong on Jews and Israel and religion in general. And, therefore, you can’t listen to him on much of anything else.

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