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Christianity Thomas on 28 Oct 2010 01:31 am

The insanity of Christian protesters

A man confronts Christian protesters:

- Husband confronts abortion protesters

- What Happened When I Yelled Back at the “Christians” Calling My Wife a Murderer

Across a crowded street, two people with “God Is Pro-Life!” signs and pictures of torn-up fetuses managed to drive the blade in even deeper. Again, I was left trying to console the inconsolable, feeling even more helpless this time, because I wasn’t allowed into surgery with her.

If there were a “god”, which there isn’t, it is certain that he is not “pro-life”. Anyone can understand that simply by looking at statistics like these:

Miscarriage Statistics

There are about 4.4 million confirmed pregnancies in the U.S. every year.

900,000 to 1 million of those end in pregnancy losses EVERY year.

More than 500,000 pregnancies each year end in miscarriage (occurring during the first 20 weeks).

Approximately 26,000 end in stillbirth (considered stillbirth after 20 weeks)

Approximately 19,000 end in infant death during the first month.

Approximately 39,000 end in infant death during the first year.

Approximately 1 in 4 pregnancies end in miscarriage; some estimates are as high as 1 in 3. If you include loss that occurs before a positive pregnancy test, some estimate that 40% of all conceptions result in loss.

No one in their right mind would claim “god” to be “Pro-life” given those statistics.

27 Responses to “The insanity of Christian protesters”

  1. on 28 Oct 2010 at 6:25 am 1.Anonymous said …

    god help u ,

  2. on 28 Oct 2010 at 6:25 am 2.shane said …

    god help u ,

  3. on 28 Oct 2010 at 9:28 am 3.Severin said …

    2 Shane
    God help himself!
    Because some 20 – 25% of all pregnancies end with spontanious (natural) abortion, most frequently (and fortunately) without any consequences for the pregnant woman.

    God’s will?
    If you take abortion as killing of humans (I don’t!), then, again, god himself confirms his Biblical reputation of being the biggest baby killer ever.

  4. on 28 Oct 2010 at 8:17 pm 4.Horatio said …

    @@If there were a “god”, which there isn’t, it is certain that he is not “pro-life”.@@

    LOL, what a bunch of nonsense. So why bother with the statement? Because he knows, deep down there is a God.

    Another great atheist fallacy. God doesn’t remove all death and sin from the world as…..I……see fit therefore, he doesn’t exist. Man is truly egocentric is he not?

    Now atheist compare natural death to a woman choosing to bring death by force. Whatever eases the guilt I suppose. I have talked to way too many woman years after the fact who suffer with depression from their actions. All because they were never given the truth. Quite shameful.

    If you must make the choice you need to know the entire gruesome truth.

  5. on 28 Oct 2010 at 9:05 pm 5.Severin said …

    4 Horatio
    “Now atheist compare natural death…”

    WHAT “natural death”, Horatio?

    Isn’t ALL going on in the universe god’s will?
    WHAT about god’s plan?

    Are you becomming an atheist, or what?

  6. on 29 Oct 2010 at 12:23 am 6.nonymous said …

    I’m going to pray for you all… this whole website is ridiculous…

  7. on 29 Oct 2010 at 12:25 am 7.Anon said …

    imma pray for u

  8. on 29 Oct 2010 at 2:54 am 8.Hell Yeah said …

    So does this mean that since you are praying for us that we will be saved? LOL Or does it mean nothing will happen as if the only one hearing your prayer is yourself?

  9. on 29 Oct 2010 at 7:34 am 9.Severin said …

    4 Horatio

    You are always ready to react in “foggy” situations. Ususally not by using logic, but rather by using primitive (and helpless) sarcasm.
    In cases like this one, when you put yourself in deep shit, you do not react for some time, hoping we will forget your mistakes, then you appear again as nothing happened.

    Will you act the same way this time?

    YOU DECLARED YOURSELF AN ATHEIST, by clearly pleading to something “natural”, implicitly declared that “natural was OUT of god’s will and god’s plan (“..natural death..”).

    Something like that we will never forget!
    We see now that deep in your mind, out of your will, you do NOT believe in god!

    Wellcome abroad atheist!
    Be honest and tell the world you are the one!

  10. on 29 Oct 2010 at 7:41 am 10.Severin said …

    Horatio,
    Of course, if you now declare nothing happens without god’s will, then my statement that god is the biggest baby killer ever is correct, because HE kills babies by causing “natural” abortions.
    His “reasons” for doing it are irrelevant and do not make him less criminal.
    Each criminal has his “reasons” for doing bad deeds!

  11. on 29 Oct 2010 at 12:05 pm 11.Ben said …

    Wait wait, I have been told by the pro-death groups that abortions are not murder. Remember it is only a fetus.

  12. on 29 Oct 2010 at 3:08 pm 12.Severin said …

    11 Ben
    You missed the point, probably by purpose, to “save” Horatio by spreading the fog to debate.

    I never claimed abortion was murder!
    Horatio DID!

    Then, he suddenly turned to atheist way of thinking by telling us that we confuse intentional abortions with “natural” ones.

    There is no doubt that the great percentage of pregnancies end by spontanious abortions.

    I (an atheist) would call it “natural”.
    A believer can only say: god’s will!

    Of course, if it is god’s will, god is a massive baby killer.
    I would not go to explore his reasons, because everyone who kills babies is a dirty, lunatic criminal. As I said, every single criminal can find “reasons” for his deeds, which does not excuse him for what he is doing.

    If it is “natural”, there is no god!

  13. on 29 Oct 2010 at 3:20 pm 13.Severin said …

    Ben, Horatio,

    If I was not clear:

    YOU claimed abotrion was murder, and YOU said spontanious abortion was “god’s will”, as NOTHING can happen without god’s will. So, god = baby murderer.
    It was before.

    By suddenly proclaiming spontanious abortions “natural” (no god’s intervention!?), you gentlemen proclaimed yourself atheists.

    Wellcome, wellcome, just ADMIT it!

  14. on 29 Oct 2010 at 3:56 pm 14.Ben said …

    Now here, I am thinking as a theist. Human beings do not have the right to take life simply because they did not give it. God on the other hand is the giver of life and the decider of when it ends. With your fruity thinking God essentially murders everyone! Your logic is not sound.

  15. on 29 Oct 2010 at 6:26 pm 15.Raven said …

    Number one, that is the stupidest post I have ever seen. Number two, regardless of the fact that this post is incredibly stupid, you are right in that Jehovah (if this is the god you are referring to – you didn’t specify) is unlikely to be pro-life, since he kills people for very little reason and demands human sacrifices and is generally evil. Number three, being Christian has nothing to do with not supporting murder, and if there are any Christians who actually believe in the religion as it is layed out in their guidebook, they certainly would be pro-murder since the book is.

    ….And number five, it is really not at all saying something bad about someone that they “drove the pain home,” when the pain being referred to is your own pain for having committed, agreed to, or witnessed a heinous act (if as a witness you do support the criminal, which is essentially the same as agreement).

  16. on 29 Oct 2010 at 7:37 pm 16.Horatio said …

    Ah, Raven you didn’t have a number 4. Just saying.

    Ben,

    That would be the equivalent of Mr Q being charged with B&E into his own house! Atheists tend to want to think as an atheist OR theist depending on what point they want to make.

  17. on 29 Oct 2010 at 8:58 pm 17.Severin said …

    14 ben
    “God on the other hand is the giver of life and the decider of when it ends. With your fruity thinking God essentially murders everyone! Your logic is not sound.”

    My logic is perfect.
    You say god is giver and taker of life (“decider of when it ends”!).
    God, accordingly, decides wether to kill unborne babies or not.
    So, god IS a massive baby killer, as, by YOUR logic, he decides about millions of spontaneous abortin a year.

    Think: how those two sentences of yours fit together:
    “With your fruity thinking god murders everyone!” (implying that god does not murder everyone,is NOT decider of anything, only I say so in my “fruity thinking”)
    and
    “God is giver of life and the decider of when it ends.”

    You are in deep shit!
    Which one of those sentences you subscribe?

    You better become an atheist and will never feel paradoxes and talk bullshits.

  18. on 29 Oct 2010 at 9:06 pm 18.Severin said …

    16 Horatio
    “Atheists tend to want to think as an atheist OR theist depending on what point they want to make.”

    Fog again?
    Pleas give an example of atheist thinking as theist!

    Why don’t you just clear your own hypocrisy:
    WHAT is “natural death”?
    Has god anything to do with “naturald death” or not?
    Is “natural death” his will or not?

    Do not just hide, you atheist!

    Explain yourself! Be brave!

  19. on 30 Oct 2010 at 8:32 am 19.Severin said …

    To all debaters:

    I remind debaters to the fact that HORATO (#4)recognized “natural death”, which was not caused by god’s will.
    Saying it, he practiclly declared himself an atheist!

    Deep in his mind he knows there is no god, he is just too shy to declare it publically.

    Help him, please! Encourage him!

  20. on 30 Oct 2010 at 9:37 pm 20.Ben said …

    Hor,

    I think the best they could come up with is Indian giver. Poor Severin will never understand it but must would understand it.

    However Hor, God never claimed life was ours to keep. The Bible clearly states there is a time to live and a time to die.

  21. on 31 Oct 2010 at 7:07 am 21.Severin said …

    20 Ben
    “The Bible clearly states there is a time to live and a time to die.”

    What a great “philosophy”!
    What a brilliant sentence!
    How long did you take to think it out?

    I just wonder how did pre-biblical civilisations know when is time to die, without bible.
    How did Aztecs know when is time to die?
    How do Muslims know when is time to die?

    They probably did not die at all without Bible.
    Poor people!

  22. on 02 Nov 2010 at 12:16 pm 22.damien said …

    of corse god is not a murderer, or a criminal of any kind: this argument is ridiculous, there is no God only people being cruel and thoughtless as usual – on both sides of the argument.

  23. on 02 Nov 2010 at 3:25 pm 23.Felipe said …

    #21 “How did Aztecs know when is time to die?
    How do Muslims know when is time to die?”

    Is this Severin real? This has got to be one of the most mindless expressions I have ever run across.

    Second Severin, Ben’s quote comes from the Bible. The next time you feel a need to ridicule Biblical thoughts, look at your mindless question.

    Well, just for fun. They no when to die when their major organs shutdown. There you go.

  24. on 02 Nov 2010 at 4:44 pm 24.Severin said …

    Dear Felipe,
    “Second Severin, Ben’s quote comes from the Bible.”

    Yes, I do not doubt it, and THAT is why I posed the question.
    I only asked how did Aztec know about living/dying times, if we know they never saw the Bible?
    How did they live and die without Bible?

    Are all Aztecs, Mayas, ancient Egyptians, Ancient Scandinavians… now in hell?

  25. on 02 Nov 2010 at 4:46 pm 25.Severin said …

    23 Felipe
    “They no when to die when their major organs shutdown.”
    Then why do we need Bible?

  26. on 03 Nov 2010 at 1:59 am 26.Gray said …

    God does not mandate all that happens. If he were, then that means every sin that occurs is committed by him. Therefore if that is the belief of anybody, it makes no sense at all. Because God wishes free will upon man, God does not stop a man from sinning in this manner.

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