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Christianity Thomas on 07 Jan 2010 12:30 am

The insanity of Christianity leads to death, part 2

Born-again Baldwin Gets ‘Fanatical’ On Reality Show

Stephen Baldwin takes his faith so seriously, he’d watch his own daughter die in the name of religion.

Why would a parent teach such nonsense to a child?

14 Responses to “The insanity of Christianity leads to death, part 2”

  1. on 07 Jan 2010 at 9:29 pm 1.Spence said …

    “Why would a parent teach such nonsense to a child?”

    IMHO it is because atheist just refuse to listen to reason. The few I have spoke to believe aliens are a probability but God is not. It is really just ridiculous and much emotionalism drives this systematic belief.

  2. on 07 Jan 2010 at 9:36 pm 2.Bill Snedden said …

    @Spence: “IMHO it is because atheist just refuse to listen to reason. The few I have spoke to believe aliens are a probability but God is not. It is really just ridiculous and much emotionalism drives this systematic belief.”

    Ummm…Stephen Baldwin isn’t an atheist, so your “response” appears to be a non sequitur.

    And Aliens ARE certainly as equally probable as God, arguably more so. After all, we have direct objective evidence of material beings (ourselves) and direct objective evidence of extrasolar planets upon which aliens might live whereas we have NO such direct objective evidence of the existence of disembodied consciousness.

    And atheism simply isn’t a “belief” unless bald is also a hair color…

  3. on 07 Jan 2010 at 10:18 pm 3.G said …

    Atheism is the belief that man is the most powerful being in the universe unless an alien shows up as Bill believes. Buddhist and atheist with there no God illusions, Sad really.

    Bill, bald is not hair. Now if you want to call black hair (lack of color) a hair color you might have a point but you would still have hair. Egad man. work on your illustration there slick.

  4. on 07 Jan 2010 at 11:49 pm 4.Dustball said …

    G, your argument makes no sense. Bill is telling you that belief in no god is a much more logical conclusion that belief in any god. Try reading a bit more.

  5. on 08 Jan 2010 at 2:27 am 5.Bill Snedden said …

    @G: “Atheism is the belief that man is the most powerful being in the universe…”

    No, it is not. I suggest that consulting a dictionary might be in order…

    @G: “Bill, bald is not hair.”

    True, and that’s the point. Atheism is NOT a “belief”. It is, rather, the LACK of belief. Just as “bald” is the LACK of hair.

    @Dustball: “Bill is telling you that belief in no god is a much more logical conclusion that belief in any god.”

    Actually that’s not my point (although I don’t disagree that atheism is the more logically defensible position). I was merely pointing out that the idea that aliens are more probable than God isn’t at all ridiculous nor is it driven by emotion. It’s simple empirical reasoning.

  6. on 08 Jan 2010 at 4:22 am 6.G said …

    Atheism is a belief that God does not exist. It is no different than secular humanist or any other man-centered religion. You are defined as a religion in our court system. You are just Buddhism without the nirvana. Deal with it and stop attempting to claim you have no belief. If it were true AA would not exist, no Dawkins, Hichens and the rest of the gang.

    You are the black hairs.

  7. on 08 Jan 2010 at 8:00 am 7.Jimmy said …

    G “It is no different than secular humanist or any other man-centred religion.”

    Christianity is got to be the most man-centred religion there is. God created the universe and everything in it specifically with humans in mind. How man centred can you get.

  8. on 08 Jan 2010 at 10:43 am 8.Severin said …

    What I saw on this video was…horror.
    I was crying spontaniosly watching that beautifull poor child surrounded by money-hungry beasts jumping roaring and screaming arround, instead to be surrounded by medical equipment and gently nurses.

    Was that USA, or Haiti?
    No such things are alowed in European countries. Organizers of such spectacles would instatntly be arrested for child busing fake (unauthorized and unprofessional) healing.

    Shame, shame, shame…and sorrow.

  9. on 08 Jan 2010 at 12:03 pm 9.Anonymous said …

    http://rationalists.wordpress.com/2010/01/08/dear-stephen-baldwin/

  10. on 08 Jan 2010 at 12:34 pm 10.Rodney said …

    If I don’t believe in faries, is that an illusion? No.

  11. on 08 Jan 2010 at 3:10 pm 11.Bill Snedden said …

    @G: Atheism is a belief that God does not exist.”

    That is ONE possible definition and generally it only applies in the case of SPECIFIC god(s). For example, the ancient Romans referred to Christians as “atheists” because the Christians denied the existence of the Roman gods. By this definition, you are an atheist as well. But atheism is also the lack of belief in God(s).

    There is a difference between “I believe God does not exist” and “I do not believe God exists”. Both of these positions can be characterized as atheist, but the former is in no way the sole definition or understanding of atheism. As I suggested before, consulting a dictionary (or perhaps an encyclopedia) might be helpful.

    @G: “It is no different than secular humanist or any other man-centered religion.”

    False. Atheism is only a position on one particular issue. It is not a worldview or system of belief and is no more a religion than theism simpliciter. Some general reading on religion may be of benefit to you.

    @G: “You are defined as a religion in our court system.”

    Also false. Humanism has been so defined, but atheism has not and cannot be so defined.

    @G: “You are just Buddhism without the nirvana. Deal with it and stop attempting to claim you have no belief. If it were true AA would not exist, no Dawkins, Hichens and the rest of the gang.”

    Risible nonsense. Obvious ignorance of Buddhism, atheism, AA, etc. What more is to be said? Don’t you feel you have any intellectual responsibility to at least minimally acquaint yourself with issues before you attempt to argue about them? Do yourself a favor: do some reading about a subject before claiming knowledge of it. It’s no shame to be ignorant, but willful ignorance is a moral failure…

  12. on 08 Jan 2010 at 7:29 pm 12.G said …

    Bill all just opinion. As a former atheist from way back I know of what I speak. Secular humanism is a form of atheism just as Methodism is a form of christianity. Buddhism is also a from of atheism. You obviously cannot deny it with facts other than just mere denial. No God = atheism.

    Do yourself a favor and embrace the title. It gives you great protection and according to our courts you have a religion. Acquaint yourself with the topic before denying the truth so foolishly.

  13. on 15 Jan 2010 at 9:52 am 13.Archbish said …

    @G:
    Your posts are, as has been pointed out, riddled with flaws. One other example: Buddhism is not atheist. Some Buddhists are theist, some polytheist, some pantheist, some atheist, some agnostic.
    My 14 year old Religious Ed students can pick holes in what you say. Do please spend some time studying these ideas before you comment. You give us Christians a bad name when you make the world think us ignorant and ill-educated.

  14. on 15 Jan 2010 at 12:53 pm 14.G said …

    Riddled with flaws yet you offer none of the flaws as example. Buddhist are atheist. Spending much time Chang Mai Thailand gave me some great insight into that truth. You even admitted to the point. Do you have any thing else?.

    Stop pretending you are the archbishop and stop making assumptions on my beliefs.

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