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Christianity &Islam &Rationals &Science Thomas on 29 Dec 2009 12:21 am

A brilliant message about atheists

A brilliant message about atheists: “Imagine if many Christians got their wish, and all atheists left America…”

11 Responses to “A brilliant message about atheists”

  1. on 29 Dec 2009 at 2:53 am 1.Tom said …

    Really, the overall point is valid, but:
    1. Capitalization rules and misplaced apostrophes throughout.
    2. Half of the atheists shown as people who would “leave America” are British.
    3. Western Sahara isn’t a country.

    So, it wants editing to not look like it’s coming from an unschooled person. At least this person should be self-aware enough to know that s/he needs an editor.

  2. on 29 Dec 2009 at 2:53 am 2.Tom said …

    Really, the overall point is valid, but:
    1. Capitalization rules and misplaced apostrophes throughout.
    2. Half of the atheists shown as people who would “leave America” are British.
    3. Western Sahara isn’t a country.

    So, it wants editing to not look like it’s coming from an unschooled person. At least this person should be self-aware enough to know that s/he needs an editor.

  3. on 29 Dec 2009 at 4:50 am 3.Xenon said …

    No, as any atheist could tell you, evidence and citation are necessary components for determining truth from fiction. If no evidence is put forth then it is? assumed to be false. Author claims sources to back his claims but provides none.

    Each claim he makes I have actually read statistics proving otherwise. Therefore, this is just a feel good video for atheist. Atheist have been notorious in the past for claiming those with no religious affiliation to be atheist when if fits there ends.

  4. on 29 Dec 2009 at 6:36 am 4.Anonymous said …

    Then if there is a God?…then why are you stuck in middle class?

    but others get more money than you, movie stars will have everything they need but here people in middle class struggle what makes them more special that their needs are met?, Does god love them more?, Does god think certain ppl are better than others

    canyou pray togod to give you money right now to give to millions of starving people for food?

    Can you?, even if you were to do it in the name of God can you pray for a miracle to feed and heal the starving all around the world? Even though one part of the world over indulges and the other starves to death lol, and you think there is a god who cares about you? when you are stuck in middle class and you wont ever see the world lest you have money totravel but you’ll have to work for that but there is some person who doesnt believe in god like a movie star who can do anything they want any time they want cause they have money

    But god loves and cares about you so much youare stuck in middle class and cant do shit.

    Hmmm…..

  5. on 29 Dec 2009 at 6:42 am 5.Anonymous said …

    Only the poor and the middle class believe in god because they have to have something to hope for to pull them through the struggle

    the rich are never in pain they are out in vacations and having fun, there is no need for God then, they have nothing to fear after all they can do whatever that want cause they have the money.

    Only the poor and the middle class accept God for comfort because there is lots to fear.

  6. on 29 Dec 2009 at 7:04 am 6.junefer said …

    To anonymous: In the manner you say things I can see that your life and the life of the people around you is more than a mess. I will use your own language to describe yourself and the people around you! your life is full of SHIT!

  7. on 29 Dec 2009 at 8:54 am 7.Severin said …

    Xenon 3
    “If no evidence is put forth then it is?”
    I agree!

    But,tell me: are statistics acceptable eidences for you?

    At least a part of claims in this video are right, based on statistics. You can easyly prove it for yourself.
    In short: the more religious the country, the worse statistics (health, illiteracy, poverty, criminal…).

    It is valid not only for muslim countries, but for christian ones, as well (South America).

    Statistics clearly show that you have in the USA much more religious people (per capita) than in UK, Norwey, Sweden, Holland, Belgia, Germany, even Spain!

    The same statistics show that there are much less illiteracy, poverty, criminal, EVEN ABORTIONS, in those countries, per capita, than in the USA. AVERAGE material staus of population of those countries is much higher than in USA. Goods and resources are distributed differently in those countries than in USA.Average subject of those countries live better than average subject in USA. They ALL have health insurance (and they are not communists, be sure!).

    Look the South American countries, and compare their status! There is no more than 0.5% of atheists in S. America!

    Conclusion? With no exception, the higher the religious opsession of population, the bigger problems and negative statistics. NO EXCEPTION!

  8. on 29 Dec 2009 at 1:34 pm 8.Xenon said …

    Anonymous equates money with blessing. yeah that has worked out well for Paris. I wouldn’t trade places with the hollywood elite if I had a Jeannie in a bottle. I think we have rendered this thread moot with lack of evidence and with examples.

    Severin get a spellchecker and some facts and maybe I’ll respond. Until then you are pointless.

  9. on 30 Dec 2009 at 2:21 pm 9.Severin said …

    Xenon 8
    “Severin get a spellchecker and some facts and maybe I’ll respond”

    My native language is Croatian. It is a “small” languge, anly some 4.5 million people speak it. It is a slavic language, by grammar and syntax differing VERY much from English. And I am self-taught in English (in school I learnt German, French and Latin, but never English, unfortunately for me).
    So I appologize for my poor English to everyone, but I am doing my best to make my comments as understandable as possible, and hope everybody can understand what I am saying.
    Better than Tarzan’s English it is, I hope.

    May I take further part in this debate, please?

  10. on 30 Dec 2009 at 4:37 pm 10.Severin said …

    Xenon 8
    “ Severin get a spellchecker and some facts and maybe I’ll respond”

    Oh, what an honor! I can (maybe!) expect a respond from his gracious Highness, if I improve my English!
    And, of course, if I get some facts, which his Highness is pardoned to give (as he never gives any!).
    How did I deserve such a mercy?

    Xenon, I am debating here WITH you, yes, and people like you, but not FOR you!
    I am debating here beacuase I would be happy to open eyes to somebody whose brain is not completely washed out with (dangerous!) religious nonsenses.
    Maybe, by reading my debate, someone will start to think with his/her own brain, instead to be tricked and obsessed by religious bullshits.

    I doubt you are able to respond at all.

    I gave you many arguments at:
    Severin 7, up here
    “Understanding Dualism”:
    Comments 22, 34, 35, 36, 49, 51, 59, 60, 69, 70
    “Understanding Atheism: How do we know God is immaginary?”:
    Comment 2
    “The Bible actually causes people to murder…”
    Comments 24, 30, 34, 38
    Etc.

    You never refered to ANY of my arguments. What can one conclude from this fact (your silence), but that they were valid ones.

    I NEVER claimed my arguments and explanations were FACTS! Just arguments to support my opinion.
    And I never shamed to use arguments from sacientist’s works, based on which this world is going on, and going better (developing).
    Based on Bible, AND other religious books, as the only “word(s) of god(s)” known, this world has only hate and wars.

    You NEVER gave any argument.
    Your debate was all the time limited to pure unargumented negation of somebody’s opinions, to “who said what”, and to agrresive requests for arguments/evidences/facts, which you never offered from yourself.

    To claim my arguments inconclusive, illogical, invalid, you need more than just say it!
    And you did not even say it!

    So, let us start, finally (if you please, your Highness): do you recognize statistics as a fact?
    What counter-arguments do you have to offer against mine, exposed at my comments listed above?

  11. on 31 Dec 2009 at 8:20 am 11.Severin said …

    Xenon 8
    “Until then you are pointless.”
    THAT is a typical way of your debating!

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