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Rationals Thomas on 22 Dec 2009 12:04 am

Atheist ads in Las Vegas

Atheist ads in Las Vegas, and the reaction:

There is nothing dogmatic about the Winter Solstice. It is reality. It is the shortest and darkest day of the year.

19 Responses to “Atheist ads in Las Vegas”

  1. on 22 Dec 2009 at 3:36 pm 1.BrianE said …

    Wow – that was painful for 2 reasons. #1 – Laura Ingraham has got to be the snarkiest bitch on TV; perfect for Faux News. And second, Annie Laurie Gaylor spoke like she was on muscle relaxants. Way to make atheists look stupid.

  2. on 22 Dec 2009 at 4:37 pm 2.quedula said …

    I thought Christians were supposed to be “meek & mild”. I think Annie is a better advert for Freedom from Religion than Laura Ingham’s stridency is for Christianity. She kept shouting over Annie’s replies. I try not to dislike people at first sight but, wow! it is hard in this case.

  3. on 22 Dec 2009 at 4:42 pm 3.xtrain said …

    Feel the Christian love pouring off of Laura Ingraham.

  4. on 22 Dec 2009 at 4:44 pm 4.Datan0de said …

    Wow! The interviewer’s entire style is poor manners and logical fallacies! What grieves me is that the typical Fox viewer is going to watch this and think that Ingraham won the day, despite the fact that she didn’t make a single relevant point and her method of heading off Gaylor’s retorts is to simply interrupt her with yet another spurious claim.

    Pathetic.

  5. on 22 Dec 2009 at 4:45 pm 5.Anonymous said …

    That woman on the left is a fucking cunt. hands down.

  6. on 22 Dec 2009 at 5:05 pm 6.Griff Morivan said …

    …Jeez. So, let’s start from the top. I don’t watch Fox News. Predominantly because it is the most bigoted, hate mongering facet of American News Media. But regardless, Ingraham was pretty far off base, but at the same time, I feel like Gaylor kinda screwed the pooch on this one. She displayed herself as weak willed, incapable of speaking up, and to the Faux News demographic, that’s exactly what they want from us.

    What kills me, and what I’d have loved to hear is something where Gaylor brought up that the gross number of people you run into on a daily basis that do believe, that are faithful, few of them will be gracious and generous and forgiving. If I slam into someone, say I trip in the street? Most people would call me a dumbshit for being a klutz. I know a few open minded Christians, but then they always preface it. “Most Christians would say I’m not one.”

    …Sorry for the rant. Ingraham is a shmuck, but Gaylor botched it, hard.

  7. on 22 Dec 2009 at 6:02 pm 7.Curmudgeon said …

    “That woman on the left is a fucking cunt. hands down.”

    Wow, feel the atheist love! Didn’t hear Laura calling anyone a name like that. Atheist always get upset when someone holds their feet to the fire. They are only happy when someone rolls over for them. When the moneychangers are in the temple deceiving the people, you flip over their tables.

  8. on 22 Dec 2009 at 6:11 pm 8.Truett said …

    Freedom from Religion? Is that what they are trying to make the constitution say now? First there is no wall and second you don’t have a right to be free from religion.

    Get use to the idea. If Christmas, a national holiday bothers you that much don’t participate. Go to work, stay at home and cook your winter solstice cookies. You guys give me a great laugh! Lastly, don’t waste money on stupid signs. Go feed some homeless as a Christmas gift….or er a winter solstice gift or whatever you guys do.

  9. on 22 Dec 2009 at 8:14 pm 9.3D said …

    Did this Winter Solstice Christian talking point bullshit start recently or something? Like it’s an atheist holiday All I’ve heard from Christians the last few weeks is snarky Winter Solstice comments. I wonder if there was a right wing host who disseminated an e-mail about it and set them all into a robotic frenzy, like the way they say “AL GORE IS FAT” over and over when you mention climate change.

    Atheists don’t celebrate the “Winter Solstice”, that’s YOU motherfuckers with your tree and your mistletoe and all the other pagan bullshit you grafted on to Jesus. I just go along with the celebrations because it’s the only time of year that most Christians actually somewhat make an effort to be nice to people.

    But there is some great irony in Christian dummies who celebrate a Pagan holiday and then mock atheists for celebrating a Pagan holiday. In fact I think the Alanis-ometer just blew a gasket.

  10. on 22 Dec 2009 at 8:48 pm 10.Mark Greene said …

    Curmudgeon: We are flipping your tables, and you are angry. That just sucks for you, doesn’t it? And what you heard was Laura not letting Annie speak. You people are good for that.

    Truett: Freedom of religion also includes freedom to NOT believe. Get used to it. You people just hate the fact that we are speaking up.

    Sorry, but we are not going away.

  11. on 22 Dec 2009 at 9:18 pm 11.Michael said …

    3D, get some Xanax dude. BTW, Al Gore is fat and he is a hypocrite and a liar and refuses to debate. I thought I would go a little further.

    Atheist are free to stay. Get use to Christmas. Its here, it will not go away so just enjoy it and stop being so angry. You spend all year being angry, this is a time to be at peace. Why do you get so upset with the religious? You guys are worse than they are at telling people how to think and live. Read your own posts! Your DONT KNOW if there is a God or not so stop claiming you do.

    And no I am not Christian so don’t start with your ASS-umptions you knuckleheads but I love Christmas.

  12. on 22 Dec 2009 at 11:38 pm 12.AntiRoss said …

    Hey Curmudgeon!
    Freudian slip? “Atheist always get upset when someone holds their feet to the fire.” Do ya miss the burnings pal?
    People wonder why atheists speak up. Well, we’re finally able to do so because Christians are losing their power over us. Don’t forget what your cult represents and has represented for two thousand years. Ignorance, superstition and power. Anyone who stands with that history has no decency whatsoever.

  13. on 23 Dec 2009 at 1:42 am 13.Curmudgeon said …

    “Do ya miss the burnings pal?

    Witches were burned, not atheist. Miss the Gulags AntiRoss? I bet you would love to put Christians back in the gulags or throw them to the lions. Don’t you feel just a little ridiculous playing the emotion card.

    Christians are losing their power over you? That is precious, I’m glad to hear they have let you out of the jails and basements. Stop being paranoid.

    My cult? What cult am I in AntiRoss? I wasn’t even aware we were boys…..I sense bitterness…..

  14. on 23 Dec 2009 at 3:05 am 14.3D said …

    “Atheist are free to stay. Get use to Christmas. Its here, it will not go away so just enjoy it and stop being so angry. You spend all year being angry, this is a time to be at peace.”

    Here’s the second line in your comment.

    “BTW, Al Gore is fat and he is a hypocrite and a liar and refuses to debate.”

    I’m gonna go drink some eggnog, be merry and laugh at how stupid you are for calling other people angry when you’re such a bundle of rage. Merry Christmas dummy!

  15. on 23 Dec 2009 at 6:04 am 15.AntiRoss said …

    It was a joke, Curmudgeon.
    Drama queen.
    You bring several topics up, though…

    I don’t have the energy, time or desire to go through the entire history of pagan Europe with you, but apparently need to point out that the supposed witches weren’t the only victims of your spiritual ancestors, Just about anyone that didn’t fit into some very narrow categories was. Never mind the more specific ones (the list of massacres is astonishingly long) and the oppression. I can’t fathom how anyone could study any history and then stand up and proudly proclaim membership to the church. It would take someone with no sense of honor.

    And maybe you should try to understand just why Rome finally had enough of early Christian BS and finally resorted to the show in the forum. It wasn’t a light decision, or the first choice. Of course I’m not condoning their primitive method of dealing with people that were trying to completely take over their society and overturn all traditions (including religious inclusion, ironically).

    Gulags again. Puhleeeease….Christians refer to these in a false and deliberately misleading way. And it in no way excuses the horrors wrought by your cult of ignorance. And it’s pretty rich for a Christian to yell gulag, after centuries of persecuting everyone else, especially Jews, and all because of a religion based on myth and storytelling.

    Christians are indeed losing power, DQ – that is hardly a “precious” comment, no matter how you try to belittle the point. Over the past several hundred years, secular values have been fought for, and only been hard won by opposing the church and its drooling followers. It is, in fact, secular and human values that most Christians are still against today.

    I refer to Christianity as a cult because the shoe fits. Sure, it’s been around for a long time, but all the other nasty little elements are there in full view for all of us outsiders to see.
    It’s not just Easter Bunnies, Santa, Nativity Plays and Sunday School colouring books. Even your charitable work, nice as that can be, has serious strings attached.

  16. on 23 Dec 2009 at 1:24 pm 16.Curmudgeon said …

    ‘I don’t have the energy, time or desire to go through the entire history of pagan Europe with you’

    For the entire blog we say THANK YOU. You self-appointed educators are a bore. I am quite well informed. thanks
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    “maybe you should try to understand just why Rome finally had enough of early Christian BS”

    Does that imply when the US has enough of the atheist BS it would be OK to throw atheist to the lions?
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    “Christians refer to these in a false and deliberately misleading way.”

    You changed the subject. So you approve the gulags against Christians and anyone who does not follow the state? You atheist always like to point at some else.
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    “refer to Christianity as a cult because the shoe fits.”

    The last of a stupid atheist assumptions. You make an assumption anyone who is not an atheist is a Christian. If a definition is a requirement, probably a deist. I don’t have the time to go through American history with you but you will find it prominent through US history. I assume all atheist are militant loud mouth arrogant blow hards, Turns out I am right.

  17. on 23 Dec 2009 at 4:29 pm 17.AntiRoss said …

    Your cup is full Curmudgeon. And your screen name is appropriate for your reading comprehension.

  18. on 23 Dec 2009 at 7:55 pm 18.Curmudgeon said …

    Thanks, my cup is nice and full. I think your screen name fits as well with one little tweak. Try DianaRoss Yes, I like! You definitely need to get your panties out of a wad. The truth can hurt, adjust.

    Curmudgeon-at-large

  19. on 24 Dec 2009 at 8:36 pm 19.Steve Ahlquist said …

    These tiresome taunts by people like Curmudgeon should simply be regarded as the last gasps of a petulant, dying minority opinion more concerned with mythology than reality. Ignoring this, but concentrating on the bigger issues represented in the “discussion” between the frankly disgusting Laura Ingraham and the polite, logical Annie Gaylor, we can can see living proof of the the contention that: “It seems that when Christianity is popular, Christians are content with the idea of a firewall separating Church and State. It’s only when Christianity begins to lose it’s influence over the population at large that Christians begin to campaign for the State to adopt a Christian character.” You can read the full article here: http://bhascience.blogspot.com/2009/12/christian-cancellation-of-secular-truce.html

    The takeaway, then, is that Ingraham’s rants (and the tired taunts of the oxymoronic childish Curmudgeon on this site) are simply the death screams of a vanishing ignorance. Annie Gaylor’s tactic was the right one: She politely stated the truth, and never allowed herself to descend to the level of her interviewer.

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