Monthly ArchiveNovember 2010
An interesting thread from the forums:
Example of the “Folly”:
5. Atheists believe that blind, unintelligent forces of nature, via genetic mutations and the process of natural selection, produced the myriads of delightful creatures that inhabit Earth’s environment. The skeptic can see that a simple pair of pliers, with only four components, must have been designed by an intelligent being, yet he argues that the human body, with its 100 trillion constituent elements (cells), organized into ten magnificent systems, is merely the result of a marriage between Mother Nature and Father Time. How very stupid such ideology is!
The rebuttals in the forum thread are excellent. And this video helps answer #5:
As scientific progress continues at a rate faster than any in human history, the evidence for evolution will continue to increase at a faster and faster rate, while creationists will continue to appear more and more wrong every year. The idea of a scientific challenge to evolution will die with time, if it could be said to have ever been alive. Creationism will be forced to fester in ignorance, as it cannot compete in a modern world where information is increasingly open, and the science of our past becomes increasingly clear.
Christianity Thomas on 26 Nov 2010
An interesting question on Reddit:
and without a sense of touch, a literal vegetable with no way of ever knowing the outside world. He dies in the hospital without ever knowing God or religion in general, not even able to know what thought is, does he still go to hell? If he literally is senseless can he still commit sin? And if not does that mean he’s sinless, or does he still have original sin? If it’s the latter, why is it justifiable to punish somebody for the transgressions they weren’t even alive to do?
TL;DR- If there is a man with literally no senses and no way of communicating with the outside world, can he still commit sin, and will he go to hell when he dies?
And then look at this answer:
Sin is innate to our human nature, and inherited from Adam, so unless you’re going to argue that such a person is not really a human, then you’re going to have to argue that this person is sinful.
However, in order to argue that such a person cannot know God, you would have to argue that knowledge of God is purely learned via external means and that external religion is what gets us right with Him. Of course, we know from scripture that this is not the case.
To which there is an obvious response:
And how close to correct would your religious beliefs be without the Bible, which is external to you?
Why would ANYONE want to believe in such a ridiculous notion? The idea that children are innately sinful and evil is absurd, yet billions believe it. Why?
Hey, thanks religion. You invented the idea of stoning a person thousands of years ago, and you are still doing it today
Here is a description of a religious stoning – completely barbaric and still in use today:
This method of execution is still practiced in certain countries, notably Iran, where it is used to punish adulterers and other criminals. The graphic below looks at how a stoning occurs
A Muslim explaining stoning:
There is an actual stoning shown at the end.
You can find plenty of videos on Youtube:
Last week this video was posted to ask, “what’s with the trance-like swaying?“:
The lyrics of the song’s refrain are:
Our God(our God) is an awesome God
He reigns(He reigns) from heaven above
With wisdom(with wisdom) pow’r and love
our God is an awesome God
In the post this question appeared:
WHY IS YOUR GOD AWESOME?
HE LETS THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN STARVE EVERY DAY.
HE KILLS PEOPLE WITH HORRIBLE DISEASES.
HE STANDS BY AS CITIES ARE DESTROYED WITH HURRICANES AND TSUNAMIS
IF YOU BELIEVE THE BIBLE, HE KILLED THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE (WHICH HE CREATED IN HIS OWN IMAGE) IN A FLOOD.
ACCORDING TO REVELATION HIS PLAN IS TO DESTROY THE ENTIRE PLANET
AND HE WON’T HEAL AMPUTEES!
WHAT IS AWESOME ABOUT THIS DEMON??????????
Good question Christians: why is your God awesome?
The raised arms… the swaying… the trance-like state of the audience. Does this happen in any other context?
It might seem insane, but religion continues to fight against technology:
Evangelical Christians in Brazil have banned the use of USB connections after claiming the technology is the mark of Satan-worshippers.
Thou shalt not commit adultery. And thou also shalt not use Facebook.
That’s the edict from a New Jersey pastor who feels the two often go together.
The Rev. Cedric Miller said 20 couples among the 1,100 members of his Living Word Christian Fellowship Church have run into marital trouble over the last six months after a spouse connected with an ex-flame over Facebook.
Because of the problems, he is ordering about 50 married church officials to delete their accounts with the social networking site or resign from their leadership positions. He had previously asked married congregants to share their login information with their spouses and now plans to suggest that they give up Facebook altogether.
Reverend Jim Peasboro of Savannah GA has written a book “The Devil in the Machine: Is your computer possessed by a demon?” Some of the points raised in the book by the author are:
* “While the Computer Age has ushered in many advances, it has also opened yet another door through which Lucifer and his minions can enter and corrupt men’s souls.”
* Demons can possess anything with a brain, including a chicken, a human being, or a computer.
* “Any PC built after 1985 has the storage capacity to house an evil spirit.”
A thread from Reddit:
I’ve not been a Redditor for long, but I’ve been a Christian for decades. Over the past couple weeks, I have been entertaining myself on the Atheist / Christian subreddits, and I wanted to say something:
I have some close atheist friends with whom I sometimes spar; however, until recently I still had some preconceived notions about why atheists argue and debate Christians. The compulsive need to be right, for instance; or the need to humiliate people who lack critical thinking skills; or the desire for affirmation that Christianity is full of selfish, foolish hypocrites. All negative things.
What I didn’t count on is the number of you who simply want Christians to “see the light.” Who don’t want us to waste our lives chasing the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, believing fairy tales because we’re scared not to. You care about the quality of Christians’ lives more than many Christians care about yours. Sometimes much more.
I’m sure this post will be met with some ire; there are those of you who are apt to feel as though I’m mollycoddling, and a few will no doubt wonder why I continue to live in ignorance if I’m so appreciative. Try to take what I say at face value: I mischaracterized many of you ridiculously and I feel bad about it. Thanks for being so cool.
The subsequent comments are all over the map, as is the norm on Reddit.
Christianity Thomas on 14 Nov 2010
Richard Dawkins Debunks Noah’s Ark :
How could anyone believe such a ridiculous story?
What is it about Christianity (and religion in general) that causes such huge, senseless bigotry and violence?
* 12-year-old girl at Hernando Middle School was attacked by fellow students.
* The attackers said the victim’s name, Randi, was a ‘boy name’.
* No charges were filed because police were not called.
(Hernando, MS 11/4/10) – A 12-year-old girl was beaten by fellow students at Hernando Middle School on Wednesday, ostensibly because of her masculine-sounding name.
Randi Foster is a four-foot-nine student who doesn’t go looking for trouble. But on Wednesday morning at school, she ran into plenty of it.
After a Fellowship of Christian Students meeting, four girls and a boy surrounded her.
“They started talking about me like I was a man, and like, stuff like that. That I shouldn’t be in this world. And my name was a boy name,” she said.
Foster described how these people attacked her.
“I was kicked in the rib. I was kicked in the leg. I was hit in the face. I was sat on top of and my face was jammed into the floor. I was thrown onto the cafeteria table. I was thrown in between the seats.”
Her mother, Meggan Foster, is appalled at the whole ordeal.
Christianity Thomas on 09 Nov 2010
Kent Hovind asks a question:
Physicist and author Stephen Hawking says that no God was required to make the universe. Stephen, please give a scientific explanation for how your computer came to be without referring to any outside source of power or design such as “man.”
Your answer must be confined to natural causes within the elements of the machine. You can refer to physical forces like inertia, gravity, centrifugal force, etc., even though it could be argued that even they need a designer! If you choose to involve long time periods for your explanation, then also please factor in the disintegration and natural decomposition of the various materials in the computer as well.
One of the replies is excellent:
Kent, this is so silly I hardly know where to start the analysis.
We know how computers are made; we can see them being built or we can even buy the parts and build them ourselves. To exclude “man” as a possible explanation of computers is akin to excluding gravity from our explanation of the earths revolution around the sun.
On the other hand, we can’t witness Gods creating universes. We don’t see Gods forming planets, or men out of dust. We see natural processes and natural forces directing the universe. To attribute the cause of the universe to natural forces is analogous to attributing computers to man; that is, it’s closer to what we observe than what you’re proposing.
You can argue that Hawking is wrong with his conclusions, and perhaps he is. But to draw these goofy analogies does less to support your claim than if you just asserted it blindly.
It’s just disgusting what churches do their members, and it is amazing that their members have no common sense:
You might as well give your money to the jug of milk:
Christianity Thomas on 03 Nov 2010
“How much more do you Christian campaigners think you might need from us before you stop your whining?”
Islam Thomas on 02 Nov 2010
“I am pessimistic about the Islamic World. I regard Islam as one of the Great Evils in the world.” – Richard Dawkins