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Christianity Thomas on 15 Jun 2009

Pastor prays for Obama’s death

Also: Pastor Wiley Drake Calls for Imprecatory Prayer against So-Called Religious Liberty Watchdog Group

John Calvin gave the church its marching orders from Scripture. The righteous have dominion, but only through imprecatory prayer against the ungodly.

David as our Old Testament shepherd gives us many Imprecatory prayers, and can be found to be in best focus in Psalm 109. Also chapters 55, 58, 68, 69, and 83

Pray these back to God and He will answer.

Jesus in Matthew 23: 13, 15, 16, 23, 24, 27, and 29 gave us our New Testament marching orders as well.

Let us join Paul and declare anathema upon anyone” who loves not the Lord Jesus.” I Cor 16:22

Rationals Thomas on 15 Jun 2009

Parenting Beyond Belief

Christianity &Rationals Thomas on 15 Jun 2009

Understanding Atheism

An explanation of atheism:

Understanding atheism, the atheist strawman arguments and what atheism isn’t

As opposed to an explanation of a creationist:

Who goes to a creationist museum?

Christianity &Judaism Johnson on 13 Jun 2009

How to prove that the Red Sea crossing in Exodus never happened

These sites attempt to prove that the Red Sea crossing described in the Bible actually occurred:

1) The Exodus Revealed

2) The Red Sea Crossing


The sites propose that the Israelites crossed the Red Sea at this point:

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The crossing point is approximately eight miles wide.

With a little common sense, we can prove that the crossing never happened. The first site contains this quote:

After several miles Wadi Watir opens out to a large beach area, on the western coast of the Gulf of Aquaba. The only beach area along the Gulf of Aquaba, that would have been large enough to accommodate the estimated two million people and their flocks.

Two million people and their flocks are going to cross the Red Sea. Simple common sense would ask: How long might the crossing take?

Start by assuming that a disciplined Army of two million men were to cross the Red Sea. The men march in formation, 10 men abreast and each row ten feet apart. They march at a cadence of three miles per hour. This means that in one hour, a three-mile-long column of men enter the sea. If you were standing in a viewing stand watching the men march by, 15,840 men per hour would march past.

For two million men to cross the Red Sea at this pace, it would take 126 hours. Assuming they march 12 hours per day (so the men are marching 36 miles per day), it would take 10.5 days for all two million men to walk past.

The reality of the situation is that the “Israelites” would not be a disciplined army of fit young men. The “Israelites” would consist of men, women and children, young and old, firm and infirm, well and diseased. Anyone who has traveled with children knows that the pace gets cut in half or more. And the most that people with children and elderly parents might walk in a day is more likely a total of five or ten miles per day. And do not forget that there are flocks as well. A million animals or more, which would further slow the pace and lengthen the column. Then there are all of the supplies. For the crossing point is eight miles wide, and there are no wells or rest stops along the bottom of the Red Sea. Each Israelite would need to be carrying food and water for himself/herself, along with food and water for the flocks as well.

Given all of these factors slowing the pace, any single person in this ragtag band would spend one to two days in the actual Red Sea. Imagine the amount of dung and feces that would be deposited by two million people and their flocks on the base of the Red Sea.

As you can see, common sense dictates that, in reality, crossing the Red Sea with two million people and their flocks would easily take a month or more.

Now we look at the Bible, Exodus Chapter 14, verses 9 and 10:

[9] But the Egyptians pursued after them, all the horses and chariots of Pharaoh, and his horsemen, and his army, and overtook them encamping by the sea, beside Pihahiroth, before Baalzephon.

[10] And when Pharaoh drew nigh, the children of Israel lifted up their eyes, and, behold, the Egyptians marched after them; and they were sore afraid: and the children of Israel cried out unto the LORD.

Before entering the Red Sea, the Pharaoh and his army are already visible. Yet it will take a month or more for the two million people and their flocks to cross the Red Sea. The Pharaoh would therefor have no trouble stopping the Israelites.

Common sense shows so many problems with the story of Exodus. Simple logistics makes the travel of two million people and their flocks across the Red Sea impossible. It would take more than a month. 100 million gallons of water or more would be needed during that month, along with hundreds of tons of food (The “manna from heaven” does not appear until chapter 16 of Exodus). Thousands of people would die by natural attrition, and thousands of new babies would be born. Etc.

The entire story is ridiculous when subjected to common sense. Why do the religious never subject their myths to common sense?

Judaism Thomas on 13 Jun 2009

How does one explain the Jewish mindset?

Judaism is the religion of a small number of people on planet Earth. Less than 15 million according to this page. Although their influence is significant in some countries. For many, the religion defines their complete identity. Three items seen this week beg the question: what does this religion do to a member’s mindset, and why?

Item 1: Feeling The Hate In Jerusalem on the Eve of Obama’s Speech in Cairo

Item 2: A ghettoized Gaza bears striking similarities to the Warsaw ghetto (graphic)

Item 3: Mentioned in the forum: Jewish girl pranks her dad

Christianity Thomas on 13 Jun 2009

Discovery Institute Fail

The problem:

The video in question:

Christianity Thomas on 13 Jun 2009

More from Steve Harvey

Christianity Thomas on 13 Jun 2009

Religion brings out the best in people

First in a series demonstrating that those who are religious are more moral than those who are not:

1) Father-and-son pastors jailed for theft

2) Abusive priest Gannon gave boy an ‘anatomy lesson’

Rationals Thomas on 13 Jun 2009


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