It would be interesting to know wether PILAT or Jews KNEW Jsus was a god!

Jesus came to a town and made a mess in the temple where people worshipped their god, mumbling something people could not be able to understand, absolutely NOT declaring himself as a god, and not proving he was one, by any of his acts.

What would you do if some tramp entered your church, and made a mess mumbling something ununderstandable to you?

It was normal, and in accordance to the nature of crowd (not moral, and I do not aprove it generally!), that people got mad, and wanted lynching.

The priests of course wanted Jesus to be punished, to show the people how they care about the temple and about the feelings of their people.

Pilat, of course, as a good diplomat, used their yelling “crucify him”, and condemned Jesus as a concession to crowd, costing him nothing, to decrease the tension, and to show how he “cares” for occupied people.

Did ANYONE know Jesus was a god, and would anyone DARE to crucify him if he knew it? If anyone knew his “real” power, and his “ability” to fight back on dramatic way, or to punish, afterwords?

What is new in this? What special happened with crucifying Jesus, that did not happen by punishing millions of peoples in similar situations during history?

Only Jews behave this way, or you can find thousends of such examples in human history, in all nations, no exception?

I don’t expect you to. You’ll just respond with non-answers and more apologetic bullshit. I think I’m done with people who can’t debate. (No, this does not mean you win unless your point was to be so goddamn annoying the other guy becomes too bored to keep picking holes in your stupid faith.)

Something about Jesus saying you to be a fisher of men or some such crap. You know, your duty as a follower of the Christ. There is no “new to me” crap since I have clearly shown I know more about your book than you do. Perhaps it is you who is “new” to this. I would hope so that your god converts men because you are doing a piss-poor job. (Why are you here again?)

Once again, you fall back on saying I’m “hateful and angry.” This is a diversion from the fact you don’t know your bible. Stop that! You have no way to know I’m angry. (I’ll ask you again. Can you see through my monitor from who knows how far away?) Saying I’m angry does nothing to make your beliefs any more justified. In fact, if you followed your bible (OT & NT) you should be more hateful and angry then me.

You have an aversion to history as well. Much like some Muslims deny the holocaust or 9/11 you desire to be a historical revisionist. I am grateful you desire to protect the Jews but we are fine with our history. Jesus death was preordained so there is no guilt. I wish you well.

If you really want to see “historical reenvisionism,” see http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/. It’s most probable Jesus never existed at all, much less as a walking talking diety who got killed. Like I told ‘I am’, I really could care less about the Jews from 2000 years ago. But you seem really focused on it, and want to go with the “Jesus killers!” aspect and possibly apply that to today’s Jews. I couldn’t tell you why.

http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1559#comic Could someone explain this to me? Other than the long hair? I’m aware of the usual apologetic bullshit, but logically it does not make sense.

Dodging what?! It’s simple you know the story and I am just clarifying the people put Him there.. It was not for you, nothing to conclude.

I’m sorry, what? Avoiding the question counts as dodging and is just overall intellectual dishonesty. Who cares? It was the Romans who actually executed him. Personally, I don’t care about a primitive group of people from over 2000 years ago or what they did. But you and Chip sure seem to.

“1. For touching Mount Sinai Exodus 19:13?

Just clarifying.. :D
Sure, that totally makes what I said invalid. Afterall, one verse difference negates the meaning of what I just said. NOT. The fact of the matter is, you should still be stoned for touching the mountain. That is a law, which Chip said there was none, just “history and culture.” (Stoning for that (or any) offense is just ridiculous, but that’s the point I am making.)

If god and faith do not exist, that makes this website more important than you think.

If you ever watched Batman Begins, the villains in the movie release a dangerous hallucinogen into Gotham that will tear apart the city in madness. Replace hallucinogen with Christianity and Gotham with the world and take it from there.

Trying to prevent that is more useful than crochet, don’t ya think? Debating loonatics is awfully fun, though.

Also, if you want to paint atheists as living pointless lives, look at who believes what. The atheist (mildly derogative, use rationalist from now on or you should be ignored) believes he has one life to live and should make the most of it. The xian (technically means the same & is shorter), on the other hand, believes he gets a second, perfect life and is willing to make himself a martyr for it. To him, his earthly life is an obstacle to eternal life and therefore worthless after “being saved.”

You claim you do not believe in God, or Superior Creator, yet, you bash God and/or Superior Creator?

You are more lost than you realize! How can you disrespect and bash what you do not believe exists, nor understand?

Since you say that faith and God do not exist; what is the point of your website? You are and according to your belief, (or lack thereof); your site is totally pointless.

Give the world a useful website.

Don’t you crochet, or something?

That would be Exodus 19:12(NIV).

Just clarifying.. :D

Dodging what?! It’s simple you know the story and I am just clarifying the people put Him there.. It was not for you, nothing to conclude.

You have an aversion to history as well. Much like some Muslims deny the holocaust or 9/11 you desire to be a historical revisionist. I am grateful you desire to protect the Jews but we are fine with our history. Jesus death was preordained so there is no guilt. I wish you well.

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