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	<description>Exploring God and religion in our world today</description>
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		<title>By: Apollo</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=443&#038;cpage=1#comment-18477</link>
		<dc:creator>Apollo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know, that&#039;s why I specified that his fuckwaddery doesn&#039;t necessarily make him wrong. : )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, that&#8217;s why I specified that his fuckwaddery doesn&#8217;t necessarily make him wrong. : )</p>
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		<title>By: Moose</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=443&#038;cpage=1#comment-18472</link>
		<dc:creator>Moose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not an ad hominem to attack or abuse him as long as that doesn&#039;t carry your argument.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not an ad hominem to attack or abuse him as long as that doesn&#8217;t carry your argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Apollo</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=443&#038;cpage=1#comment-18470</link>
		<dc:creator>Apollo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I realize this is a bit late to come into the conversation, but oh well.
Major props to Gern and Hermes for combatting the scourge that is Darrel.

As far as I&#039;ve been able to ascertain, Darrel is either a closet Christian (he does possess a rather fondness for the literature of Christian mythology), or is under the postmodern-esque idea that there is no objective knowledge to be had because everything is based only opinion, that it&#039;s all relative, all that jazz. 

Pretty much all empirical evidence we possess for anything and everything would dispel this notion, and although we may never reach absolute truth, we certainly can learn a great deal about the world we live in, and in all practical senses, this is objective and reliable. We cannot be 100% sure the sun will rise tomorrow, but it would be rather silly to think it wouldn&#039;t. 

We have the right to free speech. It does not mean we can only voice our opinions, it means we can criticize whatever we may deem fit. The idea that you shouldn&#039;t have the right to subject whatever crackpot delusional belief to the harsh and scathing criticism is deserves it ludicrous. If I propose that there is a magical unicorn fluttering about it the sky that is all powerful, invisible, farts sunshine and lollipops, is incapable of being detected by any of our means of observation, and its existence is neither provable nor disprovable, should that be given the same value as, oh, I dunno, the theory of gravity? Should I be given a pat on the back? No, of course not. Not all ideas are created equal. Some are seriously just fucking dumb.

The term &quot;god&quot; is a bit vague, but is generally defined as being a supernatural being, which in the major monotheistic religions, is the creator of the universe, source for all moral authority, yadda yadda yadda. This being either exists or it doesn&#039;t. It&#039;s existence or nonexistence is not dependent on our own existence, or of the earth&#039;s, or whatever. He&#039;s just babbling in semantics. 

In addition, he&#039;s claimed to respect all people&#039;s beliefs, ideas, whatever, but of course gets increasingly hostile and will only tolerate his own belief being voiced, that we should all be subject to the crippling indecision he is. Oh, and also: he&#039;s a condescending fuck. Not that that would make his arguments wrong (I wouldn&#039;t wish to commit an Ad Hominem, here), it&#039;s just that he&#039;s a condescending fuck.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize this is a bit late to come into the conversation, but oh well.<br />
Major props to Gern and Hermes for combatting the scourge that is Darrel.</p>
<p>As far as I&#8217;ve been able to ascertain, Darrel is either a closet Christian (he does possess a rather fondness for the literature of Christian mythology), or is under the postmodern-esque idea that there is no objective knowledge to be had because everything is based only opinion, that it&#8217;s all relative, all that jazz. </p>
<p>Pretty much all empirical evidence we possess for anything and everything would dispel this notion, and although we may never reach absolute truth, we certainly can learn a great deal about the world we live in, and in all practical senses, this is objective and reliable. We cannot be 100% sure the sun will rise tomorrow, but it would be rather silly to think it wouldn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>We have the right to free speech. It does not mean we can only voice our opinions, it means we can criticize whatever we may deem fit. The idea that you shouldn&#8217;t have the right to subject whatever crackpot delusional belief to the harsh and scathing criticism is deserves it ludicrous. If I propose that there is a magical unicorn fluttering about it the sky that is all powerful, invisible, farts sunshine and lollipops, is incapable of being detected by any of our means of observation, and its existence is neither provable nor disprovable, should that be given the same value as, oh, I dunno, the theory of gravity? Should I be given a pat on the back? No, of course not. Not all ideas are created equal. Some are seriously just fucking dumb.</p>
<p>The term &#8220;god&#8221; is a bit vague, but is generally defined as being a supernatural being, which in the major monotheistic religions, is the creator of the universe, source for all moral authority, yadda yadda yadda. This being either exists or it doesn&#8217;t. It&#8217;s existence or nonexistence is not dependent on our own existence, or of the earth&#8217;s, or whatever. He&#8217;s just babbling in semantics. </p>
<p>In addition, he&#8217;s claimed to respect all people&#8217;s beliefs, ideas, whatever, but of course gets increasingly hostile and will only tolerate his own belief being voiced, that we should all be subject to the crippling indecision he is. Oh, and also: he&#8217;s a condescending fuck. Not that that would make his arguments wrong (I wouldn&#8217;t wish to commit an Ad Hominem, here), it&#8217;s just that he&#8217;s a condescending fuck.</p>
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		<title>By: Hermes</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=443&#038;cpage=1#comment-17317</link>
		<dc:creator>Hermes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[GotMooo, indeed.  I&#039;m a proponent of &#039;Better living through chemistry&#039; in these instances.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GotMooo, indeed.  I&#8217;m a proponent of &#8216;Better living through chemistry&#8217; in these instances.</p>
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		<title>By: GotMooo</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=443&#038;cpage=1#comment-17314</link>
		<dc:creator>GotMooo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 21:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I liked the part he said about religious moderates.  &quot;They have to accept that they are the power base for the nutters.  Without their passive support, the looneys in charge of these faiths, would just be looneys, safely locked away and medicated.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the part he said about religious moderates.  &#8220;They have to accept that they are the power base for the nutters.  Without their passive support, the looneys in charge of these faiths, would just be looneys, safely locked away and medicated.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Hermes</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=443&#038;cpage=1#comment-17304</link>
		<dc:creator>Hermes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[GotMooo: &quot;Sounds like an agenda to me.&quot;

Agreed.  I&#039;d settle for them not blowing up the planet and killing everyone.  As Marcus Brigstocke said;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY-ZrwFwLQg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GotMooo: &#8220;Sounds like an agenda to me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Agreed.  I&#8217;d settle for them not blowing up the planet and killing everyone.  As Marcus Brigstocke said;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY-ZrwFwLQg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY-ZrwFwLQg</a></p>
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		<title>By: GotMooo</title>
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		<dc:creator>GotMooo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see the bible as nothing more than written by people with an agenda.  Just like many other holy books.  Just reading the OT can certainly show the politics involved.  The Israelites were killing people for worshiping other gods and for not worshiping any.  God drowned hundreds of millions of people, which of course, went against free will.  The lord sent an angel to kill hundreds of thousands of men, I guess because they weren&#039;t on the chosen people&#039;s side.

And now the bible&#039;s vague prophecies are being called out as having merit.  I liked the part about the stars falling out of the sky, sounded like something I&#039;d like to see.

A real threat coming from religious zealots, is self-fulfilled prophecy.  Basically some of the more realistic prophecies (People dying everywhere, etc) only come true, because people believe them, and so they act on them.  But then it isn&#039;t really a prophecy, it is more like a directive.

Sounds like an agenda to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the bible as nothing more than written by people with an agenda.  Just like many other holy books.  Just reading the OT can certainly show the politics involved.  The Israelites were killing people for worshiping other gods and for not worshiping any.  God drowned hundreds of millions of people, which of course, went against free will.  The lord sent an angel to kill hundreds of thousands of men, I guess because they weren&#8217;t on the chosen people&#8217;s side.</p>
<p>And now the bible&#8217;s vague prophecies are being called out as having merit.  I liked the part about the stars falling out of the sky, sounded like something I&#8217;d like to see.</p>
<p>A real threat coming from religious zealots, is self-fulfilled prophecy.  Basically some of the more realistic prophecies (People dying everywhere, etc) only come true, because people believe them, and so they act on them.  But then it isn&#8217;t really a prophecy, it is more like a directive.</p>
<p>Sounds like an agenda to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Darrell</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=443&#038;cpage=1#comment-17224</link>
		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also Thomas you call me small minded. Small minded people are those who say god does exist and god doesnt exist!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also Thomas you call me small minded. Small minded people are those who say god does exist and god doesnt exist!!</p>
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		<title>By: Darrell</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=443&#038;cpage=1#comment-17220</link>
		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thomas, that comment I first made was supposed to be satirical humor. As this is a site having a go at religion I thought Id talk from a religious standpoint.

Im not religious Thomas, in the end I dont even care if god does or doesnt exist but as I have read the bible many times it would be nice if god did exist as the bible paints a picture of a wonderful world we could have.

I can understand why some need to believe in god to give them hope, its a good thing. The bad thing is the religious leaders that twist the word of the bible and brainwash their followers, that fact Thomas I find to be unfair to the weak minded.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas, that comment I first made was supposed to be satirical humor. As this is a site having a go at religion I thought Id talk from a religious standpoint.</p>
<p>Im not religious Thomas, in the end I dont even care if god does or doesnt exist but as I have read the bible many times it would be nice if god did exist as the bible paints a picture of a wonderful world we could have.</p>
<p>I can understand why some need to believe in god to give them hope, its a good thing. The bad thing is the religious leaders that twist the word of the bible and brainwash their followers, that fact Thomas I find to be unfair to the weak minded.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lou,
You are absolutely correct.  Russell wanted to join Moore in his attempt at common sense realism but left that when Moore began to encounter serious problems; he was to ground mathematics - but was refuted by Godel; and he wanted refute Hume but yes, admitted himself that he failed at this.  My sense was that he was driven by a incredible desire for certainty.  He admitted he loved geometry but hated that you had to begin with assumptions (axioms) not proofs.

My point here is that popular culture received the motives behind the work by Russell and the positivists but ignores the failures.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou,<br />
You are absolutely correct.  Russell wanted to join Moore in his attempt at common sense realism but left that when Moore began to encounter serious problems; he was to ground mathematics &#8211; but was refuted by Godel; and he wanted refute Hume but yes, admitted himself that he failed at this.  My sense was that he was driven by a incredible desire for certainty.  He admitted he loved geometry but hated that you had to begin with assumptions (axioms) not proofs.</p>
<p>My point here is that popular culture received the motives behind the work by Russell and the positivists but ignores the failures.</p>
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