As for the existence or non-existence of a deity — Allah or God or any of the Hindu pantheon, … — most of the religious people don’t promote themselves as the critical evidence of the deity/deities they worship existing.

(It is true that the Christians sing ‘they will know you’re a Christian by your love’, yet that song seems to be as far as it goes unless the person is naturally kind and caring to begin with.)

Because of that, and that most people are good most of the time, if they wanted to tip me to the theist side of the equation, they have to deal with facts. So far, the religious texts have some useful parts, but are not flexible enough to address reality. Instead, they promote dogma and stifle knowledge. This in itself I take as a moral intelligence test; if you ignore reality in favor of dogma, you’ve failed.

If you happen to be a Christian in the U.S. and see a Muslim extremist declaring war because “Allah” told him, you would think his religion is nuts.

If you happen to be a Muslim in another country and see a Evangelical extremist declaring war because “God” told him, you would think his religion is nuts too.

It’s like fighting fire with fire. This is so ridiculous. It is because of people like Warren why I doubt the existence of God. I know there are good Christians out there, but its not enough to convince me.

you would have survived just fine without your lord. just as millions of of ancestor worshiping Chinese people survive. just another set of baseless beliefs.

it’s an addiction. just as an alcoholic might not readily admit their condition, the religious mind is too invested in the delusion to come free from it.

it’s not that it “didn’t work out” for me. rather, it’s that I learned how to think rationally and then it did.

What are you doing about the bad actions done by Christians in the name of Christianity?

If the answer is nothing, then just admit it.

Side note: While I don’t want to claim her, Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu in her heart knew there was no Christian god. It horrified her, but she knew it. If she knew more, she might have had a better life and served others with greater compassion and not in the quest for suffering.

if all your friends were jumping off a cliff to their death would you?
again, just because something is popular does not make it right. the majority of early humans worshiped the sun. was that right? it sure was popular.
right now Beyonce is #1 on the US top 40 charts. she must be the best musician then, right? If you don’t like Beyonce, then you are wrong!
(this is precisely what your comments about the current popular god sound like to a person who has studied the history of religion – the main difference being that Beyonce is a real person.)
when a small group of people believed that the earth was spherical were they wrong simply because the majority thought it was flat?

nobody here is trying to prove the bible wrong. It does that all by itself (read it and see for yourself!). my goal is only to help people awaken from the delusion. I was once a believer myself and lived a life of fear and guilt because of it. I now see religion for what it is and live a fuller, more joyful life. it is my wish to help others make the transition from deluded thought to rational thought.

Ahem…

http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html

So, are your views 1/3rd right and 2/3rds wrong? What about the Christians you disagree with? Does this lower your %? Is that the way your religion works? Wow, as time goes on it looks like it is slowly becoming more wrong. Is this the direction you’d like to argue from?

“I don’t care what’s in your religious book. I care what you do or fail to do as human beings.”

As for ‘proving the Bible wrong’, that’s not my intent. It’s your book. If you have support *for* it, bring it on, otherwise I take it as valid as any other ancient book with supernatural aspects such as the precursor books and stories it came from such as the Egyptian book of the dead and Gilgamesh, as well as other influences and stories from Cananite, Greek, Roman, and Babylonian cultures.