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		<title>By: Lou (DFW)</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=2038&#038;cpage=1#comment-32229</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou (DFW)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 23:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[106.TheDoorKeeper said …

&quot;After reading this it is evident that the claim that God is not real has once again been established by someone that has not read the entire Bible, nor have they had any experience with what it says. The more they respond the more foolish they become.&quot;

And the more foolish theists look when they continue to use the bible as evidence of god. One must believe that the bible is the word of god in order to believe it&#039;s evidence of god. It&#039;s a form of circular reasoning. It&#039;s a logical fallacy.

&quot;For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom...&quot; In the context of theists circular reasoning, yes, I agree.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>106.TheDoorKeeper said …</p>
<p>&#8220;After reading this it is evident that the claim that God is not real has once again been established by someone that has not read the entire Bible, nor have they had any experience with what it says. The more they respond the more foolish they become.&#8221;</p>
<p>And the more foolish theists look when they continue to use the bible as evidence of god. One must believe that the bible is the word of god in order to believe it&#8217;s evidence of god. It&#8217;s a form of circular reasoning. It&#8217;s a logical fallacy.</p>
<p>&#8220;For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom&#8230;&#8221; In the context of theists circular reasoning, yes, I agree.</p>
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		<title>By: TheDoorKeeper</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=2038&#038;cpage=1#comment-32226</link>
		<dc:creator>TheDoorKeeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 20:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After reading this it is evident that the claim that God is not real has once again been established by someone that has not read the entire Bible, nor have they had any experience with what it says. The more they respond the more foolish they become.

&quot;For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.&quot; (1 Corinthians 1:18, NIV)

&quot;For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength. (1 Corinthians 1:25, NIV)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this it is evident that the claim that God is not real has once again been established by someone that has not read the entire Bible, nor have they had any experience with what it says. The more they respond the more foolish they become.</p>
<p>&#8220;For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.&#8221; (1 Corinthians 1:18, NIV)</p>
<p>&#8220;For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength. (1 Corinthians 1:25, NIV)</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=2038&#038;cpage=1#comment-31995</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Christards are screwed up in the head since the cradle and upwards.
Is Christian morality psychopathic? (Sam Harris) 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUVXEmJRGns]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christards are screwed up in the head since the cradle and upwards.<br />
Is Christian morality psychopathic? (Sam Harris)<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUVXEmJRGns" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUVXEmJRGns</a></p>
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		<title>By: Observer</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=2038&#038;cpage=1#comment-31967</link>
		<dc:creator>Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#101 Joel  Reread 100.  Your praise of 40YA is apt.

&quot;and even worse, there might be folk out there who think better of what you write and who you are than I do. And is impossible as it seems, they are an even worse lot than you.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#101 Joel  Reread 100.  Your praise of 40YA is apt.</p>
<p>&#8220;and even worse, there might be folk out there who think better of what you write and who you are than I do. And is impossible as it seems, they are an even worse lot than you.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DPK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DPK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 04:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t really understand why this concept is so hard for theists to comprehend. None of them have ever attempted to rebut it or present a counter argument, so I assume they find no fault, yet they still cling to their claim that the claims of the supernatural are &quot;beyond&quot; the realm of science.

Here&#039;s the thing... there is no doubt that there is order in the universe. By that, I mean the natural laws, ultimately the weak and strong nuclear forces, electromagnetism, and gravity which &quot;govern&quot; the universe.  They define the way matter and energy behave in the universe. If you care to call these &quot;god&quot; in the sense that Einstein, and even Sagan and Hawkings have... I don&#039;t think anyone has an issue with that. Call it what you will. It is real, and it is undeniable.
BUT... when you make claims that that &quot;creative force&quot; loves you, listens to your thoughts, answers your prayers, judges you for your thoughts and actions, sometimes suspends the natural laws in order to create miracles, demands that you worship him, requires blood sacrifices for the forgiveness of sins of your ancestors, and will provide you with an eternal life of either bliss or torment after you die, (oh yeah, and needs MONEY from you)... well now you are in the PHYSICAL realm and that IS the domain of science. 
Science is nothing more than the search for what is TRUE... nothing more. If what you call god interacts with the physical world, then there by definition will be evidence of that which can be observed and tested. You cannot claim god intrudes on the physical world and claim there will be no physical evidence of it. That&#039;s ridiculous. 
If you wish to claim a god who created the universe and then left it completely alone to unfold according to the natural laws that define it... well that god would be unprovable and un-falsifiable and also completely irrelevant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really understand why this concept is so hard for theists to comprehend. None of them have ever attempted to rebut it or present a counter argument, so I assume they find no fault, yet they still cling to their claim that the claims of the supernatural are &#8220;beyond&#8221; the realm of science.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing&#8230; there is no doubt that there is order in the universe. By that, I mean the natural laws, ultimately the weak and strong nuclear forces, electromagnetism, and gravity which &#8220;govern&#8221; the universe.  They define the way matter and energy behave in the universe. If you care to call these &#8220;god&#8221; in the sense that Einstein, and even Sagan and Hawkings have&#8230; I don&#8217;t think anyone has an issue with that. Call it what you will. It is real, and it is undeniable.<br />
BUT&#8230; when you make claims that that &#8220;creative force&#8221; loves you, listens to your thoughts, answers your prayers, judges you for your thoughts and actions, sometimes suspends the natural laws in order to create miracles, demands that you worship him, requires blood sacrifices for the forgiveness of sins of your ancestors, and will provide you with an eternal life of either bliss or torment after you die, (oh yeah, and needs MONEY from you)&#8230; well now you are in the PHYSICAL realm and that IS the domain of science.<br />
Science is nothing more than the search for what is TRUE&#8230; nothing more. If what you call god interacts with the physical world, then there by definition will be evidence of that which can be observed and tested. You cannot claim god intrudes on the physical world and claim there will be no physical evidence of it. That&#8217;s ridiculous.<br />
If you wish to claim a god who created the universe and then left it completely alone to unfold according to the natural laws that define it&#8230; well that god would be unprovable and un-falsifiable and also completely irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou (DFW)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou (DFW)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 04:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[101.Joel said …

&quot;You are correct that science has come to a point in history where it attempts to explain phenomena outside of its realm.&quot;

For example?

&quot;A blend of philosophy and science I find to be a positive as long as we keep it in its proper characterization.&quot;

Philosophy - mostly irrelevant conjecture and opinion

Science - 

1.a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws: the mathematical sciences.

2.systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation.

3.any of the branches of natural or physical science.

4.systematized knowledge in general.

5.knowledge, as of facts or principles; knowledge gained by systematic study.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>101.Joel said …</p>
<p>&#8220;You are correct that science has come to a point in history where it attempts to explain phenomena outside of its realm.&#8221;</p>
<p>For example?</p>
<p>&#8220;A blend of philosophy and science I find to be a positive as long as we keep it in its proper characterization.&#8221;</p>
<p>Philosophy &#8211; mostly irrelevant conjecture and opinion</p>
<p>Science &#8211; </p>
<p>1.a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws: the mathematical sciences.</p>
<p>2.systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation.</p>
<p>3.any of the branches of natural or physical science.</p>
<p>4.systematized knowledge in general.</p>
<p>5.knowledge, as of facts or principles; knowledge gained by systematic study.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[4o Year atheist,

Your post are always well reasoned, intelligent and without ad homenim which is why I always read them.

You are correct that science has come to a point in history where it attempts to explain phenomena outside of its realm.  Scientism in a number of cases is a fair descriptor.  However I don&#039;t think scientism to be a negative.  We only need to acknowledge the work for what it is.  A blend of philosophy and science I find to be a positive as long as we keep it in its proper characterization.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4o Year atheist,</p>
<p>Your post are always well reasoned, intelligent and without ad homenim which is why I always read them.</p>
<p>You are correct that science has come to a point in history where it attempts to explain phenomena outside of its realm.  Scientism in a number of cases is a fair descriptor.  However I don&#8217;t think scientism to be a negative.  We only need to acknowledge the work for what it is.  A blend of philosophy and science I find to be a positive as long as we keep it in its proper characterization.</p>
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		<title>By: Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#100 40YA The better part of your ran down the inside of the thigh of the poor woman who gave you birth.  You are imbecilic posturing filth, as we can see below:

&quot;First: “There is no “proof”.
This always means material, empirical proof. And no, physical proof of non-physical axioms is not expected.&quot;

This is utter nonsense.  Axioms are not proven- they are AXIOMS moron.  What pray tell is a physical axiom?  You are a revolting cretin aping intelligent and educated people. You are disgusting, and even worse, there might be folk out there who think better of what you write and who you are than I do.  And is impossible as it seems, they are an even worse lot than you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#100 40YA The better part of your ran down the inside of the thigh of the poor woman who gave you birth.  You are imbecilic posturing filth, as we can see below:</p>
<p>&#8220;First: “There is no “proof”.<br />
This always means material, empirical proof. And no, physical proof of non-physical axioms is not expected.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is utter nonsense.  Axioms are not proven- they are AXIOMS moron.  What pray tell is a physical axiom?  You are a revolting cretin aping intelligent and educated people. You are disgusting, and even worse, there might be folk out there who think better of what you write and who you are than I do.  And is impossible as it seems, they are an even worse lot than you.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou (DFW)</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=2038&#038;cpage=1#comment-31961</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou (DFW)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[93.40 year Atheist said …

&quot;Philosophical Materialism is a parasite on science – it is not science nor scientific.&quot;

Like Intelligent Design is?

&quot;The refusal to acknowledge data is irrational and cultish.&quot;

Like rejecting evolution is?

&quot;It is based on incorrect “axioms” and is speculative in a highly credulous and dogmatic fashion, eschewing intellectual humility for arrogance and locked-down intellects.&quot;

Just like religion and a belief in god is?

&quot;Science will never answer the question “How should we live?” through laboratory experimentation.&quot;

Nor should it. So what?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>93.40 year Atheist said …</p>
<p>&#8220;Philosophical Materialism is a parasite on science – it is not science nor scientific.&#8221;</p>
<p>Like Intelligent Design is?</p>
<p>&#8220;The refusal to acknowledge data is irrational and cultish.&#8221;</p>
<p>Like rejecting evolution is?</p>
<p>&#8220;It is based on incorrect “axioms” and is speculative in a highly credulous and dogmatic fashion, eschewing intellectual humility for arrogance and locked-down intellects.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just like religion and a belief in god is?</p>
<p>&#8220;Science will never answer the question “How should we live?” through laboratory experimentation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nor should it. So what?</p>
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		<title>By: DPK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DPK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the 40 year atheist probably dropped a little too much acid in the 70&#039;s, which possibly explains his reasoning ability and his conversion to idol worship. Just a bunch of garbage polished up with a community college vocabulary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the 40 year atheist probably dropped a little too much acid in the 70&#8242;s, which possibly explains his reasoning ability and his conversion to idol worship. Just a bunch of garbage polished up with a community college vocabulary.</p>
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