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		<title>By: Severin</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=2022&#038;cpage=1#comment-31675</link>
		<dc:creator>Severin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[23 Biff at al.
„Because they are huge failures and they are state atheist regimes.“

What, (the hell), are „atheist regimes“?
a) Regimes that govern in countries with predominantly atheist population 
b) Regimes that were brought to power on blood of religious masses, who massively (and VOLUNTARILY) died for their promisses (unsupported by religious masses such regimes could only brake winds, they would never come to power), but turned suppressive/dictatorial, when took power (like Russia, China, Cuba...)?
c) Regimes that were legaly ELECTED by Christian masses (Germany, Italy), and NEVER declared atheism as their guiding &quot;philosophy&quot;?
d) else

DEFINE „atheist regimes“, please, to enable us further discussion.
I have to know what we are talking about, but I do not know what &quot;atheist regimes&quot; are. 

Define the term for us, please.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>23 Biff at al.<br />
„Because they are huge failures and they are state atheist regimes.“</p>
<p>What, (the hell), are „atheist regimes“?<br />
a) Regimes that govern in countries with predominantly atheist population<br />
b) Regimes that were brought to power on blood of religious masses, who massively (and VOLUNTARILY) died for their promisses (unsupported by religious masses such regimes could only brake winds, they would never come to power), but turned suppressive/dictatorial, when took power (like Russia, China, Cuba&#8230;)?<br />
c) Regimes that were legaly ELECTED by Christian masses (Germany, Italy), and NEVER declared atheism as their guiding &#8220;philosophy&#8221;?<br />
d) else</p>
<p>DEFINE „atheist regimes“, please, to enable us further discussion.<br />
I have to know what we are talking about, but I do not know what &#8220;atheist regimes&#8221; are. </p>
<p>Define the term for us, please.</p>
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		<title>By: DPK</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=2022&#038;cpage=1#comment-31674</link>
		<dc:creator>DPK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 04:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Point is, even if all atheists were completely immoral, baby killing monsters (they&#039;re not) that still wouldn&#039;t mean that your imaginary god actually exists. So, pointing to someplace like North Korea is just a diversion to keep the discussion away from the complete irrationality of belief in gods.

The theists here seem to be saying that it is better to keep people in line by having them believe a fairy tale that to accept reality? Is that it? Well now you understand the foundation and ultimate goal of every religion... control.

But the fact is, there are problems in religious states and there are problems in secular states, and there are good things in religious states and good things in secular states. The only conclusion that can be drawn is that there is no real relation between morality and religion in a population.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point is, even if all atheists were completely immoral, baby killing monsters (they&#8217;re not) that still wouldn&#8217;t mean that your imaginary god actually exists. So, pointing to someplace like North Korea is just a diversion to keep the discussion away from the complete irrationality of belief in gods.</p>
<p>The theists here seem to be saying that it is better to keep people in line by having them believe a fairy tale that to accept reality? Is that it? Well now you understand the foundation and ultimate goal of every religion&#8230; control.</p>
<p>But the fact is, there are problems in religious states and there are problems in secular states, and there are good things in religious states and good things in secular states. The only conclusion that can be drawn is that there is no real relation between morality and religion in a population.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou (DFW)</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=2022&#038;cpage=1#comment-31670</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou (DFW)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 20:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3.Biff said …

&quot;Because they are huge failures and they are state atheist regimes. I would like to hear more about his Sweden analysis. They are not a state atheist regime and I think he attempting to imply they are.&quot;

I would like to read your evidence for your imaginary god rather than irrelevant comments about so-called &quot;state atheist regime[s]&quot; or a &quot;Sweden analysis.&quot;

Do you have any?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3.Biff said …</p>
<p>&#8220;Because they are huge failures and they are state atheist regimes. I would like to hear more about his Sweden analysis. They are not a state atheist regime and I think he attempting to imply they are.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would like to read your evidence for your imaginary god rather than irrelevant comments about so-called &#8220;state atheist regime[s]&#8221; or a &#8220;Sweden analysis.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you have any?</p>
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		<title>By: Biff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 20:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;You still failed to answer the question of why you didn’t point to the USSR, Cuba and China as examples?&quot;

Because they are huge failures and they are state atheist regimes.  I would like to hear more about his Sweden analysis.  They are not a state atheist regime and I think he attempting to imply they are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You still failed to answer the question of why you didn’t point to the USSR, Cuba and China as examples?&#8221;</p>
<p>Because they are huge failures and they are state atheist regimes.  I would like to hear more about his Sweden analysis.  They are not a state atheist regime and I think he attempting to imply they are.</p>
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		<title>By: DPK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DPK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Suh, why do you insist that Anonymous has not answered your question, when clearly he has? It is right there in black and white. How dense are you?
He did not point to China or North Korea in response to Rostam&#039;s claim because he did not need to. It takes only one example to disprove the claim that the decline of religion in America is the cause of the &quot;decline in morality, stature and greatness.&quot;
Sweden is an example of why that line of reasoning is not sound. You continuing to insist he hasn&#039;t answered you really makes you look even more foolish.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suh, why do you insist that Anonymous has not answered your question, when clearly he has? It is right there in black and white. How dense are you?<br />
He did not point to China or North Korea in response to Rostam&#8217;s claim because he did not need to. It takes only one example to disprove the claim that the decline of religion in America is the cause of the &#8220;decline in morality, stature and greatness.&#8221;<br />
Sweden is an example of why that line of reasoning is not sound. You continuing to insist he hasn&#8217;t answered you really makes you look even more foolish.</p>
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		<title>By: Severin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Severin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[18 Suh
“If you cannot provide a reasoned response I will accept you submission on this matter.“

So, as you started some points and did not provide any response to MY responses, I can accept your submission on this matter?

To show you my benevolence, I will give you one more chance:

1. Where do YOU count people who believe in some sort of &quot;universal spirit&quot;, or &quot;force&quot; that might have contributed &quot;creation&quot;, and/or might have governed natural laws, but do not follow any religion, do not pray, do not believe in afterlife, do not belong to any congregation, do not take biblical bullshits seriously, ...?
I count them as very reasonable people.
You?
Do you count them as being on YOUR side?

2. WHO brought so called „atheist regimes“ to power in Russia, China, Cuba, Germany...
Together with all members of communist/fascist parties, there were NO atheists in those countries. So called „atheists“ were present in totally negligible numbers. One in thousand or less.
WHO, then, fighted and died for „atheist“ regimes to bring them to power?

Theists did! No one else was present but theists!
THEIST BROUGHT &quot;ATHEIS REGIMES&quot; TO POWER!
If it was not sad, it would be funny!

I don&#039;t really need your submission. I would prefer you to use your brain before you say something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>18 Suh<br />
“If you cannot provide a reasoned response I will accept you submission on this matter.“</p>
<p>So, as you started some points and did not provide any response to MY responses, I can accept your submission on this matter?</p>
<p>To show you my benevolence, I will give you one more chance:</p>
<p>1. Where do YOU count people who believe in some sort of &#8220;universal spirit&#8221;, or &#8220;force&#8221; that might have contributed &#8220;creation&#8221;, and/or might have governed natural laws, but do not follow any religion, do not pray, do not believe in afterlife, do not belong to any congregation, do not take biblical bullshits seriously, &#8230;?<br />
I count them as very reasonable people.<br />
You?<br />
Do you count them as being on YOUR side?</p>
<p>2. WHO brought so called „atheist regimes“ to power in Russia, China, Cuba, Germany&#8230;<br />
Together with all members of communist/fascist parties, there were NO atheists in those countries. So called „atheists“ were present in totally negligible numbers. One in thousand or less.<br />
WHO, then, fighted and died for „atheist“ regimes to bring them to power?</p>
<p>Theists did! No one else was present but theists!<br />
THEIST BROUGHT &#8220;ATHEIS REGIMES&#8221; TO POWER!<br />
If it was not sad, it would be funny!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really need your submission. I would prefer you to use your brain before you say something.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou (DFW)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou (DFW)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[19.Suh said …

&quot;Again, back on point. If you cannot provide a reasoned response I will accept you submission on this matter.&quot;

Yes, let&#039;s get &quot;back on point.&quot; The point is that neither you nor anybody else EVER provides evidence for your imaginary god. 

If you cannot provide a reasoned response we will accept your submission on this matter (the only relevant one), that is, you don&#039;t have any evidence for god.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>19.Suh said …</p>
<p>&#8220;Again, back on point. If you cannot provide a reasoned response I will accept you submission on this matter.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, let&#8217;s get &#8220;back on point.&#8221; The point is that neither you nor anybody else EVER provides evidence for your imaginary god. </p>
<p>If you cannot provide a reasoned response we will accept your submission on this matter (the only relevant one), that is, you don&#8217;t have any evidence for god.</p>
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		<title>By: Suh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 19:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, I just read you last paragraph.  Yes, an insult in order to change the subject.  I have seen the childish tactic before.  I am embarrassed for you.  

Again, back on point.  If you cannot provide a reasoned response I will accept you submission on this matter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I just read you last paragraph.  Yes, an insult in order to change the subject.  I have seen the childish tactic before.  I am embarrassed for you.  </p>
<p>Again, back on point.  If you cannot provide a reasoned response I will accept you submission on this matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Suh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 19:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anonymous,

I didn&#039;t question Rostams&#039;s claim.  I questioned your claim.  I will invite you to read #14 again. 
 
If you cannot provide a reasoned response I will accept you submission on this matter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous,</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t question Rostams&#8217;s claim.  I questioned your claim.  I will invite you to read #14 again. </p>
<p>If you cannot provide a reasoned response I will accept you submission on this matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 02:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Suh, your question has been answered. That you didn&#039;t like it, didn&#039;t understand it, got in a tiff because it didn&#039;t let you move the goalposts, is really your problem. Severin added detail for you, again it was beyond you because it didn&#039;t provide fuel for your rant. Stick to the point, Suh, we&#039;re not here to entertain your attempts to get on your hobby horse.

Now, let&#039;s get back to you on with providing evidence for your god and do show a cause and effect for Rostam&#039;s claim. Come on, you have some evidence right? You&#039;re not just taking the word of goat herders are you?

By the way, seeing as you are so hot whining that people didn&#039;t answer questions, will you please take on Horatiio, Biff, Ben, Megabyte, YOU, and the horde of theists who NEVER produce ANY evidence for their claims. Meanwhile, do enjoy playing with your little baby Jesus dolly and your other imaginary friends.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suh, your question has been answered. That you didn&#8217;t like it, didn&#8217;t understand it, got in a tiff because it didn&#8217;t let you move the goalposts, is really your problem. Severin added detail for you, again it was beyond you because it didn&#8217;t provide fuel for your rant. Stick to the point, Suh, we&#8217;re not here to entertain your attempts to get on your hobby horse.</p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s get back to you on with providing evidence for your god and do show a cause and effect for Rostam&#8217;s claim. Come on, you have some evidence right? You&#8217;re not just taking the word of goat herders are you?</p>
<p>By the way, seeing as you are so hot whining that people didn&#8217;t answer questions, will you please take on Horatiio, Biff, Ben, Megabyte, YOU, and the horde of theists who NEVER produce ANY evidence for their claims. Meanwhile, do enjoy playing with your little baby Jesus dolly and your other imaginary friends.</p>
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