Comments on: These two things are related – they show that religion is broken

By: benson abraham

benson abraham — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:10:09 +0000

I was very much eager to see something like this. Because i am such a person or may be the only one who is currently doing his PG in biotechnology, but still believes that earth was formed in 6 days.
You may think that i am a true christian believer , but it is not so, I am a polythiest. I believe that all religions and science is from God, so that he can decieve us.
How??
1. God is all powerful, so only someone like HIM can be a threat to him.
2. Man had that potential. RECALL : when moses went to pharoah, he dropped his stick, which became a snake. But the other magicians also did the same. The only difference is that God’s power overpowered.
If mankind would have gone in the same path, maybe a day would have come when our powers would have overpowerd God’s.
Tell me what is he supposed to do to hide his power (technology) away from us? The answer is simple, somehow make him believe that he is created not in the image of God, but some kind of a monkey.
3. Time is applicable to man, but not God. We cannot change the past, but God can.
RECALL : In the wedding of cannan, jesus converted water into wine. First there was water in the jar,which is the truth. Second, after the conversion there was wine in the jar, which is the truth. Now how much you test, you can never come to know that initialy it was water in the jar. So what will you believe to be the truth?
Think!
If God change the history of earth, then in wat will you believe, the one that was intially created or that has been altered.
[In the whole bible, there is only one place, where is a mention of particular word or a spell (which we are all familiar off) which would have probably change the history of the earth.]
4. I am a polythiest, so i believe that other religions from the same God. Because if, there would have been no concept about good, bad, sin, heaven etc. no body could have understood what the apostles meant by saying Jesus has sacrificed his life to save us from our sins.
If i am wrong please correct me and follow me on bensonabraham86 in TWITTER
THANK YOU!!!
BE A FREE THINKER…….

By: DPK

DPK — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:30:12 +0000

Nice try, trying to preempt the biblical verses in Exodus, Leviticus, Luke, Colossians, etc… that demonstrate that god seems to have no real issue with owning slaves. Your request to “think outside the box” is nothing more than “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.”

Fact is, the bible does both advocate and condone the taking and keeping of slaves. The fact that it prescribes fair treatment for them is also evidence of approval. Further, where is the “thall shalt not own slaves” commandment? Even Jesus never directly admonished slaveowners.

The fact that christians later in history agreed that slavery was wrong is meaningless. Unless you argue that the bible is not in fact the inerrant word of god. The southern christian slave owners in the US regularly used the bible as defense of their right to own slaves. Don’t be foolish.

As far as murder and mysogyny, “thou shalt not kill” is given as a commandment once, but instructions from the lord to kill all manner of people for all manner of sins are given over and over and over. Yahweh himself was one of the greatest mass murderers of all time… so, really?

By: A Christian Guy

A Christian Guy — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 03:41:37 +0000

Sorry, didn’t have the time to read all the comments above this one, so if the point i’m about to bring up has already been addressed, you’ll have to excuse me.

THE BIBLE, DOES NOT ADVOCATE SLAVERY.

Somebody please, give me a verse were it says “And God said THEREFORE ALL MEN, HAVE SLAVES” (those of you who would qoute leviticus, and paul, be forewarned that is slightly perdictable, so try to think outside of the box if you can. if not, that’s fine too.) Also, it should be noted, that slavery was ENDED IN ENGLAND, BY CHRISTIANS, THE FORERUNNER OF WHICH, WAS WILLIAM WILBERFORCE. A devout Christian.

Murder. really? “Thou shalt not murder.” don’t need to give any more attention to that one.

As for Misogyny, Jesus calls men to love their wives as Jesus loves the church (christians) Jesus loves all Christians perfectly. As far as mistreating women goes, even a feminist isn’t gonna complain if a man loves a woman perfectly. No misogyny there.

By: DPK

DPK — Sun, 23 Oct 2011 14:23:06 +0000

Like Horatiio who “no longer debates” god’s existence with atheists, (however he does show up here on a regular basis to lie and make false claims.. to what end, no one knows) religious dogma NEVER stands up to questioning. Because it is not based on evidence or even logic or reason, or even common sense. It is based on superstition and legend.
Anyone following these discussions cannot help but see the trend. The theists will make some claim or assert a point of view. Others will challenge it, point out the flaws in reasoning, or provide evidence or reasoning as to why it is incorrect. The theists ignore it and change the subject. They never even answer direct questions. Why is this? The answer has to be either they don’t bother to read anything but what they write themselves, or they have no answer, so they must avoid the questions in order to avoid having their delusions exposed.
When my dog is exposed to something she wants, but knows she is not supposed to have, like a tasty sandwich left withing reach on the coffee table, she turns her back and looks in the other direction. She’s a pretty smart dog. When the theists are confronted with knowledge or understanding that their faith deems dangerous, they simply turn away from it and refuse to acknowledge it’s existence, less they be seduced. Tragic… willful ignorance.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 23 Oct 2011 07:12:56 +0000

RJ said “What leaves me “flummoxed” is the idea that they believe Jesus is in their hearts—fully witnessing their lies, arrogance and troublemaking. And that doesn’t bother them.”

Earlier, Blaze said “Christianity isn’t about religious dogmas, creeds, and rituals. It is about the relationship you have with Jesus Christ. You keep saying there is no scientific evidence for God (there is), but there is also no evidence for evolution. The lack of transitory forms in the fossil record, the Law of Biogenesis, and probabilty all tear the theory apart. It has been proven that it is IMPOSSIBLE for life to arise from non-life. There are NO transitory forms in the fossil record, only hundreds of complete forms. I would welcome any questions anyone at all anyone has for me.”

And like the typical theist ran away and hid like a coward when people actually asked questions. How typical, how sad, and how obviously deluded these fools are.

By: Observer

Observer — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:36:43 +0000

#33 RJ “What leaves me “flummoxed” is the idea that they believe Jesus is in their hearts—fully witnessing their lies, arrogance and troublemaking. ” Aptly so.

You can lead an ass to water, but you can’t make it drink.

By: RJ

RJ — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 04:24:50 +0000

RE: #31 - Observer

"Why anyone would choose to remain ignorant when presented with so many opportunities to improve their lot leaves me flummoxed."

What leaves me "flummoxed" is the idea that they believe Jesus is in their hearts—fully witnessing their lies, arrogance and troublemaking. And that doesn't bother them.

By: DPK

DPK — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:12:28 +0000

28.Anonymous said …

DPK, how did you know that your friend wasn’t a godless when she died. Like you, you turned from god. These kind of things happened to godless people like you, so don’t expect god will favour you with good things narrow minded atheists. You all godless atheists be cast to hell.

Ok first off… what the hell are you talking about?
Secondly, I thought god loves me?
Thirdly, why is your god so insecure that he has this pathological need for me to believe in him? So much so that he will “cast (me) to hell” if I simply ask that he reveal himself. I mean, if it’s soooooo important to him, why doesn’t he just “show up”?
You sound like a compassionate and loving christian…. yeah, right. Have a nice day. If there is a hell, no doubt I’ll meet you there.

By: Observer

Observer — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:52:41 +0000

#27 DPK You are correct in describing the likes of Mitch and Hor as “willfully ignorant”. Others like Biff, Ben et al. are obstinately ignorant. Why anyone would choose to remain ignorant when presented with so many opportunities to improve their lot leaves me flummoxed.

By: Lou (DFW)

Lou (DFW) — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:35:51 +0000

29.Mitch said …

“What claims? Lou made the claim. Now do you mean assumptions with you comment? Yes assumptions are made but what facts actually exist? If you can provide a few I would be glad to make some comments.”

Mitch, first of all, the “claim” I made was in reply to the claim Biff #9. I didn’t make any outright claim to begin.

Second, apparently did you not read my #15.

The only relevant claim that is part of the reason for this blog is to discuss god and religion – provide evidence for god.