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		<title>By: DPK</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=1994&#038;cpage=1#comment-31028</link>
		<dc:creator>DPK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 21:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carol... if &quot;god loves you more than you can imagine&quot; then why di dhe make you and your children homeless? Why does he leave so many of the people YOU help at the shelter out in the cold to fend for themselves?? Why do innocent children starve to death everyday. If you ask me, we could do with a bit less of his &quot;love&quot;.
Good for you for being a caring and compassionate human being. Most of the atheists I know are the same. Some are a-holes, but I&#039;m sure you know some christians who are a-holes too... you alluded as much in your post about the kind of christian you are &quot;not&quot;. What does that show? That goodness and morality are not tied to a belief in an invisible, magical being who will reward you with an eternity of happiness or condemn you to an eternity of torture if you cross him.
Same as Biff&#039;s contention that atheist &quot;sects&quot; have been guilty of mass murder and genocide... so what? Christian sects have been guilty of the same thing. I asked Biff what conclusions he drew from this. Of course, he dodged the question. But the conclusion is bad things, and good things, can be done by both believers and skeptics... so what?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carol&#8230; if &#8220;god loves you more than you can imagine&#8221; then why di dhe make you and your children homeless? Why does he leave so many of the people YOU help at the shelter out in the cold to fend for themselves?? Why do innocent children starve to death everyday. If you ask me, we could do with a bit less of his &#8220;love&#8221;.<br />
Good for you for being a caring and compassionate human being. Most of the atheists I know are the same. Some are a-holes, but I&#8217;m sure you know some christians who are a-holes too&#8230; you alluded as much in your post about the kind of christian you are &#8220;not&#8221;. What does that show? That goodness and morality are not tied to a belief in an invisible, magical being who will reward you with an eternity of happiness or condemn you to an eternity of torture if you cross him.<br />
Same as Biff&#8217;s contention that atheist &#8220;sects&#8221; have been guilty of mass murder and genocide&#8230; so what? Christian sects have been guilty of the same thing. I asked Biff what conclusions he drew from this. Of course, he dodged the question. But the conclusion is bad things, and good things, can be done by both believers and skeptics&#8230; so what?</p>
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		<title>By: Lou (DFW)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou (DFW)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 19:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[114.Carol said …

&quot;God still loves you more than you can imagine.&quot;

My pets show more love for me than does your imaginary god. If anything, god shows the opposite of love for every creature on this planet. For starters, the majority of &quot;every creature on this planet&quot; exists so that the others can eat them after they are painfully and violently killed.

&quot;He created you for a reason. Please don’t ask what the reason is because I don’t know.&quot;

Then you don&#039;t know that your imaginary god created you or anything else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>114.Carol said …</p>
<p>&#8220;God still loves you more than you can imagine.&#8221;</p>
<p>My pets show more love for me than does your imaginary god. If anything, god shows the opposite of love for every creature on this planet. For starters, the majority of &#8220;every creature on this planet&#8221; exists so that the others can eat them after they are painfully and violently killed.</p>
<p>&#8220;He created you for a reason. Please don’t ask what the reason is because I don’t know.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then you don&#8217;t know that your imaginary god created you or anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou (DFW)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou (DFW)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 18:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[116.Burebista said …

&quot;Ian that is the reason I go right for the heart if the matter. Fine, no God? Then explain origins and explain where matter originated from. 

This has been explained to you over and over again. 

First of all, atheism and creation are mutually exclusive issues. One has nothing to do with the other.

I can&#039;t explain the origin of the universe. So what? It doesn&#039;t mean there is a god who created it.

&quot;They never can and usually resort to matter has always existed or we don’t know but we will.&quot;

They NEVER CAN and NEVER will present their evidence for their imaginary god. Discussion of god is the reason for this &quot;blog,&quot; not creation of the universe. Creation is a diversion that that theists use in lieu of any evidence for their imaginary god. Rejection of a belief in god is independent of any scientific explanation for creation or lack thereof.

WHY CAN&#039;T YOU GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>116.Burebista said …</p>
<p>&#8220;Ian that is the reason I go right for the heart if the matter. Fine, no God? Then explain origins and explain where matter originated from. </p>
<p>This has been explained to you over and over again. </p>
<p>First of all, atheism and creation are mutually exclusive issues. One has nothing to do with the other.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t explain the origin of the universe. So what? It doesn&#8217;t mean there is a god who created it.</p>
<p>&#8220;They never can and usually resort to matter has always existed or we don’t know but we will.&#8221;</p>
<p>They NEVER CAN and NEVER will present their evidence for their imaginary god. Discussion of god is the reason for this &#8220;blog,&#8221; not creation of the universe. Creation is a diversion that that theists use in lieu of any evidence for their imaginary god. Rejection of a belief in god is independent of any scientific explanation for creation or lack thereof.</p>
<p>WHY CAN&#8217;T YOU GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL?</p>
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		<title>By: Severin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Severin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 18:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[116 Burebista
&quot;There are a host of questions they cannot answer with “time and chance diddit”.&quot;

Who mentioned &quot;chance&quot;?
NOTHING happens &quot;by chance&quot;, but by natural laws, and THAT was what we (atheists) claimed.
No one ever mentioned &quot;chance&quot;.

Is it lying, or blindness (you see only what you like to see)? 
It is not nice to lie!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>116 Burebista<br />
&#8220;There are a host of questions they cannot answer with “time and chance diddit”.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who mentioned &#8220;chance&#8221;?<br />
NOTHING happens &#8220;by chance&#8221;, but by natural laws, and THAT was what we (atheists) claimed.<br />
No one ever mentioned &#8220;chance&#8221;.</p>
<p>Is it lying, or blindness (you see only what you like to see)?<br />
It is not nice to lie!</p>
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		<title>By: Severin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Severin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carol,

I am a good man. I am doing same as you do and more.
I don&#039;t hate anyone, I don&#039;t offend anyone, I don&#039;t steal or kill, I help people a lot...

Yet, I do not believe in god.

Conclusion: being good or bad person does not depend on one&#039;s faith, but on many other things, including genes.

I can&#039;t love my neighbor, because the son of a bitch frequently beats his dog, and makes me sorry for the poor animal.
However, I don&#039;t hate him either, and would never harm him.

Is something wrong with me?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carol,</p>
<p>I am a good man. I am doing same as you do and more.<br />
I don&#8217;t hate anyone, I don&#8217;t offend anyone, I don&#8217;t steal or kill, I help people a lot&#8230;</p>
<p>Yet, I do not believe in god.</p>
<p>Conclusion: being good or bad person does not depend on one&#8217;s faith, but on many other things, including genes.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t love my neighbor, because the son of a bitch frequently beats his dog, and makes me sorry for the poor animal.<br />
However, I don&#8217;t hate him either, and would never harm him.</p>
<p>Is something wrong with me?</p>
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		<title>By: Severin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Severin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 18:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[116 Burebista
&quot;Then explain origins and explain where matter originated from.&quot;

We did it for you so many times. 
You never explain anything, you only claim things.
To show my benevolence, let me repeat it for you once again:

Matter has NO origins. It exists WITHOUT being crated. It was NOT &quot;popped&quot; from &quot;nothing&quot; by a god or by anything else. It is &quot;self-existing&quot;. No origin, no creation, just matter/energy that EXISTS and changes its form according to built-in natural laws.

Now you:
a) Give us some good arguments why would this logic be wrong (logic only)
b) Where does god originate from?
c) If god does not need to originate from somewhere, why would it be necessary for matter/energy?

WHY?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>116 Burebista<br />
&#8220;Then explain origins and explain where matter originated from.&#8221;</p>
<p>We did it for you so many times.<br />
You never explain anything, you only claim things.<br />
To show my benevolence, let me repeat it for you once again:</p>
<p>Matter has NO origins. It exists WITHOUT being crated. It was NOT &#8220;popped&#8221; from &#8220;nothing&#8221; by a god or by anything else. It is &#8220;self-existing&#8221;. No origin, no creation, just matter/energy that EXISTS and changes its form according to built-in natural laws.</p>
<p>Now you:<br />
a) Give us some good arguments why would this logic be wrong (logic only)<br />
b) Where does god originate from?<br />
c) If god does not need to originate from somewhere, why would it be necessary for matter/energy?</p>
<p>WHY?</p>
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		<title>By: RJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>RJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE: #112, Ian
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;This lack of belief is just a cowardice way out of attempting to sit in the corner and claim we believe nothing. Those who believe in nothing are intellectual weaklings.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So, just for clarity, you&#039;re stating that those who cannot make a move or think a thought in life without the assistance of an invisible being are strong and intelligent, and those that make it through life on their own intellect and strength are weak.

Did I get that right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: #112, Ian</p>
<blockquote><p><i>&#8220;This lack of belief is just a cowardice way out of attempting to sit in the corner and claim we believe nothing. Those who believe in nothing are intellectual weaklings.&#8221;</i></p></blockquote>
<p>So, just for clarity, you&#8217;re stating that those who cannot make a move or think a thought in life without the assistance of an invisible being are strong and intelligent, and those that make it through life on their own intellect and strength are weak.</p>
<p>Did I get that right?</p>
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		<title>By: RJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>RJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE: #114, Carol

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;You wanted proof as to “how to love your neighbor”?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, Carol, that (#69) was aimed specifically at Horatiio and I wasn&#039;t asking for &quot;proof&quot;, I was asking for examples of how &lt;i&gt;he personally&lt;/i&gt; &#039;loved thy neighbor&#039; (which of course still remains unaddressed—surprise surprise). And naturally you&#039;re not suggesting that an atheist is incapable of such a kindly philosophy because it demands a blind dedication to an invisible being, right? But thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: #114, Carol</p>
<blockquote><p><i>&#8220;You wanted proof as to “how to love your neighbor”?&#8221;</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, Carol, that (#69) was aimed specifically at Horatiio and I wasn&#8217;t asking for &#8220;proof&#8221;, I was asking for examples of how <i>he personally</i> &#8216;loved thy neighbor&#8217; (which of course still remains unaddressed—surprise surprise). And naturally you&#8217;re not suggesting that an atheist is incapable of such a kindly philosophy because it demands a blind dedication to an invisible being, right? But thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Burebista</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burebista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carol,

A very nice post.  Thanks for sharing it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carol,</p>
<p>A very nice post.  Thanks for sharing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Burebista</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burebista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;This lack of belief is just a cowardice way out of attempting to sit in the corner and claim we believe nothing.&#039;

Ian that is the reason I go right for the heart if the matter.  Fine, no God?  Then explain origins and explain where matter originated from.  They never can and usually resort to matter has always existed or we don&#039;t know but we will.  

The we can ask &quot;do you believe Socrates existed&quot; and then show them the faith of their statement when they acknowledge he did exist.  There are a host of questions they cannot answer with &quot;time and chance diddit&quot;.

The evidence is there for them as Antony Flew acknowledged (especially in DNA) but they refuse to follow it.  In the end, they must be willing to be healed if they are to be healed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;This lack of belief is just a cowardice way out of attempting to sit in the corner and claim we believe nothing.&#8217;</p>
<p>Ian that is the reason I go right for the heart if the matter.  Fine, no God?  Then explain origins and explain where matter originated from.  They never can and usually resort to matter has always existed or we don&#8217;t know but we will.  </p>
<p>The we can ask &#8220;do you believe Socrates existed&#8221; and then show them the faith of their statement when they acknowledge he did exist.  There are a host of questions they cannot answer with &#8220;time and chance diddit&#8221;.</p>
<p>The evidence is there for them as Antony Flew acknowledged (especially in DNA) but they refuse to follow it.  In the end, they must be willing to be healed if they are to be healed.</p>
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