Comments on: How religious delusion destroys real-world thinking

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 09:15:32 +0000

Republicans like Rick Perry are skeptical of everything the government does—except when it executes people "Either you believe in government or you don't. The current field of Republican contenders for president are hard at work to prove they don't. The best government, they insist, will leave you alone to repair your own ruptured kidney while your neighbors bring you casseroles and cigarettes. In recent weeks, leading Republicans have made plain they don't believe in government-run health care (lo, even unto death). They don't believe in inoculating children again HPV (lo, even unto death). They don't believe in government-run disaster relief (ditto, re death), the minimum wage, Social Security, or the Federal Reserve. There is nothing, it seems—from protecting civil rights to safeguarding the environment—that big government bureaucracies can't foul up. But there is one exception: killing people. These same Republicans who are dubious of government's ability to do anything right have an apparently bottomless faith in the capital-justice system. Everything is broken in America, they claim—except the machinery of death."

By: DPK

DPK — Sun, 25 Sep 2011 22:46:23 +0000

There is no end to people who don’t comprehend the simple fact that it is not necessary to “disprove god” anymore that it is necessary to “disprove fairies”, “disprove flying carpets and genies” or any other type nonsense. The person making the claim is required to demonstrate that it is true. As Lou stated, you cannot prove a negative. You can’t prove there are no invisible space monkeys from Pluto living in my garage. That doesn’t mean they are real. Especially when one is confronted with the magical powers typically associated with a god, and one who is also said to require that we believe through faith. In other words, one who is defined by the property of being unprovable, and who, for some reason, insists on remaining mysterious and unknowable.
Ask yourself a simple question. If god created us and loves us and WANTS us to know him…. why are their so many DIFFERENT gods around? Why doesn’t the real god make himself known? Why does he allow so much conflict and strife to occur over which of his personae is the correct one? Why doesn’t he just…. show up?
The simple answer is… because he is not real. He is a figment of your imagination. Doesn’t exist… make believe… a fable, a fairy tale, a story… how many more ways can we say it.
Now, if you have any real evidence to show that you are right and I am wrong… we are all waiting.
D

By: Lou (DFW)

Lou (DFW) — Sun, 25 Sep 2011 21:51:42 +0000

146.A said …

“Blah blah blah, just words. If you believe there is no God prove it and we will believe you.”

Do you believe in leprechauns? If not, then prove that they don’t exist. If you can’t, then they must exist, correct? Of course not. Not even you are dumb enough to think that, are you? So if you aren’t that dumb, then you can understand that it’s not required to “prove” that leprechauns don’t exist in order to understand that they don’t. It’s up to the person who asserts that they exist to “prove it.” Likewise for god. So, either prove god, admit that god is nothing but a belief for which no evidence exists, or admit that god doesn’t exist.

Which is it?

By: A

Sun, 25 Sep 2011 19:20:03 +0000

Severin

Blah blah blah, just words. If you believe there is no God prove it and we will believe you.

By: Severin

Severin — Sun, 25 Sep 2011 09:44:23 +0000

138 40 yA

Blah, blah, blah…

Why are you wasting words?
If you believe there is a god and want someone to accept your believe, (or “first cause”, or whatever you call it), provide some evidences for your claim.

That is ALL you need to do to make us believe you.

By: MrQ

MrQ — Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:07:43 +0000

Xenon 3138,
Can you explain what 40ya said in post #138?
Do you personally know who 40ya or anyone else posting on this blog is?

By: Lou (DFW)

Lou (DFW) — Fri, 23 Sep 2011 19:57:19 +0000

142.Xenon said …

“You must be a logician since you logic is always sound. I think because the logic is so sound is why those who hold to the theory of no deity…”

Of course you think his logic is sound, because you also think there is a “theory of no deity.”

Hint for Xenon, there is no such theory anymore than there is a “theory of no Volcano God.” There is a “theory” (irrational belief) for god. But there’s no more evidence for that theory than for the Volcano God “theory.” The only evidence for your god is your imagination.

“…must change the subject to superficial veneers to make any argument at all or resort to name-calling.”

Nobody has changed the subject. We’re still waiting for theists to present their evidence for their imaginary god.

By: Xenon

Xenon — Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:31:20 +0000

@138 40 Y-A

You must be a logician since you logic is always sound. I think because the logic is so sound is why those who hold to the theory of no deity must change the subject to superficial veneers to make any argument at all or resort to name-calling.

By: DPK

DPK — Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:06:48 +0000

Thank you Lou… you beat me to it.
40Year, your verbal diarrhea does not hide the flaw of your reasoning. By your assertion, everything someone postulates should be accepted as truth until proven false. How ridiculous!
This argument can be ended quickly by simply providing some actual evidence that the god you claim is real actually exists. That doesn’t mean a gaps argument, as in “atheists can’t explain the origin of life, therefore god is real”. That’s really beneath you, and you know it. So fess up and admit that the reason religion is founded exclusively on FAITH is because that’s all there is to found it on.

By: MrQ

MrQ — Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:26:55 +0000

Hor @129

Right on, MrHor.

Synthetic life
Taj Mahal
God

All have man as the creator, all are man-made.