This implies that jesus christ is god.You also said go read the bible.I then figured it would be good to point out that they are not the same.Read john 17:3-10-This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. 4 I have glorified you on the earth, having finished the work you have given me to do. 5 So now you, Father, glorify me alongside yourself with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was. 6 “I have made your name manifest to the men you gave me out of the world. They were yours, and you gave them to me, and they have observed your word. 7 They have now come to know that all the things you gave me are from you; 8 because the sayings that you gave me I have given to them, and they have received them and have certainly come to know that I came out as your representative, and they have believed that you sent me forth. 9 I make request concerning them; I make request, not concerning the world, but concerning those you have given me; because they are yours, 10 and all my things are yours and yours are mine, and I have been glorified among them.
Please reread verse five jesus said he was alongside god before the aerth was .Do you need more

P.S.nony mouse said we are up against the rails lol, we are not -i’m willing to prove god exists any time and day-m BTW IM NOT ONE OF THOSE”CRAZY” BELIVERS you are the crazy ones

We can know nothing about the origin of life (many links): http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/07/we_can_know_nothing_about_the.php

Again, consider what the application of the scientific method has contributed to our understanding in a short space of time. Compare how our knowledge has expanded and how our lives have been changed. Now compare that to how much religion has contributed to the advancement of our understanding of reality (nothing) and how Christianity, for example, has stayed fixed to the understanding and superstitions of a pre-scientific age of two thousand years ago. Ludicrous appeals to “context” aside, religion as dogma remains set in stone.

Of course for being the cause of war, intolerance, the proliferation of hate, bigotry, discrimination, misogyny, ignorance, and discord, religion is still a top-scorer and certainly has science beat hands-down.

As above, the believers are desperate and up against the rails. It seems that they don’t want answers but to drive the conversation in the directions of the gaps in the scientific account and, so, they can continue to delude themselves that god did something. If there isn’t a gap, then they ask for more detailed answers and at some point they exclaim “you can’t explain THAT” and up pops god. Of course, they have no proof nor explanation as how they know which of the thousands of gods man has believed in did it which is where they dig themselves into a hole.

We also see the double standard of proof that the theists employ in order to maintain the illusion that their god is somehow relevant to discussion at hand. Contrast the theist challenge: ‘How did DNA originate using the natural processes you calim “diddit”’ (sic) with the intellectually vacuous theist answer: “I don’t NEED to understand how he did it at this point to know these qualities must exist in order to propagate them in creation. It is evident.” – For the believer, faith and ignorance are qualities that are preferred over evidence. Of course seeing as they have exactly zero evidence for their god, then there’s not really much they could say.

Speaking of holes, it’s ironic to see the believers getting so desperate to to find gaps in which to insert a god that they end up making a case for deism which is an argument against the existence of their own god.

So, come on believers, we are still waiting. You have several questions to answer. Let’s see you answer them in the same level of detail as you expect for those from science. Let’s see some proof not circular logic, assertions, or contradictory gibberish. Accept that the burden of proof belongs on you to prove your point. If you can’t do this without appeals to faith, magic, mysticism, other ways of knowing, and other dodges, then accept that you are wrong and come join us in reality and the 21st century.

“I am one who believes they do know the truth. They just suppress the reality.”

That’s a much more believable scenario.

What’s more likely – knowing the truth that god created the universe and that he promises an eternal life in heaven, yet denying that reality for no good reason while being scorned, ostracized, and outcast for denying it? Or knowing the truth that there is no god who created the universe without an eternal life in heaven, yet denying that reality while being socially accepted for it?

DUH! Obviously, it’s the latter. There’s no good reason for the former scenario to be plausible. But unfortunately there’s also the reality of truly delusional theists:

“The handful of true believers are the ones strapping on explosive vests, bombing abortion clinics and picketing funerals of fallen soldiers.”

Yet they ask “…why do they argue? Why the blog? If they don’t know why are they so passionate?”

REALLY?! ARGUE?! BLOG?! Hell yeah, let’s blow-up something instead. Let’s murder in the name of an imaginary god. Stupid theists.

I am one who believes they do know the truth. They just suppress the reality. Not necessarily my opinion but I have listened to former believers share this truth. The handful of true believers are the ones strapping on explosive vests, bombing abortion clinics and picketing funerals of fallen soldiers. The rest know in their hearts that it’s all a fairy tale, but they continue the facade because of social pressure.

“As long as they continue to admit they don’t know I have no issues with their arguments.”

“Well, good point Horatio.”

Good point? It’s not even a point, much less a good one. His poorly formed sentence is merely an acknowledgement, almost a concession.

“That begs the question why do they argue? Why the blog? If they don’t know why are they so passionate?”

Because you are wrong. And you are wrong to force delusion upon society.

“I am one who believes they do know. They just suppress the reality.”

That’s nothing but gibberish. If god is reality, then neither he, you, nor anyone else has presented any evidence of said reality. Therefore, it can’t be suppressed. Even if it was reality, it wouldn’t be suppressed – hey everybody, I’m suppressing the reality of gravity.

“Not necessarily my opinion but I have listened to former atheist share this truth.”

Truth? Somebody shared with you that he knew for a fact that god created the universe, but “suppress[ed] the reality?” How did this person get past suppressing reality? Your comment is complete and utter b.s. You’re inventing fiction as you post comments. But, what’s new with your delusion?

I debate here, among other things, to learn something.
I am always ready to accept evidences and to consider good arguments and logic.

I alway give answers to posed questions.
You never do, you only cackle: goddidit, goddidit, goddidit, without any explanation…How, the hell, can I know you are right if you give only your words to support yur claims.

Stop cackling and DO something to support your claims.
Tell us, for example your opinion about:

WHY did god create universe?
HOW did god create universe?
WHEN was it?

Well, good point Horatio. That begs the question why do they argue? Why the blog? If they don’t know why are they so passionate?

I am one who believes they do know. They just suppress the reality. Not necessarily my opinion but I have listened to former atheist share this truth.