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		<title>By: TGHO</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=1838&#038;cpage=1#comment-26981</link>
		<dc:creator>TGHO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 07:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@22 Revelation,

Makes sense to believe in a divine being? LOL, no, actually it makes sense to *not* believe in the supernatural. It&#039;s very clear, from the mountains - the exabytes - of data we have, that there is no god, no demons, no faeries, nothing at all like that.

Of course evolution is destroying people&#039;s faith. That&#039;s because it&#039;s a valid explanation for how humans arose and requires no divine guidance. A simple scientific explanation where previously people had to look to the supernatural for an explanation. You may as well claim that the theory of gravity, or of thunder, is destroying people&#039;s faith.

Evolution is most definitely not &quot;something out of nothing&quot;. And the tree of life, from bacteria to complex mammals is elegant, simple and very easy to understand, not at all complex.

Barren women were helped by *science* (IVF, fertility drugs, etc.), not by some imaginary, non-existent being.

You don&#039;t get a choice in what I believe. And furthermore, you don&#039;t get a choice about the scientific explanation of how humanity evolved. That&#039;s determined by the data - and all humans, you, me, your family, my family, evolved from an ape-like ancestor. If that &quot;insults&quot; you, you need to grow up and expand your mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@22 Revelation,</p>
<p>Makes sense to believe in a divine being? LOL, no, actually it makes sense to *not* believe in the supernatural. It&#8217;s very clear, from the mountains &#8211; the exabytes &#8211; of data we have, that there is no god, no demons, no faeries, nothing at all like that.</p>
<p>Of course evolution is destroying people&#8217;s faith. That&#8217;s because it&#8217;s a valid explanation for how humans arose and requires no divine guidance. A simple scientific explanation where previously people had to look to the supernatural for an explanation. You may as well claim that the theory of gravity, or of thunder, is destroying people&#8217;s faith.</p>
<p>Evolution is most definitely not &#8220;something out of nothing&#8221;. And the tree of life, from bacteria to complex mammals is elegant, simple and very easy to understand, not at all complex.</p>
<p>Barren women were helped by *science* (IVF, fertility drugs, etc.), not by some imaginary, non-existent being.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t get a choice in what I believe. And furthermore, you don&#8217;t get a choice about the scientific explanation of how humanity evolved. That&#8217;s determined by the data &#8211; and all humans, you, me, your family, my family, evolved from an ape-like ancestor. If that &#8220;insults&#8221; you, you need to grow up and expand your mind.</p>
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		<title>By: sonofapreacherman</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonofapreacherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 06:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ 22.Revelation
Ramble much? Feeling threatened? Yawn...

The pseudointellectual assertions of Rostam aren&#039;t much better.

I&#039;m not here to attack others, but at least now there are two of you who know exactly how I feel about the silly empty words you&#039;ve posted herein.

Professor Bob Rowthorn is well-versed in mathematics and economics but not so much in genetics. His article, in my opinion, is purely speculative, yet the conclusions he has drawn from statistical inference are nonetheless somewhat interesting in a mildly scary way.

LifeWay Christian Research is an extension of the Southern Baptist Convention much like the baculum is an extension of the male Mephitis mephitis. I have serious questions about the accuracy, objectivity, veracity and validity of the survey which they conducted. I can&#039;t help but wonder if their motive for publishing the results of this survey was determined before or after the results were tabulated and/or manufactured.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 22.Revelation<br />
Ramble much? Feeling threatened? Yawn&#8230;</p>
<p>The pseudointellectual assertions of Rostam aren&#8217;t much better.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not here to attack others, but at least now there are two of you who know exactly how I feel about the silly empty words you&#8217;ve posted herein.</p>
<p>Professor Bob Rowthorn is well-versed in mathematics and economics but not so much in genetics. His article, in my opinion, is purely speculative, yet the conclusions he has drawn from statistical inference are nonetheless somewhat interesting in a mildly scary way.</p>
<p>LifeWay Christian Research is an extension of the Southern Baptist Convention much like the baculum is an extension of the male Mephitis mephitis. I have serious questions about the accuracy, objectivity, veracity and validity of the survey which they conducted. I can&#8217;t help but wonder if their motive for publishing the results of this survey was determined before or after the results were tabulated and/or manufactured.</p>
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		<title>By: Revelation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Revelation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 03:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[YOU ALL WHO ARE ATHIEST ARE COMPLETE IDIOTS! It is soooooo evident that God is real!!!

It makes sense to believe a divine being created the world. but that EVOLUTION CRAP is destroying people&#039;s faith.

What your saying for EVOLUTION is something came out of nothing.
There was nothing, then a big bang, then something was created. Then life evolved from soup to rocks, to bacteria, then changed from animals to humans.? confusing much?
YOU are the ones that are delusional. I know GOD exists by the plain miracles every day.

what about barren women?
for years they couldn&#039;t get pregnant and now some have kids. What? evolution decided to let give birth? No, it was God.

YES Christianity, like every other religion has its flaws and I&#039;m not saying Christianity is the way to go. But believing that that my ancestors came from monkeys is insulting to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOU ALL WHO ARE ATHIEST ARE COMPLETE IDIOTS! It is soooooo evident that God is real!!!</p>
<p>It makes sense to believe a divine being created the world. but that EVOLUTION CRAP is destroying people&#8217;s faith.</p>
<p>What your saying for EVOLUTION is something came out of nothing.<br />
There was nothing, then a big bang, then something was created. Then life evolved from soup to rocks, to bacteria, then changed from animals to humans.? confusing much?<br />
YOU are the ones that are delusional. I know GOD exists by the plain miracles every day.</p>
<p>what about barren women?<br />
for years they couldn&#8217;t get pregnant and now some have kids. What? evolution decided to let give birth? No, it was God.</p>
<p>YES Christianity, like every other religion has its flaws and I&#8217;m not saying Christianity is the way to go. But believing that that my ancestors came from monkeys is insulting to me.</p>
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		<title>By: BJE</title>
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		<dc:creator>BJE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 04:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rostam said … 

&quot;Because the genes probably have similar mistakes, the mistakes pair together and result in deformities in the children.&quot;

hmmmm.....so.......  :

You understand how genes work, but then would denounce evolution?

Just like christians are so quick to spew parts of the bible and say others are not relevant. 

Christians are so narrow minded its dangerous to humanity.

Remember christians.....at one time you were quick to persecute people who were trying to move science forward...

&quot;BURN HIM AT THE STAKE.....HE CLAIMS THE WORLD IS ROUND!!!&quot;


I will admit there are christians that are devoted to mainly good, but.....

CHRISTIANITY HAS BEEN 99% BAD FOR HUMANITY


If jesus would still be living he would not approve of how christians acted throughout the centuries.

&quot;SHES A WITCH...!!!!&quot;

&quot;HE BELIEVES IN EVOLUTION by NATURAL SELECTION...BLASPHEMY!!&quot; 

I didnt know brainwashing a group of people is so easy!!

Tsk Tsk, Christians be ashamed of your obvious delusion

The mormon religion is laughable, islam is laughable, christianity is laughable]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rostam said … </p>
<p>&#8220;Because the genes probably have similar mistakes, the mistakes pair together and result in deformities in the children.&#8221;</p>
<p>hmmmm&#8230;..so&#8230;&#8230;.  :</p>
<p>You understand how genes work, but then would denounce evolution?</p>
<p>Just like christians are so quick to spew parts of the bible and say others are not relevant. </p>
<p>Christians are so narrow minded its dangerous to humanity.</p>
<p>Remember christians&#8230;..at one time you were quick to persecute people who were trying to move science forward&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;BURN HIM AT THE STAKE&#8230;..HE CLAIMS THE WORLD IS ROUND!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>I will admit there are christians that are devoted to mainly good, but&#8230;..</p>
<p>CHRISTIANITY HAS BEEN 99% BAD FOR HUMANITY</p>
<p>If jesus would still be living he would not approve of how christians acted throughout the centuries.</p>
<p>&#8220;SHES A WITCH&#8230;!!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;HE BELIEVES IN EVOLUTION by NATURAL SELECTION&#8230;BLASPHEMY!!&#8221; </p>
<p>I didnt know brainwashing a group of people is so easy!!</p>
<p>Tsk Tsk, Christians be ashamed of your obvious delusion</p>
<p>The mormon religion is laughable, islam is laughable, christianity is laughable</p>
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		<title>By: JohnnyP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnnyP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 12:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Puff The Magic Universe&quot;.

Haha, that actually made me chuckle. Cute play on words, there.

However, Hor &amp; Pals, as has been pointed out already, it&#039;s you who believe god waved his arms and Poof! The universe magically/supernaturally appeared.

Call the kettle black much?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Puff The Magic Universe&#8221;.</p>
<p>Haha, that actually made me chuckle. Cute play on words, there.</p>
<p>However, Hor &amp; Pals, as has been pointed out already, it&#8217;s you who believe god waved his arms and Poof! The universe magically/supernaturally appeared.</p>
<p>Call the kettle black much?</p>
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		<title>By: VeridicusX</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=1838&#038;cpage=1#comment-26424</link>
		<dc:creator>VeridicusX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 12:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Boz #18

&lt;i&gt;&quot;... why is a Ford Fusion washing up on shore illogical?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Are you retarded? Do you and Horatio think that cars replicate with changes and have populations that are shaped or wiped out by their environment?

You have the full power of the Internet. An informational resource that could only have been dreamt of by our forbears.
Or ask a high school child who has just completed an introduction to evolution. 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;... And atheist buy into this.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

No they don&#039;t. Your thoughts on this are another example of religious mendaciousness.

I can&#039;t blame you really for failing to grasp the concepts of honesty and integrity. That, I suppose, is a consequence of being taught that &quot;faith&quot; is a virtue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Boz #18</p>
<p><i>&#8220;&#8230; why is a Ford Fusion washing up on shore illogical?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Are you retarded? Do you and Horatio think that cars replicate with changes and have populations that are shaped or wiped out by their environment?</p>
<p>You have the full power of the Internet. An informational resource that could only have been dreamt of by our forbears.<br />
Or ask a high school child who has just completed an introduction to evolution. </p>
<p><i>&#8220;&#8230; And atheist buy into this.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>No they don&#8217;t. Your thoughts on this are another example of religious mendaciousness.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t blame you really for failing to grasp the concepts of honesty and integrity. That, I suppose, is a consequence of being taught that &#8220;faith&#8221; is a virtue.</p>
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		<title>By: Boz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 22:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Logically of course, if the universe has always existed AND life created itself from the primordial ooze and if we evolved from the first life into what we are today, why is a Ford Fusion washing up on shore illogical?

Let look at it.  A cell is much more complex and evolved from elements found on earth.  As well, the Fusion much less complex also formed from elements from our earth.  Conclusion based on atheist logic, the Fusion washing up on shore is quite likely.  All we need is the magic wand of time.

And atheist buy into this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Logically of course, if the universe has always existed AND life created itself from the primordial ooze and if we evolved from the first life into what we are today, why is a Ford Fusion washing up on shore illogical?</p>
<p>Let look at it.  A cell is much more complex and evolved from elements found on earth.  As well, the Fusion much less complex also formed from elements from our earth.  Conclusion based on atheist logic, the Fusion washing up on shore is quite likely.  All we need is the magic wand of time.</p>
<p>And atheist buy into this.</p>
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		<title>By: VeridicusX</title>
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		<dc:creator>VeridicusX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 22:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Horatio #16

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Thats a quite a bit of faith you have there V.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&quot;I bet you believe Ford Fusions wash up on the beech too.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Facts, Logic and Reason, you ought to try them some time.

If there are any flaws in the fact-based reasoning (such as any statements of faith), please point them out.
You can&#039;t can you?

&lt;i&gt;&quot;You are a Puff the Magic Universe guy for sure.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Even though I&#039;ve explained in #15 that it&#039;s you who likely believes in superstitious idiocy not me, you come back with this lie - the same one that I&#039;ve shown to be religious nonsense and logically impossible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Horatio #16</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Thats a quite a bit of faith you have there V.&#8221;</i><br />
<i>&#8220;I bet you believe Ford Fusions wash up on the beech too.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Facts, Logic and Reason, you ought to try them some time.</p>
<p>If there are any flaws in the fact-based reasoning (such as any statements of faith), please point them out.<br />
You can&#8217;t can you?</p>
<p><i>&#8220;You are a Puff the Magic Universe guy for sure.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Even though I&#8217;ve explained in #15 that it&#8217;s you who likely believes in superstitious idiocy not me, you come back with this lie &#8211; the same one that I&#8217;ve shown to be religious nonsense and logically impossible.</p>
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		<title>By: Horatio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horatio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thats a quite a bit of faith you have there V.  You are a Puff the Magic Universe guy for sure.

I bet you believe Ford Fusions wash up on the beech too.  No such thing a creator for a universe you certainly do not need one as simple as a Ford.

I took the liberty of applying for religious protection on the behalf of Commiteeism.  You need the protection.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats a quite a bit of faith you have there V.  You are a Puff the Magic Universe guy for sure.</p>
<p>I bet you believe Ford Fusions wash up on the beech too.  No such thing a creator for a universe you certainly do not need one as simple as a Ford.</p>
<p>I took the liberty of applying for religious protection on the behalf of Commiteeism.  You need the protection.</p>
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		<title>By: VeridicusX</title>
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		<dc:creator>VeridicusX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 15:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Horatio #9

&lt;i&gt;&quot;... but at least you now recognize the silliness of Puff the Magic Universe.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;Puff the Magic Universe&quot; is what theists believe, not atheists!

Christians believe that God created the universe &lt;i&gt;ex nihilo&lt;/i&gt;, &quot;out of nothing&quot;. 

The &quot;nothing&quot; of the superstitious is not the &quot;nothing&quot; of physicists (or Zen philosophers), which is the mathematical concept of zero - the sum of equal amounts of positive and negative something.

The nothing of the superstitious is, well, absence. God puffed the universe into existence out of &quot;total absence&quot;.

Anyway, you are laboring under a misapprehension.

Einstein and experiment have shown that &quot;time&quot; is a property of our universe.
To imagine that atheists are saying that the universe came about &quot;ex nihilo&quot; is an error - that&#039;s a theistic concept.
It implies that there was some &quot;nihilo&quot; before time out of which the universe puffed.

But, there&#039;s no such thing as &quot;before time&quot;.

Since time is a property of the universe there&#039;s no such thing as &quot;a time&quot; when there was a &lt;i&gt;religious nothing&lt;/i&gt; then the universe popped into being.

Causation is temporal. An effect is the consequence of a cause. (Consequence means &quot;with sequence&quot;).

Whether or not the universe is temporally finite:

&lt;b&gt;·&lt;/b&gt; There is no time when the universe did not exist.
&lt;b&gt;·&lt;/b&gt; The universe has existed for all time. Therefore,...
&lt;b&gt;·&lt;/b&gt; Causation is a property of the universe. And...
&lt;b&gt;·&lt;/b&gt; There is no &lt;i&gt;&quot;before the universe&quot;&lt;/i&gt; when a cause could happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Horatio #9</p>
<p><i>&#8220;&#8230; but at least you now recognize the silliness of Puff the Magic Universe.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>&#8220;Puff the Magic Universe&#8221; is what theists believe, not atheists!</p>
<p>Christians believe that God created the universe <i>ex nihilo</i>, &#8220;out of nothing&#8221;. </p>
<p>The &#8220;nothing&#8221; of the superstitious is not the &#8220;nothing&#8221; of physicists (or Zen philosophers), which is the mathematical concept of zero &#8211; the sum of equal amounts of positive and negative something.</p>
<p>The nothing of the superstitious is, well, absence. God puffed the universe into existence out of &#8220;total absence&#8221;.</p>
<p>Anyway, you are laboring under a misapprehension.</p>
<p>Einstein and experiment have shown that &#8220;time&#8221; is a property of our universe.<br />
To imagine that atheists are saying that the universe came about &#8220;ex nihilo&#8221; is an error &#8211; that&#8217;s a theistic concept.<br />
It implies that there was some &#8220;nihilo&#8221; before time out of which the universe puffed.</p>
<p>But, there&#8217;s no such thing as &#8220;before time&#8221;.</p>
<p>Since time is a property of the universe there&#8217;s no such thing as &#8220;a time&#8221; when there was a <i>religious nothing</i> then the universe popped into being.</p>
<p>Causation is temporal. An effect is the consequence of a cause. (Consequence means &#8220;with sequence&#8221;).</p>
<p>Whether or not the universe is temporally finite:</p>
<p><b>·</b> There is no time when the universe did not exist.<br />
<b>·</b> The universe has existed for all time. Therefore,&#8230;<br />
<b>·</b> Causation is a property of the universe. And&#8230;<br />
<b>·</b> There is no <i>&#8220;before the universe&#8221;</i> when a cause could happen.</p>
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