Comments on: A fundamental problem with the Christian belief in prayer

By: LupeLIVINGSTON29

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By: Severin

Severin — Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:57:57 +0000

81 Horatio
“The Trolls aka Busters of the world can whine and cry from their mom’s basement but it will not change the facts.’“

The Trolls aka Busters of the world oposed the idea world was not flat, for centuries. Then they oposed the ide earth is orbiting sun, for centuries.
The trolls aka busters DENIED every single achievment clever people exposed as their opinion oposite to opinion of Trolls aka Busters.
They (Trolls aka Busters) had NO ideas of their own, but would not like other people to see it, so they killed people who oposed them.

Today, when T. aka B. Have no more power to kill, they come to a flower and say:
It is SO complicated! It is beyond MY understanding! It MUST be that it is beyond ANYONE’S understanding. But it EXISTS, it is here, so it MUST be that it was created.
It MUST be so, because I am too stupid (and too lazy) to even consider any other explanation.

I would not believe in god even if the very first man who landed on mars reported he found an used condom there.
I would search for more logical explanations.

Trolls aka Busters would probably say: AHA!!!

Then, they would probably start to think: was it, perhaps, adultery?

By: Severin

Severin — Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:11:23 +0000

77 Tom
“Volta followed up on this work in the 1800s. Not Einstein. My…and I too have faith in the laws of physics. So what?”

I thought energy from fission, not electricity as natural phenomenon. I am sorry if my poor English caused misunderstanding.

So what?
Would you trust Volta or Einstein if they talked electricity (fission) in a way Bible (and other religion books and writings) exposes their “truths”?
For example:
I am your Volta (Eisnstein), and I say there is electricity (atom energy). You must obey my word and worship my electricity. My word is the truth, it is for ever, and who doubts, does sin against me (us).
Proofs? How dare you?
Those people rolled their sleeves up and brought some eveidences for what they claimed.
Evidences that were clear, could be tested, were repeatable in tests, were supported by some math and logic, were interconnected to other theories….

I am a sceptic. I do not buy every bullshit someone claims.
Whether we talk god, Socrates or electricity, I need proofs to accept it.
No one ever proved that god exists, gods do not fit my understanding of reality, it does not fit logic I learned, it does not fit my intuition either, and does not fit science I know something aout and scientific methods I also know something about, so, sorry, but I do not believe there is god.
ESPECIALLY I can’t accept gods supported by idiocies written in the Bible, Kuran, Egyptian writings…
About my opinion about some “essential higher force” (that, if exists, has nothing to do with Bible or Kuran), please see my post #75.

By: JohnnyP

JohnnyP — Mon, 21 Feb 2011 03:29:14 +0000

RE: #81-85

"Blah blah blah blah BLAH Jesus said blah BLAH BLAH blah blah blah call upon the Lord blah blah BLAH fear of GOD blah blah BLAH BLAH blah blah hell fire brimstone Blah blah blah blah praise his holy name BLAH BLAH blah blah blah dirty heathens will get yours Blah blah blah blah BLAH BLAH"

Boy, for the number of xians trolling here when do they find time to praise the lord? Nothing much happening in the xian forums these days? Tammy, I do believe you've got it all in reverse. The christbots all come here and mindlessly repeat the same old same old (not quite as...uh...garrulously as you, though, dear) in order to convince themselves of their own idiotic affirmations, 'cause they must know by now everyone else just hears "blah blah blah BLAH".

By: Tammy

Tammy — Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:56:36 +0000

Furthermore, do you guys seriously believe that everyone who calls themselves Christian are actually true believers? theyre not. Jesus even said it, many will say Lord Lord and I will say to them depart from me, I never knew you. There you have it, right there, now I dont suspect any of you non believers ever call upon the Lord now do you? therefore he was speaking of people who claim to be believers, but they are not. As far as your stupid so called funny little inuendo on prayer,,, prayer isnt about asking for yourself, thats Vanity, thats self centered Vanity, its about asking God to give people the Spirit of belief, there is nothing on this earth worth praying about, but another persons spirit, so take your little funnies there and understand the situation before you go trying to make jokes on it, because she you dont understand the situation, then the joke is simply on you

By: Tammy

Tammy — Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:41:10 +0000

And why wont God hear Ampute’s. Because oh wise ones, the bible says this generation will be looking for signs and the only sign they will get, is the sign of Jonah, 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of a whale. As Jesus Christ was 3 days in the heart of the earth. No more sign folks, he gave all the signs then and still they didnt believe him. So why would he waste his time, if he gave you signs you would think of some other lame excuses to not believe, he already knows that. Therefore, the last sign you will get is Jesus cominig in the clouds with a double edged sword and you will be begging the mountains to fall on you.

By: Tammy

Tammy — Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:34:47 +0000

Subject on giving everything you have to the poor…. first of all,,,, now that you have gone through scripture that you dont believe in and decided EVERYONE should give up all they have and give it away,, now go through the bible and figure out just exactly what POOR IS,,,, because POOR is most the people in the world okay? Just because one has the internet, and a roof over their head and live payday to payday, ummmm is a far cry from RICH okay? Stand next to bill gates and tell me how rich you think you are. Scripture says the man who dont work, dont eat. Therefore the man that works has every right to put a roof over their head food in their bellies and support the God given family they have. Do you seriously believe God expects us all to live on the street? Youre grasping at straws folks. Lazarus was a VERY Rich man and God (Jesus) told Lazarus to sell all that he has and follow him. Jesus point was, you are putting money before me. How many Christians if face to face with Jesus would drop everything they are doing in a heartbeat and follow him if he were still here in the flesh, I know I would in a heartbeat. but he is here in spirit and until his return we are to work, not sit there and bum off of others, Jesus made it clear, the apostals preached by day and worked by night, hmmm what do you suppose they were working for ???? for fun? no they were working so they could support themselves and not have to live off of other people. Okay so we give all we have to the poor, then we are poor living off the street, then a rich believer gives us everything they have, and now they are poor and we are rich, then we give it all to another poor person and they are rich and we are poor again, and on and on and on,,, are you serious? do you seriously believe this is what Jesus meant? you guys are really grasping at some hollow straws here, post some more of your rediculous ideas of the God you neither know or believe in, he will always come out on top, with the correct answer of your foolishness. ASK God to show you the TRUTH,, he isnt hiding it from you, you are hiding it from yourself.

By: Tammy

Tammy — Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:25:55 +0000

by the way, there is no such thing as an Atheist folks, not until the claiming Atheist can prove without a doubt how everything began, but they cannot, they dont know how things began, therefore, that leave the option of a “Creator” as a way it could have begun. There is nothing to fear of God folks. He will certainly ignore you if you want him to, he isnt going to barge in on your life. But you will face him one day, and you wont be able to speak at that point. So speak while you still can. Stop trying to theive away from people the only thing on this horrible earth that is still good and right. Seems to me, if you spend as much time on the garbage going on in this world, then you are spending trying to disprove a good and wonderful and perfect God, you might actually get something positive done in the world. But no, you want to try and take the only good thing people have hope left in, and ruin it. that makes you evil, that makes you a lover of hate, a lover of corruption on earth, you are not part of the solution you are part of the entire problem, but no matter what you have to say, no matter how many peoples faith you destroy (which by the way true faith cannot be touched so you only get the wannna be’s anyway) you will still answer to God, and not one person, who is in agreement with you now, will be standing next to you then. Its not a vote session, its a interview of your life session, and nobody will be there to stand up for you, unless you call on Jesus Christ to be Lord of your LIfe, then and ONLY then, will he introduce himself to you on a very personal basis, that only YOU will have the miracle of knowing he is ALIVE and well, and he is waiting for you to knock on that door of salvation. Dont be lead astray folks, and dont follow the swine over the cliff, they have nothing good for you in mind, if they did, they wouldnt be trying to steal away the only HOPE left in this world. SAD,,, you people are very SAD. I feel sorry for you, living in a hateful world with absolutely no reason, no meaning, and nothing to look forward to but DEATH.. how fun for you!

By: Tammy

Tammy — Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:17:33 +0000

This is so funny to me. Jesus said it best, in thinking they are wise they become fools. And that would describe you people. Dont you know how scared you look spending so much of your time tryin to disprove a God you dont believe in ? that right there tells me just how SCARED you are. lol I think its hilarious. I dont believe in Ghosts, therefore, why would I spend any of my time in the world trying to disprove them? I could care less if others believe in Ghosts, its not hurting me that they do, but I dont so why would I waste my time studying something I dont even believe in? The fact that you do, proves, that you dont know if God is real or not and the only one you are trying to prove something to here is yourself. How Ironic that you would believe everything on earth, in life, happened by accident, thats harder to believe, than the creator. Yes, in thinking you are so wise you have become fools, but you look wise to your own eyes, you have been blinded by foolishness and you cannot even see just how foolish you have become. Get on your knee’s and beg God to forgive you before its to late.

By: Horatio

Horatio — Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:00:08 +0000

“Could there be indirect confirmation for God (creation, writings, etc) much like we have for Socrates that would validate his likelihood?”

Naturally Mitch. Never mind Buster, he fancies himself a smart-feller. The Trolls aka Busters of the world can whine and cry from their mom’s basement but it will not change the facts. God is the default position and until man can somehow prove that design, structure, information can come out of chaos or ex-nihilo it will remain the default position.

Dilemma solved!