REPENT AND YOU WILL BE SAVED BY HIS HOLINESS

What I ment was:
I work A LOT to realize them, and do not wait someone to realize them for me….

If you came to a debate with other people who do not share your opinion, with a claim that god exists, you obviously HAD some intention. For example to convince atheists that god exists.
In that case, you HAVE to offer proofs, it is expected in a debate, it is a decent, a kind, a fair way of debating.

If you don’t want to debate, don’t! But if you like it, it would be fair to offer some evidences for what you claim.
Otherwise debaters will just neglect what you say. No one will take you seriously.
In that case you can expect some mocking, of cours, but not for long: debaters will just stop answering you after they see you are only CLAIMING something, without making efforts to support it.

What hope? It seems that your biggest problem is fear of dying and going to „nothingness“.
Some people solved that problem WITHOUT assistance of bestial Chriistian/Muslim/Egyptian/Aztec… gods, by just believing in reincarnation.

I solved that problem long ago, by accepting the fact that I will die one day, and never live again. My „I“ will dissapear, will never exist again.
I am AWARE of that, and, consequently, I have NO FEARS AT ALL. My HOPES are turned to LIFE, BUT I hardly work to realize them, I do not just WAIT them to be realized by someone, including gods.
My only concern is to live this only life I have a decent, responsible and joyful way, and I am doing it.
I enjoy my life! No drugs, no booze, no raping (YES consent sex in any available „quantity“!), no robbing, no killing…a LOT of working, learning, traveling, enjoying in my family, other people (not all), enjoying the universe surrounding me, from a single flower, to galaxies…fulfilling my CURIOSITY, my thirst for knowledge…

Then I will die.
If there is some „paradise“, it must be a boring place compared to what I experiance in my life. WHAT, the hell, should I expect more then LIVE for some time?

No one is trying to prove there is no god.
As described in the BIble/Kuran (etc), God does not fit anything we know and experiance, but I would never go to formal disproving of his existance, because it is logically impossible.
Do you believe in mermaids? Can YOU support your disbelieve in mermaids with some formal logic and PROVE me they do not exist?

One who claims something POSITIVE (i.e.: god exists, mermaids exist, it is possible to brake an atom and get electricity, earth is a globe…) has to prove his claims to make people trust him/her.
So, we do not claim there is no god, we just DO NOT BELIEVE IT.
All we can cautiously say is: gods, as described in any religion, do not fit anything, therefore the probability they exist is minor (I would say: none, but only for myself).

I swear I am open to proofs, but you never provided any.
When I was 5 or 6 I could hardly understand the earth was not flat. Such a claim was in collision with my experiance.
Then people persuaded me that was the fact with some evidences I was able to understand and to accept, without any math, shemistry, physics…
I accepted those evidences (ship on the horizon) and ACCEPTED some new knowledge AGAINST the efforts of my brain to refuse something that was not so obvious.
Later, I accepted Newton,…because he GAVE clear evidences for his theories, evidences that ANYONE was able to understand and to CHECK, including me.
Sttill later, I accepted Einstein and Darwin, for the same reasons: people gave clear evidences that everyone could check easily. Moreover, their theories WORK in practice whch everyone, without much education, can see.

You prove your god real, and I will immediatelly start to believe in him.

I never said i will ACCEPT him, but that is another story.

Please have in mind that existance of universe ONLY proves that universe exists, nothing more and nothing less. It does not include „automatically“ a creator, at least I don’t see the connection.

Some other proofs?

Did animals pray for it?
Does a lizard pray god for a new tail?

Strane god! He gives animals new livers and tails without praying and disobey prayers of his own “children”.

I am pining for answers, not for Deit.
HE asked us (me and AT):
Deit #18 and #22:
“So I ask again. Do you guys mean to really admit you have no answer for what truth is?”

We admited we had no answer, and kindly asked HIM to give us answers we missed.

Then, as typical for theists, he run away in some mouse hole, peeping out and waiting a moment to come back on scene with some bombastic questions he is not able to answer himself.

I don’t need gods, even in case they are real (which I don’t believe without evidences).
If some of them exists and needs me for some reason, I am available to be “discovered”.

If he ever discovers me (it MUST be personal contact, I do not trust priests), and informs me he was the one from the Bible who ordered massacres of children and pregnant women, killed the whole population of earth for NOTHING, then killed his own son, also for nothing, I will reject him, probably also spit on him.
I am ready to spend eternity in hell if necessary rather than live according to moral rules of such a monster.
If I accept HIS moral rules, I would suffer in paradise much more from my conscience, then from any torturing Mr. God could invent for me in his hell for not accepting him.

And, again: a god of “love” who punishes people with eternal torturing ONLY because he missed to inform them about his existance in a proper way?
Revenge is NOT i my nature, why would I accept his “morality of revenge”, the only “morality” he knows, and live (and die) with it?

Exactly how would you go about proving a negative to me? I could understand if you had something great to share that made a real difference. In your philosophy, how will my life or eternity change? If I am wrong how will that impact my eternity? No God and No Hope doesn’t seem to be a draw. Count me in if you can pull it off.

I have no need to prove God to you. I have already proven you are closed and I would never waste my time on a blog going through such a activity. I take it seriously. That’s up to you. I only help those who genuinely seek God. Those who do not will never find him. God resists the proud but reveals himself to the humble.

Your philosophy is pretty grim. Mine is God is good.