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		<title>By: dxt</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Severin, 

 This whole shpeel is honestly, shameful. Whats even worse, is you wasted every one of your God given breaths while you wrote this nonsense. This shameful explanation does not even attempt to reasonably answer any crucial questions as to how Christianity got its driving force on the heels of heavy persecution. This is joke, matter of fact, its worse than a joke and I honestly feel sorry for you if you believe this severin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Severin, </p>
<p> This whole shpeel is honestly, shameful. Whats even worse, is you wasted every one of your God given breaths while you wrote this nonsense. This shameful explanation does not even attempt to reasonably answer any crucial questions as to how Christianity got its driving force on the heels of heavy persecution. This is joke, matter of fact, its worse than a joke and I honestly feel sorry for you if you believe this severin.</p>
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		<title>By: Severin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Severin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 20:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[168 dxt
I forgot: your god (YHWH) was even married!

You are worshiping a barbaric, polytheistic god!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>168 dxt<br />
I forgot: your god (YHWH) was even married!</p>
<p>You are worshiping a barbaric, polytheistic god!</p>
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		<title>By: Severin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Severin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 20:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[168 dxt
To conclude my „short history of Christianity“:
The books of the Hebrew Bible are a compendium of myths, legends, folktales, sagas, history and much else, almost all of them by anonymous authors.
As the OT = Hebrew Bible, what is it? „A compendium of JEWISH (and pre-Jewish!) myths, legends, folktales...written by anonimous JEWISH authors.

JHWH, who became the „only“ Jewish &quot;mono-god&quot;, later also „the only“ Christian „mono-tri-god“ was in fact nothing more but one of 70 (seventy!) sons of  El, one of many Jewish (and pre-Jewish) gods, from the previous, polytheistic period!
Your god, the „creator of universe“, had a father! His father was a &quot;barbaric&quot; god from a polytheistic religion!

It was obvious, as it happened in all human societies, through the entire history of human race, and in ALL parts of the world (and is happening today), that gods were CREATED by humans, according to their (humans&#039;) needs. If circumstances demanded to make changes in religions, mighty rulers did so, and relatively quickly: they „stole“ gods, they „combined“ them, they „canceled“ them, they (humans!) CREATED RELIGIONS.  
Monotheism became predominant in Jewish lands as late (for Jews), and as early (for Christians, who did not exist at that time!), as  from 8th to 5th century B.C., because it WAS CONVENIANT (more practical, more profitable, better) FOR RULERS OF Jewish lands. If they decided polytheism were better for their position, then, you would probably worship El, or some of his sons, today (which, in fact, you do, because YHWH, your actual god, was identified with El, later, only by „decision“ of some highly positined priest, or group of priests and kings).

Christianity started as „internal“ Jewish matter! Does „Christianity“ beginns with Jesus? No way! It was only NAMED by Christ!  Who baptized Jesus, and who, the hell, was a „Christian“ before Christ himself?
In „boiling“ Judea, many groups separated from the „mainstream“ politcal body and „mainstream“ religion, and started to „preach“ different things. John was one of them (one of many!), but not clever enough to keep the main position for long. One way or another, Jesus (or someone named &quot;Jesus&quot; later!) took him the leading position (probably by preaching things that people liked to hear), and became the „god“ through further legends, which were also modeled by mighty MEN, according to THEIR interests. 

Christianity is the same BS as religions in China, Japan, Pre-Columbian America, pre-christian Europe....
Gods were repalced by other gods according to interests of rulers.

WHY do we have so many &quot;christian&quot; religions today (and not much less muslim ones, too)? The reason is the same as always: interests of groups of humans!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>168 dxt<br />
To conclude my „short history of Christianity“:<br />
The books of the Hebrew Bible are a compendium of myths, legends, folktales, sagas, history and much else, almost all of them by anonymous authors.<br />
As the OT = Hebrew Bible, what is it? „A compendium of JEWISH (and pre-Jewish!) myths, legends, folktales&#8230;written by anonimous JEWISH authors.</p>
<p>JHWH, who became the „only“ Jewish &#8220;mono-god&#8221;, later also „the only“ Christian „mono-tri-god“ was in fact nothing more but one of 70 (seventy!) sons of  El, one of many Jewish (and pre-Jewish) gods, from the previous, polytheistic period!<br />
Your god, the „creator of universe“, had a father! His father was a &#8220;barbaric&#8221; god from a polytheistic religion!</p>
<p>It was obvious, as it happened in all human societies, through the entire history of human race, and in ALL parts of the world (and is happening today), that gods were CREATED by humans, according to their (humans&#8217;) needs. If circumstances demanded to make changes in religions, mighty rulers did so, and relatively quickly: they „stole“ gods, they „combined“ them, they „canceled“ them, they (humans!) CREATED RELIGIONS.<br />
Monotheism became predominant in Jewish lands as late (for Jews), and as early (for Christians, who did not exist at that time!), as  from 8th to 5th century B.C., because it WAS CONVENIANT (more practical, more profitable, better) FOR RULERS OF Jewish lands. If they decided polytheism were better for their position, then, you would probably worship El, or some of his sons, today (which, in fact, you do, because YHWH, your actual god, was identified with El, later, only by „decision“ of some highly positined priest, or group of priests and kings).</p>
<p>Christianity started as „internal“ Jewish matter! Does „Christianity“ beginns with Jesus? No way! It was only NAMED by Christ!  Who baptized Jesus, and who, the hell, was a „Christian“ before Christ himself?<br />
In „boiling“ Judea, many groups separated from the „mainstream“ politcal body and „mainstream“ religion, and started to „preach“ different things. John was one of them (one of many!), but not clever enough to keep the main position for long. One way or another, Jesus (or someone named &#8220;Jesus&#8221; later!) took him the leading position (probably by preaching things that people liked to hear), and became the „god“ through further legends, which were also modeled by mighty MEN, according to THEIR interests. </p>
<p>Christianity is the same BS as religions in China, Japan, Pre-Columbian America, pre-christian Europe&#8230;.<br />
Gods were repalced by other gods according to interests of rulers.</p>
<p>WHY do we have so many &#8220;christian&#8221; religions today (and not much less muslim ones, too)? The reason is the same as always: interests of groups of humans!</p>
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		<title>By: Severin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Severin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 08:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[168 dxt, cont.
&quot;Yahweh is cast in the role of the Divine King ruling over all the other deities, as in Psalm 29:2, where the &quot;sons of God&quot; are called upon to worship Yahweh; and as Ezekiel 8–10 suggests, the Temple itself became Yahweh&#039;s palace, populated by those in his retinue.&quot;
“Because many of the passages involved appear in works associated with either Deuteronomy, the Deuteronomistic History (Joshua through Kings) or in Jeremiah, most recent scholarly treatments have suggested that a Deuteronomistic movement of this period developed the idea of monotheism as a response to the religious issues of the time.”
“The second major factor was the rise of the neo-Assyrian and neo-Babylonian empires. As long as Israel was, from its own perspective, part of a community of similar small nations, it made sense to see the Israelite pantheon on par with the other nations, each one with its own patron god – the picture described with Deuteronomy 32:8–9. The assumption behind this worldview was that each nation was as powerful as its patron god. However, the neo-Assyrian conquest of the northern kingdom in ca. 722 challenged this, for if the neo-Assyrian empire were so powerful, so must be its god; and conversely, if Israel could be conquered (and later Judah, c. 586), it implied that Yahweh in turn was a minor divinity. The crisis was met by separating the heavenly power and earthly kingdoms. Even though Assyria and Babylon were so powerful, the new monotheistic thinking in Israel reasoned, this did not mean that the god of Israel and Judah was weak. Assyria had not succeeded because of the power of its god Marduk; it was Yahweh who was using Assyria to punish and purify the one nation which Yahweh had chosen.”
“By the post-Exilic period, full monotheism had emerged: Yahweh was the sole God, not just of Israel, but of the whole world. If the nations were tools of Yahweh, then the new king who would come to redeem Israel might not be a Judean as taught in older literature (e.g. Psalm 2). Now, even a foreigner such as Cyrus the Persian could serve as the Lord&#039;s anointed (Isaiah 44:28, 45:1). One god stood behind all the world&#039;s history.”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>168 dxt, cont.<br />
&#8220;Yahweh is cast in the role of the Divine King ruling over all the other deities, as in Psalm 29:2, where the &#8220;sons of God&#8221; are called upon to worship Yahweh; and as Ezekiel 8–10 suggests, the Temple itself became Yahweh&#8217;s palace, populated by those in his retinue.&#8221;<br />
“Because many of the passages involved appear in works associated with either Deuteronomy, the Deuteronomistic History (Joshua through Kings) or in Jeremiah, most recent scholarly treatments have suggested that a Deuteronomistic movement of this period developed the idea of monotheism as a response to the religious issues of the time.”<br />
“The second major factor was the rise of the neo-Assyrian and neo-Babylonian empires. As long as Israel was, from its own perspective, part of a community of similar small nations, it made sense to see the Israelite pantheon on par with the other nations, each one with its own patron god – the picture described with Deuteronomy 32:8–9. The assumption behind this worldview was that each nation was as powerful as its patron god. However, the neo-Assyrian conquest of the northern kingdom in ca. 722 challenged this, for if the neo-Assyrian empire were so powerful, so must be its god; and conversely, if Israel could be conquered (and later Judah, c. 586), it implied that Yahweh in turn was a minor divinity. The crisis was met by separating the heavenly power and earthly kingdoms. Even though Assyria and Babylon were so powerful, the new monotheistic thinking in Israel reasoned, this did not mean that the god of Israel and Judah was weak. Assyria had not succeeded because of the power of its god Marduk; it was Yahweh who was using Assyria to punish and purify the one nation which Yahweh had chosen.”<br />
“By the post-Exilic period, full monotheism had emerged: Yahweh was the sole God, not just of Israel, but of the whole world. If the nations were tools of Yahweh, then the new king who would come to redeem Israel might not be a Judean as taught in older literature (e.g. Psalm 2). Now, even a foreigner such as Cyrus the Persian could serve as the Lord&#8217;s anointed (Isaiah 44:28, 45:1). One god stood behind all the world&#8217;s history.”</p>
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		<title>By: Severin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Severin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 08:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[168 dxt
“This is an example of a fantastically unreasonable assertion to the beginnings of Christianity.“

What is less „fantastic“ are facts, which you never say:
„The sources for the history of ancient Israel and Judah can be broadly divided into the biblical narrative (essentially the Hebrew Bible, but also Deuterocanonical and non-biblical works for the later period) and the archaeological record.”
“The books of the Hebrew bible are a compendium of myths, legends, folktales, sagas, history and much else, almost all of them by anonymous authors, &quot;the whole being woven into a composite, highly complex literary fabric&quot; around the 2nd century BCE.”
“The religion of the earliest Israelites, c.1200 BCE, as suggested by some authors, was based on the cult of the ancestors and the worship of family gods, especially El and Baal. This allegedly changed with the emergence of the monarchy in Israel: the king allegedly promoted his own family god, Yahweh, as the god of the kingdom, and the Exodus narrative as a national charter myth. The destruction of the Israelite kingdom c.721 BCE meant the end of both the Israelite state religion and of family religion; their place was taken by a national religion and personal devotion. The key group in this transformation were the Deuteronomists, an intellectual and religious movement based in the prophetic tradition of Israel. Moving to Judah after the fall of Samaria, they introduced sweeping reforms in Jerusalem which declared illicit the forms of traditional religion, centralised worship in a single national Temple, and promoted worship of one god through the Law.[61]
“In the earliest stage, Yahweh was one of the seventy children of El, each of whom was the patron deity of one of the seventy nations. This is illustrated by the Dead Sea Scrolls and Septuagint texts of Deuteronomy 32:8–9, in which El, as the head of the divine assembly, gives each member of the divine family a nation of his own, &quot;according to the number of the divine sons&quot;: Israel is the portion of Yahweh.”
“Between the eighth to the sixth centuries El became identified with Yahweh, Yahweh-El became the husband of the goddess Asherah, and the other gods and the divine messengers gradually became mere expressions of Yahweh&#039;s power.”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>168 dxt<br />
“This is an example of a fantastically unreasonable assertion to the beginnings of Christianity.“</p>
<p>What is less „fantastic“ are facts, which you never say:<br />
„The sources for the history of ancient Israel and Judah can be broadly divided into the biblical narrative (essentially the Hebrew Bible, but also Deuterocanonical and non-biblical works for the later period) and the archaeological record.”<br />
“The books of the Hebrew bible are a compendium of myths, legends, folktales, sagas, history and much else, almost all of them by anonymous authors, &#8220;the whole being woven into a composite, highly complex literary fabric&#8221; around the 2nd century BCE.”<br />
“The religion of the earliest Israelites, c.1200 BCE, as suggested by some authors, was based on the cult of the ancestors and the worship of family gods, especially El and Baal. This allegedly changed with the emergence of the monarchy in Israel: the king allegedly promoted his own family god, Yahweh, as the god of the kingdom, and the Exodus narrative as a national charter myth. The destruction of the Israelite kingdom c.721 BCE meant the end of both the Israelite state religion and of family religion; their place was taken by a national religion and personal devotion. The key group in this transformation were the Deuteronomists, an intellectual and religious movement based in the prophetic tradition of Israel. Moving to Judah after the fall of Samaria, they introduced sweeping reforms in Jerusalem which declared illicit the forms of traditional religion, centralised worship in a single national Temple, and promoted worship of one god through the Law.[61]<br />
“In the earliest stage, Yahweh was one of the seventy children of El, each of whom was the patron deity of one of the seventy nations. This is illustrated by the Dead Sea Scrolls and Septuagint texts of Deuteronomy 32:8–9, in which El, as the head of the divine assembly, gives each member of the divine family a nation of his own, &#8220;according to the number of the divine sons&#8221;: Israel is the portion of Yahweh.”<br />
“Between the eighth to the sixth centuries El became identified with Yahweh, Yahweh-El became the husband of the goddess Asherah, and the other gods and the divine messengers gradually became mere expressions of Yahweh&#8217;s power.”</p>
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		<title>By: dxt</title>
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		<dc:creator>dxt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 00:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HY, </p>
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		<title>By: dxt</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#157 HY,

 &quot;Denying what facts? What “facts” are out there that show Jesus wasn’t a fable? I think you are backed in a corner now and that is the only response you have.&quot;

 Too much to list on a blog. Here is a link to a scholarly and reasonable look at the evidence.

http://www.reasonablefaith.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&amp;id=5207


 &quot;And you still haven’t answered why God created light and plants before the sun. Dodging? Or are you trying to say it doesn’t say that even though it does?&quot;

 I assure you HY, im not dodging the question. I just would like to know how you have studied the Bible that you come to your &quot;fable&quot; conclusion, thats all. You tell me how it is since you know all about the Scriptures.

&quot;You do agree that there are many, many fables, myths, tall tales, however you want to call them, out there. How can you honestly think that the bible isn’t just another one of those?&quot;

 I agree there are alot of fables out there. The Bible is not one of them. It is a fantastically unreasonable idea to assert that.

&quot;Christianity could have been created by man for many reasons. It was 2000 years ago, so who knows the exact reason. But history has proven that everything you think you know isn’t accurate. For example, Christopher Columbus discovering America. Not true. There are many other examples in history that are inaccurate, and that is just the last couple hundred years. Now just imagine a few thousand years ago. The time of kings and queens being rich ruling over the poor. Here is one example of how the bible could have been created: The poor were killing and stealing from the rich people in control. Something had to be done so one king sent someone to find someone from another land to bring them back and pay them to preach about made up stories to try to get the poor to stop doing bad things. This preacher told made up stories and maybe even threw in some real people and places to mix in with it. Those stories got written down by either those who believed this preacher or maybe even the preacher wrote them down himself either on his own or the king told him to. This worked and eventually other kingdoms/towns got wind of this and did something similar. And that is how the “prophets” formed. All the writings eventually got put together into one by an editor years later. And bam, you have the start of a religion. This is just one of many scenarios that could have taken place back then.&quot;

 This is an example of a fantastically unreasonable assertion to the beginnings of Christianity. You are forgetting alot of crucial elements.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#157 HY,</p>
<p> &#8220;Denying what facts? What “facts” are out there that show Jesus wasn’t a fable? I think you are backed in a corner now and that is the only response you have.&#8221;</p>
<p> Too much to list on a blog. Here is a link to a scholarly and reasonable look at the evidence.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reasonablefaith.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&#038;id=5207" rel="nofollow">http://www.reasonablefaith.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&#038;id=5207</a></p>
<p> &#8220;And you still haven’t answered why God created light and plants before the sun. Dodging? Or are you trying to say it doesn’t say that even though it does?&#8221;</p>
<p> I assure you HY, im not dodging the question. I just would like to know how you have studied the Bible that you come to your &#8220;fable&#8221; conclusion, thats all. You tell me how it is since you know all about the Scriptures.</p>
<p>&#8220;You do agree that there are many, many fables, myths, tall tales, however you want to call them, out there. How can you honestly think that the bible isn’t just another one of those?&#8221;</p>
<p> I agree there are alot of fables out there. The Bible is not one of them. It is a fantastically unreasonable idea to assert that.</p>
<p>&#8220;Christianity could have been created by man for many reasons. It was 2000 years ago, so who knows the exact reason. But history has proven that everything you think you know isn’t accurate. For example, Christopher Columbus discovering America. Not true. There are many other examples in history that are inaccurate, and that is just the last couple hundred years. Now just imagine a few thousand years ago. The time of kings and queens being rich ruling over the poor. Here is one example of how the bible could have been created: The poor were killing and stealing from the rich people in control. Something had to be done so one king sent someone to find someone from another land to bring them back and pay them to preach about made up stories to try to get the poor to stop doing bad things. This preacher told made up stories and maybe even threw in some real people and places to mix in with it. Those stories got written down by either those who believed this preacher or maybe even the preacher wrote them down himself either on his own or the king told him to. This worked and eventually other kingdoms/towns got wind of this and did something similar. And that is how the “prophets” formed. All the writings eventually got put together into one by an editor years later. And bam, you have the start of a religion. This is just one of many scenarios that could have taken place back then.&#8221;</p>
<p> This is an example of a fantastically unreasonable assertion to the beginnings of Christianity. You are forgetting alot of crucial elements.</p>
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		<title>By: Severin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Severin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry,
I thought it was a public blog

And, education is the answer!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry,<br />
I thought it was a public blog</p>
<p>And, education is the answer!</p>
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		<title>By: Rostam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rostam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Severin please don&#039;t answer for others.  The claim has been made.  

No God, 
Delusional,
Read Dawkins, 
Education is the answer

All claims by atheist and by this site.  Isn&#039;t this site here to promote No God?  I simply have asked for this information.  If you cannot help no need to chime in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Severin please don&#8217;t answer for others.  The claim has been made.  </p>
<p>No God,<br />
Delusional,<br />
Read Dawkins,<br />
Education is the answer</p>
<p>All claims by atheist and by this site.  Isn&#8217;t this site here to promote No God?  I simply have asked for this information.  If you cannot help no need to chime in.</p>
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		<title>By: Severin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Severin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[162 Rostam
What do you expect?
If you say you have a pink cat with 6 legs, singing a hymn every morning at 5am, using voice of Maria Calas, to just trust you?
If you say you have a god who created universe (by &quot;pop&quot; method), you also expect normal people to just trust you?

Atheist (most of them) do NOT claim such things do not exist.
They just do not believe, as you, probably, don&#039;t believe in Santa.
If someone insisted Santa existed, you would ask for proves.

I am willing to listen! More than that: I am willing to instantly accept god at the very moment I see reliable proofs.

I am waiting!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>162 Rostam<br />
What do you expect?<br />
If you say you have a pink cat with 6 legs, singing a hymn every morning at 5am, using voice of Maria Calas, to just trust you?<br />
If you say you have a god who created universe (by &#8220;pop&#8221; method), you also expect normal people to just trust you?</p>
<p>Atheist (most of them) do NOT claim such things do not exist.<br />
They just do not believe, as you, probably, don&#8217;t believe in Santa.<br />
If someone insisted Santa existed, you would ask for proves.</p>
<p>I am willing to listen! More than that: I am willing to instantly accept god at the very moment I see reliable proofs.</p>
<p>I am waiting!</p>
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