Do you have any clue what you are attempting to share? How could the posed question be so difficult?

By providing links that support intelligence developing life you are not providing common ground, you are accepting the position of which you claim is “delusional”.

I seek a common ground from which we can branch out and have an adult discussion. I did not say I believed in everything that Biologos states, do you?. But at least it brings us to a mutual understanding.
Which is what I was seeking. Until you continued to shift the goal posts, get off topic, and generally waffle and obfuscate.

Back to the starting point: Holy Shit this is gonna be an exercise in pain with no hope for gain: Since you appear to be a Biologos zealot (evolutionist) we can now both apparently agree that life 10 million years ago was largely without rules, and completely without laws and morals. CORRECT?

How deep are you willing to dig your hole? You reference biologos…..try reading up on Francis Collin’s biologos.

You have not answered the question and to add to my argument you provide sources who along with me realize that the “alarm” along with the rest of creation didn’t come about without intelligence.

I have proven my point with your help. Thank Qless.

Try and focus. We were trying to see how morality evolved.

(see #19, your post from above)
“But I digress, I would early love to hear how the alarm evolved with right and wrong programming and no aid of intelligence.”

Talk about digressing. You have HUYA syndrome, or is it just your ADD kicking in?

Well I thought you understood. You obviously do not since you provide links that support my POV. LOL, you even went to biologos! So have you renounced atheism?

Only 300 years ago no one could provide a process which would explain WHY apple falls from a tree to the ground and does not just fly away to space.

Does it mean the gravity did not exist 300 years ago?
No, it only means it was unexplained (obviously NOT unexplicable!)

I offered you simple explanation about how was it possible to get, then to transfer to further generations, sense of FEAR (or “fear” for very primitive organisms): nothing but chemistry!

It COULD happen by chance! Some organic molecules “run away” from other ones even in non-living chemistry, depending on their polarity, electrical charge, nature and position of certain active groups, …

If there is a complex structure behind such “sensors” able to “remember” such an event, (chemically “record” it, by changing some small element of the complex molecule), both “sense of fear” and reaction to “fear” are registred and ready to be transfered to next generation.

And, of course, complex molecules are possible to get by chance in 3.5 billion years.
Today we get extremely complex medicals, with biiiiig molecules, by synthesizing them!

“If Ape men scavenged the garden of eden maybe you could just share with us the steps leading to their alarm system coming to fruition without the aid of intelligence guiding the process?”

I tried, I failed. No eden ever existed to the best of my knowledge. Have you any proof? Want real evidence -> Look into early human ancestors and study mDNA. The fossil record has numerous creatures with varying degrees of ape/human characteristics. All preceding the rise of Homo sapiens.

Maybe start by reasearching what some of your fellow christians are saying about evolution. Try a catholic view with: http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/
Then go for a baptist view with: http://www.biologos.org/

All the best in your journey. I don’t know why I try, it’s like communicating with a couple of bricks.

I am encouraged you were able to grasp the scope of the question. Honestly, it did seem straight forward. You could not provide a process that would allow this alarm system to form from lifeless matter to the complex instruction code we see today void of intelligence.

You could not even provide an example today where we see such a phenomenon void of intelligence. Yet you believe it is possible. OK