Lol. You can say whatever you want about the bible and god, these are your god givin rights.

I prefer to say ‘human rights’. Because human rights are static, they never change.

God-given rights, as we all know from reading the bible, can change on any given day with the snap of a finger or the nailing of a poor innocent schmuck to a cross. One day you’re going along your merry way giving alms to the poor and hating your family the way Jesus commanded, and the next day God wakes up on the wrong side of the bed and says it’s OK to kill babies again by smashing them in the side of the head with a rock till there’s blood and brains everywhere, like before. God likes to change his mind a lot about what “rights” are, but I don’t.

Every year you read this interesting book it will say new things to you personally. If you think its all bullshit that is your choice. Free will is his gift unto you. And if you chose to us it to call him out that’s your choice. Just because a book rewriten buy kings men say that you can pray for anything and it will happen, and you decidedly made this your proffered doesn’t make any retarded coment you make about god true. Hope you have a great day.

Do you have the secret Bible that wasn’t rewritten by men, that has the real word of God in it? If so, why aren’t you sharing it with the world instead of letting them be misled with this fake altered Bible they’re all reading?

If you’re just using the same Bible as everyone else, and it’s all screwed up by people, WHY DO YOU BELIEVE ANYTHING IT SAYS?

Because it is NOT in humans nature to kill, as it is not in nature of primates, horses, sheep…

Evolution provided mechanisms against killing of members of own species in human/animal nerv system, not equal for all species, but very similar in general.

Evolution is not perfect, so some people have lack of this “built in” natural morality and are able to kill without reason, or to get some profit. Such people are minority.

If I were to become an atheist I would start taking whatever I want, and kill any one in my way.

Yes, we know that there are some morally bereft people who would immediately become murderers if it weren’t for religion. That’s unfortunate, but I believe there are remedies (like therapy) that can help people like you with no grounded morality, other than religion.

Most of us just do the right thing because it’s right, not for fear of going to hell. (I think most Christians do the same, really — most of them are good people and only do the religion casually out of a sense of ritual and habit. There’s only a handful of them that would actually start raping and killing without religion, as you just admitted to.)

The world would easily slip into caos. Without good or evil, there is no right or wrong. May sound like fun to some, but there is always going to be a need for god.

Oh OK. That’s good that you think that, cause I’ve been asking the religious people on this site, and usually they say the opposite of what you’re saying — there is no real right and wrong, whatever God says at the time is good, and it changes over time with his moods. So I’m glad to hear that you believe there is absolute right and wrong. (I agree — I think stoning people, burning people and slavery are always wrong, no matter what century it is and what the prevailing customs are.)

So does that mean that God did bad things in the Bible? I am assuming that you agree with me that bashing people’s brains in with rocks is universally wrong, so you would have to agree that God was guilty of commanding people to take immoral acts. Right? Or do you believe that it was morally right for God to order babies to be smashed to pieces against rocks and to condone slavery? Do you believe it is morally wrong now, but it was right back then when God did it? Because if so then you are in the same weird place as the other religious people commenting on this site, but that would contradict your earlier claim that the Bible gives us an idea of universal right and wrong.

I’m not the typical Christian, I don’t believe in eternal damn nation, but I do believe if you truly believe in god and ask for help on your path he will be there, however, if you ask him to prove he doesn’t exist to you buy asking him to alter the nature of the whole world, and the natural selection for death for millions of cancer patients, then you are more vain then most. Why would you think a retarded prayer like that should be answered.

Because it says so in the retarded Bible. It says that whatever you ask for will happen, as long as you really want it and really have faith in Jesus. So I understand that if I pray the prayer, it won’t work (I don’t believe in Jesus). But, if we get all the Christians in the world together to pray for things, they should happen. So why don’t they?

#40 Xenon My dear bloviating bag of inert gas, you finally give some insight. By your statement regarding my previous post #35

“You left out so many other choice words. Dip shit, white trash and filth. Warms your heart and makes you want to embrace the atheism doesn’t it.”

you make clear you are looking for the soothing salve of a cosmic “bwankie” ( an attempt to portray a child’s pronunciation of blanket ) to curl up with during the dark and stormy night we know as life on earth. Why not just come clean and say that imagining a god out there makes a psychological crutch that allows you to go about the business of life? That would be a first step toward healing. Is there something like a twelve step program for theists? A new fellowship of man sort of thing.

I do NOT gree with this statement of Mr. Sam Harris, although I DO agree with his book “Letter to Christian Nation”.

Unlike your god, Mr Harris, by my knowledge, never really klled anyone. Which DOES NOT justify him for his words.

“Meantime, your atheist comrades continue to kill.”
They are not atheists, and certainly not my/our comrades.
They believe in their god, communist party, as strongly and as sincerely as you believe in yours, so they could be called YOUR comrades.
They continue deeds of YOUR god, just doing them in the name of another god, but what is the difference? Aren’t all gods the same?. What is the difference between any religion and communist regime?

Unlike you, I do NOT justify killing of children by ANYONE, be it christian god, communist party, …

I would NEVER pose a question some of you (you?) posed here: “Why is killing of children immoral?”

This question of yours puts the mark “=” between yourself and those baby killers: they TOO, like you, do not know why are killing of children immoral.

3D,

We know you don’t like God and the Bible. You don’t like God’s warnings and you don’t like God’s judgment. This thread is full of explanations on the very topic by ACG and others. I feel certain you understand the explanation. Maybe you need to take it up with God and argue with him. I’m just a man and you seem to think you are more. Go for it big guy. Watching the pot shake his fist at the potter is the OT in action.

Meantime, your atheist comrades continue to kill. Sam Harris even makes the statement some people need to be killed just for their ideas. Jump on a plane and take some action. You guys are just like the Muslims. I promise, if anyone in the name of Christ murders, I will be the first to denounce them.