I recently read Dawkins book, The God Delusion, and I challenge ALL, theists and non-theists alike, to read it. We are often challenged by Christians to read the bible, and yet it’s proven that most theists do NOT read any works written by atheists. If you do not have your faith challenged by Dawkins works, you are indeed destined to be a faith-head for life.

Reason and faith ARE mutually exclusive… or rather faith and facts are.

Faith is belief without or despite the evidence.

Faith is not a means of knowing anything objectively true. It is, however, a good way to manipulate others and a great way to fool yourself.

The truth, as any criminal court will tell you, is best discovered by following the evidence. When, it comes to the truth that is the same for everybody no matter what they believe (like the fact that the earth orbits the sun), then science trumps faith and feelings again and again. It works.

For eons humans thought the earth was flat because it FEELS flat. The facts lead us to conclude otherwise. No scripture writer seemed to have access to these facts, or any of the other great discoveries of science, even though they imagined themselves to be translating the words of some invisible omniscient being.

Color me unimpressed by believers and the assorted magical things they’ve been indoctrinated to believe in.

How do you have a constructive conversation with someone who believes they are “saved” for believing a lie? What Christian has ever even presented a valid argument for belief. And if it was valid, why does religiosity go down as education and I.Q. go up?

I guess you have no clue as to what a poor advertisement you are for theism. I don’t think anybody reading your words sees you as the role model you imagine yourself. Theists seem to think much more of themselves than anyone else thinks of them. And I guess each sect imagines that people of their particularly sect are the “bestest”.

We have proof that our ancestors existed 2000 years ago… we don’t have any evidence that any magical people ever lived. Despite eons of belief in all sorts of gods and other invisible beings, we have no evidence that AND such beings existed (and lots of evidence that people are readily fooled when it comes to such beliefs).

In fact, there is no evidence that consciousness of ANY sort can exist absent a material brain. IF there was such evidence, scientists would be refining and honing that information for their own benefit as well as humanity’s. So despite eons of beliefs in ghosts, souls, demons, gods, etc., there isn’t a scrap of evidence that such things CAN exist– much less that anyone could “KNOW” about such undetectable beings.

Believing in the supernatural is indistinguishable than believing in magic. It’s also indistinguishable from believing in a delusion. It might make you feel good, but that doesn’t make it true.

There is no more evidence for a god or demigod named Jesus than there is for a god name Thor. There is no more evidence for Jesus than there is for the magical gold plates of Mormonism that are said to have floated off into space.

Be suspicious of anyone who tells you you need to believe in a certain invisible being or a certain unbelievable story in order to be saved.

As for your doubt of my profession, frankly I do not care what you think, it will not change anything in my life. I am quiet happy that I am an atheist, thank you.

So calling someone an idiot, a three year old, and such isn’t calling anyone a name? Wow, what universe do you live in, oh right you live in the Christian universe where name calling, talking down to others who do not believe as you do, and the sense of EMPOWERMENT rules. Please do not talk to me as if I am five, and telling me to calm down and stop being silly is just plain STUPID! Please don’t respond to my posts, if they offend you, you do have that option, you do know that right?

Get a backbone and quite crying when you get called out. Offer some constructive arguments for the major questions about life and then maybe you will be taken seriously. Until then, as a group you are just a blip.

Marin, I doubt seriously you are a professor. I have never see a professor react to questions as you do. Be glad you are an atheist. Observer would eat you for lunch.

Nobody called you “NAMES” so calm down and stop being silly.

We CHANGE theories to fit facts. We investigate, we “dig”, we LEARN, to make theories better and better.

Religions do NOT change anything. They expect us to believe all the time the same BS which do not correspond to science/logic/reality.
Rligions except us to change reality to fit religious „teachings“.

CHANGE something in that shit, maybe someone will catch himself to „renewed“ Bible/christianity.

„If we ignore God’s obvious involvement in creation is that not the definition of ignorance?“
Obvious? You expect us to take the biblical genesis for granted? Is biblical manfacturing man from mud some „evidence“ that god was involved in „creation“?

Excellent point!

Not “somehow”, but DIRECTLY!

As you indirectly claimed here that, unlike ancient gods, christian god DOES exist, share with us HOW did you conclude it!?
If all ancient gods (AND all today’s gods, like Muslim…) were false, WHAT MAKES CHRISTIAN GOD REAL?

How is christianity “proven”?