Climate change is not the issue. The issue is if it is imparted by manmade activity. A-Realist is not really following the science for if he was, he would realize hundreds of climatologist are in great disagreement. Ideologue is perhaps the most precise descriptor. He follows the science as it is filtered through the DNC and Al Gore, producer of the “Incontinent Lie”.

But not let us forget FOIGate, ChinaGate, HimalayaGate, SternGate and the most flawed AlaskaGate. Many of the published findings are NOT peer-reviewed! There are many more but these are the ones that come to mind. It run is cavernous and by following the cash you can uncover the culprits.

Antarctica is actually growing, not shrinking. I guess the cycle there is cooling.

http://climate.nasa.gov/

http://www.exploratorium.edu/climate/

You were not alive back then were you? It is obvious. Our factories mere much filthier, our cars admitted 10 times more pollutants and we as Americans had practices which admitted many more pollutants. The Networks were constantly putting out sitcom episodes about cleaning up the environment. We have in a large way. But yet, the ice age was coming.

You are an ideologue. Even in the eye of climategate you believe the verdict is in even though climate scientist disagree. Not possible it is just a natural cycle? Drive your moped and drink the kool aid that the sky is falling.

Oh, and every generation believes their science is new and modern. We still get the daily weather report wrong on a regular basis.

The Cooling World

Newsweek, April 28, 1975

There are ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production – with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only 10 years from now. The regions destined to feel its impact are the great wheat-producing lands of Canada and the U.S.S.R. in the North, along with a number of marginally self-sufficient tropical areas – parts of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indochina and Indonesia – where the growing season is dependent upon the rains brought by the monsoon.

The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it. In England, farmers have seen their growing season decline by about two weeks since 1950, with a resultant overall loss in grain production estimated at up to 100,000 tons annually. During the same time, the average temperature around the equator has risen by a fraction of a degree – a fraction that in some areas can mean drought and desolation. Last April, in the most devastating outbreak of tornadoes ever recorded, 148 twisters killed more than 300 people and caused half a billion dollars’ worth of damage in 13 U.S. states.

To scientists, these seemingly disparate incidents represent the advance signs of fundamental changes in the world’s weather. The central fact is that after three quarters of a century of extraordinarily mild conditions, the earth’s climate seems to be cooling down. Meteorologists disagree about the cause and extent of the cooling trend, as well as over its specific impact on local weather conditions. But they are almost unanimous in the view that the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century. If the climatic change is as profound as some of the pessimists fear, the resulting famines could be catastrophic. “A major climatic change would force economic and social adjustments on a worldwide scale,” warns a recent report by the National Academy of Sciences, “because the global patterns of food production and population that have evolved are implicitly dependent on the climate of the present century.”

A survey completed last year by Dr. Murray Mitchell of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reveals a drop of half a degree in average ground temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere between 1945 and 1968. According to George Kukla of Columbia University, satellite photos indicated a sudden, large increase in Northern Hemisphere snow cover in the winter of 1971-72. And a study released last month by two NOAA scientists notes that the amount of sunshine reaching the ground in the continental U.S. diminished by 1.3% between 1964 and 1972.

To the layman, the relatively small changes in temperature and sunshine can be highly misleading. Reid Bryson of the University of Wisconsin points out that the Earth’s average temperature during the great Ice Ages was only about seven degrees lower than during its warmest eras – and that the present decline has taken the planet about a sixth of the way toward the Ice Age average. Others regard the cooling as a reversion to the “little ice age” conditions that brought bitter winters to much of Europe and northern America between 1600 and 1900 – years when the Thames used to freeze so solidly that Londoners roasted oxen on the ice and when iceboats sailed the Hudson River almost as far south as New York City.

Just what causes the onset of major and minor ice ages remains a mystery. “Our knowledge of the mechanisms of climatic change is at least as fragmentary as our data,” concedes the National Academy of Sciences report. “Not only are the basic scientific questions largely unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key questions.”

Meteorologists think that they can forecast the short-term results of the return to the norm of the last century. They begin by noting the slight drop in overall temperature that produces large numbers of pressure centers in the upper atmosphere. These break up the smooth flow of westerly winds over temperate areas. The stagnant air produced in this way causes an increase in extremes of local weather such as droughts, floods, extended dry spells, long freezes, delayed monsoons and even local temperature increases – all of which have a direct impact on food supplies.

“The world’s food-producing system,” warns Dr. James D. McQuigg of NOAA’s Center for Climatic and Environmental Assessment, “is much more sensitive to the weather variable than it was even five years ago.” Furthermore, the growth of world population and creation of new national boundaries make it impossible for starving peoples to migrate from their devastated fields, as they did during past famines.

Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects. They concede that some of the more spectacular solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting arctic rivers, might create problems far greater than those they solve. But the scientists see few signs that government leaders anywhere are even prepared to take the simple measures of stockpiling food or of introducing the variables of climatic uncertainty into economic projections of future food supplies. The longer the planners delay, the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality.

It is global climate change, not cycle change. And you are ignorant if you think just because it is hot or cold we are claiming it is man made. It is the “extremeties” I am talking about. And it is other things besides just hot or cold. For example, the massive amount of hurricanes occuring because of the warming up of the oceans too fast. The polar ice caps are melting at a rate way faster than ever and way faster than it should. Not every part of the world is going to be effected by global climate change, so that is why there is skeptics right now. You and others walk outside and say hey, we’ve had hot days before or it has snowed before. It is the extreme conditions I am talking about. And some of the conditions aren’t even as noticable as you would think, for example, the amount of radition from the sun. So things aren’t just black and white like you are claiming. Another example off the top of my head is when I was in Vegas at the end of February. It was raining there and the locals said they have never had that much rain in a 3 week period that they can ever recall.

How many cars do you think are running every second in the world with exhaust coming out of their tale pipes? That amount of constant polution can easily do damage to the earth’s natural state. And remember, cars have only been around for a short period of time in earth’s existance, with the last 50 years the numbers have greatly expanded. So it isn’t hard to imagine that with all the polution we have been doing to the earth in very recent history with little or none to that extreme ever before, that we could cause problems in the earth’s climate that isn’t normal.

Check out Newsweek from 1980. Just because Al is loud and the media covers him doesn’t make the scam less real.

Study the data since scientist have been keeping it. We have always been in a global cycle change.

You don’t think this is about money and control? ONG! Are you familiar with the Title V laws and are you familiar with what “Cap & Tax” proposes? Get your partisan head out of your butt and let the fraud permeate your sense of reality.

Yeah, that is why it is called Global Climate Change, which means extremeties in all conditions.

“This is about money and control.”

Wow, who is gaining control of something and who is making the money out of this? Besides, you ever hear of one of the main reasons for relgion? Control! And religious wars? Money and Control!

“Global warming is only a natural cycle.”

Yeah, something that takes 100′s to 1000′s of years to fluctuate, not a few decades!

“In 1980 they claimed we were headed for the next ice age. In the 1920s they claimed global warming!”

Really? Where’s the claim on that? Must not have been talked about too much then and therefore not a big phenomenon at that time if your claim is true.

Don’t let the fearmongers fool you. This is about money and control. In my part of the nation it was the coldest winter in 25 years.

Um, isn’t temperatures being at record highs part of the definition of global warming? And besides, it isn’t known as global warming anymore, it is Global Climate Change. And the melting of the polar ice caps at an enormous rate isn’t proof? Have you seen the difference in satelite pictures over the last decade or so? It should take 100′s of years to accomplish that. I think when Florida is half full of water in 20 years that will be proof enough. And the scientists that were thought to have lied about data in emails, that has proven to be exagerated because really they were just sloppy in some of the data, not dishonest.