Please see my last comment (begins with “77 Merlin “I would NEVER ever…”).

Yes, they don’t want to see, and sometimes, unwillingly (doing Freudian slips) they admit it!

There is no god, but there is (sometimes) justice in this world!

Any rational and intelligent person would immediately recognize a typo.

They want us to go to their church, they want us to give them at least 10% of our paycheck, they want us to volunteer out time and effort for the church and yet they REFUSE to acknowledge Mark 16:17-18.

Because, they should be able to: Drive out Demons (cure mental and other illnesses like epilepsy), speak in tongues, pick up snakes (wtf?), place hands on sick people and they shall get well and finally, drink deadly poison and shall be unharmed.

Because the USA is supposedly a ‘Christian’ nation, according to this passage we should need no medical or mental professions because Christians should be happy to be a witness and spread the name of Jesus, and what better way than healing amputees? Yet they refuse to. I guess they should prove whether they are true christians or not by drinking poison. By doing so they can PROVE they are a christian and that there is a Jesus and God.

Something so simple… yet they refuse. It’s because they know, deep down, the truth… but their conscious mind refuses to acknowledge it.

Just look at the “Index Librorum Prohibitorum” (Index of Forbidden Books), the list of Chatolic Church, promulgated in 1559. and extended by ADDING works and uathors through centuries, untill 1996. (!!!)
Just a few years ago!

How to trust ANYTHING an organisaton (not very different from fascistic one) which prohibits Descartes, La Fontain, Pascal, Voltaire, Hugo, Flaubert, Dumas (both!) Diderot, Rablais, Zola, A. France, A. Gide, J.P. Sartre, Keppler, D. Defoe (?!), G. Bruno, G. Galilei, Copernicus, G. Greene, G. Sand, M. de Unamuno, Stendal, Flaubert, Shoppenhauer, Nietzche, H. Heine, even tha map-makers such as S. Muenster and J. Ziegler, etc, etc, etc…
And, of course, they NEVER put on their list Hitler’s “Mein Kampf”!

When they weren’t able to burn people any more, they tried to suppress their thoughts by prohibiting their books, probably being very sorry to be unable to burn the authors.

I did not just claim (as typical for you believers).
I put on the table a logical riddle:

Why matter? Beacuse god created it.
Why god? No answer!

If your answer, as expected, might be: „God is unquestionable, he is here without any reason, he has no cause, he is both in one: the cause and the consequence, O.K., fine!
But WHY, the hell, should we search for a supernatural being to apply such definitions to it?
Why not apply it to matter/energy/time/space, which we have under our noses?

If you apply it to matter/energy, it BY NO MEANS make them divine or supernatural!
Why?
Beacuse matter/energy is following some rules (natural laws)!
God/gods (ha, which one is the right one?) does/do not follow any!
What we were told „from“ gods (religious books), and about gods (from priests), are illogical nonenses that are so stupid, illogical and incosistant, that even „bullshit“ is not the right word to describe them. „Nothing“ could be the right one!

It is always nice to debate with someone whose Englis is poor; you can always say you did not understand him well, and get out of debate excused of giving arguments.
I am sure my English grammar and syntax (= structure of sentences) are poor too, but understndable enough for such a debate. We are not writing literature/poetry here.
Now, I DID admit that “why” is a very challenging intelectual question.
My point was that in NO WAY religions are right institutions to search for and to expose answers to it.
They had 1000 of years to prove themselves, but did not, so: good bye!
The same way I let scientists to search for answers to the question “how”, and choose to trust them or not, based on evidences available and on validity (functioning in practice) of their theories, I would let educated and ingenious people (Bertrand Russel, etc, maybe Mr. Rasher too, when I learn something about him, and from him) to search for answers to “why” for me.
Then, when I see their answers, I will decide whether to trust them or not.

THAT was the point: FREEDOM OF THINKING, which all the religions suppressed ALL THE TIME by all available means, including the cruelest ones imaginable.

I still think that the question “why” is unanswerable, and that nature simply is not based on such questions. It is, of course, not a “forbiden” question, but is senseless: every “why” ineviatbly includes the next one, and you can stop ONLY with a “supreme being”, which is unexplicable “per se”. Such a creature should be, by default, much more complicated than universe itself, then: who/what created it? How was it created? How did it started to exist?
So we come back to EXACTLY the same questions we apply to matter/energy – why then to apply them to a divinity?
Let philosophers (not religions!) search for answers, and let enjoy in evaluating of their arguments, but let us NOT believe anything without arguments/evidences.

Doubt is the key for going on, not dogmas!
That is why religions (plural!) are DANGEROUS!

P.S. I never claimed there were no atheists at all in history of human race, but that “No atheists ever created moral rules.”
If they did (your example),tell me, who ever paid attention to their “moral rules”, even only 100- 200 years ago. Do you deny that religions (plural!) had practically the ONLY influence to moral rules untill some 50-60 years ago (or 150, or 200, but what is this compared to 7-8000 years of human history?). How did Nietzsche influence the history? Stopped the WWI or WWII?
And yes, I did read him, thanks.

P.S. There are many more athiests througout history than you think, and as for athiests creating moral rules, you should read Nietzsche. He had quite a bit to say on the subject. Be careful when you paint in broad strokes.