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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=1008&#038;cpage=1#comment-19408</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 19:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Croco duck, i respect your point of view and im not judging or tring to convert you just like a good debate. Now you said as a child you were christian thats because we dont sin as children only taught or see it quote( you can not enter the kingdom of heaven but only if your heart is pure as a childs) That being said sin began to set in and the sin i mean is you know temptation .Now you went to church and the saying goes your believing is as strong as your faith, and if your faith is weak so shall your mind. If the father isnt in the heart how can he be in the mind. im betting you have alot of head knowledge of christ but it stops there?look at this logically,you seem to be a very smart person but with everything you know, if you were givin a test on math or history you would apply on paper what you know did you do the same with christ?Nothing is a givin and patience is the key.God himself is even one who says i will never leave you nor forsaken you now thats love.And when you walk away he will follow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Croco duck, i respect your point of view and im not judging or tring to convert you just like a good debate. Now you said as a child you were christian thats because we dont sin as children only taught or see it quote( you can not enter the kingdom of heaven but only if your heart is pure as a childs) That being said sin began to set in and the sin i mean is you know temptation .Now you went to church and the saying goes your believing is as strong as your faith, and if your faith is weak so shall your mind. If the father isnt in the heart how can he be in the mind. im betting you have alot of head knowledge of christ but it stops there?look at this logically,you seem to be a very smart person but with everything you know, if you were givin a test on math or history you would apply on paper what you know did you do the same with christ?Nothing is a givin and patience is the key.God himself is even one who says i will never leave you nor forsaken you now thats love.And when you walk away he will follow.</p>
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		<title>By: Crocoduck</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=1008&#038;cpage=1#comment-19407</link>
		<dc:creator>Crocoduck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Chris,

To answer your question, I have indeed studied the other side. I was raised as a Christian and attended  church and went to a Christian school. I even sang in the choir as a kid. I prayed with sincerity.

I&#039;ve read the bible, and it&#039;s got some interesting stories, some very strange stories, some good teachings and some very bad ones. It seems to me very human originated and flawed in a very human way. I could not find the divine in there. Someone once pointed out to me that it&#039;s completely devoid of humour. I find that strange.

I&#039;ve been an atheist (technically an atheist agnostic) for the last few years. I went from believing as a child, to wishing I believed as a youth, to being agnostic and then finally coming to terms with what I know to be true now - there is no evidence for God and there is a great deal of evidence that we&#039;re the product of unguided evolution through natural selection. It seems every new scientific discovery pushes back further the boundary of what believers can plausibly claim to be God&#039;s domain.

I don&#039;t dismiss the Christian way of life entirely as it&#039;s hard to separate aspects of Christianity with what I hold dear in my culture and society, but the beliefs of Christians I cannot share. Sometimes in moments of despair I&#039;ve wished I had that belief but in my deepest being I cannot force myself to believe in something I know to be untrue or unfounded. 

I try to approach all aspects of my life with the same integrity - with what is evident and just and moral.

If after I die there is a God and he condemns me to hell for not believing in Him rather than judging my actions in life as a moral person, then I&#039;d judge him right back, especially an almighty who hasn&#039;t yet left one shred of evidence to persuade me of His existence.

As to the facts you presented, I can&#039;t agree. If you have some evidence I can read about then I&#039;d like to see it. A cursory search on the net for a soul being weighed casts doubt on the validity of the research conducted, and it occurs to me that even if it were proven true that a body does weigh less on death it does not follow that God, Jesus and the bible are all true. 

We&#039;ve digressed from the original post, but I thought I&#039;d reply again as I appreciate the civility of your posts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris,</p>
<p>To answer your question, I have indeed studied the other side. I was raised as a Christian and attended  church and went to a Christian school. I even sang in the choir as a kid. I prayed with sincerity.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read the bible, and it&#8217;s got some interesting stories, some very strange stories, some good teachings and some very bad ones. It seems to me very human originated and flawed in a very human way. I could not find the divine in there. Someone once pointed out to me that it&#8217;s completely devoid of humour. I find that strange.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been an atheist (technically an atheist agnostic) for the last few years. I went from believing as a child, to wishing I believed as a youth, to being agnostic and then finally coming to terms with what I know to be true now &#8211; there is no evidence for God and there is a great deal of evidence that we&#8217;re the product of unguided evolution through natural selection. It seems every new scientific discovery pushes back further the boundary of what believers can plausibly claim to be God&#8217;s domain.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t dismiss the Christian way of life entirely as it&#8217;s hard to separate aspects of Christianity with what I hold dear in my culture and society, but the beliefs of Christians I cannot share. Sometimes in moments of despair I&#8217;ve wished I had that belief but in my deepest being I cannot force myself to believe in something I know to be untrue or unfounded. </p>
<p>I try to approach all aspects of my life with the same integrity &#8211; with what is evident and just and moral.</p>
<p>If after I die there is a God and he condemns me to hell for not believing in Him rather than judging my actions in life as a moral person, then I&#8217;d judge him right back, especially an almighty who hasn&#8217;t yet left one shred of evidence to persuade me of His existence.</p>
<p>As to the facts you presented, I can&#8217;t agree. If you have some evidence I can read about then I&#8217;d like to see it. A cursory search on the net for a soul being weighed casts doubt on the validity of the research conducted, and it occurs to me that even if it were proven true that a body does weigh less on death it does not follow that God, Jesus and the bible are all true. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve digressed from the original post, but I thought I&#8217;d reply again as I appreciate the civility of your posts.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=1008&#038;cpage=1#comment-19404</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Continued,.... Somewhere? This is a fact not a made up story or in the bible and as a non-believer you like facts theres one to loopk up. and i know they can be wrong but it still brings to mind for anybody (wow), now with that being said my opinon as a christian we have a soul it goes to heaven or hell but hell to me is for only one person and that is a person who face to face with God still rejects him with proof before your very eyes then hell is what you get. Thats why God became Jesus to show that even a higher being can suffer like us as sinners to show his love for us. Thus the new testament.Now keep in mind God is perfect so the n.t. Isnt to fix what was a mistake but yet to change with the times. We still have the ten commandments as well as God already knowing that if we should be forgivin then so shall he. So Jesus is our way to heaven and our (save) (your).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continued,&#8230;. Somewhere? This is a fact not a made up story or in the bible and as a non-believer you like facts theres one to loopk up. and i know they can be wrong but it still brings to mind for anybody (wow), now with that being said my opinon as a christian we have a soul it goes to heaven or hell but hell to me is for only one person and that is a person who face to face with God still rejects him with proof before your very eyes then hell is what you get. Thats why God became Jesus to show that even a higher being can suffer like us as sinners to show his love for us. Thus the new testament.Now keep in mind God is perfect so the n.t. Isnt to fix what was a mistake but yet to change with the times. We still have the ten commandments as well as God already knowing that if we should be forgivin then so shall he. So Jesus is our way to heaven and our (save) (your).</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=1008&#038;cpage=1#comment-19402</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Croco duck.. I like the way you think, The thing that is hard to grasp as a non-believer is why should i take the word of a book that has no showings of facts in todays times i get that. Lol no im not going to bring up the rapture. But i do have one question for you to answer? Have you looked (studied) on my side of the fence of life? If so then, its very simple in this way, I do turn to faith for everything that is needed and of course the answers i get half of the times are not what i think i need but they always help me in the ways i didnt see.As for death explain this, There was a study done to people about to die(death bed)and when they died thier body weight dropped by .005 ,might be wrong about weight but, it dropped after calculations of air in lungs ect... Does this mean we have a (soul) when they study this scientist could not explain it but that something inside us other than our body has weight. Now that says to christian duh its our soul and if you have a soul then thats why we have to go.......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Croco duck.. I like the way you think, The thing that is hard to grasp as a non-believer is why should i take the word of a book that has no showings of facts in todays times i get that. Lol no im not going to bring up the rapture. But i do have one question for you to answer? Have you looked (studied) on my side of the fence of life? If so then, its very simple in this way, I do turn to faith for everything that is needed and of course the answers i get half of the times are not what i think i need but they always help me in the ways i didnt see.As for death explain this, There was a study done to people about to die(death bed)and when they died thier body weight dropped by .005 ,might be wrong about weight but, it dropped after calculations of air in lungs ect&#8230; Does this mean we have a (soul) when they study this scientist could not explain it but that something inside us other than our body has weight. Now that says to christian duh its our soul and if you have a soul then thats why we have to go&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Crocoduck</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=1008&#038;cpage=1#comment-19395</link>
		<dc:creator>Crocoduck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[chris, I don&#039;t think you should quote passages from the bible to make your point, as if the bible has an authority that can&#039;t be dismissed. It&#039;s a weak-sauce appeal to authority and it doesn&#039;t even appear to address Heww&#039;s comment, let alone show him his error.

I don&#039;t know what you mean about the anti-christ, but you&#039;re making me nervous. Should I brace myself for a rant about the rapture?

As to your earlier comment, it seems as if you&#039;re saying that the prospect of no afterlife would make life unbearable. So do you turn to faith as a crutch against that which we&#039;re all aware of - our inevitable deaths?

If you were to be like me not a believer, and have yet to discover any conciliation about death, it still does not make suicide an attractive option. I don&#039;t believe in any afterlife, not even hell, so why would we bring that about all the sooner?

Whatever the way to deal with the thought of our deaths is, I&#039;m sure part of it involves cherishing life and the lives of those around you. From my experience so far, the nearest comfort I can give myself about death is the thought that I won&#039;t know I&#039;m dead when I&#039;m dead, because I&#039;ll be dead, see?

Not as warming as clouds and harps and such, but certainly not cause for jumping under a train.

Now the thought of dieing and knowing I&#039;m about to die...that moment (if I&#039;m unfortunate enough to have to check out that way) - THAT&#039;S what gives me the cold sweats in the wee small hours.

Possibly this is where the suicide appeal comes in?  You can opt for an instant or peaceful death, on your own terms. It makes an argument for euthanasia for example.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chris, I don&#8217;t think you should quote passages from the bible to make your point, as if the bible has an authority that can&#8217;t be dismissed. It&#8217;s a weak-sauce appeal to authority and it doesn&#8217;t even appear to address Heww&#8217;s comment, let alone show him his error.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what you mean about the anti-christ, but you&#8217;re making me nervous. Should I brace myself for a rant about the rapture?</p>
<p>As to your earlier comment, it seems as if you&#8217;re saying that the prospect of no afterlife would make life unbearable. So do you turn to faith as a crutch against that which we&#8217;re all aware of &#8211; our inevitable deaths?</p>
<p>If you were to be like me not a believer, and have yet to discover any conciliation about death, it still does not make suicide an attractive option. I don&#8217;t believe in any afterlife, not even hell, so why would we bring that about all the sooner?</p>
<p>Whatever the way to deal with the thought of our deaths is, I&#8217;m sure part of it involves cherishing life and the lives of those around you. From my experience so far, the nearest comfort I can give myself about death is the thought that I won&#8217;t know I&#8217;m dead when I&#8217;m dead, because I&#8217;ll be dead, see?</p>
<p>Not as warming as clouds and harps and such, but certainly not cause for jumping under a train.</p>
<p>Now the thought of dieing and knowing I&#8217;m about to die&#8230;that moment (if I&#8217;m unfortunate enough to have to check out that way) &#8211; THAT&#8217;S what gives me the cold sweats in the wee small hours.</p>
<p>Possibly this is where the suicide appeal comes in?  You can opt for an instant or peaceful death, on your own terms. It makes an argument for euthanasia for example.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=1008&#038;cpage=1#comment-19388</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 14:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heww.... You have it wrong my friend, Look in the holly bible no other one....Revelations 22:18-21 , it says nobody should add or take from these words written in this book, Heres the strange thing in this book though, its about (prophecies). We as people believe in magic,voodo,fortune tellers, and basically anything that people tells us, which is funny in 2 ways 1 we are Gods sheep, and the anti-christ well fool so many into his peaceful and so called right ways. As a non-believers he well be worshiped like a God. Then will reveal the ugly truth about deception.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heww&#8230;. You have it wrong my friend, Look in the holly bible no other one&#8230;.Revelations 22:18-21 , it says nobody should add or take from these words written in this book, Heres the strange thing in this book though, its about (prophecies). We as people believe in magic,voodo,fortune tellers, and basically anything that people tells us, which is funny in 2 ways 1 we are Gods sheep, and the anti-christ well fool so many into his peaceful and so called right ways. As a non-believers he well be worshiped like a God. Then will reveal the ugly truth about deception.</p>
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		<title>By: heww</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=1008&#038;cpage=1#comment-19382</link>
		<dc:creator>heww</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the bible was written by men, and re-written bits taken out and bits added etc.. different languages.. translators with different agendas etc.. even if god is real, the bible cannot express gods desires]]></description>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=1008&#038;cpage=1#comment-19334</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me answer this very simple question. If a christian kills his/her self then hell awaits them, you are not suppose to take your life with your own hands.God speaks of that very clearly in the bible, and yes the christians treasure there lives and time here on earth as much as a non believer, but the question is, what makes life worth living if you just up and vanish like a fart in the wind after you die. To have family and friends for a short while then thats it. What crap is that, if that were true then why not live as if you have one life to live, wait thats a soap opra. Ha ha anyways if as a christian i really belived my life was to live and die thats it ,well then whats the point of living on hell i mean earth when everything you do is for what nothing, but as a believing christian i try to live by Gods rules which if read right is the golden rule as well, then what i have accomplishment on earth will be taken with me to heaven ( not objects).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me answer this very simple question. If a christian kills his/her self then hell awaits them, you are not suppose to take your life with your own hands.God speaks of that very clearly in the bible, and yes the christians treasure there lives and time here on earth as much as a non believer, but the question is, what makes life worth living if you just up and vanish like a fart in the wind after you die. To have family and friends for a short while then thats it. What crap is that, if that were true then why not live as if you have one life to live, wait thats a soap opra. Ha ha anyways if as a christian i really belived my life was to live and die thats it ,well then whats the point of living on hell i mean earth when everything you do is for what nothing, but as a believing christian i try to live by Gods rules which if read right is the golden rule as well, then what i have accomplishment on earth will be taken with me to heaven ( not objects).</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=1008&#038;cpage=1#comment-19280</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i tried. i really did. now shush; go felate your sky wizard before he becomes annoyed and sends you to an eternal flaming damnation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i tried. i really did. now shush; go felate your sky wizard before he becomes annoyed and sends you to an eternal flaming damnation.</p>
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		<title>By: Xenon</title>
		<link>http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/blog/?p=1008&#038;cpage=1#comment-19273</link>
		<dc:creator>Xenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uh um nick, that was sarcasm (sar-cas-um).  It means......ah never mind ask your teacher.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh um nick, that was sarcasm (sar-cas-um).  It means&#8230;&#8230;ah never mind ask your teacher.</p>
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